Your future if they take your guns: the reality of owning a gun in The Netherlands, Europe.

[bigrebnc1775]

Guns will not be taken in this lifetime.

Oh, not all at once. It's done incrementally. An AWB ban here, a magazine size limit there...it all adds up.

And leftists are working for it, there can be no doubt.

This is a lie – no one is going to ‘take’ anyone’s guns.

This is a lie some states have taken illegally firearms via red flag laws
Joe Biden has stated he will take guns if he wins he stated that sitting at a table with Robert Francis

 

[harmonica]

Netherlands murder rate is 5 times lower than the US

What is their diversity rate?

diversity is not an indicator
......Chicago is in the same country as St Louis, Mo--comparable diversity....very pro-gun StL has a much higher murder rate.....NYC and LA same country as StL...NYC a very, very much lower murder rate than StL....LA has a much lower murder rate

How cute... You still under the impression that so diverse a nation as ours can assume parity ,city,to city; when compared to a nation smaller than many of our states..? How cute...

thank you ---yes......so the OP is wrong according to you
ALSO---hahahaha strict gun contolled NYC has a population of 8 MILLION.....very pro-gun StL Mo population 320,000---but NYC murder rate many times less......NYC population also much denser .....Chicago and LA populations many times more than StL, but their murder rates are many times lower

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Netherlands murder rate is 5 times lower than the US

What is their diversity rate?

GODAMN people--take away black murders and the US rate is still many times higher

Actually it's not gun for gun population the U.S. has one of the lowest murder rates with guns.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Netherlands murder rate is 5 times lower than the US
US violent crime rate 23 times MORE than the Netherlands
Netherlands vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

17 million people all basically on the same page compared to 320 million people on over a million different pages.......

 

[harmonica]

Netherlands murder rate is 5 times lower than the US
US violent crime rate 23 times MORE than the Netherlands
Netherlands vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

17 million people all basically on the same page compared to 320 million people on over a million different pages.......

1. you have no facts or stats for your claim
2. the most comparable countries to the US have much lower murder rates
3.again--very pro-gun StL [ which is in the SAME country--same page ] has a much higher murder rate than Chicago, LA, and NYC...please explain that one

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Netherlands murder rate is 5 times lower than the US

What is their diversity rate?

diversity is not an indicator
......Chicago is in the same country as St Louis, Mo--comparable diversity....very pro-gun StL has a much higher murder rate.....NYC and LA same country as StL...NYC a very, very much lower murder rate than StL....LA has a much lower murder rate

How cute... You still under the impression that so diverse a nation as ours can assume parity ,city,to city; when compared to a nation smaller than many of our states..? How cute...

thank you ---yes......so the OP is wrong according to you
ALSO---hahahaha strict gun contolled NYC has a population of 8 MILLION.....very pro-gun StL Mo population 320,000---but NYC murder rate many times less......NYC population also much denser .....Chicago and LA populations many times more than StL, but their murder rates are many times lower

homicide rate 2020
Stl 24
https://www.slmpd.org/images/Homicide_Stats_for_Website.pdf
Chicago 78
Tracking Chicago homicide victims
Since Jan. 19
LA 59
The Homicide Report
New York City 23
But other crimes are up
NYPD Announces Citywide Crime Statistics for January 2020

 

[harmonica]

Netherlands murder rate is 5 times lower than the US

What is their diversity rate?

diversity is not an indicator
......Chicago is in the same country as St Louis, Mo--comparable diversity....very pro-gun StL has a much higher murder rate.....NYC and LA same country as StL...NYC a very, very much lower murder rate than StL....LA has a much lower murder rate

How cute... You still under the impression that so diverse a nation as ours can assume parity ,city,to city; when compared to a nation smaller than many of our states..? How cute...

...NYC with a population 25 times more than very pro-gun StL has a much lower murder rate...also, NYC has many, many more gangs/etc

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Netherlands murder rate is 5 times lower than the US

What is their diversity rate?

diversity is not an indicator
......Chicago is in the same country as St Louis, Mo--comparable diversity....very pro-gun StL has a much higher murder rate.....NYC and LA same country as StL...NYC a very, very much lower murder rate than StL....LA has a much lower murder rate

How cute... You still under the impression that so diverse a nation as ours can assume parity ,city,to city; when compared to a nation smaller than many of our states..? How cute...

