The Ad That Ran During The Dem Debate That Has Ocasio-Cortez Outraged

[The Purge]

Pretty sick shit

But what can be expected from Republicans

Lol right? It's almost as bad as when they made a fake head, covered it with blood and held a knife. To imply cutting her head off. Or just strait up shooting her while she is playing baseball.
Thank gawd almighty Democrats are above that.

Another lying piece of shit ABNORMAL...ABOVE IT MY ASS

 

[JusticeHammer]

But it does because what she wants to do will perforce cause the deaths of millions.

That's the problem that you clowns all have. Your cures are always worse than the illness.

Capt Hyperbole strikes again

Getting healthcare for all will somehow kill millions

Tell us about this magical unicorn fart, and how it will be able pay for everyone's healthcare.

Americans and their employers already pay a fortune for healthcare coverage

Universal coverage will cost less and provide better coverage

It does in every other country

You mean like Obamacare promised?

Yes

Where is that health plan Trump promised that is cheaper and better than Obamacare?

Anything is better than obutholecare.

 

[westwall]

You're such a blissful fool. Who pays you to post this shit?

Which universe do you live in?

Who do you think is pulling profits off of our healthcare?
Why has insulin tripled in price?

Why? Because the makers of insulin made a dirty deal with Walmart, that's why.

What they did was sell insulin to Walmart for dirt cheap, and drastically increased prices to everybody else to make up the difference.

Walmart sells insulin for the same price as it was over 20 years ago. But like I said, it's two to three times more expensive everywhere else outside a Walmart subsidiary like Sam's Club.

After a hundred years on the market, I’m surprised insulin only has a few manufacturers and Walmart is their main customer

The price of a common lifesaving drug has been jacked up to where diabetics are rationing it

This is true and I'm against it. But Walmart has a lot of pull with manufacturers.

One of our customers manufactures for Walmart. They are constantly looking for places to process their parts because Walmart is always on their asses for lower prices.

We used to just drop a trailer in their dock, and pickup our empty, and head out of the place. Because of Walmart, they now make us check in, sign in, provide all kinds of useless information such as the trailer number we dropped. They also regulate that our customer cannot unload us if we don't drop the trailer and instead, wait to be unloaded. They demand that we either detach the trailer, or walk all the way back to the shipping office to wait inside.

I think it's ridiculous that a customer tell their vendors how they will operate their shipping department, but that's what happens when it comes to Walmart.

It is not real insulin there is no conspiracy and it is no cure for the problem. We need a national government that is not afraid of fighting with corrupt drug companies hospitals doctors and insurance companies you name it.

What a complete fool you are. Those corporations BUY their politicians who then do the bidding of those corporations.

And you want them to do even more of that crap.

You are a super duper hater dupe.

 

[JusticeHammer]

Tell us about this magical unicorn fart, and how it will be able pay for everyone's healthcare.

Americans and their employers already pay a fortune for healthcare coverage

Universal coverage will cost less and provide better coverage

It does in every other country

Universal anything never costs less. You people have a pretty sorry record on healthcare costs anyway. You all thought obummercare would be great but it was terrible for 90 million people. Great for a few hundred thousand, but terrible for 90 million.

Typical record for you people though.

Costs less in every other country

Are you saying other countries can do it but the great US can’t?

Because it is worse. And America subsidizes it. We pay more for drugs so that they can pay less.

That's bullcrap.

Republican bullcrap. Totally bought off by big business, super duper.

Still the dumbass you are.

 

[daveman]

Let me explain this to you RW.

If there was a bank where you could go and deposit a hundred dollar check, and withdraw three hundred dollars, wouldn't everybody love a bank like that?

The minuscule employer/ employee contributions to Medicare doesn't support the system. It's why it's going broke. Much of it is plain old government healthcare that taxpayers pay for through income tax collections.

My father laughs at his first major surgery, because he told me that surgery alone cost more money than he and his employers contributed to the system his entire life. He's had several other procedures since then and for course, continuing care.

Government only pays about 2/3 of the bill for their patients. The doctors and facilities make up those losses by increasing costs on everybody else. If we had Medicare for all, who is going to make up those losses? Nobody. That's why when you see health facilities close down, it's usually in poorer areas where there are few private pay or insurance paid patients. Nobody can stay open on what government gives them alone.

