The Ad That Ran During The Dem Debate That Has Ocasio-Cortez Outraged

[Ray From Cleveland]

Provably it doesn't, and, more to the point the quality goes down, and so does availability.

Government run healthcare is like government run anything. Bad.

Just imagine the DMV running your healthcare.

I am perfectly fine with NJ DMV

Medicare runs just fine, ask anyone over 65 if they want to end it and go back to private coverage

Ask anyone in England or Canada if they want to abandon their universal plans and go to profit based plans like the US uses

Several years ago Newt Gingrich wanted just that, to allow people to have a choice between Medicare and private insurance. Guess what? The Democrats shut him down.

Why? Because the entire goal of the Democrat party is to have as many people depending on them as possible. I don't care if you're talking about Medicare, VA, Medicaid, Social Security, they want total control over the people.

More RW hysteria

Republicans oppose Medicare, Medicaid, SS and VA
Those who use it do not want it going private

Let me explain this to you RW.

If there was a bank where you could go and deposit a hundred dollar check, and withdraw three hundred dollars, wouldn't everybody love a bank like that?

The minuscule employer/ employee contributions to Medicare doesn't support the system. It's why it's going broke. Much of it is plain old government healthcare that taxpayers pay for through income tax collections.

My father laughs at his first major surgery, because he told me that surgery alone cost more money than he and his employers contributed to the system his entire life. He's had several other procedures since then and for course, continuing care.

Government only pays about 2/3 of the bill for their patients. The doctors and facilities make up those losses by increasing costs on everybody else. If we had Medicare for all, who is going to make up those losses? Nobody. That's why when you see health facilities close down, it's usually in poorer areas where there are few private pay or insurance paid patients. Nobody can stay open on what government gives them alone.

Don’t try to make me feel sorry for hospitals, drug companies, doctors and health insurance companies

They have the medical system by the throat

Well you better feel bad for them because when they close, you are SOL.

You can't tell a person to give up eight years of the best time in their life to go to school, and come out to make 50K a year. Not many are going to do that, but that's what you'd have with government healthcare.

I'm a patient at the world famous Cleveland Clinic. I can testify that when you go to their main campus, you are the one who feels like the foreigner.

We draw the best from around the world because this is virtually the only place a practitioner can make a decent living. They come here, learn the profession, and don't return home for that reason.

 

[rightwinger]

I am perfectly fine with NJ DMV

Medicare runs just fine, ask anyone over 65 if they want to end it and go back to private coverage

Ask anyone in England or Canada if they want to abandon their universal plans and go to profit based plans like the US uses

Several years ago Newt Gingrich wanted just that, to allow people to have a choice between Medicare and private insurance. Guess what? The Democrats shut him down.

Why? Because the entire goal of the Democrat party is to have as many people depending on them as possible. I don't care if you're talking about Medicare, VA, Medicaid, Social Security, they want total control over the people.

More RW hysteria

Republicans oppose Medicare, Medicaid, SS and VA
Those who use it do not want it going private

Let me explain this to you RW.

If there was a bank where you could go and deposit a hundred dollar check, and withdraw three hundred dollars, wouldn't everybody love a bank like that?

The minuscule employer/ employee contributions to Medicare doesn't support the system. It's why it's going broke. Much of it is plain old government healthcare that taxpayers pay for through income tax collections.

My father laughs at his first major surgery, because he told me that surgery alone cost more money than he and his employers contributed to the system his entire life. He's had several other procedures since then and for course, continuing care.

Government only pays about 2/3 of the bill for their patients. The doctors and facilities make up those losses by increasing costs on everybody else. If we had Medicare for all, who is going to make up those losses? Nobody. That's why when you see health facilities close down, it's usually in poorer areas where there are few private pay or insurance paid patients. Nobody can stay open on what government gives them alone.

Don’t try to make me feel sorry for hospitals, drug companies, doctors and health insurance companies

They have the medical system by the throat

You're such a blissful fool. Who pays you to post this shit?

