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The Flag of Treason
- Thread starter rightwinger
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- Apr 1, 2011
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The Southern Poverty Law Center is a propaganda organ with zero credibility.Of course I doYea, yea
Except that's not the Confederate flag.
Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.
Confederate Battle Flag
It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism
You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.
Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks
Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.
OK Regional pride in what?
That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?
The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.
What part of this is confusing to you?
THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.
What part of this is confusing to you?
The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.
Either you are confused or sympathetic.
You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.
The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.
A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.
This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.
Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?
Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible
Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.
Their service to their States is worthy of respect and commemoration. The politics of their leaders is not relevant in that context.
Is this a monument to WWII vets or a tribute to FDRs New Deal?
View attachment 358696
Your pretense of being too stupid to understand this is not credible.
You are just rationalizing your bullying behavior.
"Most of the people who were involved in erecting the monuments were not necessarily erecting a monument to the past," said Jane Dailey, an associate professor of history at the University of Chicago."But were rather, erecting them toward a white supremacist future."
The most recent comprehensive study of Confederate statues and monuments across the country was published by the Southern Poverty Law Center last year. A look at this chart shows huge spikes in construction twice during the 20th century: in the early 1900s, and then again in the 1950s and 60s. Both were times of extreme civil rights tension."
Confederate Statues Were Built To Further A 'White Supremacist Future'
President Trump hasn't mentioned it as he's defended the memorabilia over the past week, but historians say the statues were originally built to send a clear message to black Americans.www.npr.org
- Apr 1, 2011
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ROFL! How?You've already proved it for me.You certainly haven't proven I'm ignorant of anything.
Actually, there was no ‘confederacy’ (see: Texas v. White (1869)); no state ‘seceded’ – the Southern states were in rebellion, their residents who fought against Federal forces were committing an act of treason, they were fighting to defend slavery, and their acts were in fact war crimes.
The idealized, romanticized perception of the ‘South’ and ‘confederacy’ is nothing but a myth, a baseless revisionist contrivance intended to conceal the evil that was slavery, and the defense thereof.
The idealized, romanticized perception of the ‘South’ and ‘confederacy’ is nothing but a myth, a baseless revisionist contrivance intended to conceal the evil that was slavery, and the defense thereof.
- Apr 1, 2011
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Actually, there was no ‘confederacy’ (see: Texas v. White (1869)); no state ‘seceded’ – the Southern states were in rebellion, their residents who fought against Federal forces were committing an act of treason, they were fighting to defend slavery, and their acts were in fact war crimes.
The idealized, romanticized perception of the ‘South’ and ‘confederacy’ is nothing but a myth, a baseless revisionist contrivance intended to conceal the evil that was slavery, and the defense thereof.
Texas v. White was decided by a Court packed with Lincoln appointed hacks. It was full of contradictions and obviously wrong.
Secession is not treason, moron.
Everything you believe is nothing but a myth.
Why does our President support the racist, treasonous Confederate Flag?
The flag in question isn’t the “Confederate Flag”, it’s the Virginia Battle flag. It was used before the civil war for Southern pride, and after.
Should all southern states change their flags too? After all, they were a part of the Confederacy. Shouldn’t the Democratic Party be abolished too? They were the party that supported slavery and the formation of the Confederacy.
If one flag goes, then it all must go.
In 2020, it is the flag that represents the Confederacy
Yes it is used in “southern pride”
Southern Pride in breaking up the United States
A pride in white power.
Your fascist party is breaking up America.
LOL, yeah, what Democratic authorized this:
"WASHINGTON – Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley said that some soldiers deployed to Washington, D.C. to possibly assist in thwarting Black Lives Matter protests were issued bayonets, USA TODAY has confirmed.
"Members of the Army’s 82nd Airborne Division from Fort Bragg in North Carolina and the 3rd U.S. Infantry Regiment, known as the "Old Guard", based just outside the nation's capital, were mobilized early last month in response to demonstrations over police brutality following the death of George Floyd."
Gen. Milley: Some soldiers mobilized to DC amid Black Lives Matter protests were issued bayonets
Members of both the 82nd Airborne Division and the Old Guard were given bayonets, but were instructed to keep them in their "scabbards."www.yahoo.com
If you had bothered to read your own link, you would see it was the Joint Chiefs of Staff General who authorized the protection of our monuments from your Dimwinger rioters.
Glad I could clear that up for ya.
A distinction without a difference. Are you really incapable of posting anything reasonable, rational or substantive? The Commander-in-Chief is responsible, the buck stops there. If Trump was aware of it, and didn't see the appearance of an armed US Military moving on a peaceful protest with Bayonets affixed, and didn't object, that is one more reason to NOT vote for Trump.
If he didn't know, that shows he is out of touch with the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and that is another reason he should not serve a second term.
You people are hateful assholes.
If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. AWhatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.Of course I doYea, yea
Except that's not the Confederate flag.
Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.
Confederate Battle Flag
It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism
You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.
Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks
Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.
OK Regional pride in what?
That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?
The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.
What part of this is confusing to you?
THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.
What part of this is confusing to you?
The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.
Either you are confused or sympathetic.
You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.
The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.
A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.
This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.
Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?
Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible
Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.
His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule
So, his pretense that he was open to negotiation, that was a lie?
Correct. They are seen as a testament to the bravery and sacrifice of soldiers who gave their lives to stop fascism and preserve liberty. Whereas the confederate monuments, largely erected well after the war across 31 states, were a recognition of the south's resistance to reconstruction and the establishment of Jim Crow laws. Don't you know anything about US history?The service of the WWII vets and the monument to them, is not seen as a monument to the politics or policies of FDR.
Confederate Statues Were Built To Further A 'White Supremacist Future'
President Trump hasn't mentioned it as he's defended the memorabilia over the past week, but historians say the statues were originally built to send a clear message to black Americans.
I've never heard anyone who supports the monuments make that claim.
San Souci
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- Feb 4, 2020
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Why does our President support the racist, treasonous Confederate Flag?
Why do dirty REDS in the Democrat support Karl Marx? First ,it is a lie. Second ,anything the NEWS says is fake.
WWII is not comparable to the CW in any way. Nice pretense,dope.Of course I doYea, yea
Except that's not the Confederate flag.
Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.
Confederate Battle Flag
It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism
You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.
Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks
Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.
OK Regional pride in what?
That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?
The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.
What part of this is confusing to you?
THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.
What part of this is confusing to you?
The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.
Either you are confused or sympathetic.
You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.
The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.
A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.
This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.
Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?
Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible
Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.
Their service to their States is worthy of respect and commemoration. The politics of their leaders is not relevant in that context.
Is this a monument to WWII vets or a tribute to FDRs New Deal?
View attachment 358696
Your pretense of being too stupid to understand this is not credible.
You are just rationalizing your bullying behavior.
Their "service" was for the self stated pupose of preserving slavery. There's no getting around that, gomer. That was the entire point.
The service of the WWII vets and the monument to them, is not seen as a monument to the politics or policies of FDR.
That is my point. Your pretense of being too stupid to understand it, is not credible.
Do you want to argue that we SHOULD see the WWII Memorial as an endorsement of the New Deal?
Even if you do, that would still be YOUR OPINION, that does not define how EVERYONE else sees it.
Your lies about the Confederate Memorials are you being a bully and an asshole.Again, retard. The confederacy said very clearly what reason they were acting on. The preservation of their way of life. Of slavery.The service of the WWII vets and the monument to them, is not seen as a monument to the politics or policies of FDR.
Even if you want to use the "pretense" that they were fighting for their freedom. I then would ask, freedom to do what?
To preserve their way of life? Yes. That would be Slavery, dope.
There is no getting around that or minimizing it. The fact that the average rube farmer fighter didn't know that is irrelevant to the fact that if the confederacy had won, slavery would have continued.
You are the one pretending to be retarded, not me.
The service of men fighting a war, is not the same as the policies of the government.
The monuments are to the fighting men, not the government.
The WWII memorial is not about FDR.
Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansionHe only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. AWhatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.Of course I doYea, yea
Except that's not the Confederate flag.
Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.
Confederate Battle Flag
It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism
You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.
Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks
Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.
OK Regional pride in what?
That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?
The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.
What part of this is confusing to you?
THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.
What part of this is confusing to you?
The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.
Either you are confused or sympathetic.
You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.
The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.
A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.
This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.
Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?
Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible
Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.
His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule
You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.
The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades
They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.
Of course I doYea, yea
Except that's not the Confederate flag.
Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.
Confederate Battle Flag
It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism
You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.
Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks
Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.
OK Regional pride in what?
That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?
The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.
What part of this is confusing to you?
THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.
What part of this is confusing to you?
The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.
Either you are confused or sympathetic.
You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.
The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.
A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.
This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.
Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?
Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible
Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.
Their service to their States is worthy of respect and commemoration. The politics of their leaders is not relevant in that context.
Is this a monument to WWII vets or a tribute to FDRs New Deal?
View attachment 358696
Your pretense of being too stupid to understand this is not credible.
You are just rationalizing your bullying behavior.
"Most of the people who were involved in erecting the monuments were not necessarily erecting a monument to the past," said Jane Dailey, an associate professor of history at the University of Chicago."But were rather, erecting them toward a white supremacist future."
The most recent comprehensive study of Confederate statues and monuments across the country was published by the Southern Poverty Law Center last year. A look at this chart shows huge spikes in construction twice during the 20th century: in the early 1900s, and then again in the 1950s and 60s. Both were times of extreme civil rights tension."
Confederate Statues Were Built To Further A 'White Supremacist Future'
President Trump hasn't mentioned it as he's defended the memorabilia over the past week, but historians say the statues were originally built to send a clear message to black Americans.
The Southern Poverty Law Center is a lefty organization that is not objective or credible.
WTH_Progs?
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This is the root turning the OP Rightwinger into an eggplant, and he's not alone by far. Trump should be racist, the left are to be held irresponsible, stuff like that...........