Don’t try to make me feel sorry for hospitals, drug companies, doctors and health insurance companies

They have the medical system by the throat

You're such a blissful fool. Who pays you to post this shit?

He's also right. Our healthcare costs twice as much as anywhere else and doesn't cover many people. Pathetic. We need to regulate costs on hospitals and doctors. Transparency on costs is enough to start with.... We will be tinkering with Obamacare forever. Republicans seem to believe it was a final destination. Like the brainwashed fools they are....

It covers everybody you lying sack of poo.

Quite a few red states that do not have expanded medicaid and many people do not buy house insurance. Many people are not covered. What are you talkin about question it should cover everybody who wants it. Obama himself did not want the mandate. That was changed in Congress

That was added by the insurance industry. I already told you that Obamacare was authored by insurance companies, and rubber-stamped by Democrats.

It would be completely awesome if you'd think for yourself for a change.

 

[daveman]

Let me explain this to you RW.

If there was a bank where you could go and deposit a hundred dollar check, and withdraw three hundred dollars, wouldn't everybody love a bank like that?

The minuscule employer/ employee contributions to Medicare doesn't support the system. It's why it's going broke. Much of it is plain old government healthcare that taxpayers pay for through income tax collections.

My father laughs at his first major surgery, because he told me that surgery alone cost more money than he and his employers contributed to the system his entire life. He's had several other procedures since then and for course, continuing care.

Government only pays about 2/3 of the bill for their patients. The doctors and facilities make up those losses by increasing costs on everybody else. If we had Medicare for all, who is going to make up those losses? Nobody. That's why when you see health facilities close down, it's usually in poorer areas where there are few private pay or insurance paid patients. Nobody can stay open on what government gives them alone.

Don’t try to make me feel sorry for hospitals, drug companies, doctors and health insurance companies

They have the medical system by the throat

You're such a blissful fool. Who pays you to post this shit?

Which universe do you live in?

Who do you think is pulling profits off of our healthcare?
Why has insulin tripled in price?

Profiteers for the most part. And thg hey should be fried. However, the majority of costs are driven by mal practice insurance premiums and other operating costs dictated by government regs.

Want to see a massive drop in healthcare costs institute lower pays and punitive damages caps.

Of course the trial lawyer association will scream bloody murder if you do that.

What bullshit
Lawsuits protect patients. Removing the threat of lawsuits allows medical practitioners to trade off safety for profits

And what happens when all providers are government employees?

You can't sue the government without the government's permission.

 

[Andylusion]

Which universe do you live in?

Who do you think is pulling profits off of our healthcare?
Why has insulin tripled in price?

Why? Because the makers of insulin made a dirty deal with Walmart, that's why.

What they did was sell insulin to Walmart for dirt cheap, and drastically increased prices to everybody else to make up the difference.

Walmart sells insulin for the same price as it was over 20 years ago. But like I said, it's two to three times more expensive everywhere else outside a Walmart subsidiary like Sam's Club.

After a hundred years on the market, I’m surprised insulin only has a few manufacturers and Walmart is their main customer

The price of a common lifesaving drug has been jacked up to where diabetics are rationing it

This is true and I'm against it. But Walmart has a lot of pull with manufacturers.

One of our customers manufactures for Walmart. They are constantly looking for places to process their parts because Walmart is always on their asses for lower prices.

We used to just drop a trailer in their dock, and pickup our empty, and head out of the place. Because of Walmart, they now make us check in, sign in, provide all kinds of useless information such as the trailer number we dropped. They also regulate that our customer cannot unload us if we don't drop the trailer and instead, wait to be unloaded. They demand that we either detach the trailer, or walk all the way back to the shipping office to wait inside.

I think it's ridiculous that a customer tell their vendors how they will operate their shipping department, but that's what happens when it comes to Walmart.

It is not real insulin there is no conspiracy and it is no cure for the problem. We need a national government that is not afraid of fighting with corrupt drug companies hospitals doctors and insurance companies you name it.

What a complete fool you are. Those corporations BUY their politicians who then do the bidding of those corporations.

And you want 5hem to do even more of that crap.

You are a super duper hater dupe.

I don't actually believe that corporations have nearly as much power over government as people suggest.