Which universe do you live in?

Who do you think is pulling profits off of our healthcare?
Why has insulin tripled in price?

 

[francoHFW]

I am perfectly fine with NJ DMV

Medicare runs just fine, ask anyone over 65 if they want to end it and go back to private coverage

Ask anyone in England or Canada if they want to abandon their universal plans and go to profit based plans like the US uses

Several years ago Newt Gingrich wanted just that, to allow people to have a choice between Medicare and private insurance. Guess what? The Democrats shut him down.

Why? Because the entire goal of the Democrat party is to have as many people depending on them as possible. I don't care if you're talking about Medicare, VA, Medicaid, Social Security, they want total control over the people.

More RW hysteria

Republicans oppose Medicare, Medicaid, SS and VA
Those who use it do not want it going private

Let me explain this to you RW.

If there was a bank where you could go and deposit a hundred dollar check, and withdraw three hundred dollars, wouldn't everybody love a bank like that?

The minuscule employer/ employee contributions to Medicare doesn't support the system. It's why it's going broke. Much of it is plain old government healthcare that taxpayers pay for through income tax collections.

My father laughs at his first major surgery, because he told me that surgery alone cost more money than he and his employers contributed to the system his entire life. He's had several other procedures since then and for course, continuing care.

Government only pays about 2/3 of the bill for their patients. The doctors and facilities make up those losses by increasing costs on everybody else. If we had Medicare for all, who is going to make up those losses? Nobody. That's why when you see health facilities close down, it's usually in poorer areas where there are few private pay or insurance paid patients. Nobody can stay open on what government gives them alone.

Don’t try to make me feel sorry for hospitals, drug companies, doctors and health insurance companies

They have the medical system by the throat

You're such a blissful fool. Who pays you to post this shit?

He's also right. Our healthcare costs twice as much as anywhere else and doesn't cover many people. Pathetic. We need to regulate costs on hospitals and doctors. Transparency on costs is enough to start with.... We will be tinkering with Obamacare forever. Republicans seem to believe it was a final destination. Like the brainwashed fools they are....

 

[francoHFW]

I am perfectly fine with NJ DMV

Medicare runs just fine, ask anyone over 65 if they want to end it and go back to private coverage

Ask anyone in England or Canada if they want to abandon their universal plans and go to profit based plans like the US uses

Several years ago Newt Gingrich wanted just that, to allow people to have a choice between Medicare and private insurance. Guess what? The Democrats shut him down.

Why? Because the entire goal of the Democrat party is to have as many people depending on them as possible. I don't care if you're talking about Medicare, VA, Medicaid, Social Security, they want total control over the people.

More RW hysteria

Republicans oppose Medicare, Medicaid, SS and VA
Those who use it do not want it going private

Let me explain this to you RW.

If there was a bank where you could go and deposit a hundred dollar check, and withdraw three hundred dollars, wouldn't everybody love a bank like that?

The minuscule employer/ employee contributions to Medicare doesn't support the system. It's why it's going broke. Much of it is plain old government healthcare that taxpayers pay for through income tax collections.

My father laughs at his first major surgery, because he told me that surgery alone cost more money than he and his employers contributed to the system his entire life. He's had several other procedures since then and for course, continuing care.

Government only pays about 2/3 of the bill for their patients. The doctors and facilities make up those losses by increasing costs on everybody else. If we had Medicare for all, who is going to make up those losses? Nobody. That's why when you see health facilities close down, it's usually in poorer areas where there are few private pay or insurance paid patients. Nobody can stay open on what government gives them alone.

Don’t try to make me feel sorry for hospitals, drug companies, doctors and health insurance companies

They have the medical system by the throat

Well you better feel bad for them because when they close, you are SOL.

You can't tell a person to give up eight years of the best time in their life to go to school, and come out to make 50K a year. Not many are going to do that, but that's what you'd have with government healthcare.

I'm a patient at the world famous Cleveland Clinic. I can testify that when you go to their main campus, you are the one who feels like the foreigner.

