The Elephant (no pun intended!) in the Democratic Party Room

[IM2]

"co-opting the beliefs of far-right racists" ...

Indeed. Mac is down with right wing fascists. He goes on and on about how cool they are.

I do agree that Democrats have to change what they do. They have to do better in getting the message out. They need to fight Republicans using the same methods, meaning, do not let a day go by that the people are not told what Democrats are doing and contrast it with Republicans. Deval Patrick said it to Democrats 12 years ago, and Democrats did not listen. It's time they got backbones and quit letting the right define things.

Because its a shame that we have people telling me that Democrats did not represent the working class when the democratic president stood in the picket line, whose VP was running and talked about her plans for the middle class every speech, and whose running mate had the lowest net worth of all the candidates. It makes me wonder if people even actually tried listening to Harris.

 

[dblack]

I do agree that Democrats have to change what they do. They have to do better in getting the message out.

What, exactly, is the message?

 

[Mac1958]

"co-opting the beliefs of far-right racists" ...

Indeed. Mac is down with right wing fascists. He goes on and on about how cool they are.

 

[dblack]

IM2 is an idiot.

 

[IM2]

IM2 is an idiot.

Really? You saw a campaign that focused on the working class and you're asking what the Democratic message is and I'm the idiot?

Ha!

You say both sides are equally bad when one side is overtly racist and sexist and the other side calls it out and people like you penalize and disparage them claiming that they need to try to compromise with bigotry, and you call me an idiot?

If you want to see an idiot, look in the mirror.

 

[dblack]

Really?

Yes. Really.

You saw a campaign that focused on the working class and you're asking what the Democratic message is and I'm the idiot?

Yes. What is the message? If you don't even know, how can you say that the problem is "getting the message out"?

You say both sides are equally bad when one side is overtly racist and sexist and the other side calls it out and people like you penalize and disparage them claiming that they need to try to compromise with bigotry, and you call me an idiot?

I've never said you have to compromise with bigotry. Neither has Mac. That's a strawman that you cling to so you don't have to think about your party's mistakes.

 

[toobfreak]

As the Democratic Party looks around and finds itself in the political abyss,

They have been in an abyss for 35 years.

I'm starting to see some folks ask about who is going to lead them out of that abyss.

Donald Trump.

Personally, I think that if the person or people behind whom they rally keeps them on the same path that got them here, they're going to stay here. That means the new leader(s) of the party have to focus squarely on the Middle Class (if it isn't too late), and run directly away from the Identity Politics & Political Correctness that largely put them in this mess.

It'll never happen. That isn't who the democrats are. If it does happen, it'll be nothing but cheap talk to get votes before an election then right back to business as usual.

 

[toobfreak]

I support your right to believe whatever you want.

Must be why you spend 99.9% of your time here MOCKING people for their opinions.

 

[dblack]

Must be why you spend 99.9% of your time here MOCKING people for their opinions.

You have the right to your opinions. We have the right to mock you for your opinions. That's how freedom works. Deal with it.

 

[toobfreak]

You know their rule: You can only be (a) a blind Trumpster or (b) an evil commie.

What is YOUR rule? When is a Trump supporter ever not a "blind Trumpster" to you?

 

[toobfreak]

You have the right to your opinions. We have the right to mock you for your opinions. That's how freedom works. Deal with it.

Here's an opinion. 24 days until Trump is back as president and he will do what he will do. Deal with THAT. Then STFU.

 

[Mac1958]

Must be why you spend 99.9% of your time here MOCKING people for their opinions.

What is YOUR rule? When is a Trump supporter ever not a "blind Trumpster" to you?

I think my posts are a little too important to you.

You can either read them and get over it, not read them, or put me on ignore.

I don't care.

 

[toobfreak]

It's too late for a generation.

At least.

 

[imawhosure]

Really? You saw a campaign that focused on the working class and you're asking what the Democratic message is and I'm the idiot?

Ha!

You say both sides are equally bad when one side is overtly racist and sexist and the other side calls it out and people like you penalize and disparage them claiming that they need to try to compromise with bigotry, and you call me an idiot?

If you want to see an idiot, look in the mirror.

They have been in an abyss for 35 years.


Donald Trump.


It'll never happen. That isn't who the democrats are. If it does happen, it'll be nothing but cheap talk to get votes before an election then right back to business as usual.

How to explain the Democrats recent demise? All you have to do is listen to what Bill Jefferson Clinton was saying while President, and what Joe Biden and Mamala were saying. It was almost polar opposite.

What is simple to see is-------------> MAGAs did NOT put DJT back in the Whitehouse! The people who put Trump back in, were middle of the road people who held their nose and voted for him, because they seen what the Democrats were doing, seen them lying about a corpse for President, seen them allowing God knows who to run the country...a bunch of unelected officials because their corpse and Chief was incapable of doing it, then seen a cackling clown put in his place who insisted that she would not change ONE DAMN THING Biden had done.

What this shows is----------->how STRONG the Democratic Party actually is, because by all political standards, Mamala should not have won 2 or 3 states; not because she was Mamala, but because of what the Democrats pulled off right in front of America's face, and when called on it, flipped everyone the bird!

 

[toobfreak]

I noticed that. A beautiful girl at 18, and a young butch at 22.

Progressivism is a mental disease.

 

[toobfreak]

That only works with people who watch NFL games

Notice how Mac1958 only sees the Trump ads during commercial breaks. He never notices the leftwing crap spewed all over the end zones on the field and on the backs of all their football helmets. Macadoogle suffers from selective blindness.

 

[toobfreak]

I think my posts are a little too important to you.

No, you have it all wrong again.
They are too important to YOU.
They are merely just too stupid to me.

 

[dblack]

Here's an opinion. 24 days until Trump is back as president and he will do what he will do. Deal with THAT. Then STFU.

I will. I'll mock him too. But I won't shut up. Sorry, not sorry.

 

[toobfreak]

I will. I'll mock him too. But I won't shut up. Sorry, not sorry.

So you have decided to mock a guy before you even see what he does. How revealing.

Thanks for at least ADMITTING your braindead nature.

 

[dblack]

So you have decided to mock a guy before you even see what he does. How revealing.

Thanks for at least ADMITTING your braindead nature.

Unfortunately, for you, we've already seen what he does.