The "I Stand With Israel" thread

[teddyearp]

They're not allowed to have any weapons to defend themselves.

But they do. Rockets and mortars and guns and suicide bombers anyone?

They're not allowed to have a democratically elected government.

So how does Hamas have control? I thought they were elected. How were the rest of the Palestinian Parliament elected? Either way this is not Israel's fault. Israel does not stop the Palestinians to have elections.

They're not allowed to have freedom.

Hmmm, maybe stop the rocket fire and that would change.

They're not even allowed to grieve for their lost loved ones.

Then were do the pictures of these mass funeral processions come from?

Another Epic Fail.

 

[MikeK]

[...] because one side are terrorists.

"Terrorists."

Do you mean like the Zionist founders of Israel, the Irgun were? You know, the ones who used terrorist tactics against the British -- such as the King David hotel bombing?

Is that what you mean?

Surely you can dig up something from within the last 50 years?

You mean events like the so-called Holocaust are no longer relevant?

 

[teddyearp]

Here is a response to Israel's happy horseshit about rockets.

It is only a few minutes starting @ 1:42 :40

Ali Abunimah in ABQ. - YouTube

Really Tinmore? That is the best you can do? Dig up (again) this video of a guy speaking to a bunch of college students in Albuquerque. We have seen this video and already debunked it before. The speaker goes on and on about 'documented proof' of this or that without providing said documentation! Not only that, when you get to your favorite part @ 1:42:40 (and just before and well beyond) this guy still fails to provide anything substantive. He states that even he doesn't know after rebuking the student in the audience.

Epic Fail.

Basically what I get from this speaker that you tout is that he is almost trying to deny that any rockets are being fired from Gaza at all. Ve Ata?

 

[Indeependent]

"Terrorists."

Do you mean like the Zionist founders of Israel, the Irgun were? You know, the ones who used terrorist tactics against the British -- such as the King David hotel bombing?

Is that what you mean?

Surely you can dig up something from within the last 50 years?

You mean events like the so-called Holocaust are no longer relevant?

It's pretty pathetic that you must constantly reference a 60+ year old event to highlight Jew terrorists; but then again, that's all that's in the Jew hating arsenal.

The Holocaust is relevant in that we must prevent any act of malevolence of it's nature from occurring again.
For instance, the Holocausts that are occurring across the entire Islamic world.
The mass murder of people due to their ethnic/religious backgrounds, not due to their barbaric actions.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Goldstone report is a piece of ****

Goldstone admitted himself it was all smoke and mirrors, and totally inaccurate and biased report.

No he didn't.

He just caved under pressure.

He changed his tune when he became aware of more facts.

What facts did he find and what change did he make?

 

[aris2chat]

No he didn't.

He just caved under pressure.

He changed his tune when he became aware of more facts.

What facts did he find and what change did he make?

Do you honestly never read the news in the last five years? How could you not know?
and you don't know how to do a search?
Reconsidering the Goldstone Report on Israel and war crimes - The Washington Post

 

[amity1844]

1) They have no neighbourhoods until they agree mutual borders.

2) Act like second class citizens and that is how you will be treated. As recent reports show the Palestinians are just blood thirsty monsters that revel in violence and killing

3) they have a country with plenty of space when they learn how to run it in accordance with International law and the UN charter. Until such time the blockade and occupation stand.

Can you cite the source of this idiotic "report"?
What did "they" do, ask Palestinians "is it true you are just blood thirsty monsters that revel in violence and killing?"

And I still can't find anyone who will square the fact that Hamas provided one hour's warning of intention to strike Tel Aviv with the assertion that they are "bloodthirsty killers."

 

[Indeependent]

1) They have no neighbourhoods until they agree mutual borders.

2) Act like second class citizens and that is how you will be treated. As recent reports show the Palestinians are just blood thirsty monsters that revel in violence and killing

3) they have a country with plenty of space when they learn how to run it in accordance with International law and the UN charter. Until such time the blockade and occupation stand.

Can you cite the source of this idiotic "report"?
What did "they" do, ask Palestinians "is it true you are just blood thirsty monsters that revel in violence and killing?"

And I still can't find anyone who will square the fact that Hamas provided one hour's warning of intention to strike Tel Aviv with the assertion that they are "bloodthirsty killers."

I politely asked for a link.

