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"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against THEM, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort "By killing fellow Americans. Tell me what is the definition of treason?Lincoln was elected President of the United States, and he preserved, protected, and defended it.My previous post addressed Dishonest Abe’s intentions. I did not address the Confederacy’s intentions. I agree...the South wanted to continue slavery, as did Dishonest Abe.
Abe was the aggressor. If he doesn’t invade, there is no war.
Have you considered that war could have been easily avoided, had Abe not been such a tyrant? The entire western world eliminated slavery without bloodshed.
Your pretense that he was the aggressor in attacking the nation over which he presided and your fantasizing about his intentions are noted.
That has to be the dumbest statement of all time.That's not working, but keep repeating it if it makes you feel good.
Not working? You said that other people can consent on your behalf to be governed. You're a fucking moron. You actually said that
Exactly. If only he were hung in 1861, all that death and destruction to say nothing of the termination of American liberty, would have been avoided. Abe was a backwater bumpkin, lacking in intelligence."Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against THEM, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort "By killing fellow Americans. Tell me what is the definition of treason?Lincoln was elected President of the United States, and he preserved, protected, and defended it.My previous post addressed Dishonest Abe’s intentions. I did not address the Confederacy’s intentions. I agree...the South wanted to continue slavery, as did Dishonest Abe.
Abe was the aggressor. If he doesn’t invade, there is no war.
Have you considered that war could have been easily avoided, had Abe not been such a tyrant? The entire western world eliminated slavery without bloodshed.
Your pretense that he was the aggressor in attacking the nation over which he presided and your fantasizing about his intentions are noted.
In other words, exactly what Lincoln did. He made war against "them."
Not after it seceded....
He was not president of Virginia......
He was president of the United States of America. Virginia was one of the states of the United States of America.
The so-called secession was illegal and illegitimate, as has been explained to you many times now. Are you too stupid to understand?
Explain how it's "illegitimate" for States leave a country they no longer constant to govern them when consent of the governed is the basis of legitimacy of our government in the United STATES of America?
Our government today is a rouge criminal enterprise that completely ignores the limits on its power, the US Constitution, and should be overthrown
All of your stupidity has been debunked while you were away. Go read back a ways.
My stupidity? You're a government history teacher who literally doesn't know what consent of the governed means. You are comical
That's not working, but keep repeating it if it makes you feel good.
Not working? ...
It wasn't his country. VA seceded.Of course there was such an invasion. ....Lincoln has nothing to do with what makes the Perpetual Union what it was and is. If any Constitutional question could ever be clarified by the "original intent", this is it. It is in the thought and language of the time, and English is still our language.
Lincoln's invasion of Virginia...
There was no such "invasion," as there could not be. This has been explained to you many times, brainless.
You cannot invade your own territory. This has been explained to you many times, idiot.
Of course there was such an invasion. ....Lincoln has nothing to do with what makes the Perpetual Union what it was and is. If any Constitutional question could ever be clarified by the "original intent", this is it. It is in the thought and language of the time, and English is still our language.
Lincoln's invasion of Virginia...
There was no such "invasion," as there could not be. This has been explained to you many times, brainless.
It wasn't part of that country after it seceded.It wasn't his country. VA seceded.Of course there was such an invasion. ....Lincoln has nothing to do with what makes the Perpetual Union what it was and is. If any Constitutional question could ever be clarified by the "original intent", this is it. It is in the thought and language of the time, and English is still our language.
Lincoln's invasion of Virginia...
There was no such "invasion," as there could not be. This has been explained to you many times, brainless.
You cannot invade your own territory. This has been explained to you many times, idiot.
He was the President of the country of which that state was a part. Don't waste time repeating your falsehoods again. If you want to chase your tail, go out in the backyard and do it.
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I've aleady [sic] explained my positiion [sic] of the court. .......
He could not have "invaded" any part of the United States of which he was the President - of all 33 states.No one said he wasn't legitmately electeed, however, he also had no authority to invade Virginia. In fact, doing so was an act of treason. It doesn't matter whether a foreign power recognized the Confederacy or not. What foreign power recognized the Soviet Union?
The USSR was recognized by the United Kingdom on February, 1, 1924.