We draw the best from around the world because this is virtually the only place a practitioner can make a decent living. They come here, learn the profession, and don't return home for that reason.

And also our entire medical system is a scam for doctors and hospitals and insurers and drugmakers LOL.... And we don't have enough medical schools. No sacrifice is too great for our bloated rich....

 

[westwall]

Several years ago Newt Gingrich wanted just that, to allow people to have a choice between Medicare and private insurance. Guess what? The Democrats shut him down.

Why? Because the entire goal of the Democrat party is to have as many people depending on them as possible. I don't care if you're talking about Medicare, VA, Medicaid, Social Security, they want total control over the people.

More RW hysteria

Republicans oppose Medicare, Medicaid, SS and VA
Those who use it do not want it going private

Let me explain this to you RW.

If there was a bank where you could go and deposit a hundred dollar check, and withdraw three hundred dollars, wouldn't everybody love a bank like that?

The minuscule employer/ employee contributions to Medicare doesn't support the system. It's why it's going broke. Much of it is plain old government healthcare that taxpayers pay for through income tax collections.

My father laughs at his first major surgery, because he told me that surgery alone cost more money than he and his employers contributed to the system his entire life. He's had several other procedures since then and for course, continuing care.

Government only pays about 2/3 of the bill for their patients. The doctors and facilities make up those losses by increasing costs on everybody else. If we had Medicare for all, who is going to make up those losses? Nobody. That's why when you see health facilities close down, it's usually in poorer areas where there are few private pay or insurance paid patients. Nobody can stay open on what government gives them alone.

Don’t try to make me feel sorry for hospitals, drug companies, doctors and health insurance companies

They have the medical system by the throat

You're such a blissful fool. Who pays you to post this shit?

He's also right. Our healthcare costs twice as much as anywhere else and doesn't cover many people. Pathetic. We need to regulate costs on hospitals and doctors. Transparency on costs is enough to start with.... We will be tinkering with Obamacare forever. Republicans seem to believe it was a final destination. Like the brainwashed fools they are....

It covers everybody you lying sack of poo.

 

[westwall]

Several years ago Newt Gingrich wanted just that, to allow people to have a choice between Medicare and private insurance. Guess what? The Democrats shut him down.

Why? Because the entire goal of the Democrat party is to have as many people depending on them as possible. I don't care if you're talking about Medicare, VA, Medicaid, Social Security, they want total control over the people.

More RW hysteria

Republicans oppose Medicare, Medicaid, SS and VA
Those who use it do not want it going private

Let me explain this to you RW.

If there was a bank where you could go and deposit a hundred dollar check, and withdraw three hundred dollars, wouldn't everybody love a bank like that?

The minuscule employer/ employee contributions to Medicare doesn't support the system. It's why it's going broke. Much of it is plain old government healthcare that taxpayers pay for through income tax collections.

My father laughs at his first major surgery, because he told me that surgery alone cost more money than he and his employers contributed to the system his entire life. He's had several other procedures since then and for course, continuing care.

Government only pays about 2/3 of the bill for their patients. The doctors and facilities make up those losses by increasing costs on everybody else. If we had Medicare for all, who is going to make up those losses? Nobody. That's why when you see health facilities close down, it's usually in poorer areas where there are few private pay or insurance paid patients. Nobody can stay open on what government gives them alone.

Don’t try to make me feel sorry for hospitals, drug companies, doctors and health insurance companies

They have the medical system by the throat

You're such a blissful fool. Who pays you to post this shit?

Which universe do you live in?

Who do you think is pulling profits off of our healthcare?
Why has insulin tripled in price?

Profiteers for the most part. And they should be fried. However, the majority of costs are driven by mal practice insurance premiums and other operating costs dictated by government regs.

Want to see a massive drop in healthcare costs institute lower pays and punitive damages caps.

