The Air Leaves the Insurrection Balloon

[martybegan]

what's your point? the dems filed numerous court cases this century when they wouldn't accept the results...they set the standard...heck they took one all the way to the SCOTUS

again what's your point about the SoS of GA? You all did that in FL, Ohio, etc

and insurrections? You all started that on election day in 2016...and did it for four years...stop already....

You know what’s the major difference between Democratic challenges and Republican challenges?

Democrats are almost always the ones trying to get votes counted. Republicans are almost always the ones trying to get them thrown out.

Commitment to democracy isn’t easy, especially when you lose.

Change that to "votes counted no matter how fugazi they are"

 

[BlindBoo]

A reminder that this dispute of election results is nothing new. From another thread/post;

"Which we saw here a couple decades back(2004) with our state(Washington) governor's race between Rossi(R) and Gregoire(D).

Initially Rossi(R) won, but the count was too close to certify and by law required a recount. Seems the auditor office(the vote counters) of King County/Seattle found a box of "misplaced ballots" which shifted the win to the Democrat Gregoire. But the difference was still too close to be valid (guess the Dems weren't good at math back then).

So another "recount" and another box of "misplaced ballots" was found and this time the Dems got their math correct.

So, having done the trial balloon back then, they've been honing the process ever since and "franchised" it nation wide. "

Actually a bit more complicated and convoluted than my glib and shortcut version. Here's the fully tale;

2004 Washington gubernatorial election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Dems have objected to every Presidential election they lost this century

Trumpybear is the only candidate who planned to sow the seeds of doubt on our election system. He is the only candidate to ever claim that if he looses the election it will be because it was RIGGED. Twice!

Their goal is to undermine the US Constitution.

Yet, it was the left that has objected and claimed all but one of the last Presidential elections they lost was illegit this century

Now you're stretching it. Democrats have never rejected the courts decisions and most have always called for the country to unify behind the newly elected president.

Yes Komrades ...
... We must all march in lock-step(Unity) to the "New World Order" of Socialist Totalitarian Order.

So the American tradition of the losing candidate symbolically asking the country to unify behind the winner after a hard fought election is now "marching in lock step to the "New World Order", "Socialist Totalitarian" ?

If that's what your saying Dr. Orwell, Captain Hyperbole agrees 2000%!

Oh yeah, I recall SHillary Clinton saying something like that back in 2016, just before denouncing all those chanting "Resist", "Not my President" from 2016 to 2020.

Or was that just a long running fantasy series on the Sci-Fy channel?

If you Left-winger losers didn't have double standards, you'd have no standards at all.

Remind me again why we need the non-productive, economic parasites and deadwood of the Regressive Left here in the USA undermining our economy and Constitution.

There is a big difference in conceding the election and promising to fight with every available legal, constitutional means to regain the presidency in the next election and the losing side loudly proclaiming it was rigged or massive fraud. Then, after losing nearly all the court challenges in every single state, they persisted past the point of reasonable doubt. Those in the government who supported the effort to disingenuously pushed the big lie should be voted out of office in the coming elections.

No court challenge was lost, and you know it....The two cases that actually bothered to look at evidence ruled in favor of Trump.

Speaking of being disingenuous.

Coming to court without evidence, or insufficient evidence or evidence that lacks merit, to back up your claims is still a loss.

 

[BlindBoo]

A reminder that this dispute of election results is nothing new. From another thread/post;

"Which we saw here a couple decades back(2004) with our state(Washington) governor's race between Rossi(R) and Gregoire(D).

Initially Rossi(R) won, but the count was too close to certify and by law required a recount. Seems the auditor office(the vote counters) of King County/Seattle found a box of "misplaced ballots" which shifted the win to the Democrat Gregoire. But the difference was still too close to be valid (guess the Dems weren't good at math back then).

So another "recount" and another box of "misplaced ballots" was found and this time the Dems got their math correct.

So, having done the trial balloon back then, they've been honing the process ever since and "franchised" it nation wide. "

Actually a bit more complicated and convoluted than my glib and shortcut version. Here's the fully tale;

2004 Washington gubernatorial election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Dems have objected to every Presidential election they lost this century

Trumpybear is the only candidate who planned to sow the seeds of doubt on our election system. He is the only candidate to ever claim that if he looses the election it will be because it was RIGGED. Twice!

Their goal is to undermine the US Constitution.

Yet, it was the left that has objected and claimed all but one of the last Presidential elections they lost was illegit this century

Now you're stretching it. Democrats have never rejected the courts decisions and most have always called for the country to unify behind the newly elected president.

Yes Komrades ...
... We must all march in lock-step(Unity) to the "New World Order" of Socialist Totalitarian Order.

So the American tradition of the losing candidate symbolically asking the country to unify behind the winner after a hard fought election is now "marching in lock step to the "New World Order", "Socialist Totalitarian" ?

If that's what your saying Dr. Orwell, Captain Hyperbole agrees 2000%!