That said.... if they think they are going to form a government that is going to stick it to the corporations.... you are crazy. Every authoritarian government, that "sticks it to the corporations" ends up being in bed with all those corporations.

 

[westwall]

Don’t try to make me feel sorry for hospitals, drug companies, doctors and health insurance companies

They have the medical system by the throat

You're such a blissful fool. Who pays you to post this shit?

Which universe do you live in?

Who do you think is pulling profits off of our healthcare?
Why has insulin tripled in price?

Profiteers for the most part. And thg hey should be fried. However, the majority of costs are driven by mal practice insurance premiums and other operating costs dictated by government regs.

Want to see a massive drop in healthcare costs institute lower pays and punitive damages caps.

Of course the trial lawyer association will scream bloody murder if you do that.

What bullshit
Lawsuits protect patients. Removing the threat of lawsuits allows medical practitioners to trade off safety for profits

And what happens when all providers are government employees?

You can't sue the government without the government's permission.

Oh lefty don't care. That would be good for his paymaster pootin. Lefty has a hard on for pootin, don't yah know!

 

[westwall]

Why? Because the makers of insulin made a dirty deal with Walmart, that's why.

What they did was sell insulin to Walmart for dirt cheap, and drastically increased prices to everybody else to make up the difference.

Walmart sells insulin for the same price as it was over 20 years ago. But like I said, it's two to three times more expensive everywhere else outside a Walmart subsidiary like Sam's Club.

After a hundred years on the market, I’m surprised insulin only has a few manufacturers and Walmart is their main customer

The price of a common lifesaving drug has been jacked up to where diabetics are rationing it

This is true and I'm against it. But Walmart has a lot of pull with manufacturers.

One of our customers manufactures for Walmart. They are constantly looking for places to process their parts because Walmart is always on their asses for lower prices.

We used to just drop a trailer in their dock, and pickup our empty, and head out of the place. Because of Walmart, they now make us check in, sign in, provide all kinds of useless information such as the trailer number we dropped. They also regulate that our customer cannot unload us if we don't drop the trailer and instead, wait to be unloaded. They demand that we either detach the trailer, or walk all the way back to the shipping office to wait inside.

I think it's ridiculous that a customer tell their vendors how they will operate their shipping department, but that's what happens when it comes to Walmart.

It is not real insulin there is no conspiracy and it is no cure for the problem. We need a national government that is not afraid of fighting with corrupt drug companies hospitals doctors and insurance companies you name it.

What a complete fool you are. Those corporations BUY their politicians who then do the bidding of those corporations.

And you want 5hem to do even more of that crap.

You are a super duper hater dupe.

I don't actually believe that corporations have nearly as much power over government as people suggest.

That said.... if they think they are going to form a government that is going to stick it to the corporations.... you are crazy. Every authoritarian government, that "sticks it to the corporations" ends up being in bed with all those corporations.

I do. For decades the Senator from Washington State was known as " the Senator from Boeing".

 

[francoHFW]

You're such a blissful fool. Who pays you to post this shit?

Which universe do you live in?

Who do you think is pulling profits off of our healthcare?
Why has insulin tripled in price?

Why? Because the makers of insulin made a dirty deal with Walmart, that's why.

What they did was sell insulin to Walmart for dirt cheap, and drastically increased prices to everybody else to make up the difference.

Walmart sells insulin for the same price as it was over 20 years ago. But like I said, it's two to three times more expensive everywhere else outside a Walmart subsidiary like Sam's Club.

After a hundred years on the market, I’m surprised insulin only has a few manufacturers and Walmart is their main customer

The price of a common lifesaving drug has been jacked up to where diabetics are rationing it

Insulin isn't a drug. It's a protein your body produces. It can't be created simply by whipping a few chemicals together. Previously it was purified from the pancreases of horses, and that process was even more expensive than the current process. The current method uses genetic engineering to alter yeast so it produces the protein. It is then purified from the yeast.

If the patent for the genetically engineered yeast is still in effect, then it's easy to understand why it's so expensive, but I believe that patent has expired. I use insulin, so I'm curious about the reason for the high price. At times it my insurance company has paid up to $600/mo for my insulin prescription.