Of course the trial lawyer association will scream bloody murder if you do that.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Pretty sick shit

But what can be expected from Republicans

Trump has encouraged the most extreme elements of society to come out of the closet. They are dooming the Republican Party and helping her get re-elected. Isn't it interesting how Republicans viciously go after women. Funny for a party that has a huge woman problem.

Yeah, well that sucks for you huh? Too bad we have freedom of speech, and we can go after whom ever we want. I guess you are SOL. By the way, I don't remember many Democrats complaining about "viciously going after women" when they were attacking Katherine Harris, or when you went after Sarah Palin.

But then again, if you people were not hypocrites, then you wouldn't be Democraps.

Anyway.. we intend to attack and destroy all socialist, male or female, and we really don't give a crap what you putrid trash things about anything.
So.... too bad. Sucks to be you. We won't be silenced by an entire party of hypocritical trash. You are just SOL. We don't care what you think about us anymore.

Either women are equal to men and can do the same jobs - including political office - in which case we can treat them just like men and go after them just as much, or they're delicate flowers who need special treatment, in which case they need to get their whining asses back in the kitchen. And I say that as a woman. I don't live this hypocrisy in my own life, and I resent having these strident viragos making it look like this crap is standard for women everywhere.

Feminists rely on women seeing themselves as victims. It's pathetic.

Feminists stand up for victims
Always have

It depends on what and whom they define as “victims” - starting with themselves.

 

[francoHFW]

More RW hysteria

Republicans oppose Medicare, Medicaid, SS and VA
Those who use it do not want it going private

Let me explain this to you RW.

If there was a bank where you could go and deposit a hundred dollar check, and withdraw three hundred dollars, wouldn't everybody love a bank like that?

The minuscule employer/ employee contributions to Medicare doesn't support the system. It's why it's going broke. Much of it is plain old government healthcare that taxpayers pay for through income tax collections.

My father laughs at his first major surgery, because he told me that surgery alone cost more money than he and his employers contributed to the system his entire life. He's had several other procedures since then and for course, continuing care.

Government only pays about 2/3 of the bill for their patients. The doctors and facilities make up those losses by increasing costs on everybody else. If we had Medicare for all, who is going to make up those losses? Nobody. That's why when you see health facilities close down, it's usually in poorer areas where there are few private pay or insurance paid patients. Nobody can stay open on what government gives them alone.

Don’t try to make me feel sorry for hospitals, drug companies, doctors and health insurance companies

They have the medical system by the throat

You're such a blissful fool. Who pays you to post this shit?

He's also right. Our healthcare costs twice as much as anywhere else and doesn't cover many people. Pathetic. We need to regulate costs on hospitals and doctors. Transparency on costs is enough to start with.... We will be tinkering with Obamacare forever. Republicans seem to believe it was a final destination. Like the brainwashed fools they are....

It covers everybody you lying sack of poo.

Quite a few red states that do not have expanded medicaid and many people do not buy house insurance. Many people are not covered. What are you talkin about question it should cover everybody who wants it. Obama himself did not want the mandate. That was changed in Congress

 

[rightwinger]

More RW hysteria

Republicans oppose Medicare, Medicaid, SS and VA
Those who use it do not want it going private

Let me explain this to you RW.

If there was a bank where you could go and deposit a hundred dollar check, and withdraw three hundred dollars, wouldn't everybody love a bank like that?

The minuscule employer/ employee contributions to Medicare doesn't support the system. It's why it's going broke. Much of it is plain old government healthcare that taxpayers pay for through income tax collections.

My father laughs at his first major surgery, because he told me that surgery alone cost more money than he and his employers contributed to the system his entire life. He's had several other procedures since then and for course, continuing care.

Government only pays about 2/3 of the bill for their patients. The doctors and facilities make up those losses by increasing costs on everybody else. If we had Medicare for all, who is going to make up those losses? Nobody. That's why when you see health facilities close down, it's usually in poorer areas where there are few private pay or insurance paid patients. Nobody can stay open on what government gives them alone.

Don’t try to make me feel sorry for hospitals, drug companies, doctors and health insurance companies

They have the medical system by the throat

You're such a blissful fool. Who pays you to post this shit?

