The Did Obama Commit Treason Thread and Poll

Did Obama Commit Treason?

  • No

    Votes: 27 32.1%
  • Yes

    Votes: 42 50.0%
  • No, he wasn't even born in America, so he can't be charged

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, you MAGAs are so desperate to deflect from the Trump Epstein Love Fest.

    Votes: 14 16.7%
  • No, Trump Presidential Immunity Rule Applies

    Votes: 6 7.1%
  • No, what's wrong with using US Intel Agencies as an extension of a political party anyway?

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • Yes, starting with hiding his Kenyan birth. Oh, that makes Dubya a co-conspirator as well

    Votes: 5 6.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 3.6%
  • I think I was more useful to humanity during my 2 week timeout from here

    Votes: 6 7.1%

  • Total voters
    84
Did you read the memo?
Nope, did you? These three worked closes with the Adam Shifty committee so likely related to why he needed a pardon for crimes against the United States, but I didn’t read the memo

I have heard her give press conference and interviews

Here is was explaining cause in one case
 
Nope, did you? These three worked closes with the Adam Shifty committee so likely related to why he needed a pardon for crimes against the United States, but I didn’t read the memo

I have heard her give press conference and interviews

Here is was explaining cause in one case
I did. Gives no cause for their firing.

Thanks for admitting you lied about it.
 
Weird, how we didn't have that headline when Obama did it: https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2009/05/obama-to-replace-us-attorneys-018390

There is nothing "norm-shattering" about the President putting his attorenys in place of his Justice Department

Every incoming president replaces the previous president's U.S. attorneys, and Trump has done this every time. When a Democratic president takes office after Trump, they'll likely do the same, it’s a cycle. It makes no sense for a new president to keep political appointees like Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, and Pete Hegseth in their roles. These are political appointees, much like U.S. attorneys are. However, the individual Trump targeted was not a political appointee and was not a US attorney. You can't arbitrarily fire someone without just cause, it’s illegal under federal law. Trump breaking the law shouldn't come as a surprise;, he is, after all, a convicted felon.
 
Stop being an ass.
You can verify the reports from whatever source you want. I supplied you with at least two names that Trump fired.

So cry a river someplace else.

It's called being intentionally obtuse. All the cultists do it. It's a coping mechanism when they can't easily explain away all the laws their cult leader is breaking, or how he's ruining our economy.
 
hahha no, that was not why.

Garcia was brought back because he was extradited because of new felony indictments related to his gang activity, including human tarifficking

Then why did they let him go in the first place when they had such a slam dunk case against him for human trafficking? Where in his phony indictment does it say it's for gang activity and human trafficking?
 
No, he didn't. Even if he interfered in the election, it wouldn't be considered treason in only a complete retard would think.

And ironically, even if he committed a crime, it's going to be impossible to actually prosecute him since half the things he is being accused of would involve core presidential duties and therefore he has absolute immunity under the supreme Court's rulings, or would deal with things on the outskirts of presidential duties, which means he has presumptive immunity and would need to have a crime proven just to get him indicted. Then you add in the fact that the supreme Court also ruled that any type of official or personal communications from him or his staff are not asmissible as evidence and it's going to be nearly impossible to convict him even if he did commit a crime
And something tells me that no Trump supporters actually thought of that when they were cheering on President retard for getting the immunity ruling through the supreme Court I guarantee that they all and Trump as well. Thought it would only apply to him. This is what happens when you have retards in power
 
Then why did they let him go in the first place when they had such a slam dunk case against him for human trafficking? Where in his phony indictment does it say it's for gang activity and human trafficking?
They had to get an indictment. the indictment is real....take a look at it

 
Every incoming president replaces the previous president's U.S. attorneys, and Trump has done this every time. When a Democratic president takes office after Trump, they'll likely do the same, it’s a cycle. It makes no sense for a new president to keep political appointees like Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, and Pete Hegseth in their roles. These are political appointees, much like U.S. attorneys are. However, the individual Trump targeted was not a political appointee and was not a US attorney. You can't arbitrarily fire someone without just cause, it’s illegal under federal law. Trump breaking the law shouldn't come as a surprise;, he is, after all, a convicted felon.
Thanks, so it's not abnormal

Why do the dembots claim it's abnormal when Trump does it?
 
There were protesters in the Capitol building with loaded firearms? And they were convicted for that? Who would that be, Postman?

Christopher Alberts was convicted of carrying a loaded 9-millimeter pistol on the Capitol grounds and assaulting law enforcement officers, receiving a sentence of seven years in prison.

Mark Mazza was sentenced to five years in prison after pleading guilty to charges including assaulting officers with a dangerous weapon and carrying a pistol without a license.

Guy Reffitt, a member of the Three Percenters militia group, was found guilty of five felony charges, including carrying a handgun on Capitol grounds.

Lonnie Coffman was sentenced to 46 months in prison after pleading guilty to federal and local firearms offenses after a large quantity of weapons were found in his pickup truck near the Capitol, according to the Department of Justice (.gov).
 
There were protesters in the Capitol building with loaded firearms? And they were convicted for that? Who would that be, Postman?

