R.I.P. "Never-Trump" movement, 2015-2024

[DBA]

Naw, man, nutty is trying to round up 15 million people when you can only deport 300,000 a year.

Providing sanctuary for people that have illegally entered our country is nutty to most people. Maybe that isn't the case in your circles, but that is an indictment of your acquaintances.

 

[martybegan]

So once an undocumented immigrant gets to a Blue state, he's home free, right?

I was talking about States handle unrest themselves inside said State Borders.

 

[AntonToo]

Hold your horses. I support Trumps policies as they pertain to China.

You mean like across the board tariffs that will increase inflation?

You like that?

 

[shockedcanadian]

You mean like across the board tariffs that will increase inflation?

You like that?

I've covered this before. It's not ideal, but you have to slow down China by any means necessary.

 

[JoeB131]

Providing sanctuary for people that have illegally entered our country is nutty to most people. Maybe that isn't the case in your circles, but that is an indictment of your acquaintances.

Again, when you guys go after the white people who hire them, you can get back to me, because they are all breaking the law.

The Farmer in the Red state that doesn't want to pay the kids in the trailer park a fair wage.
The Sweatshop owner that doesn't want to provide benefits and safety.
The white couple that hired Lupe to raise their kids, and she's just like a member of the family (which is why we don't file taxes for her.
The Middle class family that picks up a truckload of day laborers at the Home Depot to finish that DIY project that turned out to be a lot harder than Chip and Joanna made it look.

When you go after THOSE people, then you can complain to me about the state or city government that doesn't want to spend money chasing after people who haven't really committed any crimes in their jurisdictions.

 

[AntonToo]

Actually, a lot of them are impossibly manipulated and indoctrinated into voting Democrat, and into thinking those who don’t are racist or selfish.

Here in the DC suburbs, I am surrounded by a lot of them - and most are government “workers” who are now in a meltdown over the fact that they might have to go to the office to keep their $180,000 salaries.

That’s hilarious you say that considering how many completely ignorant, bullshit filled bumpkins vote for Trump because they saw some memes on Facebook.

 

[JoeB131]

I've covered this before. It's not ideal, but you have to slow down China by any means necessary.

Nope, I don't feel like paying more for consumer goods because you think there's a Chinaman hiding under your bed.

Tariffs don't hurt China, they hurt the American consumer.

 

[AntonToo]

I've covered this before. It's not ideal, but you have to slow down China by any means necessary.

…Slow down China from what? And how the hell do you do that with ACROSS THE BOARD tariffs, which leave them just as competitive as anyone else while causing the very thing we don’t want - inflation.

Do you seriously think Americans are going to sit by and take it on the practical level? We’ll kick out of office everyone involved in the very next election.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Nope, I don't feel like paying more for consumer goods because you think there's a Chinaman hiding under your bed.

Tariffs don't hurt China, they hurt the American consumer.

Of course they hurt China LOL, why do you think the CCP are adamantly against them? Why do you think China hits your products with tariffs?

Yes, the risk is higher prices if Americans refuse to manufacture locally or from countries outside of China,.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Slow down China from what? For what?

China nearly triples nuclear arsenal since 2020, Pentagon report says​

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[JoeB131]

Of course they hurt China LOL, why do you think the CCP are adamantly against them? Why do you think China hits your products with tariffs?

Yes, the risk is higher prices if Americans refuse to manufacture locally or from countries outside of China,.

China doesn't hit us with major tariffs. It's just that your average Chinese can't afford American made goods.

China buys 150 Billlion a year in US Products.

You obviously know very little about manufacturing or procurement.

 

[AntonToo]

China nearly triples nuclear arsenal since 2020, Pentagon report says​

MSN

www.msn.com

Aaaaand? Even broke ass North Korea can do that, how the hell are you going to slow any of that down with some tariffs that will cause inflation and political disaster for everyone involved?


Trump won because a lot of ignorant people thought he will somehow fix increased prices…what the fuck do you think they are going to do when they finally realize that he is actually RAISING them?