Which universe do you live in?

Who do you think is pulling profits off of our healthcare?
Why has insulin tripled in price?

Profiteers for the most part. And thg hey should be fried. However, the majority of costs are driven by mal practice insurance premiums and other operating costs dictated by government regs.

Want to see a massive drop in healthcare costs institute lower pays and punitive damages caps.

Of course the trial lawyer association will scream bloody murder if you do that.

What bullshit
Lawsuits protect patients. Removing the threat of lawsuits allows medical practitioners to trade off safety for profits

 

[DamnDude]

Capt Hyperbole strikes again

Getting healthcare for all will somehow kill millions

Tell us about this magical unicorn fart, and how it will be able pay for everyone's healthcare.

Americans and their employers already pay a fortune for healthcare coverage

Universal coverage will cost less and provide better coverage

It does in every other country

The problem you have is you ignore that all those countries people pay much higher taxes to pay for it, and just because they have health insurance doesn't mean they actually have healthcare. The Canadiens flocking to the US for medical care is CLEAR evidence of that.

Does it matter what pocket the money comes out of?

If you take the money citizens and their employers now spend on healthcare and add it to a special fund for Medicare, it will cost less

You can always tell who has never been treated in the VA healthcare system.

I'll explain it to you: VA healthcare is the DMV of the medical system. Inefficient, long wait times, endless bureaucracy and red tape, poor outcomes.

That's what you want for everybody? No, thanks.

Oh, the stories I could tell....
VA is 1000% better than what it was...
At the end of the day a polished turd, at it's core, is still nothing but a pile of shit.

 

[Andylusion]

Pretty sick shit

But what can be expected from Republicans

What is sick, disease-like is the insistence that if you are Republican, you are racist.

If you are racist......You are Republican

If you are a lying scum sucking jerk and embarrassment to the human race... then you are a Democrap.

 

[rightwinger]

Pretty sick shit

But what can be expected from Republicans

What is sick, disease-like is the insistence that if you are Republican, you are racist.

If you are racist......You are Republican

If you are a lying scum sucking jerk and embarrassment to the human race... then you are a Democrap.

It is true

Hillary called them the Deplorables. The racists, bigots, homophobes who flock to GOP doctrine

 

[Andylusion]

The problem you have is you ignore that all those countries people pay much higher taxes to pay for it, and just because they have health insurance doesn't mean they actually have healthcare. The Canadiens flocking to the US for medical care is CLEAR evidence of that.

Does it matter what pocket the money comes out of?

If you take the money citizens and their employers now spend on healthcare and add it to a special fund for Medicare, it will cost less

Provably it doesn't, and, more to the point the quality goes down, and so does availability.

Government run healthcare is like government run anything. Bad.

Just imagine the DMV running your healthcare.

I am perfectly fine with NJ DMV

Medicare runs just fine, ask anyone over 65 if they want to end it and go back to private coverage

Ask anyone in England or Canada if they want to abandon their universal plans and go to profit based plans like the US uses

Several years ago Newt Gingrich wanted just that, to allow people to have a choice between Medicare and private insurance. Guess what? The Democrats shut him down.

Why? Because the entire goal of the Democrat party is to have as many people depending on them as possible. I don't care if you're talking about Medicare, VA, Medicaid, Social Security, they want total control over the people.

More RW hysteria

Republicans oppose Medicare, Medicaid, SS and VA
Those who use it do not want it going private

Well yeah. The people in Greece didn't want to privatize their system either, and it bankrupted the entire country.

Yeah people collecting the money, don't want the hand-outs to stop. I get that.

But there's a problem. The problem is called "Math".

Unfunded Govt. Liabilities -- Our Ticking Time Bomb | RealClearPolitics

The doom of which I speak is unfunded liabilities — $122 trillion in payments the government owes and has promised its citizens — without the funds to fulfill those obligations.

