Zone1 The Handmaid's Tale: A Perversion of Christianity

[Hafar1014]

That's called ignorance, pride and arrogance.

Then why has my life been so successful? What have you done for humanity. I worked in 4 mental hospitals treating the mentally many were homeless, changed trauma therapy for infant trauma published it and offered it to the world free, saved marriages, healed traumatized adults, literally saved peoples lives and a 74 year old depressed woman sexually abused by her father was suffering form PTSD and depression who couldnt afford my 200.00 an hour fee was treated for free and I relieved her pain. All without the threat of hell. God damn Im good. No Im better than that. You do know humility is my best trait

 

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Then why has my life been so successful? What have you done for humanity. I worked in 4 mental hospitals treating the mentally many were homeless, changed trauma therapy for infant trauma published it and offered it to the world free, saved marriages, healed traumatized adults, literally saved peoples lives and a 74 year old depressed woman sexually abused by her father was suffering form PTSD and depression who couldnt afford my 200.00 an hour fee was treated for free and I relieved her pain. All without the threat of hell. God damn Im good. No Im better than that. You do know humility is my best trait

I've read your posts here. I've seen your poor behaviors. The only explanation I have for your success is that you didn't behave like you do here.

 

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Very true thats called independence

Judaism strongly teaches that human beings are accountable to God for their actions. This concept of accountability, often tied to the principles of free will, divine justice, and the covenant (brit), is central to Jewish life, emphasizing that choices have consequences both in this world and the next.
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Key aspects of Jewish teaching on accountability include:

• The Covenant and Commandments (Mitzvot): Judaism is a way of life built on taking responsibility through fulfilling commandments. These laws govern both ethical behavior toward others and rituals toward God, as explained by Reconstructing Judaism.
• Active Partnership: Accountability is not passive obedience; it is often described as partnering with God to shape the world and bring godliness into it.
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• Divine Justice and Judgment: Judaism maintains that God is a "record keeper" who assesses actions, though this is often balanced with the understanding that God does not expect perfection but rather sincere effort.
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• Repentance (Teshuvah): Accountability does not mean unavoidable punishment. Through teshuvah (returning/repathing), a person can fix errors, transform their life, and change their judgment.
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• Ethical Obligation: The Torah requires correcting others regarding sins and insists on taking responsibility for actions, particularly those that wrong other people.
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While God is viewed as a just judge, Jewish tradition also emphasizes that God is compassionate and does not expect humans to be perfect, say Reconstructing Judaism.

 

[Hafar1014]

Judaism strongly teaches that human beings are accountable to God for their actions. This concept of accountability, often tied to the principles of free will, divine justice, and the covenant (brit), is central to Jewish life, emphasizing that choices have consequences both in this world and the next.
Torah.org +2
Key aspects of Jewish teaching on accountability include:

• The Covenant and Commandments (Mitzvot): Judaism is a way of life built on taking responsibility through fulfilling commandments. These laws govern both ethical behavior toward others and rituals toward God, as explained by Reconstructing Judaism.
• Active Partnership: Accountability is not passive obedience; it is often described as partnering with God to shape the world and bring godliness into it.
  Reconstructing Judaism +1
• Divine Justice and Judgment: Judaism maintains that God is a "record keeper" who assesses actions, though this is often balanced with the understanding that God does not expect perfection but rather sincere effort.
  Reconstructing Judaism +1
• Repentance (Teshuvah): Accountability does not mean unavoidable punishment. Through teshuvah (returning/repathing), a person can fix errors, transform their life, and change their judgment.
  Reconstructing Judaism +4
• Ethical Obligation: The Torah requires correcting others regarding sins and insists on taking responsibility for actions, particularly those that wrong other people.
  Aish.com

While God is viewed as a just judge, Jewish tradition also emphasizes that God is compassionate and does not expect humans to be perfect, say Reconstructing Judaism.

 

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You must not be Jewish.

 

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Do you believe that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes?

 

[Hafar1014]

You must not be Jewish.

I am my mother was my father was not he was Protestant. Judaism is defined by the mother.

 

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I am my mother was my father was not he was Protestant. Judaism is defined by the mother.

This doesn't make any sense.

 

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I am my mother was my father was not he was Protestant. Judaism is defined by the mother.

Were you taught that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes?

 

[Hafar1014]

Were you taught that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes?

Were you taught only punishment and threats cause good behavior because in your words we are animals. I dont even punish my cat

 

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Were you taught only punishment and threats cause good behavior because in your words we are animals. I dont even punish my cat

Do you believe that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes in this life?

If not, why do you suppose that all behaviors would lead to equal outcomes in the afterlife?

 

[Hafar1014]

Do you believe that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes in this life?

