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The FBI Raided Trump's Home Based On Some Of The Exact Crimes Hillary Committed

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Clinton set up a personal account for non-classified emails, and SOME classified emails slipped through. What she did was technically legal, except she didn't ask for permission, The main issue was that the server she used didn't have proper security, which while technically violates the law, didn't warrant charges. The use of a private server without clearance, in and of itself, is not something that would warrant criminal charges unless there was some other crime being committed connected to it.

What Trump did was STEAL classified documents, including documention on both the US nuclear program and those of two key allied, and keep them in an unsecured room at his golf resort. He ignored the National Archives' demands that the documents be returned for over a year, and then LIED to a federal judge by having his attorney file a sworn affidavit claiming that the all the documents had been returned. The national archives suspected he was lying, due to the fact that there were still thousands of documents still not accounted for, and asked the FBI to intervene with a search warrant, and they got one and raided the property, collecting well over 40 boxes that Trump claimed UNDER OATH that he didn't have.
 

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Hillary SENT no classified documents. They were sent TO her, not FROM her. And most were not classified when they were sent to her. THERE WERE ONLY 4 DOCUMENTS WHICH WERE CLASSIFIED.

Hillary Clinton was not dealing with FOIA requests, nor was her use of a private server against regulations. Regulations were changed AFTER she left office.

What Hillary did was the same thing that Condi Rice and other Bush offiicials did, and nobody complained when THEY did it.

She did these things AFTER turning over all of her documents.
She turned over an empty hard disk, dumbass.

BleachBit. The computer version of Arkancide.
 

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Hillary wasn’t trying to avoid freedom of information act requests, she was trying to get around the fact that government computers only have 20 MB of storage per employee.
You are such a dumbass lying fucktard, WTF do you know about US government computers?
 

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If Hillary was acting as Obama desired, and she probably was, then she would also have been totally exempt.
Which was essentially what Comey said, that she was not following the law, but had no criminal intent.
You do not have to have criminal intent to be charged with negligently handling classified information. However you are just a peon. Hillary is a high ranking Democrat who is totally above the rule of law.

Trump was never part of the “in crowd” in the D.C. Swamp so of course there will be an effort to hang him high for taking classified info to Mar-a-Lago. The problem is if Trump is indicted and prosecuted his supporters will raise holy hell that Hillary got off scot-free when the classified data that ended up on her server was hacked by nations unfriendly to ours. Some even ended up on Anthony Weiner’s laptop.



 

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Clinton set up a personal account for non-classified emails, and SOME classified emails slipped through. What she did was technically legal, except she didn't ask for permission, The main issue was that the server she used didn't have proper security, which while technically violates the law, didn't warrant charges. The use of a private server without clearance, in and of itself, is not something that would warrant criminal charges unless there was some other crime being committed connected to it.

What Trump did was STEAL classified documents, including documention on both the US nuclear program and those of two key allied, and keep them in an unsecured room at his golf resort. He ignored the National Archives' demands that the documents be returned for over a year, and then LIED to a federal judge by having his attorney file a sworn affidavit claiming that the all the documents had been returned. The national archives suspected he was lying, due to the fact that there were still thousands of documents still not accounted for, and asked the FBI to intervene with a search warrant, and they got one and raided the property, collecting well over 40 boxes that Trump claimed UNDER OATH that he didn't have.
You fail to mention the fact that Hillary’s server was likely hacked by foreign nations unfriendly to ours.


Plus classified email ended up on Anthony Weiner’s laptop.


But of course Hillary will never be prosecuted for negligently handling classified information because President Obama emailed her on her unauthorized server. We all know President Obama was our first black President and NOTHING can ever be allowed to stain his reputation. Obama is sacrosanct.

However if Trump is indicted and prosecuted the unfairness of how Hillary was allowed to walk will be pointed out. The sheer hypocrisy is obvious.


President Obama has been directly implicated in Hillary Clinton’s controversial private emails, according to documents recently released by the FBI. Sending emails to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton under an alias, Obama may have knowingly sent classified information through a poorly-secured private server.

We know that Obama was communicating with Clinton directly because Clinton’s close confidante, Huma Abedin, revealed details about her boss’ interactions with the White House during her whirlwind FBI testimony.

“‘How is this not classified?’” Abedin inquired, after being made aware that one of the emails sent by Clinton was directed to the president himself.

According to the FBI’s notes, Abedin was shocked to discover that the president was using a fake name to interact with her boss.