According to the Treasury Department, total U.S. unfunded liability includes Social Security (along with Medicare Parts A, B, and D), federal debt held by the public, plus federal employee and veteran benefits.

Before you call me an alarmist, I refer you to the U.S. Debt Clock. Here you can watch our time bomb tick in real time with that $122 trillion in unfunded liabilities as one of the major “fuses.”
​

Now I get it... you people on the left are brainless ignorant fools, screaming at the top of your lungs, shutting your eyes, and covering your ears, yelling "BUT I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT!"

But "MATH" doesn't care that you barely have the intellectual capacity of a farm chicken.

The reason we are on the right-wing care about Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.... is because we are adults... not Democrap Children having a temper-tantrum... and we can do "MATH".

You people on the left, will face the music someday. And I would wager soon. But whether you like it or not, those programs will be heavily modified, or privatized, whether you scream and yell, and roll around on the ground, or not.

And by the way, it won't matter if you elect 100% democrats in the future. Because even AOC, at the end of the day, will face the reality of "MATH".

Being "morally right" does not at the end of the day, over ride being factually... or mathematically correct.

The bottom line is, we're better people than you, more adult than you, and we'll save your children from the Venezuelan hell hole you support, with or without you.

 

[bripat9643]

Americans and their employers already pay a fortune for healthcare coverage

Universal coverage will cost less and provide better coverage

It does in every other country

You mean like Obamacare promised?

Yes

Where is that health plan Trump promised that is cheaper and better than Obamacare?

I don't know. Where is that affordable insurance DumBama promised us?

75% of those on the exchanges pay less than $100 a month, brainwashed functional moron. And 14 million pay nothing for Medicaid except in real scumbag red States. Like Ohio. Answer- stop sabotaging it....

Oh, so what you're saying is that Commie Care was designed for the poor; you know, likely Democrat voters?

Thanks for admitting that to us. Because it's what we've been saying all along.

To be more precise, it's a handout to deadbeats.

 

[Andylusion]

Pretty sick shit

But what can be expected from Republicans

What is sick, disease-like is the insistence that if you are Republican, you are racist.

If you are racist......You are Republican

If you are a lying scum sucking jerk and embarrassment to the human race... then you are a Democrap.

It is true

Hillary called them the Deplorables. The racists, bigots, homophobes who flock to GOP doctrine

Which proves that you, and her, are the Deplorables. When you have to make up false accusations against everyone you disagree with.... then that makes you fascist scum bag. I agree with Hillary saying all that, because it shows what deplorable people you, and her, all are.

 

[rightwinger]

Does it matter what pocket the money comes out of?

If you take the money citizens and their employers now spend on healthcare and add it to a special fund for Medicare, it will cost less

Provably it doesn't, and, more to the point the quality goes down, and so does availability.

Government run healthcare is like government run anything. Bad.

Just imagine the DMV running your healthcare.

I am perfectly fine with NJ DMV

Medicare runs just fine, ask anyone over 65 if they want to end it and go back to private coverage

Ask anyone in England or Canada if they want to abandon their universal plans and go to profit based plans like the US uses

Several years ago Newt Gingrich wanted just that, to allow people to have a choice between Medicare and private insurance. Guess what? The Democrats shut him down.

Why? Because the entire goal of the Democrat party is to have as many people depending on them as possible. I don't care if you're talking about Medicare, VA, Medicaid, Social Security, they want total control over the people.

More RW hysteria

Republicans oppose Medicare, Medicaid, SS and VA
Those who use it do not want it going private

Well yeah. The people in Greece didn't want to privatize their system either, and it bankrupted the entire country.

Yeah people collecting the money, don't want the hand-outs to stop. I get that.

But there's a problem. The problem is called "Math".

Unfunded Govt. Liabilities -- Our Ticking Time Bomb | RealClearPolitics

The doom of which I speak is unfunded liabilities — $122 trillion in payments the government owes and has promised its citizens — without the funds to fulfill those obligations.

