The Dictionary Definition of "Conservative"

[Decus]

If you have always believed that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by the same standards, that would have gotten you labelled a radical 60 years ago, a liberal 30 years ago and a racist today.

Thomas Sowell

 

[emptystep]

There are sensible conservatives and liberals. Then there are fringe of each. I believe in guaging this board there are more second of the first and first of the second. Given Churchhill's wisdom it would seem we have a young audience on this board.

 

[edthecynic]

There are sensible conservatives and liberals. Then there are fringe of each. I believe in guaging this board there are more second of the first and first of the second. Given Churchhill's wisdom it would seem we have a young audience on this board.

Except Churchill never made that quote. Like just about everything from a Right-wing source, it is completely phony!

"Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid."
- Kin Hubbard

 

[emptystep]

There are sensible conservatives and liberals. Then there are fringe of each. I believe in guaging this board there are more second of the first and first of the second. Given Churchhill's wisdom it would seem we have a young audience on this board.

Except Churchill never made that quote. Like just about everything from a Right-wing source, it is completely phony!

"Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid."
- Kin Hubbard

Well some money with a typewriter wrote it. Serves my purpose all the same.

 

[FJO]

There are sensible conservatives and liberals. Then there are fringe of each. I believe in guaging this board there are more second of the first and first of the second. Given Churchhill's wisdom it would seem we have a young audience on this board.

Except Churchill never made that quote. Like just about everything from a Right-wing source, it is completely phony!

"Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid."
- Kin Hubbard

Here are some notable quotes by Sir Winston Churchill:

Winston Churchill - Quotes, Winston Churchill Quotes

You will notice that although not verbatim, he DID opined that young people are idealistic liberals, as they grow older they get their brains together and become conservatives.

Democrats and Obama worshippers could benefit from the wisdom from the rest of the quotes By Churchill who was far, far, far smarter than Obama could ever hope to be.

 

[emptystep]

There are sensible conservatives and liberals. Then there are fringe of each. I believe in guaging this board there are more second of the first and first of the second. Given Churchhill's wisdom it would seem we have a young audience on this board.

Except Churchill never made that quote. Like just about everything from a Right-wing source, it is completely phony!

"Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid."
- Kin Hubbard

Well some money with a typewriter wrote it. Serves my purpose all the same.

*monkey

Perhaps I should get a monkey to type for me.

 

[FJO]

Except Churchill never made that quote. Like just about everything from a Right-wing source, it is completely phony!

"Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid."
- Kin Hubbard

Well some money with a typewriter wrote it. Serves my purpose all the same.

*monkey

Perhaps I should get a monkey to type for me.

Better, still: THINK for you.

 

[edthecynic]

There are sensible conservatives and liberals. Then there are fringe of each. I believe in guaging this board there are more second of the first and first of the second. Given Churchhill's wisdom it would seem we have a young audience on this board.

Except Churchill never made that quote. Like just about everything from a Right-wing source, it is completely phony!

"Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid."
- Kin Hubbard

Here are some notable quotes by Sir Winston Churchill:

Winston Churchill - Quotes, Winston Churchill Quotes

You will notice that although not verbatim, he DID opined that young people are idealistic liberals, as they grow older they get their brains together and become conservatives.

Democrats and Obama worshippers could benefit from the wisdom from the rest of the quotes By Churchill who was far, far, far smarter than Obama could ever hope to be.

Thank you for proving that the CON$ervoFascist echo chamber cannot be trusted for any quote.
Again Churchill said no such thing or anything close to it! It is a plagiarized CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood bastardization of what was said by others and attributed to Churchill to give it some credibility. The phrase originated with Francois Guisot (1787-1874): "Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head." It was revived by French Premier Georges Clemenceau (1841-1929): "Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head."

 

[DiamondDave]

Yet EdTheAss backs up people who use unreliable, liar source sites such as Huffo Puffo and Stink progress... That, is the dictionary definition of a HYPOCRITE

 

[FJO]

Except Churchill never made that quote. Like just about everything from a Right-wing source, it is completely phony!

"Some fellows get credit for being conservative when they are only stupid."
- Kin Hubbard

Here are some notable quotes by Sir Winston Churchill:

Winston Churchill - Quotes, Winston Churchill Quotes

You will notice that although not verbatim, he DID opined that young people are idealistic liberals, as they grow older they get their brains together and become conservatives.