That tradition was tossed out the window in 2000 when the left wouldn't accept they lost the election and went out about Bush being illegit, and even went on and on and on and on and on about how the his brother and tour Court was involved in some vast conspiracy....it only got worse in 2016, when they began insurrections across the country started a faux Russian hoax to undermind his admin, called his win illegit, and abused their office with faux impeachments

It was the closest election in history and hinged on one state with less than a thousand votes separating the two. After it went to the Supreme Court, Gore not only publicly conceded but presided over the EC count on Jan 6th 2001, where he had to put down objections from House members of his own party before announcing the victory for President Bush.

Good for him.....but the Dems certainly attempted not to count votes, objected in the House....and continued to all Bush illegit.

You know all the things you all suggested you didn't do, and say the GOP is violating the Constitution for doing.

and no, it wasn't the closest in "history" 5 of the closest Presidential elections in US history

These thing are recorded, we don't have to wonder who did or said what. Here's Al not calling for an insurrection becuase he lost.
".....
Republicans objected, saying debate was not allowed during the session. But it was Gore, in his role as president of the Senate, who repeatedly stopped the Democrats' efforts, banging his gavel to interrupt his supporters. And as Gore politely knocked down one Democratic objection after another, the mood turned almost farcical.

"The chair thanks the gentleman from Illinois. But, hey," Gore told Illinois Rep. Jesse L. Jackson Jr., signaling that there was nothing left that could be done to reverse the closest presidential election in the nation's history. Democrats and Republicans chuckled.

Gore said the protesting Democrats - who included several who are not Black Caucus members - could not challenge the Florida count unless they presented a written objection signed by at least one member each from the House and Senate.

Defying the exasperated hoots of their Republican colleagues, the 15 Democrats slipped in arguments about the Florida election process before they were forced to acknowledge that they had not persuaded a senator to sign onto the objection.

"The objection is in writing, and I don't care that it is not signed by a senator," said angry Rep. Maxine Waters, a California Democrat.

"The chair would advise that the rules do care," Gore replied.

Gore quells challenge to Bush win

WASHINGTON – Closing the book on the tumultuous 2000 election, a good-natured Vice President Al Gore methodically blocked his supporters’ attempts yesterday to prolong the drama and pro…

www.baltimoresun.com

Electoral College Ballot Count

Meeting in joint session, representatives and senators certified Electoral College ballots submitted by the states. Following the reading of the Florida vote, objections from several members of the Congressional Black Caucus were voiced but not heard due to lack of Senate support. After voicing...

www.c-span.org

 

[colfax_m]

ah...not really...the entire DNC was pushing for votes NOT to be counted in 2000...they wanted to keep our soldiers from overseas votes from counting...can't get more patriotic then that....tell our soldiers they just don't matter

That’s why I said almost always. Those military votes arrived after the deadline and were very few in number. Meanwhile Bush was trying to keep tens of thousands of votes from being y

Change that to "votes counted no matter how fugazi they are"

If a vote had Al Gore’s name punched and then a write in that said Al Gore, those votes would be tossed. You think that’s right?

 

[bripat9643]

what's your point? the dems filed numerous court cases this century when they wouldn't accept the results...they set the standard...heck they took one all the way to the SCOTUS

again what's your point about the SoS of GA? You all did that in FL, Ohio, etc

and insurrections? You all started that on election day in 2016...and did it for four years...stop already....

You know what’s the major difference between Democratic challenges and Republican challenges?

Democrats are almost always the ones trying to get votes counted. Republicans are almost always the ones trying to get them thrown out.

Commitment to democracy isn’t easy, especially when you lose.

You mean Democrats are always the ones trying to perpetrate election fraud and Republicans are the ones trying to stop it.

 

[martybegan]

ah...not really...the entire DNC was pushing for votes NOT to be counted in 2000...they wanted to keep our soldiers from overseas votes from counting...can't get more patriotic then that....tell our soldiers they just don't matter

That’s why I said almost always. Those military votes arrived after the deadline and were very few in number. Meanwhile Bush was trying to keep tens of thousands of votes from being y

Change that to "votes counted no matter how fugazi they are"

If a vote had Al Gore’s name punched and then a write in that said Al Gore, those votes would be tossed. You think that’s right?

If that's the rules, that's the rules.

 

[colfax_m]

You mean Democrats are always the ones trying to perpetrate election fraud and Republicans are the ones trying to stop it.

Republicans are not trying to prevent fraud. They’re trying to take away people’s voice when they don’t like what they have to say.

 

[martybegan]

You mean Democrats are always the ones trying to perpetrate election fraud and Republicans are the ones trying to stop it.

Republicans are not trying to prevent fraud. They’re trying to take away people’s voice when they don’t like what they have to say.

No, that's your side.

How is having to show an ID or have a reason to absentee vote taking away a person's voice?

If I made the rules voting would be one 24 hour period and a national holiday every year. Absentee ballots only for cause, and collected in person by someone from the board of elections set against a list of requested ballots.

 

[colfax_m]

No, that's your side.

How is having to show an ID or have a reason to absentee vote taking away a person's voice?