According to the Treasury Department, total U.S. unfunded liability includes Social Security (along with Medicare Parts A, B, and D), federal debt held by the public, plus federal employee and veteran benefits.

Before you call me an alarmist, I refer you to the U.S. Debt Clock. Here you can watch our time bomb tick in real time with that $122 trillion in unfunded liabilities as one of the major “fuses.”
​

Now I get it... you people on the left are brainless ignorant fools, screaming at the top of your lungs, shutting your eyes, and covering your ears, yelling "BUT I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT!"

But "MATH" doesn't care that you barely have the intellectual capacity of a farm chicken.

The reason we are on the right-wing care about Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.... is because we are adults... not Democrap Children having a temper-tantrum... and we can do "MATH".

You people on the left, will face the music someday. And I would wager soon. But whether you like it or not, those programs will be heavily modified, or privatized, whether you scream and yell, and roll around on the ground, or not.

And by the way, it won't matter if you elect 100% democrats in the future. Because even AOC, at the end of the day, will face the reality of "MATH".

Being "morally right" does not at the end of the day, over ride being factually... or mathematically correct.

The bottom line is, we're better people than you, more adult than you, and we'll save your children from the Venezuelan hell hole you support, with or without you.

Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid have been working for over 50 years. Republicans have opposed them all along

I just checked.....
We are not Greece
You can rest easily

 

[LeftofLeft]

Pretty sick shit

But what can be expected from Republicans

What is sick, disease-like is the insistence that if you are Republican, you are racist.

If you are racist......You are Republican

If you are a lying scum sucking jerk and embarrassment to the human race... then you are a Democrap.

It is true

Hillary called them the Deplorables. The racists, bigots, homophobes who flock to GOP doctrine

Your defense is Hillary? You are worshipping Hillary? She was so cocksure of her primary victory she had to send her servant Donna Brazille to steal the questions. Hillary uses Black People.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Several years ago Newt Gingrich wanted just that, to allow people to have a choice between Medicare and private insurance. Guess what? The Democrats shut him down.

Why? Because the entire goal of the Democrat party is to have as many people depending on them as possible. I don't care if you're talking about Medicare, VA, Medicaid, Social Security, they want total control over the people.

More RW hysteria

Republicans oppose Medicare, Medicaid, SS and VA
Those who use it do not want it going private

Let me explain this to you RW.

If there was a bank where you could go and deposit a hundred dollar check, and withdraw three hundred dollars, wouldn't everybody love a bank like that?

The minuscule employer/ employee contributions to Medicare doesn't support the system. It's why it's going broke. Much of it is plain old government healthcare that taxpayers pay for through income tax collections.

My father laughs at his first major surgery, because he told me that surgery alone cost more money than he and his employers contributed to the system his entire life. He's had several other procedures since then and for course, continuing care.

Government only pays about 2/3 of the bill for their patients. The doctors and facilities make up those losses by increasing costs on everybody else. If we had Medicare for all, who is going to make up those losses? Nobody. That's why when you see health facilities close down, it's usually in poorer areas where there are few private pay or insurance paid patients. Nobody can stay open on what government gives them alone.

Don’t try to make me feel sorry for hospitals, drug companies, doctors and health insurance companies

They have the medical system by the throat

You're such a blissful fool. Who pays you to post this shit?

Which universe do you live in?

Who do you think is pulling profits off of our healthcare?
Why has insulin tripled in price?

Why? Because the makers of insulin made a dirty deal with Walmart, that's why.

What they did was sell insulin to Walmart for dirt cheap, and drastically increased prices to everybody else to make up the difference.

Walmart sells insulin for the same price as it was over 20 years ago. But like I said, it's two to three times more expensive everywhere else outside a Walmart subsidiary like Sam's Club.

 

[francoHFW]

You mean like Obamacare promised?

Yes

Where is that health plan Trump promised that is cheaper and better than Obamacare?

I don't know. Where is that affordable insurance DumBama promised us?

