The ideal American Political Party (Chuz Life's version)

[progressive hunter]

I see you did. So, my next question is about the Constitution itself. Especially curious with regards to the OP and the ideal base of my (Gadsen) Party effort.

all governments by definition are authoritarian in nature,,

the party system needs to end at the fed gov level,,

they are elected to represent the people of their state not a political party,,

 

[Chuz Life]

all governments by definition are authoritarian in nature,,

the party system needs to end at the fed gov level,,

they are elected to represent the people of their state not a political party,,

Do you have a plan to make that happen and to forbid partys from one State from banding together with the "parties" of other State(s)?

 

[progressive hunter]

Do you have a plan to make that happen and to forbid partys from one State from banding together with the "parties" of other State(s)?

cant stop people from talking but we can stop using any reference to partys on all government documents including ballots along with day to day business,,

as I have said several times,,

they are there to represent the people of their state not a political party,,

 

[Chuz Life]

cant stop people from talking but we can stop using any reference to partys on all government documents including ballots along with day to day business,,

as I have said several times,,

they are there to represent the people of their state not a political party,,

I'm curious about what it is you think that would accomplish. What difference could it possibly make?

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm curious about what it is you think that would accomplish. What difference could it possibly make?

the first and biggest thing it will do is make the voter know who they vote for instead of party line voting,,

after that since they cant side up in congress they would have to talk to each other, along with forcing state reps to work together for their state,,

compared to what we have now I see nothing but positives,,

 

[Chuz Life]

the first and biggest thing it will do is make the voter know who they vote for instead of party line voting,,

after that since they cant side up in congress they would have to talk to each other, along with forcing state reps to work together for their state,,

compared to what we have now I see nothing but positives,,

This completely discounts the loyalty that candidates have to their respective political parties.

 

[progressive hunter]

This completely discounts the loyalty that candidates have to their respective political parties.

ok,,

 

[candycorn]

you moved from two party system "working well enough" to "no country is better",,

The two party system is working well enough and no country is better. These are movements,they are facts.

thats called moving the goal post

No that is called you being frustrated little man.

I simply asked you to name a nation that has had a better run since its founding--1787 in our case. You can’t name one so we see the sad display below where you start your name calling.

but as youve shown your TDS has eaten your brain so I dont expect much more from you,,

What is really pathetic about your tantrum is this. You seem really concerned about our division and our deficit. Trump--whose dick you can’t stop sucking--is responsible for over 20% of the debt having singed off on $8T in new debt between 2017 and 2021. And he’s likely the most combative president we’ve had since Jackson.

At least I had a brain that was eaten...you have nothing but space between your ears.

 

[progressive hunter]

The two party system is working well enough and no country is better. These are movements,they are facts.

No that is called you being frustrated little man.

I simply asked you to name a nation that has had a better run since its founding--1787 in our case. You can’t name one so we see the sad display below where you start your name calling.


What is really pathetic about your tantrum is this. You seem really concerned about our division and our deficit. Trump--whose dick you can’t stop sucking--is responsible for over 20% of the debt having singed off on $8T in new debt between 2017 and 2021. And he’s likely the most combative president we’ve had since Jackson.

At least I had a brain that was eaten...you have nothing but space between your ears.

as we discussed "well enough" is a matter of opinion,, and opinions vary

 

[candycorn]

as we discussed "well enough" is a matter of opinion,, and opinions vary

I gave you criteria…you gave me “whaaaaaa”

 

[progressive hunter]

I gave you criteria…you gave me “whaaaaaa”

you gave me your opinion and I said .. whaaaaa

 

[Chuz Life]

If I may, reference to my idea of a 3rd Party, what does everyone think of my idea of "The Gadsen Party?" A party based on a message from "we the people" that says, "don't ******* tread on me" and reminds the government that it only has power that comes from the "consent of the governed" and (as we saw in the Declaration of Independence) that consent CAN be revoked, if it is abused?

There must be some better artists on here than I!

 

[progressive hunter]

If I may, reference to my idea of a 3rd Party, what does everyone think of my idea of "The Gadsen Party?" A party based on a message from "we the people" that says, "don't ******* tread on me" and reminds the government that it only has power that comes from the "consent of the governed" and (as we saw in the Declaration of Independence) that consent CAN be revoked, if it is abused?

View attachment 1156570 There must be some better artists on here than I!

its a stupid idea,,

 

[Chuz Life]

its a stupid idea,,

Even as just a kind of thought exercise? Wow.

Don't hold back now.

 

[progressive hunter]

Even as just a kind of thought exercise? Wow.

Don't hold back now.

that exercise has been practiced for 250 yrs and all we have to show for it is 38 trillion in debt, children with less future than we did and a divided country,,

how about we end the party system at the fed level and get back to real representation??

 

[Chuz Life]

that exercise has been practiced for 250 yrs and all we have to show for it is 38 trillion in debt, children with less future than we did and a divided country,,

how about we end the party system at the fed level and get back to real representation??

I see. You mad cause I didn't drop my idea in favor of yours. As if either one is likely to ever happen

 

[progressive hunter]

I see. You mad cause I didn't drop my idea in favor of yours. As if either one is likely to ever happen

more like youre mad your idea is so stupid and being shown why that is,,

 

[Chuz Life]

more like youre mad your idea is so stupid and being shown why that is,,

LOL!

That's it. You got me 100%!

I (just like everyone else) really need your validation.

 

[cnm]

The US has formed the greatest civilization to ever inhabit the planet. Full stop.

That is why you can't have nice things. The US believes its own propaganda.

 

[cnm]

Really, the political dysfunction of the US is guaranteed by the electoral law stipulated by the Constitution, which has allowed partisan interests to gatekeep the system.