...NYC with a population 25 times more than very pro-gun StL has a much lower murder rate...also, NYC has many, many more gangs/etc

inncorrect

 

[harmonica]

Netherlands murder rate is 5 times lower than the US

What is their diversity rate?

diversity is not an indicator
......Chicago is in the same country as St Louis, Mo--comparable diversity....very pro-gun StL has a much higher murder rate.....NYC and LA same country as StL...NYC a very, very much lower murder rate than StL....LA has a much lower murder rate

How cute... You still under the impression that so diverse a nation as ours can assume parity ,city,to city; when compared to a nation smaller than many of our states..? How cute...

thank you ---yes......so the OP is wrong according to you
ALSO---hahahaha strict gun contolled NYC has a population of 8 MILLION.....very pro-gun StL Mo population 320,000---but NYC murder rate many times less......NYC population also much denser .....Chicago and LA populations many times more than StL, but their murder rates are many times lower

homicide rate 2020
Stl 24
https://www.slmpd.org/images/Homicide_Stats_for_Website.pdf
Chicago 78
Tracking Chicago homicide victims
Since Jan. 19
LA 59
The Homicide Report
New York City 23
But other crimes are up
NYPD Announces Citywide Crime Statistics for January 2020

hahahhahahahahah--you fked up big time----from now, all your stats/posts are crap
Chicago--78 murders--NOT the rate
StL 2019 -193..Chi -490
StL population 320,000 ...Chi -2.7 MILLION--murder rate about THREE times lower
St. Louis homicide total hits 193 for 2019

FURTHER proof--StL named in top 10 most dangerous cities--sometimes # 1--Chi, LA, and NYC not even in top 10!!!!!!!!!!BOOOM
this link is from a StL news station!
St. Louis named 'most dangerous' city in new ranking | WalletHub report
The most dangerous cities in America, ranked
Crime in St. Louis - Wikipedia
Chicago's homicide rate decreases for the third straight year - CNN

 

[Harry Dresden]

Netherlands murder rate is 5 times lower than the US
US violent crime rate 23 times MORE than the Netherlands
Netherlands vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

17 million people all basically on the same page compared to 320 million people on over a million different pages.......

1. you have no facts or stats for your claim
2. the most comparable countries to the US have much lower murder rates
3.again--very pro-gun StL [ which is in the SAME country--same page ] has a much higher murder rate than Chicago, LA, and NYC...please explain that one

was i wrong?.....

 

[bigrebnc1775]

What is their diversity rate?

diversity is not an indicator
......Chicago is in the same country as St Louis, Mo--comparable diversity....very pro-gun StL has a much higher murder rate.....NYC and LA same country as StL...NYC a very, very much lower murder rate than StL....LA has a much lower murder rate

How cute... You still under the impression that so diverse a nation as ours can assume parity ,city,to city; when compared to a nation smaller than many of our states..? How cute...

thank you ---yes......so the OP is wrong according to you
ALSO---hahahaha strict gun contolled NYC has a population of 8 MILLION.....very pro-gun StL Mo population 320,000---but NYC murder rate many times less......NYC population also much denser .....Chicago and LA populations many times more than StL, but their murder rates are many times lower

homicide rate 2020
Stl 24
https://www.slmpd.org/images/Homicide_Stats_for_Website.pdf
Chicago 78
Tracking Chicago homicide victims
Since Jan. 19
LA 59
The Homicide Report
New York City 23
But other crimes are up
NYPD Announces Citywide Crime Statistics for January 2020

hahahhahahahahah--you fked up big time----from now, all your stats/posts are crap
Chicago--78 murders--NOT the rate
StL 2019 -194..Chi -490
StL population 320,000 ...Chi -2.7 MILLION--murder rate about THREE times lower
St. Louis homicide total hits 193 for 2019

FURTHER proof--StL named in top 10 most dangerous cities--sometimes # 1--Chi, LA, and NYC not even in top 10!!!!!!!!!!BOOOM
this link is from a StL news station!
St. Louis named 'most dangerous' city in new ranking | WalletHub report
The most dangerous cities in America, ranked
Crime in St. Louis - Wikipedia
Chicago's homicide rate decreases for the third straight year - CNN

I posted the homicides for each city for the year 2020
Do try and keep up

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Guns will not be taken in this lifetime.