It wasn't his country. It seceded.Of course there was such an invasion. ....Lincoln has nothing to do with what makes the Perpetual Union what it was and is. If any Constitutional question could ever be clarified by the "original intent", this is it. It is in the thought and language of the time, and English is still our language.
Lincoln's invasion of Virginia...
There was no such "invasion," as there could not be. This has been explained to you many times, brainless.
You cannot invade your own territory. This has been explained to you many times, idiot.
Appeal to authority....
I've aleady [sic] explained my positiion [sic] of the court. .......
What are your qualifications in Constitutional Law? We know you can barely string together a sentence in English.
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Invading a state of the union is not protecting it. ....
Appeal to authority....
I've aleady [sic] explained my positiion [sic] of the court. .......
What are your qualifications in Constitutional Law? We know you can barely string together a sentence in English.
Next!
So the UK recognized it years after it put down the attempt of the Whites to take control. How does that show the attempt of the confederates to do the same thing means the Confederacy was illigitimate? It proves exactly the opposite. It shows that if your attempt to separate succeeds, then you are legitimate.He could not have "invaded" any part of the United States of which he was the President - of all 33 states.No one said he wasn't legitmately electeed, however, he also had no authority to invade Virginia. In fact, doing so was an act of treason. It doesn't matter whether a foreign power recognized the Confederacy or not. What foreign power recognized the Soviet Union?
The USSR was recognized by the United Kingdom on February, 1, 1924.
This ^^^^^
^^^^^^The compromise Lincoln offered to the states rebelling against the U.S. in order to preserve the Union (Lincoln's primary goal) was about slavery. After the slave states rejected Lincoln's offer, abolition of slavery became a more important objective in the war.If it was only about slavery, why did Lincoln offer to make slavery a Constitutional right so long as the Southern states came back into the Union?The Civil War was all about slavery, OK? It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States. That's bullshit. It was a Civil War, and it was about slavery. Denying that is like denying that the Nazis murdered millions of Jews in concentration camps... oh, wait, you deny that, too?
MARCH 22, 1862.
THE President last week sent in to Congress a Message recommending the passage of the following or a similar resolution :
Resolved, That the United States ought to co-operate with any State which may adopt a gradual abolishment of slavery, giving to such State pecuniary aid, to be used by such State in its discretion to compensate for the inconveniences, public and private, produced by such change of system.This Message has been applauded with equal fervor by the opponents and by the supporters of slavery. It is equally approved by the Herald and by the Tribune, by the Evening Post and by the Journal of Commerce.The old friends of slavery commend it because it recognizes the right of the Southern slave-owners to their slave property, and the exclusive right of the slave States to regulate or abolish the institution within their limits.The friends of freedom rejoice at it because it places the United States Government squarely on the record as preferring freedom to slavery, in the abstract, and as looking forward, in some future time, and in some yet undetermined way, to the abolition of slavery, and the emancipation of the negro race...Lincoln Offers Slavery Compromise
In this Harper's Weekly newspaper, Abraham Lincoln Offers a Slavery Compromise to the Southern Stateswww.sonofthesouth.net
It wasn't his country. It was Virginia. Even if it was till part of the USA, the Constitution says it's treason.....
Invading a state of the union is not protecting it. ....
You can't "invade" you own nation, dumbass. Preventing criminals from committing crimes is the job of the Executive Branch.
How am I misusing it?Appeal to authority....
I've aleady [sic] explained my positiion [sic] of the court. .......
What are your qualifications in Constitutional Law? We know you can barely string together a sentence in English.
Next!
You should learn what that means before repeating it again, dumbass.
That ended when they tore up the articles of Confederation and signed the Constitution. Nothing in the Constition says it has to be amended for a state to leave.The states all signed on to a Perpetual Union. The only legal way to leave would be by modifying the Constitution. That would, necessarily, require a resounding majority of states. The "South" decided to try extra-legal measures. It didn't work.
How am I misusing it?Appeal to authority....
I've aleady [sic] explained my positiion [sic] of the court. .......
What are your qualifications in Constitutional Law? We know you can barely string together a sentence in English.
Next!
You should learn what that means before repeating it again, dumbass.
Southerners were not citizens of the Unites States after they seceded.A civil war is defined as "a war between citizens of the same country." Seems plain enough.It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States.
It wasn't a war between the states?
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They've been lying to us in school all those years.
