The FDA did NOT approve the fizer vaccine!

[Grumblenuts]

Ugh, we're back to this

Never left it.

 

[Flopper]

I posted this information on Tuesday Aug 24. FDA sent a letter to Pfizer and a different one to BioNTech. Read the letters in the link and make up your mind what was said.


Dr. Robert Malone, inventor of mRNA vaccines and RNA as a drug says FDA is playing a "shell game." Pfizer vaccine has not been approved however BioNTech product has been approved after it becomes available. In other words, it hasn't been made yet.

Read article:

Dr. Malone calls out FDA for “bureaucratic shell game” on vaccine approval​

On the Aug. 24 morning edition of "War Room: Pandemic," vaccinologist Dr. Robert Malone called out the Food and Drug

warroom.org

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"According to the FDA, it is approved. "Pfizer Comirnaty" and "Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine" are biologically and chemically exactly the same thing. The only difference is the Information to recipients and care givers." It is true that they are legally distinct because the two companies are separate legal entities but products themselves are identical.

You asked, we answered: Are Pfizer's Comirnaty and BioNTech COVID-19 vaccines the same or different?

I've heard that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said Pfizer's Comirnaty and BioNTech formulas are distinctly different in their vaccine approval letter. Is that true?

www.nebraskamed.com

 

[Osiris-ODS]

Never left it.

You can lead a horse to water...

 

[Grumblenuts]

You can lead a horse to water...

Your trainer couldn't find the water.

Seriously, you've just been arguing semantics.. poorly. "Full approval" simply doesn't mean what you wish it to.
From Flopper's link above^:

The FDA's approval letter outlines rules Pfizer and BioNTech must follow to maintain full approval for people ages 16 and older. It also explains how the companies can earn full FDA approval for people 16 and under.

 

[Flopper]

I read the letters. They authorized the name change, and they extended the emergency use authorization. They did not give final approval. They're actually requiring nine additional clinical trials over the next 5 years. I wish more people would read source material not press releases.

If you read closely, it says the addition actions are required to maintain full approval. This is common with vaccine and drug approvals. It is part of the FDA program to monitor vaccines through research, development, clinical trials, and for at least 5 years after full approval.

 

[Flopper]

Facebook displays FDA approval of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine as it fights misinformation.​

Facebook on Wednesday said it'll be "sharing messages across Facebook in both English and Spanish" about the US Food and Drug Administration's full approval of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine. On Monday, Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine became the first to win full approval by the FDA.

"This is part of our ongoing efforts to connect people with reliable information," Facebook said in a tweet. "We've also updated our policies to remove claims that 'there are no FDA-approved vaccines' and 'the Pfizer vaccine is not FDA-approved.' We'll continue to look for and take action against new claims that are no longer accurate given the FDA's announcement."

Facebook displays FDA approval of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine as it fights misinformation

The company says the move is part of its "ongoing efforts to connect people with reliable information."

www.cnet.com

 

[gipper]

More conspiracy theory bullshit.

The hospitals are full of unvaccinated people, not vaccinated ones.

Again your not informed. Get informed. Stop being a dupe for Big Pharma.

The UK government just reported the following data, tucked away in their report on variants of concern:

Less than a third of delta variant deaths are in the unvaccinated.

Let me say that another way – two-thirds of Delta deaths in the UK are in the jabbed.

To be specific:

From the 1st of February to the 2nd of August, the UK recorded 742 Delta deaths (yes, the dreaded Delta has not taken that much life).

Out of the 742 deaths, 402 were fully vaccinated. 79 had received one shot. Only 253 were unvaccinated.

The report is here.
UK Data Destroys Entire Premise for Vaccine Push - LewRockwell

 

[Crepitus]

False.

Good lord, man! Pull your head outta yer ass and look around!

 

[Flopper]

Again your not informed. Get informed. Stop being a dupe for Big Pharma.

The UK government just reported the following data, tucked away in their report on variants of concern:

Less than a third of delta variant deaths are in the unvaccinated.

Let me say that another way – two-thirds of Delta deaths in the UK are in the jabbed.

To be specific:

From the 1st of February to the 2nd of August, the UK recorded 742 Delta deaths (yes, the dreaded Delta has not taken that much life).

Out of the 742 deaths, 402 were fully vaccinated. 79 had received one shot. Only 253 were unvaccinated.

The report is here.
UK Data Destroys Entire Premise for Vaccine Push - LewRockwell

You left out an important part of the quote.
Almost two-thirds of the people under 50 who have died in England with the delta variant were unvaccinated. Without more data, I don't think you can draw any conclusion from this other than about 2/3 of those under fifty who died in England with the delta variant were unvaccinated.

 

[Grumblenuts]

One can actually draw some easy conclusions just from looking at the current data. The UK and US being right next to one another makes for easy comparison, from Google's version at least.

The Delta variant has clearly caused a major increase in new coronavirus cases since heading down in March, both in the UK and US. However the death toll remains quite low relative to the U.S. This may easily be attributable to the approximate 10% higher full vaccination rate enjoyed by the U.K. now at 63.1% compared to only 52.5% in the U.S. with related 2,213 deaths reported yesterday compared to only 140 in the U.K.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Correct. They approved the Pfizer vaccine.

Who cares? They're paid by big pharma. The FDA has approved many medications that are now in lawyer ads for lawsuits.

Only 38 pages of drug recalls by FDA approved drugs. A total of 372.