Democrats and Obama worshippers could benefit from the wisdom from the rest of the quotes By Churchill who was far, far, far smarter than Obama could ever hope to be.

Thank you for proving that the CON$ervoFascist echo chamber cannot be trusted for any quote.
Again Churchill said no such thing or anything close to it! It is a plagiarized bastardization of what was said by others and attributed to Churchill to give it some credibility. The phrase originated with Francois Guisot (1787-1874): "Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head." It was revived by French Premier Georges Clemenceau (1841-1929): "Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head."

Re-iterating an idea is confirming that it IS a good idea. You presented no link or evidence to support your claim, and in fact, you implied that Churchill was a plagiarist. And that Georges Clemenceau is just as guilty as a plagiarist as Churchill for rephrasing what Guisot allegedly expressed originally.

I can not ask you to prove that Churchill never said what he said, because only in the make-believe world of liberals can a negative be proven.

BTW, nothing is original, funny or witty with CON$ervoFascist.

 

[edthecynic]

Yet EdTheAss backs up people who use unreliable, liar source sites such as Huffo Puffo and Stink progress... That, is the dictionary definition of a HYPOCRITE

The Misinformation Voter of the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood bitterly clings to their lies until they are pried from their cold dead hands.

From the Churchill Organization's own website!!!!!

Quotes Falsely Attributed

These quotes make for good story-telling but popular myth has falsely attributed them to Churchill.

"Conservative by the time you're 35"

"If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain." There is no record of anyone hearing Churchill say this. Paul Addison of Edinburgh University makes this comment: "Surely Churchill can't have used the words attributed to him. He'd been a Conservative at 15 and a Liberal at 35! And would he have talked so disrespectfully of Clemmie, who is generally thought to have been a lifelong Liberal?"

 

[zeke]

zeke opined:

"Little more doing and a lot less wanting would serve you all well. And maybe the rest of us would listen a little more closely to what you want."

Seems like zeke is giving a valuable advise to welfare bums, single oversexed baby-factory skanks, unionized free-loaders who think they deserve ten bucks of pay for a dime's worth of effort and those who ***** about the rich not paying their fair share, while they pay nothing at all.

In other words, blind Obama supporters.

Hey dude. Feel free to list what you think of as Republican "accomplishment". The ones that benefited the entire country.

If you can think of any.


Oh and I don't hear the "weflare bums, single oversexed baby factoryskanks and the union free loaders" whining, crying and bitching like you simple minded ignorant repubs do.

Why is that?

Hey but you rethugs, just keep on doing what you're doing. It is working real well. Really. No problem with you all's approach. Brillant strategy you all used against Obama. Worked really well didn't it?

 

[edthecynic]

Here are some notable quotes by Sir Winston Churchill:

Winston Churchill - Quotes, Winston Churchill Quotes

You will notice that although not verbatim, he DID opined that young people are idealistic liberals, as they grow older they get their brains together and become conservatives.

Democrats and Obama worshippers could benefit from the wisdom from the rest of the quotes By Churchill who was far, far, far smarter than Obama could ever hope to be.

Thank you for proving that the CON$ervoFascist echo chamber cannot be trusted for any quote.
Again Churchill said no such thing or anything close to it! It is a plagiarized bastardization of what was said by others and attributed to Churchill to give it some credibility. The phrase originated with Francois Guisot (1787-1874): "Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head." It was revived by French Premier Georges Clemenceau (1841-1929): "Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head."

Re-iterating an idea is confirming that it IS a good idea. You presented no link or evidence to support your claim, and in fact, you implied that Churchill was a plagiarist. And that Georges Clemenceau is just as guilty as a plagiarist as Churchill for rephrasing what Guisot allegedly expressed originally.

I can not ask you to prove that Churchill never said what he said, because only in the make-believe world of liberals can a negative be proven.

BTW, nothing is original, funny or witty with CON$ervoFascist.

How exactly can I "IMPLY" that Churchill is a plagiarist when I clearly said that he NEVER said it?!!!!!

This is the problem with trying to communicate with the Misinformation Voter, whenever they get caught with their foot in their mouth, they play dumb.