WASHINGTON – A Texas man was found guilty today of two felony offenses, including carrying a firearm onto Capitol grounds, and two misdemeanor offenses, during the Jan. 6, 2021, breach of the U.S. Capit
 
Christopher Alberts was convicted of carrying a loaded 9-millimeter pistol on the Capitol grounds and assaulting law enforcement officers, receiving a sentence of seven years in prison.

Mark Mazza was sentenced to five years in prison after pleading guilty to charges including assaulting officers with a dangerous weapon and carrying a pistol without a license.

Guy Reffitt, a member of the Three Percenters militia group, was found guilty of five felony charges, including carrying a handgun on Capitol grounds.

Lonnie Coffman was sentenced to 46 months in prison after pleading guilty to federal and local firearms offenses after a large quantity of weapons were found in his pickup truck near the Capitol, according to the Department of Justice (.gov).
I asked you to name protesters who used firearms inside of the Capitol building and you gave me four names, Postman. The first three did have firearms but none of them ever took them out of their holsters and never made it inside of the Capitol building itself. The last was one of those that left their weapons in their vehicle before they went to the protest. Why you included him I don't know.

So you've got an "armed insurrection" in which A) none of the "armed" people ever took their weapons out of their holsters and B) never made it inside the Capitol building! Kind of a piss poor "armed insurrection"? Don't you think?
 

WASHINGTON – A Texas man was found guilty today of two felony offenses, including carrying a firearm onto Capitol grounds, and two misdemeanor offenses, during the Jan. 6, 2021, breach of the U.S. Capit
Mr. Mares is another protester that had a gun beneath his shirt but he also never took it out nor did he ever enter the Capitol building. Is this the best you've got, Postman?
 
Mr. Mares is another protester that had a gun beneath his shirt but he also never took it out nor did he ever enter the Capitol building. Is this the best you've got, Postman?
He arrived at the capitol armed with a loaded gun.

That makes it an ARMED insurrection at the capitol,
 
I asked you to name protesters who used firearms inside of the Capitol building and you gave me four names, Postman. The first three did have firearms but none of them ever took them out of their holsters and never made it inside of the Capitol building itself. The last was one of those that left their weapons in their vehicle before they went to the protest. Why you included him I don't know.

So you've got an "armed insurrection" in which A) none of the "armed" people ever took their weapons out of their holsters and B) never made it inside the Capitol building! Kind of a piss poor "armed insurrection"? Don't you think?
No different than the guy who was charged with attempted assassination of Trump on his golf course.


Routh did not have a clear line of sight on Trump and did not fire his gun.

Routh was charged on September 24 with attempting to assassinate a presidential candidate,
 
No different than the guy who was charged with attempted assassination of Trump on his golf course.


Routh did not have a clear line of sight on Trump and did not fire his gun.

Routh was charged on September 24 with attempting to assassinate a presidential candidate,
Terrible analogy there, Postman. Routh was spotted because he was aiming a rifle at Secret Service agents from the bushes. They actually fired at him and he made a run for it.

The man you cited from the Capitol building was spotted on video after the riot getting into his vehicle and they could make out that he had a bulge under his shirt and rifles inside of the vehicle. He never aimed a weapon at anyone. He never took his weapon out of his shirt.
 
He arrived at the capitol armed with a loaded gun.

That makes it an ARMED insurrection at the capitol,
Like I said...when nobody takes a gun out of their holster...it's a pretty piss poor "armed insurrection"! Be honest...the only reason it was ever called an armed insurrection is that Democrats wanted to make an example of those right wing protesters. The only person that pulled a gun and used it that day was Lt. Michael Byrd of the Capitol Police when he assassinated Ashli Babbitt without warning!
 
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I'm curious, Postman. Do you really want to invest in the defense of Garcia knowing what we now know about him? He's a member of Tren de Aragua. He made his living transporting illegals. He beat his wife. He admitted in court that he WAS a member of Tren de Aragua. My question isn't why was Garcia arrested and deported. My question is why wasn't he arrested and deported YEARS ago?

Probably because nothing you've said so far is actually real, that's why. All you're doing is lapping up Trump's truckload of lies like a good dog.
 
Thanks, so it's not abnormal

Why do the dembots claim it's abnormal when Trump does it?

It is and I just got done explaining why. Are you so far gone in your sycophancy over Trump you've forgotten how to read?
 
Probably because nothing you've said so far is actually real, that's why. All you're doing is lapping up Trump's truckload of lies like a good dog.
So Garcia wasn't a gang member? He wasn't trafficking illegals? He didn't beat his wife? Let me guess...for YOU...he's just a "Maryland Man"? Loving husband? Devoted father? Sorry, Krichton but YOU'RE the guy who bought into the bullshit! That's a narrative that died on the vine as soon as anyone really looked at who Garcia really was and not the Media's portrayal of who they wanted him to be!
 
So Garcia wasn't a gang member? He wasn't trafficking illegals? He didn't beat his wife? Let me guess...for YOU...he's just a "Maryland Man"? Loving husband? Devoted father? Sorry, Krichton but YOU'RE the guy who bought into the bullshit! That's a narrative that died on the vine as soon as anyone really looked at who Garcia really was and not the Media's portrayal of who they wanted him to be!
MAGA lies.
 
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