 

[Ibentoken]

Defend this.
Pro-Palestinian protesters try to enter Paris synagogues, scuffle with police | Fox News

 

[Indeependent]

Defend this.
Pro-Palestinian protesters try to enter Paris synagogues, scuffle with police | Fox News

The Jews have infiltrated the Wine and Cheese Industries.

 

[Vigilante]

 

[MikeK]

It's pretty pathetic that you must constantly reference a 60+ year old event to highlight Jew terrorists; but then again, that's all that's in the Jew hating arsenal.

Oy!

The Holocaust is relevant in that we must prevent any act of malevolence of it's nature from occurring again.

But a terrorist bombing that killed 93 innocent people is neither relevant nor malevolent? Why not? Because those victims weren't Jews?

 

[amity1844]

You dish Israel because they didn't allow human shields to deter their retaliation but say nothing about the folks who were using the human children to shield themselves.

If you allow terrorist to fire indiscriminately from shielded areas like schools and hospitals and not fire back the terrorist win. They can then fire on you anytime they want to and you can do nothing in return. Is that what you want? A world where the terrorist win every fight because they are willing to use civilians to protect themselves from return fire?

No, no, you've got that ALL BACKWARD.
You mean ISRAEL uses PALESTINIAN CHILDREN as human shields:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/israe...ses-palestinian-children-as-human-shields.htm

 

[Crystalclear]

You dish Israel because they didn't allow human shields to deter their retaliation but say nothing about the folks who were using the human children to shield themselves.

If you allow terrorist to fire indiscriminately from shielded areas like schools and hospitals and not fire back the terrorist win. They can then fire on you anytime they want to and you can do nothing in return. Is that what you want? A world where the terrorist win every fight because they are willing to use civilians to protect themselves from return fire?

No, no, you've got that ALL BACKWARD.
You mean ISRAEL uses PALESTINIAN CHILDREN as human shields:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/israe...ses-palestinian-children-as-human-shields.htm

Israel doesn't need human shields, they have Iron Dome already. Nobody has been killed, so no Palestinian children can even have been killed in Israel.

 

[Slyhunter]

You dish Israel because they didn't allow human shields to deter their retaliation but say nothing about the folks who were using the human children to shield themselves.

If you allow terrorist to fire indiscriminately from shielded areas like schools and hospitals and not fire back the terrorist win. They can then fire on you anytime they want to and you can do nothing in return. Is that what you want? A world where the terrorist win every fight because they are willing to use civilians to protect themselves from return fire?

No, no, you've got that ALL BACKWARD.
You mean ISRAEL uses PALESTINIAN CHILDREN as human shields:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/israe...ses-palestinian-children-as-human-shields.htm

Your link is broken but if it's pointing to the case where a commander used Palestinians as shield and was promptly punished for doing so once his higher ranking officers discovered it, it's crap.

Hamas does not punish those that use civilians as shields. Israelites do.

 

[Daniyel]

Anyway its all got out of control here, about the OP.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/groups/i-stand-with-israel.html

 

[Crystalclear]

You dish Israel because they didn't allow human shields to deter their retaliation but say nothing about the folks who were using the human children to shield themselves.



If you allow terrorist to fire indiscriminately from shielded areas like schools and hospitals and not fire back the terrorist win. They can then fire on you anytime they want to and you can do nothing in return. Is that what you want? A world where the terrorist win every fight because they are willing to use civilians to protect themselves from return fire?

No, no, you've got that ALL BACKWARD.

You mean ISRAEL uses PALESTINIAN CHILDREN as human shields:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/israe...ses-palestinian-children-as-human-shields.htm

Your link is broken but if it's pointing to the case where a commander used Palestinians as shield and was promptly punished for doing so once his higher ranking officers discovered it, it's crap.



Hamas does not punish those that use civilians as shields. Israelites do.

Just like the killers of the Palestinian boy are being charged by Israel. Not anything is done in Palestine to search for the killers of the Israeli kids.

 

[Indeependent]

It's pretty pathetic that you must constantly reference a 60+ year old event to highlight Jew terrorists; but then again, that's all that's in the Jew hating arsenal.

Oy!

The Holocaust is relevant in that we must prevent any act of malevolence of it's nature from occurring again.

But a terrorist bombing that killed 93 innocent people is neither relevant nor malevolent? Why not? Because those victims weren't Jews?

Sorry, MikeK{ee}, but you dealt your ONE card and cannot POSSIBLY compare that card against a MILLENNIUM of savagery.
Well, actually you could...because you're at least part idiot.