 

[FJO]

zeke opined:

"Little more doing and a lot less wanting would serve you all well. And maybe the rest of us would listen a little more closely to what you want."

Seems like zeke is giving a valuable advise to welfare bums, single oversexed baby-factory skanks, unionized free-loaders who think they deserve ten bucks of pay for a dime's worth of effort and those who ***** about the rich not paying their fair share, while they pay nothing at all.

In other words, blind Obama supporters.

Hey dude. Feel free to list what you think of as Republican "accomplishment". The ones that benefited the entire country.

If you can think of any.


Oh and I don't hear the "weflare bums, single oversexed baby factoryskanks and the union free loaders" whining, crying and bitching like you simple minded ignorant repubs do.

Why is that?

Hey but you rethugs, just keep on doing what you're doing. It is working real well. Really. No problem with you all's approach. Brillant strategy you all used against Obama. Worked really well didn't it?

Why should they whine?

Their life styles are paid for by hard working people. The more little bastards, the more welfare money. The more unreasonable demand for undeserved wages and pensions the more union jobs will go to India and China. But the union thugs already feathered their own nests, so why should they whine?

One Republican accomplishment is giving everyone an EQUAL chance to succeed, on their own merit, on honest hard work, without being propped by morally corrupt crutch like affirmative action. By making your own way, speaking for themselves, without a union thug pretending to speak for them.

You know, personal freedom and honest sense of self-worth.

Rest assured, the more I see you liberals gloat the more sure I become convinced that history will repeat itself, as it always does. The Party with the false assumption that they are invincible and the other Party is forever doomed, will always overreach and becomes an unbearable bully. So, gloat and brag, but keep in mind that nobody likes and eventually everyone becomes tired of a bully.

 

[blackhawk]

“Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”
― Winston Churchill

Yet another Misinformation Voter parroting a well known fake quote!!!

Conservatism discards Prescription, shrinks from Principle, disavows Progress; having rejected all respect for antiquity, it offers no redress for the present, and makes no preparation for the future.
Benjamin Disraeli

Care to provide proof of your claim?

 

[zeke]

zeke opined:

"Little more doing and a lot less wanting would serve you all well. And maybe the rest of us would listen a little more closely to what you want."

Seems like zeke is giving a valuable advise to welfare bums, single oversexed baby-factory skanks, unionized free-loaders who think they deserve ten bucks of pay for a dime's worth of effort and those who ***** about the rich not paying their fair share, while they pay nothing at all.

In other words, blind Obama supporters.

Hey dude. Feel free to list what you think of as Republican "accomplishment". The ones that benefited the entire country.

If you can think of any.


Oh and I don't hear the "weflare bums, single oversexed baby factoryskanks and the union free loaders" whining, crying and bitching like you simple minded ignorant repubs do.

Why is that?

Hey but you rethugs, just keep on doing what you're doing. It is working real well. Really. No problem with you all's approach. Brillant strategy you all used against Obama. Worked really well didn't it?

Why should they whine?

Their life styles are paid for by hard working people. The more little bastards, the more welfare money. The more unreasonable demand for undeserved wages and pensions the more union jobs will go to India and China. But the union thugs already feathered their own nests, so why should they whine?

One Republican accomplishment is giving everyone an EQUAL chance to succeed, on their own merit, on honest hard work, without being propped by morally corrupt crutch like affirmative action. By making your own way, speaking for themselves, without a union thug pretending to speak for them.

You know, personal freedom and honest sense of self-worth.

Rest assured, the more I see you liberals gloat the more sure I become convinced that history will repeat itself, as it always does. The Party with the false assumption that they are invincible and the other Party is forever doomed, will always overreach and becomes an unbearable bully. So, gloat and brag, but keep in mind that nobody likes and eventually everyone becomes tired of a bully.

First of all, just how many people do you think have union jobs today? Do you think that most workers have union jobs?

And how is it the Dems don't like "freedom" and "self worth". You are just making that up aren't you?

But again, you rethugs just want to do the same ole same ole. Making pronouncemets how you love "freedom" and "self worth".

I am talking about an idea that brings about real positive change for people. We have had plenty of "freedom" and "self worth". It ain't making no jobs. Why is that? I thought you Repubs said that the ultra wealthy were gonna create all these jobs.

