The 77-year marriage between the US and Europe. Is divorce imminent?

[JoeB131]

Thanks for proving my point.

You didn't have a point, guy.
Why is it when you say something stupid, and someone proves you wrong, you say they were proving your point?

 

[JoeB131]

Beaten us? That is ridiculous.

Trump is desperately looking for an off ramp.

Iran will walk away, with the Mullahs still in charge, able to resume their quest for a bomb with impunity.

 

[SweetTea]

Um, most of the Eastern Block countries have joined NATO and the EU.

Here, let me help you out.

Here's a map of NATO..



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And here's a map of the EU

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Oh, and the UK is considering rejoining the EU because Trump is so completely batshit and has endangered their economy with his unnecessary war.

A new NATO may be in order. Let the Western EU countries figure out their own defense and the uproar from their spoiled populace as the freebees subside.

 

[SweetTea]

Trump is desperately looking for an off ramp.

Iran will walk away, with the Mullahs still in charge, able to resume their quest for a bomb with impunity.

Nope, won’t happen. They are far, far, far weaker than they were before and will not be have enrichment facilities. If we have to bomb them weekly to make sure that is the case, then so be it.

By the way, Trump goes in hard and TDS folks say he is a tyrant, he tries to negotiate, meaning he has to give in on certain things and he has TACO’ed. There is nothing he can do to make you people happy. Nothing.

 

[Hafar1014]

Not really.

In 2025, the US lost manufacturing jobs despite (or probably because of) Tariffs.
China's exports hit new levels as they moved into markets the US priced itself out of.

Thats called Bidenomincs which is now over

 

[Lisa558]

Nope, won’t happen. They are far, far, far weaker than they were before and will not be have enrichment facilities. If we have to bomb them weekly to make sure that is the case, then so be it.

By the way, Trump goes in hard and TDS folks say he is a tyrant, he tries to negotiate, meaning he has to give in on certain things and he has TACO’ed. There is nothing he can do to make you people happy. Nothing.

I still have him on ignore, but I bet he “blames” the Jews for de-nuking the Savage Islamic Terrorist Regime.

 

[1srelluc]

Trump is desperately looking for an off ramp.

Iran will walk away, with the Mullahs still in charge, able to resume their quest for a bomb with impunity.

One only has to look at you map to see where those against Mohamadism are.

 

[Hafar1014]

You didn't have a point, guy.
Why is it when you say something stupid, and someone proves you wrong, you say they were proving your point?

America doesnt need Europe Europe needs us

 

[rightwinger]

We've been subsidizing Western Europe's defence except Greece, Turkey, the Baltic states and Poland with trillions over the years. Spain, for example, pays 1.24% of GDP.

What I don’t get is if NATO countries are increasing their military spending, why aren’t we spending less?

Trump is increasing our Defense budget from $800 billion to $1.5 trillion

 

[rightwinger]

America doesnt need Europe Europe needs us

We need those bases in Europe to engage in our endless wars

 

[SweetTea]

What I don’t get is if NATO countries are increasing their military spending, why aren’t we spending less?

Trump is increasing our Defense budget from $800 billion to $1.5 trillion

Because we can’t depend on other NATO countries to defend us like they can depend on us to defend them. We are taking personal responsibility for our defense, as it should be. I know that is quite a foreign concept to lefties. When national defense is left to Democrats, China, Russia, et al start licking their chops, just as they are doing now as Western EU turns their backs on their primary defender.

Glad I could help.

 

[Blaster]

Western Europe's values don't align with the United States.

 

[Lesh]

We've been subsidizing Western Europe's defence except Greece, Turkey, the Baltic states and Poland with trillions over the years. Spain, for example, pays 1.24% of GDP.

We don’t pay them a dime stupid.

Not Spain. Not any of them

 

[JoeB131]

A new NATO may be in order. Let the Western EU countries figure out their own defense and the uproar from their spoiled populace as the freebees subside.

Most of the money we piss away on the Military Industrial Complex has nothing to do with Europe. I suspect Europe will start to realize how kind of useless the US is and make their own arrangements.

Nope, won’t happen. They are far, far, far weaker than they were before and will not be have enrichment facilities. If we have to bomb them weekly to make sure that is the case, then so be it.

So, how was blowing up that girls' school stopping them from enriching Uranium again?

By the way, Trump goes in hard and TDS folks say he is a tyrant, he tries to negotiate, meaning he has to give in on certain things and he has TACO’ed. There is nothing he can do to make you people happy. Nothing.

Sure, there's something he can do that would make me happy. When his fat ass keels over from a heart attack, I will be very happy that day. I suspect most of the country will be. (Even a lot of Republicans).

The problem is, Trump isn't driving the bus here, Bibi is. This is why Trump can't find the off-ramp. He negotiates a ceasefire, the Zionists immediately violate it, and the fighting starts all over again.

THIS WAR NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED TO START WITH! That Trump is fumbling between escalation and negotiation because the Iranians have figured out ways to completely screw us is his own damned fault.

 

[JoeB131]

America doesnt need Europe Europe needs us

Do they, though?

The US and the EU do $1.6 trillion in trade every year. (By way of comparison, the US and China do $800 billion in trade every year.)

 

[sparky]

I suspect Europe will start to realize how kind of useless the US is and make their own arrangements.

The OP vid lady describes them as freeloaders Joe

~S~

 

[JoeB131]

Because we can’t depend on other NATO countries to defend us like they can depend on us to defend them. We are taking personal responsibility for our defense, as it should be. I know that is quite a foreign concept to lefties. When national defense is left to Democrats, China, Russia, et al start licking their chops, just as they are doing now as Western EU turns their backs on their primary defender.

Glad I could help.

You aren't helping at all.

The thing is, Iran wasn't attacking Europe, and Trump's war on Iran is doing HARM to Europe.

Yesterday, the PM of Spain called on China to take a larger role in world affairs.

 

[SweetTea]

Most of the money we piss away on the Military Industrial Complex has nothing to do with Europe. I suspect Europe will start to realize how kind of useless the US is and make their own arrangements.

No, they won’t because their populace is too spoiled to sacrifice on national security.

So, how was blowing up that girls' school stopping them from enriching Uranium again?

Accidents happen. Could have been bad intel. We all know it was an accident because there was zero reason to do it otherwise.

THIS WAR NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED TO START WITH!

Iran threatened us by telling us they had stockpiles of 60% uranium. Sensible folks realize that a nuclear Iran would be a very bad thing for the ME and the world. Something had to be done. Obama’s nuclear deal was just a way for Iran to grift money and still over-enrich on the side, which is exactly what they were doing.

 

[Rawley]

We need those bases in Europe to engage in our endless wars

AS we found out with Iran, We don't.

 

[Lisa558]

Western Europe's values don't align with the United States.

I have a friend in London. She barely leaves her apartment - just to work, to the supermarket, and back home.

She is considering moving to America. It’s not as quite as bad here yet, since the Muslims haven’t invaded to the same extent,