Drug Recalls

FDA provides a searchable list of recalled products. Drug recalls are actions taken by a firm to remove a product from the market.

www.fda.gov

FDA approved drugs later pulled from the market as of 2014:

FDA-Approved Prescription Drugs Later Pulled from the Market by the FDA - Prescription Drug Ads - ProCon.org

According to the FDA, a “drug is removed from the market when its risks outweigh its benefits. A drug is usually taken off the market because of safety issues with the drug that cannot be corrected, such as when it is discovered that the drug can cause serious side effects that were not known at...

prescriptiondrugs.procon.org

 

[gipper]

You left out an important part of the quote.
Almost two-thirds of the people under 50 who have died in England with the delta variant were unvaccinated. Without more data, I don't think you can draw any conclusion from this other than about 2/3 of those under fifty who died in England with the delta variant were unvaccinated.

Yeah just ignore the fact that 2/3s of the deaths resulted in vaccinated patients. This fact blows up the establishment narrative that you are so fully invested in and accepted as truth.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Yeah just ignore the fact that 2/3s of the deaths resulted in vaccinated patients. This fact blows up the establishment narrative that you are so fully invested in and accepted as truth.

You're delusional.

 

[gipper]

You're delusional.

Are you illiterate?

 

[Smokin' OP]

Are you illiterate?

"just ignore the fact that 2/3s of the deaths resulted in vaccinated patients".
You're FOS, retard.

 

[gipper]

"just ignore the fact that 2/3s of the deaths resulted in vaccinated patients".
You're FOS, retard.

I’m guessing you missed the point.

 

[Grumblenuts]

I'm guessing you ignored the most published rebuttal which sums up:

In conclusion, while it is good that Waldburger is trying to keep in touch with the science of the Coronavirus, and more people should do so, he should approach it with a skeptical mind rather than a paranoid one. Encouraging people to see cover-ups just because of one odd statistic that can be twisted to say whatever he wants it to mean is not objective analysis, and is frankly insulting to the medical experts who are struggling hard to help keep the pandemic from slipping completely out of control. Some of the sources Waldburger uses, such as The Mail Online and The Spectator are notoriously anti-science and grossly unreliable, not just for failing to report scientific research accurately, but even for mis-reporting General News. The libertarian tone of some of Waldburger’s side-objections have a suspiciously familiar ring, and sound like many of the denialists on social media who are simply trying to rationalise not wanting to wear facemasks or get the jabs because… well, they just dislike them. They may even be scared of getting an injection. Because, you know, it hurts.

England is just a part of the UK. Delta is just one variant. 742 is too small a sample to begin with to draw any such conclusions from.

 

[Rumpboogie]

They certain did and it was with full approval. This is just more false information designed to keep people from getting vaccinated. It is just one of a half dozen such clams that have been discredit. The pace of Covid-19 vaccinations in the US has risen steadily over the past three weeks and full FDA approval is prompting businesses and local government to require vaccinations. Hate to break your bubble, but we're going to beat Covid-19.

Misinformation about the US Food and Drug Administration granting the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine full approval Monday has continued to spread on social media.

The latest false narrative centered on whether the agency had only granted the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, now being marketed under the name Comirnaty, an extension of its emergency use authorization. Threads claiming that the FDA didn’t approve the vaccine started to appear on 4chan, “The Patriots” (formerly “The Donald”) and other anonymous message boards. The false narrative was echoed by prominent conservative influencers on social media.

“They just extended the Emergency Use Authorization and then claimed something had substantially changed,” reads one popular post on 4chan’s /pol/ board. The claim arose from misreading a letter the FDA had sent to Pfizer. While the FDA did extend the emergency use authorization for children ages 12-15, it granted full approval for anyone 16 or older.

Damani Bryant Felder, a self-described “MAGA” supporter, echoed similar claims and said he didn’t misread the FDA’s letter. “I read the entire document, all 13 pages,” Felder said during a Facebook Live video that has been viewed at least 58,000 times. “What they have more or less done is that we’re going to extend this emergency use authorization, that’s what this document actually says.” Similarly, Zak Paine, under the Rumble username “Redpill78,” claimed the vaccine was not approved in an episode of his QAnon-themed show that has at least 83,000 views. He later said he misinterpreted the FDA letter but that he still wouldn’t take the vaccine.

During Steve Bannon’s “War Room” talk show on August 24, Robert Malone, a scientist who claims he invented mRNA technology and is a prominent Covid-19 vaccine skeptic, falsely said that the FDA only approved the BioNTech vaccine and that vaccine is different from the Pfizer one. The American multinational pharmaceutical firm Pfizer has partnered with the German biotechnology firm BioNTech, which developed the vaccine, for clinical trials and manufacturing support. Malone reiterated the false claim in a subsequent tweet.

Fact check: FDA has fully approved Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine

Claims that Pfizer's vaccine is not fully approved for the majority of Americans are wrong.

www.usatoday.com

Well, I guess you got your jabs and won't be around very much longer. R.I.P.

 

[RodISHI]

L

K, just in time for the new mandates which require children to be fully

... Do you get it yet?!

The clinical trials won't be complete until 2023.

 

[Indeependent]

Good lord, man! Pull your head outta yer ass and look around!

I do look around...I have family and friends all around the US, not to mention knowing dozens of people who work in hospitals and being acquainted with one guy who owns a hospital.
The owners and stock holders are making a killing.