It's the unions fault, isn't it. No. It's abortions fault? No. It's the medias fault? No. Its the unions fault. They made the companies take the jobs overseas. Bingo. There is your answer. The unions and teachers and MSM. And welfare. I heard that there are 260 million people on welfare. Matter of fact the only people who are not on welfare are the people that voted republican last election. Is that correct? Sure it is dude. Sure it is.

 

[rdean]

“Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”
― Winston Churchill

Yet another Misinformation Voter parroting a well known fake quote!!!

Conservatism discards Prescription, shrinks from Principle, disavows Progress; having rejected all respect for antiquity, it offers no redress for the present, and makes no preparation for the future.
Benjamin Disraeli

Care to provide proof of your claim?

Oooh, let me.

Anti science, anti education, let him die, cut education, Iraq, anti minority, 48%, millions of jobs moved to China from 2001 to 2008, abolish the EPA, education is for snobs, we have no smart people, bring immigrants here with degrees but cut education here, cut school lunches, cut health care, cut taxes for billionaires and cut medicare to pay for it.

Should I go on. What about the apology to BP, subsidies for oil companies.......

 

[rdean]

con·ser·va·tive (kn-sûrv-tv)
adj.
Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.
Traditional or restrained in style
cautious
Of or relating to the political philosophy of conservatism.
Belonging to a conservative party, group, or movement.
One favoring traditional views and values.
Archaic A preservative agent or principle.
a person who is reluctant to accept changes and new ideas
resistant to change
unimaginative and conformist

Quotations

"I do not know which makes a man more conservative - to know nothing but the present, or nothing but the past" [John Maynard Keynes The End of Laissez-Faire]

"A man who is determined never to move out of the beaten road cannot lose his way" [William Hazlitt The Round Table]

"A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned to walk forward" [Franklin D. Roosevelt]

"The most radical revolutionary will become a conservative the day after the revolution" [Hannah Arendt]

"Conservative: a statesman who is enamoured of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others" [Ambrose Bierce The Cynic's Word Book]

redneck An ultraconservative. This disparaging term usually refers to the poor white farmers of the Southern backwoods who are notorious for their purported intolerance of liberals, intellectuals, Blacks, and hippies. Redneck, originating as an allusion to a farmer’s perennially sunburned neck, is now an epithet for any person who shares similar prejudices.

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So I go through a bunch of dictionaries and copy the definition of "Conservative". For some reason, USMB right wingers think conservatives are so creative, innovators, highly knowledgeable in science and technology. The question I have is "Why would they think that??" The entire philosophy behind conservatism is fear of change. Force your ideas on others. Limit liberty. They even say the constitution doesn't guarantee freedom FROM religion.

So if maintaining the status quo isn't the foundation of "conservatism", then what is it? What is the ultimate goal of "American Conservatism" and how would it be good for the country? If it were so good, then why are people voting against it?

I think that you are confusing Prudent, Cautious, Self Reliance, Personal Responsibility, and common sense, with not being stupid enough to be spoon fed by the likes of you. Do you want to buy a vowel?

Even with your sources, nothing sinks in with you. Consider that when we build on a philosophy, a science, an infrastructure, a political philosophy, we try and test. We build on what works, we amend, we adapt to the reality and needs of the present and the future. Abandoning what is tried, tested, proven, things that have real and implied value, because the likes of you has a bug up your ass, makes no sense, RD. Kind of like you. Change brought on by Vision is one thing, Discovery, Invention, Creation, are all born of Vision. Change for the sake of change? You paying for it? If Not, stop with the Bullshit. You are leading us into Brave New World.

Huh????

Science? The majority of the right believes the earth is less than 9,000 years old. Only 6% of scientists are Republican.

Philosophy? You mean "ideology". There is a difference.

Try and test? You mean scheme and lie. Think voter suppression. Think protecting the right to kill many children as possible at one time - there can be no other explanation for protecting huge clips in semi automatic assault weapons. Think cut school lunches.

You guys build nothing. Look at the beautiful Crystal Cathedral. Built by Evangelicals. But none of them had the talent. They hired a gay guy, Phillip Johnson, to design it because they didn't have the talent. Can you imagine how much they hated doing that?

Discovery, Invention, Creation? The only one of those Republicans believe in is "creation" and only if referring to "creationism".