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But that isn’t the most disturbing part of this latest development. The fact that the President of the United States was corresponding with Clinton in such a reckless way has several disturbing ramifications.National Review’s Andrew McCarthy explains:

…when it emerged that the White House was refusing to disclose at least 22 communications Obama had exchanged with then-secretary Clinton over the latter’s private e-mail account, we knew that Obama had knowingly engaged in the same misconduct that was the focus of the Clinton probe: the reckless mishandling of classified information.
Indeed, imagine what would have happened had Clinton been indicted. The White House would have attempted to maintain the secrecy of the Obama-Clinton e-mails (under Obama’s invocation of a bogus “presidential communications” privilege), but Clinton’s defense lawyers would have demanded the disclosure of the e-mails in order to show that Obama had engaged in the same misconduct, yet only she, not he, was being prosecuted. And as most experienced criminal-law lawyers understand (especially if they’ve read a little Supreme Court case known as United States v. Nixon), it is an argument that Clinton’s lawyers would have won.
 

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The constant standing order in the White House, under every single president, has always been that all docs in the White House are declassified for everyone in the White House who needs to look at them.
Whether you want to say the docs are declassified or that the people are all granted ultimate security clearance, makes no difference at all.

Bullshit.
 

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"The government conducted the search in response to what it believes to be a violation of federal laws: 18 USC 793 — gathering, transmitting or losing defense information; 18 USC 2071 — concealment, removal or mutilation; and 18 USC 1519 — destruction, alteration or falsification of records in federal investigations."

18 USC 793 — gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

Hillary gathered classified documents, to include TS/SCI information, documents she did not have proper clearance to have in her possession, and had this material in her home.
(- Which the FBI never raided)

Former FBI Director comey testified under oath, asking questions from then Senator Trey Gowdy, stated Hillary Clinton did illegally send and receive classified information, means.some via UNCLASS


18 USC 1519 — destruction, alteration or falsification of records

DESTRUCTION:

Hillary Clinton illegally destroyed multiple classified devices with hammers.

FALSIFICATION / PERJURY:
According to former FBI Director Comey under oath, lied to Congress by claiming she only used 1 (one) classified device.

DESTRUCTION:

She also attempted to wipe her classified hard drive using 'Bleach Bit' (software % program)

FALSIFICATION / ALTERATION:

Hillary is on record through testimony as having ordered her staff to strip the classified marking off of classified documents and send the classified information through UNCLASS methods when her Classified FAX was not working.

This is illegally altering classified documents and illegally transmitting / sending classified information.
- By her ordering her staff to do so it proves she knew EXACTLY what she was doing, despite Former FBI Director Comey claiming she was too stupid to know she was breaking laws.


UNLIKE HILLARY:

DECLASSIFYING AGENT / DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS
Trump was President at the time and was considered a DECLASSIFYING AGENT, having the legal authority to declassify classified information, which he is on record / testimony as having done with the information he took with him.
- Hillary was a civilian at the time she took classified documents and had no authority to declassify the classified documents she had taken.

(Despite Democrats' / The DOJ's / the FBI's claim this is false, there is documented, recorded evidence that then President Trump gave a lawful Presidential order to the FBI Director Comey to declassify all records and information pertaining to the FBI's criminal CROSSFIRE HURRICANE operation against President Trump and his team, an operation that began before he became President and continued into his Presidency.

Despite receiving to declasdify AND RELEASE all CROSSFIRE HURRICANE files and information, proven criminal then FBI Director Comey DISOBEYED that direct order. Comey refused to declassify and release the information because it could implicate Comey, other FBI leadership, and FBI Agents in having committed crimes during the operation.

Going on 19 months later, FBI Director FBI Wray and the FBI continues to criminally refuse to comply with the order. In addition, Wray and the FBI continue to illegally refuse to comply with multiple FOIA Requests for the release of the information, requests filed shortly after the order to declassify and release the info.

The FBI has undeniably proven it is willing to violate lawful orders and break laws to prevent disclosing its criminal actions.

The FBI has proven to have kept classified what was ordered to be DECLASSIFIED and released.

If the FBI and DOJ refused to comply with a direct lawful Presidential order to declassify documents ... how are Anericans supposed to trust the FBI's & DOJ's claim that the documents in Trump's possession - that were seized - were not declassified by President Trump before he left office, which he had full authority to do? By denying ' claiming Trump did not classify any documents they could essentially be trying to 'frame him'.

It does not make logical sense Trump would order the declassification of CROSSFIRE HURRICANE documents but not any others.)

UNLIKE HILLARY....

President Trump did not order classified markings be stripped from classified documents, did not send and receive classified documents through Unclassified methods...

President Trump did not have an unsecured server on which he kept classified documents, did not let aides who had no proper clearance abd whose family has ties to terrorists download all of the classified information onto a personal laptop - one shared by a pedo-sexter who also did not have classification / authority to have access to this classified info...

