The Did Obama Commit Treason Thread and Poll

[Care4all]

Very true. As would Hillary Clinton and Jill Stein.

"WashingtonCNN —11/28/2016
Hillary Clinton’s campaign said Saturday it will take part in efforts to push for recounts in several key states, joining with Green Party candidate Jill Stein, who has raised millions of dollars to have votes counted again in Wisconsin. . ."

https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/26/politics/clinton-campaign-recount/

And Hillary was quite certain the 2016 election was stolen from her and she, Pelosi and others spent four years calling Trump 45 an 'illegitimate President."

Hillary Clinton Labels Trump an ‘Illegitimate President’

Hillary Clinton said that Donald Trump is an "illegitimate president" during a Wednesday appearance on ABC's "The View."The former presidential candidate made the comment after host Joy Behar asked what she made of Trump leading "lock her up!" chants at campaign rallies."I do think that [Trump]...

www.yahoo.com

Of course Youtube and Google et al, all controlled by 'woke' Democrats, have removed or deeply buried all the video of those two saying that as well as all the Democrats stating the 2016 election was hacked.

YouTube restricts video of Dems, critics saying 2016 election was hacked — then backtracks

The TK News video — put together to highlight the partisan double standard over election denialism – had been tagged to run with limited or no ads, depriving the creators of vital revenue, TK’s Mat…

nypost.com

But the few honorable search engines out there can still find them

Was your video the first time Hillary said the 2016 election was stolen from her? That video of her saying that was 3 YEARS after the election...

I think that is quite pertinent, and completely different from what Trump did on saying his election was stolen from him in 2020... even before election day....

Can you not differentiate the two?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

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Well there's a glimpse into Low IQ insanity.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No.

In the United States "treason" has a very narrow definition.

Even if Obama et al were guilty of such accusations those actions do not meet the legal test to be classified as "treason".

Conspiracy?

Maybe.

Sedition?

Perhaps.

Treason?

No.

Not even close.

None of the above.

But I wonder whatpunishment Gabbard should receive for passing along Russian intelligence speculation to the Amerocan people and trying to pass it off as American intelligence.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Was your video the first time Hillary said the 2016 election was stolen from her? That video of her saying that was 3 YEARS after the election...

I think that is quite pertinent, and completely different from what Trump did on saying his election was stolen from him in 2020... even before election day....

Can you not differentiate the two?

Seriously, Care? You think the first time Hillary claimed the 2016 election was stolen didn't happen until 3 YEARS after the election? Do you live WAY out in the woods up there in Maine? You know...where you don't get news for months at a time?

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

Show your evidence from a credible verifiable source or you're making that up as malicious propaganda.

Incel, Yes You, click it

 

[Foxfyre]

Incel, Yes You, click it

All your link does is go to a lot of Google generated links. That is NOT a credible verifiable source.

 

[Man With A Plan]

**** off MAGA

Great come back...lol...well, not really...rather pathetic actually but hey, Cherry...I know it's a hard time to be a far left liberal so I'll cut you some slack.

 

[Foxfyre]

Was your video the first time Hillary said the 2016 election was stolen from her? That video of her saying that was 3 YEARS after the election...

I think that is quite pertinent, and completely different from what Trump did on saying his election was stolen from him in 2020... even before election day....

Can you not differentiate the two?

You must have missed this link I posted earlier.

Hillary Clinton Demands Recount With Jill Stein: Clinton Still Not Over Election Loss

Hillary Clinton is teaming up with Jill Stein, demanding a recount of votes, nearly one month after election day. Clinton is reportedly still not over her loss and she is raising suspicion that something shady happened on November 8. Donald Trump refused to say that he’d respect the results of...

www.yahoo.com

Of course all the Russia stuff then came from the now debunked intelligence reports that faked all that. And if Obama is implicated in that, it won't look good for him. Or Hillary.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You think the first time Hillary claimed the 2016 election was stolen didn't happen until 3 YEARS after the election?

Who gives a shit? This might be the dumbest MAGA talking point. Hillary never lied about vote counts. Hillary never led a criminal conspiracy to steal the election.

 

[Care4all]

Simple question, Anton. Did Barack Obama ask Brennan and Clapper to ignore their own analysts who said that they had found no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian Government and provide reports that said that they HAD found evidence of collusion?

That's not what Clapped and Brennan said silly. You are buying in to a complete LIE. Why oh why are y'all so easily fooled, time and time and time again?

Flapper a Brennan said the Russians did not use cyber means to hack in to the registration and voting machines.

NOWHERE do Brennan and Clapper report that the RUSSIANS did NOT interfere in our election to Obama or anyone! In fact the report talks about the Russians hacking and stealing the DNC emails and releasing them to the public, to hurt Hillary's candidacy, and Russian internet trolls sowing discord among Bernie fans/Hillary fans...etc.

The report NEVER SAID the Russians did not uses full force to interfere with our election, just the opposite!!! And there was every reason for our Intel agencies to find out exactly all that the Russians did and how they did it, to learn how to protect us better in future elections.

 

[AntonToo]

Simple question, Anton. Did Barack Obama ask Brennan and Clapper to ignore their own analysts who said that they had found no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian Government.

Simple answer is NO

Do you know how I know that? I have some basic reading skills - niether Brennan, nor Clapper ever published findings that Trump campaign was colluding with Russians.