If not, why do you suppose that all behaviors would lead to equal outcomes in the afterlife?

The afterlife existed before moral know it alls like you did

 

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The afterlife existed before moral know it alls like you did

Do you believe that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes in this life?

If not, why do you suppose that all behaviors would lead to equal outcomes in the afterlife?

 

[ding]

Were you taught only punishment and threats cause good behavior because in your words we are animals. I dont even punish my cat

I was taught that behaviors and actions have consequences. Good behaviors and actions have good consequences and bad behaviors and actions have bad consequences. It's called accountability.

Why won't you answer my questions? Do all behaviors have equal outcomes?

 

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The afterlife existed before moral know it alls like you did

And has absolutely nothing to do with hell existing or not existing which is a subject YOU keep bringing up.

Do you believe that all behaviors have equal outcomes?

 

[Hafar1014]

I was taught that behaviors and actions have consequences. Good behaviors and actions have good consequences and bad behaviors and actions have bad consequences. It's called accountability.

Why won't you answer my questions? Do all behaviors have equal outcomes?

Your questions are dumb you dont understand context so they cant be answered

 

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Your questions are dumb you dont understand context so they cant be answered

No. They aren't. Your beliefs are illogical. All behaviors do not lead to equal outcomes. Why should all behaviors lead to equal outcomes in the afterlife?

 

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Your questions are dumb you dont understand context so they cant be answered

You have been painted into a corner.

 

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Your questions are dumb you dont understand context so they cant be answered

Judaism disagrees.

Judaism does not teach that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes. On the contrary, Jewish tradition emphasizes that actions have distinct consequences, and it strongly focuses on ethical behavior, accountability, and the impact of choices on both the individual and society.
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Here is how Judaism approaches behavior and outcomes:

• Behavior Matters Most: Judaism is a performance-oriented faith that prioritizes action and behavior over mere feelings or intentions.
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• Accountability and Consequences: Jewish teaching emphasizes that individuals are responsible for their actions and that actions bring specific outcomes. The Torah includes "blessings" for following divine laws and "curses" or negative outcomes for failing to do so.
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• The Power of Choice: The concept of free will is foundational, meaning individuals are expected to choose good behaviors and avoid harmful ones, with the understanding that these choices build up or break down one’s life and community.
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• Reward and Punishment: While not always linear in a material sense, there is a core belief that righteousness (doing good) brings positive consequences, while wickedness leads to negative consequences.
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• Ethical Obligation: Judaism mandates specific behaviors—such as giving charity (tzedakah), pursuing justice, and protecting the vulnerable—designed to produce a just and holy society.
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Key Distinctions in Equality:

• Equality of Worth: Judaism teaches that all people are created in the "Image of God" and deserve equal dignity.
• Inequality of Outcomes: While encouraging equality of opportunity and fairness, Judaism does not suggest that all behaviors deserve or result in the same outcome.

 

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Your questions are dumb you dont understand context so they cant be answered

So if Judaism teaches that not all behaviors lead to equal outcomes in THIS life, why do you believe all behaviors will lead to equal outcomes in the NEXT life?

Especially when Judaism teaches that it doesn't.

Judaism does not teach that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes in the next life. While Judaism places its primary emphasis on ethical behavior and action in this world (Olam Ha-Zeh), it teaches that human actions directly impact the soul’s experience in the afterlife, known as Olam Ha-Ba (the World to Come).
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Core Concepts of Afterlife Outcomes in Judaism

• Individual Responsibility: Judaism teaches that actions are monitored and every individual is responsible for their behavior.
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• Rewards and Punishments: Jewish tradition holds that the righteous merit Gan Eden (a spiritual Paradise), while the wicked endure Gehinnom (a temporary place of purification).
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• Justice and Fairness: Belief in an afterlife serves to ensure that justice is meted out, as not all righteous individuals are rewarded or wicked people punished in this lifetime.
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• Distinct Levels: While specific descriptions vary, the soul’s ultimate state is believed to correspond to its spiritual accomplishments in this life.
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Key Differences in Afterlife Outcomes

1. Gan Eden (Paradise/Spiritual Reward): A place of spiritual perfection for the righteous.
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2. Gehinnom (Purgatory/Purification): A temporary place (often considered a maximum of 12 months) for the purification of the soul from sins.
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3. No Share in the Future: According to traditional views (e.g., Mishnah Sanhedrin 10:1), certain types of extreme behavior or denial of fundamental tenets may result in the loss of a share in the World to Come.
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While some modern or secular interpretations of Judaism focus less on the specifics of the afterlife, traditional theology heavily emphasizes that personal actions in this world create different, non-equal outcomes in the next.