Hutch Starskey
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Lincoln was a pragmatist. He knew he had no power to end slavery. Best he could do is stop its expansionHe only opposed extending slavery to new states. he did not oppose slavery. He even stated he would sign an amendment that would enshrine slavery into the Constitution if that would keep the Southern states from seceding.If one looks at Lincoln’s position on slavery throughout his career he repeatedly opposed slavery. AWhatever the Confederacy's stated reasons, Lincoln did not invade Virginia to free the slaves. He didn't give a damn about the slaves.Of course I doYea, yea
Except that's not the Confederate flag.
Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.
Confederate Battle Flag
It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism
You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.
Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks
Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.
OK Regional pride in what?
That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?
The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.
What part of this is confusing to you?
THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.
What part of this is confusing to you?
The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.
Either you are confused or sympathetic.
You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.
The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.
A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.
This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.
Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?
Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible
Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.
His position was so extreme that the south chose secession rather than live under Lincolns rule
You simply don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Your understanding of history is all leftwing myths.
The South overreacted to Lincoln’s election and secession resulted in the end of slavery in four years rather than in decades
They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.
Exactly. What interests were those, dope?They were thinking long term and were desperate. They did not want to live under a government that was actively hostile to them and their interests.
Actually that is mentioned by the phrase enemies foreign and DOMESTIC and by rebellion.
9thIDdoc
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No problem. But that statement was made prior to his Inaugural Address, is part of the reason the South was convinced he intended to promptly free the slaves, and the two speeches appear to contradict each other.Looks like he was right, what's the problem?Abraham Lincoln, who had declared "Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free..."
What do you make of the NYC riots? Seems to indicate to me that the actual North of the times was somewhat different from how it is currently being represented.
9thIDdoc
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At the time of secession the States were not enemies (foreign or domestic) nor were they in rebellion. When the Union attacked SC it was a sovereign State and no longer a part of the union so not in rebellion.Actually that is mentioned by the phrase enemies foreign and DOMESTIC and by rebellion.
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Nope.Actually that is mentioned by the phrase enemies foreign and DOMESTIC and by rebellion.
dudmuck
Diamond Member
Its an NPR article.Of course I doYea, yea
Except that's not the Confederate flag.
Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.
Confederate Battle Flag
It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism
You don't get to decide that. I consider it a symbol of harmless regional pride and you to be a race baiting asshole.
Your flag is a symbol of hatred of the United States or a symbol of hatred of blacks
Nope. It's a harmless symbol of regional pride and you are a faggot.
OK Regional pride in what?
That they hated the US so much that they fought against us
That they used to own slaves?
The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.
What part of this is confusing to you?
THat is a rhetorical question. I know you are just a race baiting troll asshole who is just here to be an asshole and troll.It's not confusing in any way. In fact, it couldn't be more clear.The culture. THe history. The brave fight against great odds. Ect.
What part of this is confusing to you?
The culture of white supremacy.
The history of brutal slavery.
The brave fight to preserve their racial supremacy and expand brutal slavery to further their economic windfall from it.
Either you are confused or sympathetic.
You don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.I'm not defining anything. That's what the confederacy said they were all sbout.don't get to define what other people care about. You do get to try and reveal yourself to be a dishonest asshole.
Sorry if you believed otherwise. Rubes seem to abound in the south.
The government is not the nation. The policies of the government are not the nation. Trump runs this country. Yet, Hollywood is a very different and distinct community and culture within it.
A future statue could celebrate this time period's Hollywood and not be a celebration of our government or Trump's policies.
This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible.
Why are you working so hard to pretend to be so stupid?
Because it gives you an excuse for your bullying behavior.Not my pretense. The clearly stated reasons the confederacy gave for their actions, dope.This is a simple point. YOur pretense that you are too stupid to understand it, is not credible
Why would you choose to venerate the men who exploited the average white southern farmer to fight their war without telling them why?
Sounds like they were treated no better than negros.
Their service to their States is worthy of respect and commemoration. The politics of their leaders is not relevant in that context.
Is this a monument to WWII vets or a tribute to FDRs New Deal?
View attachment 358696
Your pretense of being too stupid to understand this is not credible.
You are just rationalizing your bullying behavior.
"Most of the people who were involved in erecting the monuments were not necessarily erecting a monument to the past," said Jane Dailey, an associate professor of history at the University of Chicago."But were rather, erecting them toward a white supremacist future."
The most recent comprehensive study of Confederate statues and monuments across the country was published by the Southern Poverty Law Center last year. A look at this chart shows huge spikes in construction twice during the 20th century: in the early 1900s, and then again in the 1950s and 60s. Both were times of extreme civil rights tension."
Confederate Statues Were Built To Further A 'White Supremacist Future'
President Trump hasn't mentioned it as he's defended the memorabilia over the past week, but historians say the statues were originally built to send a clear message to black Americans.
The Southern Poverty Law Center is a lefty organization that is not objective or credible.
NPR is trustworthy and least biased.
the only thing SPLC provided there is a chart of when statues were built.
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