What they reported was that Russians were conducting illicit electioneering for the benefit of Trump's campaign. Which is a fact that even Trump himself admitted:

 

[Care4all]

You must have missed this link I posted earlier.

Hillary Clinton Demands Recount With Jill Stein: Clinton Still Not Over Election Loss

Hillary Clinton is teaming up with Jill Stein, demanding a recount of votes, nearly one month after election day. Clinton is reportedly still not over her loss and she is raising suspicion that something shady happened on November 8. Donald Trump refused to say that he’d respect the results of...

www.yahoo.com

No I didn't miss it!
That was the Green Party initiation of a recount or recounts. Those are perfectly legal. They were within the proper time to have them.... And Hillary joining the green party's efforts is not scandalous....or screaming day in and day out that the election was stolen as the Trumpster did.

Trump had a gazillion recounts all over the place in 2020, even in areas where the vote wasn't even close.... And recounts/audits on top of recounts for longer than 6 months past the election certification. For 24/7 since before election day he was telling his followers the election was rigged and stolen.

 

[Foxfyre]

No I didn't miss it!
That was the Green Party initiation of a recount or recounts. Those are perfectly legal. They were within the proper time to have them.... And Hillary joining the green party's efforts is not scandalous....or screaming day in and day out that the election was stolen as the Trumpster did.

Trump had a gazillion recounts all over the place in 2020, even in areas where the vote wasn't even close.... And recounts/audits on top of recounts for longer than 6 months past the election certification. For 24/7 since before election day he was telling his followers the election was rigged and stolen.

Wow. For missing the point entirely, your post wins the prize today.

New flash: there is NOTHING whatsoever illegal or improper saying you believe you won an election. Most especially when you honestly believe you did win that election. When millions of Americans believe you did win that election. The point is if Hillary and Jill are within their rights to request a recount when they believe they won, then so is Trump. Just because you hate him is no reason he has to play by different rules than they did.

I didn't know there was a 'proper' time to express an opinion like that. Is it more proper at the time it is going on when something might be done about it? Or years later as propaganda to influence the outcome of the next election?

 

[Foxfyre]

That's not what Clapped and Brennan said silly. You are buying in to a complete LIE. Why oh why are y'all so easily fooled, time and time and time again?

Flapper a Brennan said the Russians did not use cyber means to hack in to the registration and voting machines.

NOWHERE do Brennan and Clapper report that the RUSSIANS did NOT interfere in our election to Obama or anyone! In fact the report talks about the Russians hacking and stealing the DNC emails and releasing them to the public, to hurt Hillary's candidacy, and Russian internet trolls sowing discord among Bernie fans/Hillary fans...etc.

The report NEVER SAID the Russians did not uses full force to interfere with our election, just the opposite!!! And there was every reason for our Intel agencies to find out exactly all that the Russians did and how they did it, to learn how to protect us better in future elections.

The entire IC document is here. Can you read it and still conclude that they did not manipulate the information to pretend Russian interference was to help Trump when that was not the case? And that this did not happen on Obama's watch?

Exclusive | Obama’s Trump-Russia collusion report was corrupt from start: CIA review

A bombshell new CIA review of the Obama administration’s spy agencies assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election to help Donald Trump was deliberately corrupted by then-CIA…

nypost.com

 

[Man With A Plan]

Who gives a shit? This might be the dumbest MAGA talking point. Hillary never lied about vote counts. Hillary never led a criminal conspiracy to steal the election.

Sorry Fort but THAT post is a runaway winner of the dumbest talking point contest! Hillary never led a criminal conspiracy to steal an election? Well gee whiz...let's take a look at that...shall we?

For starters, Hillary paid to have her political opponent smeared by a foreign operative and tried to hide that smear from the public by listing the payment as "legal fees"! Something she subsequently was fined for.
Then there was the whole Benghazi debacle. You remember that, right Fort? How Hillary got caught running the State Department through two private servers she hid in her home to avoid Congressional oversight? How she lied to Congressional investigators that she'd turned over everything to do with Benghazi, then deleted 30,000 emails and had aides smash her phones with hammers? How her hubby, Slick Willie had a secret meeting with Loretta Lynch on the tarmac out in Arizona, after which the DOJ declined to prosecute Hillary? The whole "Russia...Russia...Russia!" smear designed to take attention off of Hillary's criminal behavior by having Brennan and Clapper lie about Trump colluding with Russia?

Claiming that Hillary was some paragon of political virtue is laughable. She's probably the dirtiest politician to grace Washington in many decades!

 

[Man With A Plan]

MAGA is pathetic
you as well MAGA

I hate to point out the obvious, Cherry but MAGA is kicking ass right now and the left is getting steamrolled! What's "pathetic" is watching Democrats try to figure out why nobody likes them any more!

 

[Kondor3]

**** off MAGA

No... your counterpart nailed it... you posted no credible, verifiable source, then resorted to name-calling when uncovered.

 

[krichton]

Well, he can certainly come clean and that will protect him from treason charges

He doesn't need to because nothing will come of this because it's all bullshit. This is either Tulsi simply attempting to get into the good graces of Dumpf again, or an orchestrated distraction to deflect heat off of Dumpf over the Epstein files.

 

[AntonToo]

This is either Tulsi simply attempting to get into the good graces of Dumpf again, or an orchestrated distraction to deflect heat off of Dumpf over the Epstein files.

Why not both?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Why not both?

Gee, Anton...what do you think about the new trade deal Trump just struck with the EU?

He just keeps on winning...and winning...and winning!