75% of those on the exchanges pay less than $100 a month, brainwashed functional moron. And 14 million pay nothing for Medicaid except in real scumbag red States. Like Ohio. Answer- stop sabotaging it....

Oh, so what you're saying is that Commie Care was designed for the poor; you know, likely Democrat voters?

Thanks for admitting that to us. Because it's what we've been saying all along.

To be more precise, it's a handout to deadbeats.

We used to call them the unfortunate before Reagan demonized them

 

[Andylusion]

Provably it doesn't, and, more to the point the quality goes down, and so does availability.

Government run healthcare is like government run anything. Bad.

Just imagine the DMV running your healthcare.

I am perfectly fine with NJ DMV

Medicare runs just fine, ask anyone over 65 if they want to end it and go back to private coverage

Ask anyone in England or Canada if they want to abandon their universal plans and go to profit based plans like the US uses

Several years ago Newt Gingrich wanted just that, to allow people to have a choice between Medicare and private insurance. Guess what? The Democrats shut him down.

Why? Because the entire goal of the Democrat party is to have as many people depending on them as possible. I don't care if you're talking about Medicare, VA, Medicaid, Social Security, they want total control over the people.

More RW hysteria

Republicans oppose Medicare, Medicaid, SS and VA
Those who use it do not want it going private

Well yeah. The people in Greece didn't want to privatize their system either, and it bankrupted the entire country.

Yeah people collecting the money, don't want the hand-outs to stop. I get that.

But there's a problem. The problem is called "Math".

Unfunded Govt. Liabilities -- Our Ticking Time Bomb | RealClearPolitics

The doom of which I speak is unfunded liabilities — $122 trillion in payments the government owes and has promised its citizens — without the funds to fulfill those obligations.

According to the Treasury Department, total U.S. unfunded liability includes Social Security (along with Medicare Parts A, B, and D), federal debt held by the public, plus federal employee and veteran benefits.

Before you call me an alarmist, I refer you to the U.S. Debt Clock. Here you can watch our time bomb tick in real time with that $122 trillion in unfunded liabilities as one of the major “fuses.”
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Now I get it... you people on the left are brainless ignorant fools, screaming at the top of your lungs, shutting your eyes, and covering your ears, yelling "BUT I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT!"

But "MATH" doesn't care that you barely have the intellectual capacity of a farm chicken.

The reason we are on the right-wing care about Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.... is because we are adults... not Democrap Children having a temper-tantrum... and we can do "MATH".

You people on the left, will face the music someday. And I would wager soon. But whether you like it or not, those programs will be heavily modified, or privatized, whether you scream and yell, and roll around on the ground, or not.

And by the way, it won't matter if you elect 100% democrats in the future. Because even AOC, at the end of the day, will face the reality of "MATH".

Being "morally right" does not at the end of the day, over ride being factually... or mathematically correct.

The bottom line is, we're better people than you, more adult than you, and we'll save your children from the Venezuelan hell hole you support, with or without you.

Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid have been working for over 50 years. Republicans have opposed them all along

I just checked.....
We are not Greece
You can rest easily

And you just proved again, that you are not an adult.

It's ironic really, because the the left-wing says they the USA is not a special country, and that we are no better than the rest of the world.

But with this, you are basically saying that the USA is a unique country, that is somehow exempt from math, and economics.

That we, just because we are the USA, and Greece is not the USA, that we can do exactly the same thing Greece did, and yeah it might screw up Greece, but we are somehow "Above the laws of math".

That a childish thinking. You are acting and responding exactly like a toddler, which is why I gave that example.

The Soviet Union worked for 50 years too, and they were engaging in cannibalism and mass starvation by the end.

The fact a failing system has worked for 50 years, doesn't mean anything. Nothing. If we had zero debt, and zero unfunded liabilities, and the government had trillions in assets to pay future retirees......

We wouldn't be having this conversation.

Fact is, we have trillions in unfunded liabilities, more debt than our total annual GDP, and no assets to pay future retirees.

If you want to be a toddler, that's your choice. The rest of us are going to be adults.