 

[Moonglow]

Nope, Trump still doesn't have the control he imagines.​

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These 38 Republicans voted against the Trump-backed spending bill​

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5049933-38-republicans-voted-against-trump-backed-spending-bill/

 

[Moonglow]

China doesn't hit us with major tariffs. It's just that your average Chinese can't afford American made goods.

China buys 150 Billlion a year in US Products.

You obviously know very little about manufacturing or procurement.

Most of what China buys is agriculture.

 

[shockedcanadian]

China doesn't hit us with major tariffs. It's just that your average Chinese can't afford American made goods.

China buys 150 Billlion a year in US Products.

You obviously know very little about manufacturing or procurement.

They even apply tariffs to the food you export so you think they care about costs to their citizens? Are citizens not going to eat anymore?

China is the greatest trade abuser in the world. I don't blame them they are just exploiting the corrupt and weak global leadership. I blame the rocket scientist Establishment who ran the West for the last 30 years.

Their greatest crime is the suppression of their currency which doesn't float. For that reason alone, you are subsidizing China to the tune of hundreds of billions a year, which China then lends back to you. The U.S taxpayer should be outraged!

The number of incidents and details I could provide would go on forever and you aren't interested in seeing the facts anyways. You are living as if it's 1999.

Thankfully, your ideology is fading faster than a Michael Jordan fade-away shot.

 

[AntonToo]

They even apply tariffs to the food you export so you think they care about costs to their citizens? Are citizens not going to eat anymore?

China is the greatest trade abuser in the world. I don't blame them they are just exploiting the corrupt and weak global leadership. I blame the rocket scientist Establishment who ran the West for the last 30 years.

Their greatest crime is the suppression of their currency which doesn't float. For that reason alone, you are subsidizing China to the tune of hundreds of billions a year, which China then lends back to you. The U.S taxpayer should be outraged!

The number of incidents and details I could provide would go on forever and you aren't interested in seeing the facts anyways. You are living as if it's 1999.

Thankfully, your ideology is fading faster than a Michael Jordan fade-away shot.

If tariffs were really about getting China to fix their act then why the hell would we be talking across the board tariffs instead of tariffs to leverage them into fair trade?

You are posting an excuse, not explanation why we’d want to deal with more inflation.

 

[martybegan]

Most of what China buys is agriculture.

Continuing the tradition of command economies not being able to be self sufficient in feeding their own people.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Horseshit, if tariffs were about getting China to fix their act then why the hell would we be talking across the board tariffs instead of tariffs to leverage them into fair trade?

Because Trump wants to raise money to pay for his tax cuts and more spending he wants to do but in which he can boast that he "balanced the budget". He has always been big on tariffs, going back to the 80s.

As it were, China should handle the bulk of the tariff consequences. They are profiting far more than anyone else and they have direct intentions of defeating America.

Just the act of sending precursors for the poisons that kill 100k Americans a year should be cause for war. No one cares, but you care so much about some tariffs for the junk people buy and generally don't need?

Perhaps re-assess your priorities...

 

[AntonToo]

Because Trump wants to raise money to pay for his tax cuts.

So in effect he wants to make poor and middle class people poorer, rich people richer and EVERYONE pissed off at him for causing inflation and increasing interest rates.

Brilliant, what could possibly go wrong.

 

[DBA]

Again, when you guys go after the white people who hire them, you can get back to me, because they are all breaking the law.

The Farmer in the Red state that doesn't want to pay the kids in the trailer park a fair wage.
The Sweatshop owner that doesn't want to provide benefits and safety.
The white couple that hired Lupe to raise their kids, and she's just like a member of the family (which is why we don't file taxes for her.
The Middle class family that picks up a truckload of day laborers at the Home Depot to finish that DIY project that turned out to be a lot harder than Chip and Joanna made it look.

When you go after THOSE people, then you can complain to me about the state or city government that doesn't want to spend money chasing after people who haven't really committed any crimes in their jurisdictions.

Tougher border security would solve the entire problem. They wouldn't be here in the first place. Democrats are stupid. It's that simple.