Conservative colleges are the worst in the nation. The poorest and dirtiest states are mostly Red states. Since Reagan, the right wing has been an enormous disaster for this country. They are the ones dividing the country. They are the ones who brought down the economy. They are the ones who created the deficit using Reconciliation THREE TIMES during the Bush years. They are the ones attacking minorities. They are the ones who didn't pay for two wars. The list of their failure is endless. You can't defend it. It's too much at one time and too recent to deny.

 

[UKRider]

Political parties are always in a state of flux with ongoing internal reformation and external legislation. The definitions of words change and so does everything else.

Including the US Republican party which is in a state of flux due to the drubbing that President Obama has given them and continues to give them.

Yeah, they need to change. Good that they're getting on it. The world and time is moving too fast for older minds.

A new generation is upon us.

Both here and there.

 

[FJO]

Hey dude. Feel free to list what you think of as Republican "accomplishment". The ones that benefited the entire country.

If you can think of any.


Oh and I don't hear the "weflare bums, single oversexed baby factoryskanks and the union free loaders" whining, crying and bitching like you simple minded ignorant repubs do.

Why is that?

Hey but you rethugs, just keep on doing what you're doing. It is working real well. Really. No problem with you all's approach. Brillant strategy you all used against Obama. Worked really well didn't it?

Why should they whine?

Their life styles are paid for by hard working people. The more little bastards, the more welfare money. The more unreasonable demand for undeserved wages and pensions the more union jobs will go to India and China. But the union thugs already feathered their own nests, so why should they whine?

One Republican accomplishment is giving everyone an EQUAL chance to succeed, on their own merit, on honest hard work, without being propped by morally corrupt crutch like affirmative action. By making your own way, speaking for themselves, without a union thug pretending to speak for them.

You know, personal freedom and honest sense of self-worth.

Rest assured, the more I see you liberals gloat the more sure I become convinced that history will repeat itself, as it always does. The Party with the false assumption that they are invincible and the other Party is forever doomed, will always overreach and becomes an unbearable bully. So, gloat and brag, but keep in mind that nobody likes and eventually everyone becomes tired of a bully.

First of all, just how many people do you think have union jobs today? Do you think that most workers have union jobs?

And how is it the Dems don't like "freedom" and "self worth". You are just making that up aren't you?

But again, you rethugs just want to do the same ole same ole. Making pronouncemets how you love "freedom" and "self worth".

I am talking about an idea that brings about real positive change for people. We have had plenty of "freedom" and "self worth". It ain't making no jobs. Why is that? I thought you Repubs said that the ultra wealthy were gonna create all these jobs.

It's the unions fault, isn't it. No. It's abortions fault? No. It's the medias fault? No. Its the unions fault. They made the companies take the jobs overseas. Bingo. There is your answer. The unions and teachers and MSM. And welfare. I heard that there are 260 million people on welfare. Matter of fact the only people who are not on welfare are the people that voted republican last election. Is that correct? Sure it is dude. Sure it is.

The unions outlived their usefulness about 50 years ago. Nowadays only natural born free loaders would support unions and only thugs like Leo Girard and Richard Tramke and Jimmy Hoffa would debase themselves by willingly be part of a union. Of course having unlimited access to the White House and unlimited access to dues collected would sweeten the pot for those whose last day of honest work - if ever - was years and years ago.

Unions are fewer in numbers, because nobody likes to have their rights to support their families away by strikes that will NEVER bring results to make up for the lost wages which resulted in parading on streets, like an idiot sandwich between two pieces of card board, yelling obscenities.

More and more states are becoming "right to work" states, because it is everyone's RIGHT to work and support their families, regardless what the likes of Tramke and Girard and Hoffa try to say and do otherwise.

Now, for teachers. Shamefully, teaching, which was once considered a vocation, a commitment to be guidance and teaching, became a job, valued no more than any job with no educational personal involvement. To convince children that they don't have to be good because they all will get a prize, they will all graduate without being able to read and add two and two, is now mainstream "teaching". Nothing is more important than having three months vacation and suspending a 6 year old for drawing a picture of a gun and pointing his finger at a classmate. And, of course, a totally lousy teacher is protected by - you guessed it - a UNION.