President Trump did not attempt to destroy evidence by illegally attempting to wipe his hard river or smash multiple classified devices he said did not exist (like Hillary did)

The claims that what Trump did is somehow worse than what Hillary Clinton did is a near un-equalled, undeniable fabrication of near biblical proportions yet definitely of historic proportions.





She had no classified material. Obama could have thought it classified.
 

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"The government conducted the search in response to what it believes to be a violation of federal laws: 18 USC 793 — gathering, transmitting or losing defense information; 18 USC 2071 — concealment, removal or mutilation; and 18 USC 1519 — destruction, alteration or falsification of records in federal investigations."

18 USC 793 — gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

Hillary gathered classified documents, to include TS/SCI information, documents she did not have proper clearance to have in her possession, and had this material in her home.
(- Which the FBI never raided)

Former FBI Director comey testified under oath, asking questions from then Senator Trey Gowdy, stated Hillary Clinton did illegally send and receive classified information, means.some via UNCLASS


18 USC 1519 — destruction, alteration or falsification of records

DESTRUCTION:

Hillary Clinton illegally destroyed multiple classified devices with hammers.

FALSIFICATION / PERJURY:
According to former FBI Director Comey under oath, lied to Congress by claiming she only used 1 (one) classified device.

DESTRUCTION:

She also attempted to wipe her classified hard drive using 'Bleach Bit' (software % program)

FALSIFICATION / ALTERATION:

Hillary is on record through testimony as having ordered her staff to strip the classified marking off of classified documents and send the classified information through UNCLASS methods when her Classified FAX was not working.

This is illegally altering classified documents and illegally transmitting / sending classified information.
- By her ordering her staff to do so it proves she knew EXACTLY what she was doing, despite Former FBI Director Comey claiming she was too stupid to know she was breaking laws.


UNLIKE HILLARY:

DECLASSIFYING AGENT / DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS
Trump was President at the time and was considered a DECLASSIFYING AGENT, having the legal authority to declassify classified information, which he is on record / testimony as having done with the information he took with him.
- Hillary was a civilian at the time she took classified documents and had no authority to declassify the classified documents she had taken.

(Despite Democrats' / The DOJ's / the FBI's claim this is false, there is documented, recorded evidence that then President Trump gave a lawful Presidential order to the FBI Director Comey to declassify all records and information pertaining to the FBI's criminal CROSSFIRE HURRICANE operation against President Trump and his team, an operation that began before he became President and continued into his Presidency.

Despite receiving to declasdify AND RELEASE all CROSSFIRE HURRICANE files and information, proven criminal then FBI Director Comey DISOBEYED that direct order. Comey refused to declassify and release the information because it could implicate Comey, other FBI leadership, and FBI Agents in having committed crimes during the operation.

Going on 19 months later, FBI Director FBI Wray and the FBI continues to criminally refuse to comply with the order. In addition, Wray and the FBI continue to illegally refuse to comply with multiple FOIA Requests for the release of the information, requests filed shortly after the order to declassify and release the info.

The FBI has undeniably proven it is willing to violate lawful orders and break laws to prevent disclosing its criminal actions.

The FBI has proven to have kept classified what was ordered to be DECLASSIFIED and released.

If the FBI and DOJ refused to comply with a direct lawful Presidential order to declassify documents ... how are Anericans supposed to trust the FBI's & DOJ's claim that the documents in Trump's possession - that were seized - were not declassified by President Trump before he left office, which he had full authority to do? By denying ' claiming Trump did not classify any documents they could essentially be trying to 'frame him'.

It does not make logical sense Trump would order the declassification of CROSSFIRE HURRICANE documents but not any others.)

UNLIKE HILLARY....

President Trump did not order classified markings be stripped from classified documents, did not send and receive classified documents through Unclassified methods...

President Trump did not have an unsecured server on which he kept classified documents, did not let aides who had no proper clearance abd whose family has ties to terrorists download all of the classified information onto a personal laptop - one shared by a pedo-sexter who also did not have classification / authority to have access to this classified info...

President Trump did not attempt to destroy evidence by illegally attempting to wipe his hard river or smash multiple classified devices he said did not exist (like Hillary did)

The claims that what Trump did is somehow worse than what Hillary Clinton did is a near un-equalled, undeniable fabrication of near biblical proportions yet definitely of historic proportions.




We already knew this the second it happened. The FBI is a disgrace and is a politicized wing of The DemNazi Party. They are enemies of Democracy, and their power goes far above and beyond anything our Forefathers ever envisioned. In fact, our Forefathers would have us Rebel against such abuses of power.

Sic Semper Tyranus
 

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I'm not peddling anything, asswipe.

But you are.

One bullshit lie after another.

I hope they pay you well for your soul

You are peddling lie after lie. Hillary Clinton took no classified documents with her after she resigned as Secretary of State. She went to great lengths to ensure she did not by destroying her devices and bleaching the servers. Youi are the one who has made the deal with the devil.
 

