The Failure of Gun Control Comes Home

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Exactly how does the law make French citizens "unable to provide for their own defense" yet the same law did not make the assailants "unable to provide their own offense"?

Are you really that dense?

Crooks will get the weapons no matter what (as we saw), meanwhile the law abiding citizens will be unarmed and unable to defend themselves.

 

[Pogo]

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Exactly how does the law make French citizens "unable to provide for their own defense" yet the same law did not make the assailants "unable to provide their own offense"?

Are you really that dense?

Crooks will get the weapons no matter what (as we saw), meanwhile the law abiding citizens will be unarmed and unable to defend themselves.

Uh.... I don't appear to be the "dense" one here.

Let's go r e a l s l o w...

1. if you say the law "prevents" French citizens from arming
then
2. How does the same law NOT "prevent" French terrorists from arming?

1. EITHER the law has these magical powers to "prevent" ...
2. OR it does not.

Can't have it both ways. They're mutually exclusive. Pick one.

 

[turtledude]

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Exactly how does the law make French citizens "unable to provide for their own defense" yet the same law did not make the assailants "unable to provide their own offense"?

Are you really that dense?

Crooks will get the weapons no matter what (as we saw), meanwhile the law abiding citizens will be unarmed and unable to defend themselves.

Uh.... I don't appear to be the "dense" one here.

Let's go r e a l s l o w...

1. if you say the law "prevents" French citizens from arming
then
2. How does the same law NOT "prevent" French terrorists from arming?

1. EITHER the law has these magical powers to "prevent" ...
2. OR it does not.

Can't have it both ways. They're mutually exclusive. Pick one.

I guess you cannot figure out that there are two different groups

a) people who obey gun bans

b) people who don't

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Pogo turtledude

Enough with the verbal masturbation.

 

[DriftingSand]

See what I mean?

Thanks for that.

You're welcome. Anything to make the world a more beautiful place.

 

[Flash]

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Uh.... I don't appear to be the "dense" one here.

Let's go r e a l s l o w...

1. if you say the law "prevents" French citizens from arming
then
2. How does the same law NOT "prevent" French terrorists from arming?

1. EITHER the law has these magical powers to "prevent" ...
2. OR it does not.

Can't have it both ways. They're mutually exclusive. Pick one.

You haven't been listening dummy.

The law failed, as it always does in gun control.

1. It failed to prevent the bad guys from getting the guns.

2. The law failed the citizens because it prevented them from having the means to defend themselves.

Do you understand the word "failed" or do I have to spell it out for you?

 

[Pogo]

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Exactly how does the law make French citizens "unable to provide for their own defense" yet the same law did not make the assailants "unable to provide their own offense"?

Are you really that dense?

Crooks will get the weapons no matter what (as we saw), meanwhile the law abiding citizens will be unarmed and unable to defend themselves.

Uh.... I don't appear to be the "dense" one here.

Let's go r e a l s l o w...

1. if you say the law "prevents" French citizens from arming
then
2. How does the same law NOT "prevent" French terrorists from arming?

1. EITHER the law has these magical powers to "prevent" ...
2. OR it does not.

Can't have it both ways. They're mutually exclusive. Pick one.

I guess you cannot figure out that there are two different groups

a) people who obey gun bans

b) people who don't

Exactly -- no law can "prevent" anything, that's the point. Seems to me I've heard about umpteen billion times on these pages all about how gun bans, magazine restrictions, background checks etc. will not prevent criminals and evildoers from getting guns and magazines and getting around background checks -- which is correct.

So why are these wags whining about what French laws are? Especially when they don't even live in France?

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Uh.... I don't appear to be the "dense" one here.

Let's go r e a l s l o w...

1. if you say the law "prevents" French citizens from arming
then
2. How does the same law NOT "prevent" French terrorists from arming?

1. EITHER the law has these magical powers to "prevent" ...
2. OR it does not.

Can't have it both ways. They're mutually exclusive. Pick one.

You haven't been listening dummy.

The law failed, as it always does in gun control.

1. It failed to prevent the bad guys from getting the guns.

2. The law failed the citizens because it prevented them from having the means to defend themselves.

Do you understand the word "failed" or do I have to spell it out for you?

What I understand is that you want it to mean two different things depending on what works for you at the time.

You're still in the same hole here. How does the law "fail" because bad guys get guns, and at the same time "fail" because the citizens don't? They're two different things.

I've spelled this out three, four times, and you really don't follow this at all do ya?

No wonder you're in the hole.

 

[turtledude]

gun hater logic

1) people who don't obey laws against robbery and murder and aren't deterred by the threat of 20-life in prison will be deterred from getting a gun over the threat of a couple years in prison

2) people who have never violated substantive criminal law, need other laws targeting them to stop them from doing the harm with weapons they have never committed while owing guns

 

[Pogo]

gun hater logic

1) people who don't obey laws against robbery and murder and aren't deterred by the threat of 20-life in prison will be deterred from getting a gun over the threat of a couple years in prison

2) people who have never violated substantive criminal law, need other laws targeting them to stop them from doing the harm with weapons they have never committed while owing guns

Absurd.