If you use insulin, it's only $25.00 a vial at Walmart. That's why I only go there. However unless you have a prescription, they have a limit to four vials a visit to try and prevent black market sales.

I would read this article. It says that Walmart insulin it's not real insolence and not as good.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...DRA0&usg=AOvVaw20Fp0AGcNG-KopRxGm0sMl&ampcf=1

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Which universe do you live in?

Who do you think is pulling profits off of our healthcare?
Why has insulin tripled in price?

Why? Because the makers of insulin made a dirty deal with Walmart, that's why.

What they did was sell insulin to Walmart for dirt cheap, and drastically increased prices to everybody else to make up the difference.

Walmart sells insulin for the same price as it was over 20 years ago. But like I said, it's two to three times more expensive everywhere else outside a Walmart subsidiary like Sam's Club.

After a hundred years on the market, I’m surprised insulin only has a few manufacturers and Walmart is their main customer

The price of a common lifesaving drug has been jacked up to where diabetics are rationing it

Insulin isn't a drug. It's a protein your body produces. It can't be created simply by whipping a few chemicals together. Previously it was purified from the pancreases of horses, and that process was even more expensive than the current process. The current method uses genetic engineering to alter yeast so it produces the protein. It is then purified from the yeast.

If the patent for the genetically engineered yeast is still in effect, then it's easy to understand why it's so expensive, but I believe that patent has expired. I use insulin, so I'm curious about the reason for the high price. At times it my insurance company has paid up to $600/mo for my insulin prescription.

If you use insulin, it's only $25.00 a vial at Walmart. That's why I only go there. However unless you have a prescription, they have a limit to four vials a visit to try and prevent black market sales.

I would read this article. It says that Walmart insulin it's not real insolence and not as good.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...DRA0&usg=AOvVaw20Fp0AGcNG-KopRxGm0sMl&ampcf=1

So your basing an article against my personal experience with diabetes for over 30 years, and the recommendation of my endocrinologist? Good thinking.

Now explain, why would a company produce two kinds of insulin? Like I said Walmart does not manufacture insulin. They get it from the same manufacturers and only rebrand it.

 

[Andylusion]

After a hundred years on the market, I’m surprised insulin only has a few manufacturers and Walmart is their main customer

The price of a common lifesaving drug has been jacked up to where diabetics are rationing it

This is true and I'm against it. But Walmart has a lot of pull with manufacturers.

One of our customers manufactures for Walmart. They are constantly looking for places to process their parts because Walmart is always on their asses for lower prices.

We used to just drop a trailer in their dock, and pickup our empty, and head out of the place. Because of Walmart, they now make us check in, sign in, provide all kinds of useless information such as the trailer number we dropped. They also regulate that our customer cannot unload us if we don't drop the trailer and instead, wait to be unloaded. They demand that we either detach the trailer, or walk all the way back to the shipping office to wait inside.

I think it's ridiculous that a customer tell their vendors how they will operate their shipping department, but that's what happens when it comes to Walmart.

It is not real insulin there is no conspiracy and it is no cure for the problem. We need a national government that is not afraid of fighting with corrupt drug companies hospitals doctors and insurance companies you name it.

What a complete fool you are. Those corporations BUY their politicians who then do the bidding of those corporations.

And you want 5hem to do even more of that crap.

You are a super duper hater dupe.

I don't actually believe that corporations have nearly as much power over government as people suggest.

That said.... if they think they are going to form a government that is going to stick it to the corporations.... you are crazy. Every authoritarian government, that "sticks it to the corporations" ends up being in bed with all those corporations.

I do. For decades the Senator from Washington State was known as " the Senator from Boeing".

But see, you are pointing to a company with known government contracts.

Fighter jets need engines. So some company has to build it. That's how that works.

But when you look at the broader economy, I don't see any connection between what companies want, and what congress does, on a routine basis.

Most of the finance sector was against the CARD act. The CARD act still passed.
Most of the banking sector was against Frank-Dodd, and it still passed.
Most of the telcom sector was against Net Neutrality laws, and they still passed.

I see government passing laws and rules opposed by most of the companies all the time.

Obama Care was opposed by insurance companies, and corporate America.... it still passed.

And to say you know one guy that was "the Sanator from Boeing".... well what does that even mean? What if the Senator was simply in favor of policies that Boeing was in favor of?