If I made the rules voting would be one 24 hour period and a national holiday every year. Absentee ballots only for cause, and collected in person by someone from the board of elections set against a list of requested ballots.

I guess you missed the three months after Trump won the election where Republicans spent the entire time in court and lobbying legislatures trying to find ways of depriving voters of their voices.

 

[martybegan]

No, that's your side.

How is having to show an ID or have a reason to absentee vote taking away a person's voice?

If I made the rules voting would be one 24 hour period and a national holiday every year. Absentee ballots only for cause, and collected in person by someone from the board of elections set against a list of requested ballots.

I guess you missed the three months after Trump won the election where Republicans spent the entire time in court and lobbying legislatures trying to find ways of depriving voters of their voices.

They tried to get to the bottom perceived voting irregularities and got denied on standing because the courts didn't have the balls to actually look into it.

Now even mentioning potential fraud on the platforms gets you banned, but the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA crap still is out there and unchallenged.

 

[colfax_m]

No, that's your side.

How is having to show an ID or have a reason to absentee vote taking away a person's voice?

If I made the rules voting would be one 24 hour period and a national holiday every year. Absentee ballots only for cause, and collected in person by someone from the board of elections set against a list of requested ballots.

I guess you missed the three months after Trump won the election where Republicans spent the entire time in court and lobbying legislatures trying to find ways of depriving voters of their voices.

They tried to get to the bottom perceived voting irregularities and got denied on standing because the courts didn't have the balls to actually look into it.

Now even mentioning potential fraud on the platforms gets you banned, but the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA crap still is out there and unchallenged.

Throwing out votes isn’t “getting to the bottom” of something. It’s getting to a result they wanted.

 

[bripat9643]

You mean Democrats are always the ones trying to perpetrate election fraud and Republicans are the ones trying to stop it.

Republicans are not trying to prevent fraud. They’re trying to take away people’s voice when they don’t like what they have to say.

Dim horseshit. Do you actually expect anyone to swallow these lies?

 

[bripat9643]

No, that's your side.

How is having to show an ID or have a reason to absentee vote taking away a person's voice?

If I made the rules voting would be one 24 hour period and a national holiday every year. Absentee ballots only for cause, and collected in person by someone from the board of elections set against a list of requested ballots.

I guess you missed the three months after Trump won the election where Republicans spent the entire time in court and lobbying legislatures trying to find ways of depriving voters of their voices.

They tried to get to the bottom perceived voting irregularities and got denied on standing because the courts didn't have the balls to actually look into it.

Now even mentioning potential fraud on the platforms gets you banned, but the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA crap still is out there and unchallenged.

Throwing out votes isn’t “getting to the bottom” of something. It’s getting to a result they wanted.

Yes, the result they want is a fair and honest election.

 

[colfax_m]

Dim horseshit. Do you actually expect anyone to swallow these lies?

Not a lie. It was the whole point of the Capitol riot.

Y’all were dying to convince Congress to throw out electors and have the House decide that Trump won.

 

[bripat9643]

No, that's your side.

How is having to show an ID or have a reason to absentee vote taking away a person's voice?

If I made the rules voting would be one 24 hour period and a national holiday every year. Absentee ballots only for cause, and collected in person by someone from the board of elections set against a list of requested ballots.

I guess you missed the three months after Trump won the election where Republicans spent the entire time in court and lobbying legislatures trying to find ways of depriving voters of their voices.

Election fraud deprives voters of their voices, NAZI.

 

[colfax_m]

Yes, the result they want is a fair and honest election.

You guys decided Trump won before the election even happened.

 

[bripat9643]

Dim horseshit. Do you actually expect anyone to swallow these lies?

Not a lie. It was the whole point of the Capitol riot.

Y’all were dying to convince Congress to throw out electors and have the House decide that Trump won.

More lies.

 

[struth]

ah...not really...the entire DNC was pushing for votes NOT to be counted in 2000...they wanted to keep our soldiers from overseas votes from counting...can't get more patriotic then that....tell our soldiers they just don't matter

That’s why I said almost always. Those military votes arrived after the deadline and were very few in number. Meanwhile Bush was trying to keep tens of thousands of votes from being y

Change that to "votes counted no matter how fugazi they are"

If a vote had Al Gore’s name punched and then a write in that said Al Gore, those votes would be tossed. You think that’s right?

They were postmarked late, because they were coming from the Middle East...and there we thousands of them that the left was trying to not count.

and no Bush didn't want to not count votes...he didn't want them to be counted again, differently then the rest of the State...that's what the left was trying to do...get another recount, and count them differently...the Court ruled 7-2 that was a violation of the US Constitution.

Yes Dems either don't want votes to count, or to count votes that aren't there...they'll do either to try and steal an election.

 

[colfax_m]

Election fraud deprives voters of their voices, NAZI.

Trump was asking courts to throw out entire counties worth of votes.

 

[bripat9643]

Election fraud deprives voters of their voices, NAZI.

Trump was asking courts to throw out entire counties worth of votes.

So? It was clear that the votes in those countries were contaminated with thousands of illegal votes.