 

[turtledude]

gun hater logic

1) people who don't obey laws against robbery and murder and aren't deterred by the threat of 20-life in prison will be deterred from getting a gun over the threat of a couple years in prison

2) people who have never violated substantive criminal law, need other laws targeting them to stop them from doing the harm with weapons they have never committed while owing guns

Absurd.

right you are-its absurd to think that people who commit felonies are more likely to be disarmed by gun bans than honest people who conscientiously follow the laws

 

[Pogo]

gun hater logic

1) people who don't obey laws against robbery and murder and aren't deterred by the threat of 20-life in prison will be deterred from getting a gun over the threat of a couple years in prison

2) people who have never violated substantive criminal law, need other laws targeting them to stop them from doing the harm with weapons they have never committed while owing guns

Absurd.

right you are-its absurd to think that people who commit felonies are more likely to be disarmed by gun bans than honest people who conscientiously follow the laws

Correct.

.... and??

 

[Politico]

You gun people never let a tragedy go to waste.

You gun grabbers never let a tragedy go to waste.

Fixed it for ya.

Yes you guys say that a lot then here comes a tragedy in France and you jump all over it. What a joke you guys are.

Watch who you throw those 'you guys' at. And gun laws over here don't have shit to do with there.

 

[Flash]

2) people who have never violated substantive criminal law, need other laws targeting them to stop them from doing the harm with weapons they have never committed while owing guns

Libtards are hypocrites on many issues and gun control law is one of them.

For instance, they hate the idea of having to prove to the authorities that you have the right to vote and adamantly opposes anything having to do with the enforcement of voting requirements like having to show that the person voting actually meets the criteria.

They hate voting law enforcement because it cuts down on the number of illegals that vote for Democrats so they don't like it.

However, when it comes to the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms that want:

1. Extreme restrictions on who can enjoy that right.

2. Extreme restrictions on what kind of arms the citizens can possess.

3. Permission from the government to enjoy the right guaranteed in the Bill of Rights.

4. Citizens to have to prove that they meet government criteria before enjoying the right guaranteed in the Bill of Rights.

When a Libtard tells you that they believe in the Constitution they are usually lying to you. The Constitution does not help them to promote their socialists agenda and they hate it.

 

[Pogo]

2) people who have never violated substantive criminal law, need other laws targeting them to stop them from doing the harm with weapons they have never committed while owing guns

Libtards are hypocrites on many issues and gun control law is one of them.

For instance, they hate the idea of having to prove to the authorities that you have the right to vote and adamantly opposes anything having to do with the enforcement of voting requirements like having to show that the person voting actually meets the criteria.

They hate voting law enforcement because it cuts down on the number of illegals that vote for Democrats so they don't like it.

However, when it comes to the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms that want:

1. Extreme restrictions on who can enjoy that right.

2. Extreme restrictions on what kind of arms the citizens can possess.

3. Permission from the government to enjoy the right guaranteed in the Bill of Rights.

4. Citizens to have to prove that they meet government criteria before enjoying the right guaranteed in the Bill of Rights.

When a Libtard tells you that they believe in the Constitution they are usually lying to you. The Constitution does not help them to promote their socialists agenda and they hate it.

Ad blanket statement hominem strawman much?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

gun hater logic

1) people who don't obey laws against robbery and murder and aren't deterred by the threat of 20-life in prison will be deterred from getting a gun over the threat of a couple years in prison

2) people who have never violated substantive criminal law, need other laws targeting them to stop them from doing the harm with weapons they have never committed while owing guns

Absurd.

right you are-its absurd to think that people who commit felonies are more likely to be disarmed by gun bans than honest people who conscientiously follow the laws

Correct.

.... and??

And that there are those who might violate a law doesn't warrant repealing that law.

 

[Pogo]

I tried to explain to the unwashed here, and it's undoubtedly aiming too low, that the French are not "prevented" from arming themselves by a law on paper, that the reason the average French citizen is not armed is the flip side of the reason so many of ours are ---- not because of what the law says but because of the culture. The French are simply not about blowing things up as a culture. They're about wine and women and song and all that but somehow missed the blessings of gun fetishism and the glorious satisfaction of dead schoolkids and bystanders it bestows.

More's the pity of course, but you don't change that with laws or lack of laws. You change that with cultural attitudes. So their task is to go over to France to make the case and explain why they need to forget the Beaujolais and the baisers and start investing in personal Smith & Wessons. Y'know, drop all that ghey stuff that has to do with enjoying life and get into the wonders of enjoying death and destruction.

Et bonne chance avec tout ça.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I tried to explain to the unwashed here, and it's undoubtedly aiming too low, that the French are not "prevented" from arming themselves by a law on paper, that the reason the average French citizen is not armed is the flip side of the reason so many of ours are ---- not because of what the law says but because of the culture. The French are simply not about blowing things up as a culture. They're about wine and women and song and all that but somehow missed the blessings of gun fetishism and the glorious satisfaction of dead schoolkids and bystanders it bestows.

More's the pity of course, but you don't change that with laws or lack of laws. You change that with cultural attitudes. So their task is to go over to France to make the case and explain why they need to forget the Beaujolais and the baisers and start investing in personal Smith & Wessons. Y'know, drop all that ghey stuff that has to do with enjoying life and get into the wonders of enjoying death and destruction.

Et bonne chance avec tout ça.

Posts here have really demonstrated Americans' ignorance about France. Before this horrendous attack, I had no idea how little the haters really know about the freedoms France enjoys.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Looking at some of the posts above ...

Unlike some here in the US, the French are not terrified of leaving their home without a gun.

 

[The Rabbi]

Looking at some of the posts above ...

Unlike some here in the US, the French are not terrified of leaving their home without a gun.

I'll bet a bunch of them are givign that one second thoughts now. I know they are.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Looking at some of the posts above ...

Unlike some here in the US, the French are not terrified of leaving their home without a gun.

I'll bet a bunch of them are givign that one second thoughts now. I know they are.

You know nothing of the kind.