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We know for sure that hundreds of emails on those servers DID have classified info.
Ha ha
Thats made up bullshit.
Guess what, the few pieces of her electronic info classified was HER “need to know” while working. That was her responsibility. None was in the form of documents and none were stolen after she left office.

Trump’s a fking civilian. He has no “need to know” dufus. He committed a crime having this shit in his possession after leaving office. You guys need to serve in the military or work for the gov. before you make up this shit.
Educate yourself…even private businesses handling sensitive information operate this way.
 
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Read up on presidents.
They do not have security clearances because they do not need one.
They are above and exempt from all classified doc legislation.

Once they leave office, they no longer have a right to know and have no security clearances. They are not exempt. You are either ignorant or a poor liar.
 

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Wrong.

For the page and paragraph classified markers to be present in the email, it has to be chunks of quoted material.
A "discussion" would not have included these rote markers that classified docs all have, but no one would otherwise normally use.
That is their purpose, to expose people who try to evade by quoting sections.

Anyone can easily turn over any number of emails without classified information.
It says NOTHING about the number of emails WITH classified information.

The reason I do not care about Hillary's emails is not that she did not violate the law deliberately, while Trump did not, but that since the law allows president's total discretion, Obama probably was good with what Hillary did. Which means there was no violation then. Obama could allow Hillary to do whatever she wanted with classified docs.
That is essentially what Comey is also saying.

But getting back to Trump.
All laws clearly say presidents are above, explicitly immune, and the generator of all classified doc regulations, through presidential executive orders.

Espionage and treason are doing harmful things to the US.
Trump's saving copies of classified docs for his library or any other reason, is not at all harmful to the US.
So the law says he can do whatever he wants, pretty much.

So why did you bring up CIPA?
That could become invoked there the Mar-a-lago search ever gets to a trial, but that is very unlikely.
Most likely a deal will be reached because the FBI knows it goofed.
You omit one thing. Hillary was a working gov official with need to know status when holding any classified information. Trump is a fking civilian and it’s a fking crime for him to have these documents in his possession.
 

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Hillary's crimes were far more criminal, but she was protected.

We knew it going in.
She protected The Rapist.
The Democrats would destroy the country before they would ever let her suffer.
 

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Hillary never took any documents. She's hardly computer savvy.. what Trump did was deliberate.

Whenever I see your posts, I think -
Is this person really as stupid as their posts would indicate?
Are they just hopelessly brainwashed?
Or are they part of the crew that is working to spread false information that social media is plagued with?
 

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Hillary can't declassify documents or emails. Trump can declassify anything he wants to. Prove what Trump did was deliberate.
Besides, did Trump personally pack any boxes? This bullshit is all about looking thru Trump's private papers for the J6 committee.


For the J6th Infomercial
also to see what info President Trump has on the FBI and DOJ.
Not a coincidence that the same corrupt FBI crew that ran the hoaxes against him were at his house.
 

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Wrong.
There are page and paragraph notations that are added to all classified docs, and she directly sent docs with those classified notations.
Her excuse she said was they were either classified later, (which can't be right since they then would not have the notations), or they had already been declassified, (which is possible, but unlikely).

Wrong.
It could not possibly have made her job easier, since she would have to first move the docs from the State Dept computers to her email server, before sending them.
It was not a "shortcut", but greatly more convoluted, and intended only to prevent anyone following the trail.

Wrong.
One does not "upgrade" but simply add another server, and that is still irrelevant, since she wiped the CURRENT servers before allowing the FBI to have access.

Wrong.
There are NO laws, federal or otherwise, relating to presidential access to classified docs.
By virtue of being elected and representing the people, presidents are totally above any arbitrary security legislation.
They are the ultimate, with total discretion.
Hillary's goal was to avoid FOIA, but Trump likely was just lazy and slow to sort all the boxes.

Former Presidents have no right to classified documents.

The investigation was never about whether she had classified material on her server. The question was over her use of e-mail and whether classified material was disclosed in those e-mails. Comey found that all but one of the e-mails were initiated by lower level employees in the State Department and only 1 contained top secret information. In addition, Comey found that the c designating classified was contained in the body of the e-mail rather than in the heading. It was very possible to miss the notation.
 

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Whenever I see your posts, I think -
Is this person really as stupid as their posts would indicate?
Are they just hopelessly brainwashed?
Or are they part of the crew that is working to spread false information that social media is plagued with?

Which is it? Are you brainwashed or stupid? Or in other words, you are a typical Trump supporter.
 

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Hillary's crimes were far more criminal, but she was protected.
Of course she was protected from committing a crime. It wasn’t a crime to be a govt employee on a needed to know basis and be in possession of related classified info.
 

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