Zone1 The fundamental differences between a follower of Christ and Catholicism is...

[Unkotare]

You're not even Christian. You don't get to lecture Christians about Christianity

Catholics are Christians.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Catholics are Christians.

You claim to be Catholic?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Catholics are Christians.

Tell me, is it Christian to comfort a frightened or injured animal, or is terrorizing that animal Christian behavior?

 

[Zebra]

Catholics are Christians.

Yes, they are!

 

[BothWings]

The Catholic Church ! Please note: I did not say they wrote it.

What do you use....the King James ? That is the dude who had it rewritten to suit himself.

BTW: When the word Catholic (not sure what language-since it is a translation) was first use it meant anyone who followed and believed in the powers of Jesus. It translates to UNIVERSAL.

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I'm sure he wasn't the only one either. The upper classes who could afford the service of scribes probably did it throughout history. Modern people have nothing to compare it to. No real reference. Just wanting to believe the version they have is the one that survived. Just like we have diabolical media wars between different factions who want to control people and keep their interest, holy scriptures in any religion were the historical equivalent of the media that modern factions are fighting each other through now.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Yes, they are!

Are Sabbath keeping Christians, Christian?//

 

[Zebra]

Carl in Michigan

What is funny about that posting..?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Carl in Michigan

What is funny about that posting..?

I believe there are a few Catholics EVOLVING to Christianity. But an organization in rebellion against so much of God's teachings is not Christian in the biblical sense

"Why do you call me 'Lord' and do not the things I say?"

"In VAIN do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men"

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Are Sabbath keeping Christians, Christian?//

Still waiting Zebra

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Fakest news.

 

[Meriweather]

Where in the Bible did Jesus or the apostles make that statement?

Let's take a look at what Jesus says according to the Bible.

Salvation is from the Jews. (John 4)
He who believes and is baptized will be saved. (Mark 16:16)
Unless you repent you will all likewise perish. (Luke 13:3)
He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. (John 6:54)

As you pointed out in the OP:

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it. (CCC 846)

Many non-Catholic Christian churches do not believe in the true presence of Christ--body, blood, soul, and divinity--in the Eucharist. They give another explanation for what Christ "really" meant. Scripture, tradition, and outside historical sources affirm Christ's true presence in the Eucharist was practiced from earliest Christianity until Protestants began practicing a different belief about fifteen hundred years later. Another scriptural verse: Who is not with me is against me, and he who does gather with me, scatters. (Matthew 12:30)

It should be remembered that the Catholic Church also teaches that non-Catholic Christian churches are members of the Body of Christ.

At every Mass the Catholic Church teaches the Old Testament (from the Jews). It teaches Baptism (a sacrament), Repentance and Reconciliation (a sacrament), the full presence of Christ in the Eucharist (a sacrament).

Perhaps your question should be, Must a follower of Christ observe all of Jesus' points for salvation as the Catholic Church observes; or can salvation be at hand for someone who observes even just one of the four points of salvation?

 

[BreezeWood]

Carl in Michigan

What is funny about that posting..?

they use the same bible ...

what proof is there left by the itinerant of its own accord - they claimed to be a messiah.

 

[Meriweather]

But an organization in rebellion against so much of God's teachings is not Christian in the biblical sense

No rebellion at all. Unfortunately English (even the King James English) has evolving definitions. Study the etymology of Hebrew, Aramaic, Latin, and Greek words, and you will understand no rebellion going on--simply the adherence to the original meanings of what was being said.

 

[Donald H]

The Apostle Paul was describing people like you.

2 Corinthians 4:4
4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Tell that to ding, he and I are the only two on this board who aren't afraid to call his bible a book of lies.

And the Catholic church has got our backs on that too!

Where do we begin to receive the truth? How do you feel about the 'big fish and Jonah story?

Ding and I have cleared our beliefs with the pope already. Are you still going with Satan's lies?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

No rebellion at all. Unfortunately English (even the King James English) has evolving definitions. Study the etymology of Hebrew, Aramaic, Latin, and Greek words, and you will understand no rebellion going on--simply the adherence to the original meanings of what was being said.

Virtually EVERYTHING your church teaches directly violates God's commands.

 

[BreezeWood]

- there are no commands from the heavens ...

 

[BreezeWood]

he and I are the only two on this board who aren't afraid to call his bible a book of lies.

not true regardless the majority that do know all three desert bibles are distortions of one type or another.

 

[Mack The Finger]

Thank you for sharing your opinion.

Thank you for sharing your opinion on his opinion in a civil manner.

I feel sorry for people that are obsessed about anything esp the anti-Catholic / Jew haters.

 

[Donald H]

Thank you for sharing your opinion on his opinion in a civil manner.

I feel sorry for people that are obsessed about anything esp the anti-Catholic / Jew haters.

I can refute just about anything you write !

As a Catholic...I do not believe you go strait to hell. I never even heard that before.

Last week some religious gun nut from Cali tried to tell me Catholic worship saints.

He did not know I was a Catholic and I told him that is wrong.

He ended up going nuts on me. I mean I thought I was going to have to call the coppers and get a mental health check. I went over to his house to show where in the Bible it said to pray with saints. These are Jesus's words on the matter !

I suggest you read the Apostles Creed...written by the Harps in the second century.

The Apostles' Creed is a concise Catholic statement of core Christian beliefs, summarizing the faith of the early Church and focusing on the Trinity—God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit—along with key aspects of salvation and the Church itself. Though its exact origin is debated, it functions as a foundational profession of faith, originally used for baptismal instruction and now recited as a personal affirmation of belief and a summary of the unchanging Christian dogma.

Have you accepted your church's beliefs in Darwinian evolution yet?

Give us the long version of the answer. If you know it?

Canada takes in Palestinians.

 

[Mack The Finger]

The upper classes who could afford the service of scribes probably did it throughout history.

Good post...never gave it a thought but I'm sure your 100% correct.

Just like we have diabolical media wars between different factions who want to control people and keep their interest, holy scriptures in any religion were the historical equivalent of the media that modern factions are fighting each other through now.

Agreed !