Right now, I hold beliefs about policies that I wager many companies would support. If I decided to run for office, I still hold these beliefs.

If I got into office, it would not surprise me if many companies started donating to my campaign.

Does that mean that I'm owned by those corporations? Or maybe I already held these beliefs my whole life, and they started supporting me after I already had these beliefs?

Now I'm not saying you are wrong.... maybe you are right. But just because someone has policy views that gains him support from some company somewhere, does not to me, mean they are bought and owned.

And honestly, if you really think about.... every single policy throughout all of government.... has a corporate backer somewhere. If you support getting rid of fossil fuels.... there are tons of super wealthy corporations making wind turbines, that want to fund your campaign.

Name any policy by any person, that doesn't have someone in this economy that stands to make money on it. Good luck.

 

[daveman]

You're such a blissful fool. Who pays you to post this shit?

Which universe do you live in?

Who do you think is pulling profits off of our healthcare?
Why has insulin tripled in price?

Profiteers for the most part. And thg hey should be fried. However, the majority of costs are driven by mal practice insurance premiums and other operating costs dictated by government regs.

Want to see a massive drop in healthcare costs institute lower pays and punitive damages caps.

Of course the trial lawyer association will scream bloody murder if you do that.

What bullshit
Lawsuits protect patients. Removing the threat of lawsuits allows medical practitioners to trade off safety for profits

And what happens when all providers are government employees?

You can't sue the government without the government's permission.

Oh lefty don't care. That would be good for his paymaster pootin. Lefty has a hard on for pootin, don't yah know!

Indeed. The Left has been kissing Soviet ass for 70 years...the idea that any Republican would work with a would-be Soviet like Putin is absolutely ludicrous.

But the Useful Idiots sure ate it up, didn't they?

 

[daveman]

Which universe do you live in?

Who do you think is pulling profits off of our healthcare?
Why has insulin tripled in price?

Why? Because the makers of insulin made a dirty deal with Walmart, that's why.

What they did was sell insulin to Walmart for dirt cheap, and drastically increased prices to everybody else to make up the difference.

Walmart sells insulin for the same price as it was over 20 years ago. But like I said, it's two to three times more expensive everywhere else outside a Walmart subsidiary like Sam's Club.

After a hundred years on the market, I’m surprised insulin only has a few manufacturers and Walmart is their main customer

The price of a common lifesaving drug has been jacked up to where diabetics are rationing it

Insulin isn't a drug. It's a protein your body produces. It can't be created simply by whipping a few chemicals together. Previously it was purified from the pancreases of horses, and that process was even more expensive than the current process. The current method uses genetic engineering to alter yeast so it produces the protein. It is then purified from the yeast.

If the patent for the genetically engineered yeast is still in effect, then it's easy to understand why it's so expensive, but I believe that patent has expired. I use insulin, so I'm curious about the reason for the high price. At times it my insurance company has paid up to $600/mo for my insulin prescription.

If you use insulin, it's only $25.00 a vial at Walmart. That's why I only go there. However unless you have a prescription, they have a limit to four vials a visit to try and prevent black market sales.

I would read this article. It says that Walmart insulin it's not real insolence and not as good.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...DRA0&usg=AOvVaw20Fp0AGcNG-KopRxGm0sMl&ampcf=1

Vox?

Vox is the internet equivalent of toilet paper.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are Ponzi scheme that have been gobbling an ever larger percentage of our disposable income.

Is that your idea of "working?"

I call that Republican federal tax cuts causing payroll as well as state and local taxes to go up, which kills the Non rich. Google the only tax graph you need to know, super duper.

Federal tax cuts don't cause state and local taxes to go up. State and local governments are the cause.

They do it to make up for Less Federal Aid. Great job! No sacrifice for regular people is too great to keep the rich from paying their fair share super duper....

Thanks for admitting that they do it, and they don't get less federal aid.

For example, since Reagan we have been spending half as much on infrastructure and maintenance as before. You of course are clueless being a GOP voter...

You mean half of what we were spending during 8 years of Hussein and 8 years of Clinton?

Boy that Reagan had some power, didn't he?