Hey buddy one election and look at what was once a pro-gun Virginia
1 election and within 2 months it went to California of the east.
All it takes it democrats winning elections either Federal or statewide.

95% of the state is now 2A sanctuary. Police in those counties will not participate in any ordered infringement. The National Guard cannot be used to enforce domestic law.

That leaves Northam the State Police. I doubt they'd bother.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Netherlands murder rate is 5 times lower than the US
US violent crime rate 23 times MORE than the Netherlands
Netherlands vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

17 million people all basically on the same page compared to 320 million people on over a million different pages.......

1. you have no facts or stats for your claim
2. the most comparable countries to the US have much lower murder rates
3.again--very pro-gun StL [ which is in the SAME country--same page ] has a much higher murder rate than Chicago, LA, and NYC...please explain that one

was i wrong?.....

he was wrong that's for sure.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Netherlands murder rate is 5 times lower than the US

What is their diversity rate?

GODAMN people--take away black murders and the US rate is still many times higher

Doubtful. Show the numbers for homicide. Per capita.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Guns will not be taken in this lifetime.

Hey buddy one election and look at what was once a pro-gun Virginia
1 election and within 2 months it went to California of the east.
All it takes it democrats winning elections either Federal or statewide.

95% of the state is now 2A sanctuary. Police in those counties will not participate in any ordered infringement. The National Guard cannot be used to enforce domestic law.

That leaves Northam the State Police. I doubt they'd bother.

yes 95% of the state of a second amendment sanctuary but those anti-gun laws are still on the books and all it will take is the removal of a few sheriff via elections

 

[JoeB131]

They don't care about gun crime committed by criminals. Never have, never will. You ask gun-control advocates how they plan to disarm criminals, and you get crickets in reply, or vague promises that boil down to "criminals will start obeying the law once THIS one is passed!"

Actually, we've given you specifics, you just don't like hearing them.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

They don't care about gun crime committed by criminals. Never have, never will. You ask gun-control advocates how they plan to disarm criminals, and you get crickets in reply, or vague promises that boil down to "criminals will start obeying the law once THIS one is passed!"

Actually, we've given you specifics, you just don't like hearing them.

those specifics cannot supersede "shall not be infringed" or U..S VS Miller ruling military style weapons are protected by the second amendment.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Guns will not be taken in this lifetime.

Hey buddy one election and look at what was once a pro-gun Virginia
1 election and within 2 months it went to California of the east.
All it takes it democrats winning elections either Federal or statewide.

95% of the state is now 2A sanctuary. Police in those counties will not participate in any ordered infringement. The National Guard cannot be used to enforce domestic law.

That leaves Northam the State Police. I doubt they'd bother.

yes 95% of the state of a second amendment sanctuary but those anti-gun laws are still on the books and all it will take is the removal of a few sheriff via elections

I live in Virginia. Such elections are currently unlikely.

And if such were to happen, gun owners would simply shift gears.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Guns will not be taken in this lifetime.

Hey buddy one election and look at what was once a pro-gun Virginia
1 election and within 2 months it went to California of the east.
All it takes it democrats winning elections either Federal or statewide.

95% of the state is now 2A sanctuary. Police in those counties will not participate in any ordered infringement. The National Guard cannot be used to enforce domestic law.

That leaves Northam the State Police. I doubt they'd bother.

yes 95% of the state of a second amendment sanctuary but those anti-gun laws are still on the books and all it will take is the removal of a few sheriff via elections

I live in Virginia. Such elections are currently unlikely.

And if such were to happen, gun owners would simply shift gears.

nothing wrong with that but things change

 

[mudwhistle]

They're gonna get the guns sooner or later. The government only gains more control. It never relinquishes any. It's disappointing because I love the second amendment as much as anybody, but at the same time I don't think it'll be that huge of a deal when it happens. It's not like armed militia could fight the government anyway. Uncle Sam won a long time ago. Life goes on.

I'm sure glad our forefathers didn't think the way you do.