 

[rightwinger]

Pretty sick shit

But what can be expected from Republicans

Lol right? It's almost as bad as when they made a fake head, covered it with blood and held a knife. To imply cutting her head off. Or just strait up shooting her while she is playing baseball.
Thank gawd almighty Democrats are above that.

Another lying piece of shit ABNORMAL...ABOVE IT MY ASS

Last I saw she Griffin was not running for political office as a Dem

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Pretty sick shit

But what can be expected from Republicans

Lol right? It's almost as bad as when they made a fake head, covered it with blood and held a knife. To imply cutting her head off. Or just strait up shooting her while she is playing baseball.
Thank gawd almighty Democrats are above that.

Another lying piece of shit ABNORMAL...ABOVE IT MY ASS

Last I saw she Griffin was not running for political office as a Dem

So that means she cannot promote violence? She's obviously not a Republican.

 

[The Purge]

Pretty sick shit

But what can be expected from Republicans

Lol right? It's almost as bad as when they made a fake head, covered it with blood and held a knife. To imply cutting her head off. Or just strait up shooting her while she is playing baseball.
Thank gawd almighty Democrats are above that.

Another lying piece of shit ABNORMAL...ABOVE IT MY ASS

Last I saw she Griffin was not running for political office as a Dem

Thank GOD We don't need a female Wrong winger.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Let me explain this to you RW.

If there was a bank where you could go and deposit a hundred dollar check, and withdraw three hundred dollars, wouldn't everybody love a bank like that?

The minuscule employer/ employee contributions to Medicare doesn't support the system. It's why it's going broke. Much of it is plain old government healthcare that taxpayers pay for through income tax collections.

My father laughs at his first major surgery, because he told me that surgery alone cost more money than he and his employers contributed to the system his entire life. He's had several other procedures since then and for course, continuing care.

Government only pays about 2/3 of the bill for their patients. The doctors and facilities make up those losses by increasing costs on everybody else. If we had Medicare for all, who is going to make up those losses? Nobody. That's why when you see health facilities close down, it's usually in poorer areas where there are few private pay or insurance paid patients. Nobody can stay open on what government gives them alone.

Don’t try to make me feel sorry for hospitals, drug companies, doctors and health insurance companies

They have the medical system by the throat

You're such a blissful fool. Who pays you to post this shit?

Which universe do you live in?

Who do you think is pulling profits off of our healthcare?
Why has insulin tripled in price?

Profiteers for the most part. And thg hey should be fried. However, the majority of costs are driven by mal practice insurance premiums and other operating costs dictated by government regs.

Want to see a massive drop in healthcare costs institute lower pays and punitive damages caps.

Of course the trial lawyer association will scream bloody murder if you do that.

What bullshit
Lawsuits protect patients. Removing the threat of lawsuits allows medical practitioners to trade off safety for profits

There is a balance. Egregious lawsuits stymie efficient high quality healthcare.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Don’t try to make me feel sorry for hospitals, drug companies, doctors and health insurance companies

They have the medical system by the throat

You're such a blissful fool. Who pays you to post this shit?

Which universe do you live in?

Who do you think is pulling profits off of our healthcare?
Why has insulin tripled in price?

Profiteers for the most part. And thg hey should be fried. However, the majority of costs are driven by mal practice insurance premiums and other operating costs dictated by government regs.

Want to see a massive drop in healthcare costs institute lower pays and punitive damages caps.

Of course the trial lawyer association will scream bloody murder if you do that.

What bullshit
Lawsuits protect patients. Removing the threat of lawsuits allows medical practitioners to trade off safety for profits

There is a balance. Egregious lawsuits stymie efficient high quality healthcare.

Among other things. I found this while reading the news this morning.

OxyContin maker Purdue Pharma files for bankruptcy following proposed agreement to settle opioid lawsuits

So thanks to government, the makers of oxycontin now have to file for bankruptcy thanks to lawsuits. And I'm sure it will lead to going out of business eventually. But the bigger issue is, how many people are going to suffer if they do?

Lawsuits are killing our healthcare industry among the many. Years ago when you went to see a doctor, he just took care of whatever problem you had. Today if you see your doctor for an ear ache, he or she sends you to a specialist to pass the potential liability to somebody else. At times you may have to see two or three different doctors for the single problem your family doctor used to take care of, and that really ups the cost of our insurance.

But what choices do they have?