The 4 Horseman of The Apocalypse are all Man Made Disasters

[Cougarbear]

I read them years ago.

I doubt it. You haven't even read the Bible. And, that which you have written you lack understanding.

 

[surada]

Yes, he was teaching things to come in the future to people in the present. But, that which was written by all the prophets and apostles is for us in our present. The Bible is the blueprint for the Church of Jesus Christ in any dispensation.

Nope. It was written for the new Christians of the first century. Futurism came out around the 1830s... About the time Joseph Smith invented the Mormons.

 

[surada]

I doubt it. You haven't even read the Bible. And, that which you have written you lack understanding.

I've read the Bible cover to cover six or seven times... Perhaps you're weak in history and archaeology.

 

[Cougarbear]

Nope. It was written for the new Christians of the first century. Futurism came out around the 1830s... About the time Joseph Smith invented the Mormons.

And you know this how??? By the way, you just gave a great commercial for Joseph Smith and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints that the heavens were closed and now God is speaking to us and guiding us in these the latter-days through prophets again. Understanding the mission of the Bible is one of those that was lost concerning prophecy and future events coming to pass in these the latter-days. Thank you Surada.

 

[Cougarbear]

I've read the Bible cover to cover six or seven times... Perhaps you're weak in history and archaeology.

Speed reading for sure! You missed a lot. In fact, most of the book. And, you have no concept for history and archaeology.

 

[Thors Provoni]

Smells like the hot breath of Beelzebub be blowing in this thread

 

[surada]

Speed reading for sure! You missed a lot. In fact, most of the book. And, you have no concept for history and archaeology.

The Darbyites went rogue right about the time Joseph Smith invented Mormon beliefs. None of that is in the Bible.

 

[Cougarbear]

The Darbyites went rogue right about the time Joseph Smith invented Mormon beliefs. None of that is in the Bible.

Once again, you can't defend your positions so you bring in phony resistance arguments. Want to try again to defend your positions? Or, do you just want to continue to look weak in your defense of your positions?
Matthew 16:28 by all standards requires logical reasoning to conclude that the Church (Kingdom of Heaven) must have to have been taken from the earth in order for it to be "restored." The Restoration of the Church and Gospel of Jesus Christ. I'll take my bow now.

 

[surada]

Once again, you can't defend your positions so you bring in phony resistance arguments. Want to try again to defend your positions? Or, do you just want to continue to look weak in your defense of your positions?
Matthew 16:28 by all standards requires logical reasoning to conclude that the Church (Kingdom of Heaven) must have to have been taken from the earth in order for it to be "restored." The Restoration of the Church and Gospel of Jesus Christ. I'll take my bow now.

Check out John Nelson Darby. He was another renegade.

 

[Cougarbear]

Check out John Nelson Darby. He was another renegade.

No need to check anyone out. I’ve defended my opinions and you have nothing to counter them with.

 

[surada]

No need to check anyone out. I’ve defended my opinions and you have nothing to counter them with.

By all standards Joseph Smith was a conman.

 

[fncceo]

Holy freakin' hell!

You guys have a truly depressing bible.

 

[Cougarbear]

By all standards Joseph Smith was a conman.

Why would a conman live in poverty and not deny his testimony of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost even at the peril of his life? See, conmen stop what they are doing once that happens or threatened with jail and then start up a new con. Joseph Smith did not. The same could be said of the witnesses of the Book of Mormon as well who never denounced their testimony and what they saw. Even those who left the Church and were at opposition to Joseph Smith. They weren't receiving any money either. So, there you are. Seems like maybe the real conman is Surada?

 

[themirrorthief]

Hatred is me not telling you that you are going to Hell for blaspheming God and calling Him a liar. Your sins are on your own head and not mine for you have been warned of the consequences of your iniquity.

with biden as president the four horsemen cant afford to feed their nags so they will be riding skateboards

 

[Donald H]

The World right now is looking for someone to step up to lead it. The United States used to fill that role. Someone more globally minded will fill the void. It is only a matter of time.

Yes, a big part of the world is looking for new direction, but it's very obvious on who has stepped up. It isn't just one new leader, it's an alliance of countries that intend to lead the world through the 21st. century, by non-military force.

It can be possible on account of the MAD deterrent!
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[surada]

Holy freakin' hell!

You guys have a truly depressing bible.

Fundamentalists are all about gloom and doom. They are reactionary against science and modernity.

 

[surada]

Why would a conman live in poverty and not deny his testimony of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost even at the peril of his life? See, conmen stop what they are doing once that happens or threatened with jail and then start up a new con. Joseph Smith did not. The same could be said of the witnesses of the Book of Mormon as well who never denounced their testimony and what they saw. Even those who left the Church and were at opposition to Joseph Smith. They weren't receiving any money either. So, there you are. Seems like maybe the real conman is Surada?

Didn't Joseph Smith claim Jesus came to the American continent in 33 AD?

 

[Cougarbear]

Didn't Joseph Smith claim Jesus came to the American continent in 33 AD?

No, God gave him that knowledge while he was translating the Plates of Gold and Brass into what we have now, The Book of Mormon. You can read it in The Third Book of Nephi starting at Chapter 9 and on. Remember when Jesus said in John 10:16, "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring (the Gospel to), and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd." The People of the America's are another sheep he has been teaching.

 

[surada]

I recently had reviewed some of the passages associated with The 4 Horseman of The Apocalypse and have come to the conclusion that though it is Jesus Christ in Heaven that breaks the seals releasing The Four Horseman, that these curses are entirely man made and caused by The Governments of The World as Manufactured Disasters Orchestrated to push us to The New World Order.


The horses all have riders, and the riders are human. The four curses could be accomplished by The Horses all on their own, but God places a rider upon each horse indicating that the catastrophes are man made. It's my belief that what occurs is that God begins to allow mankind to get what they want, and right now a large majority want a secular global government which they think will finally solve all the problems of humanity. The restrainer eventually moves out of the way. The horseman may be inspired by Satan, but they are human riders on the horses who drive the world towards The New World Order, and once arriving there what the results of maintaining such a New World Order will mean to Earth's inhabitants.

The NWO is from where The AntiChrist Kingdom arises. All of these things we hear about like Digital Currency CDBCs, Fertilizer Shortages, Food Riots starting to break out around the world, Pandemic LockDowns and Wars and Rumors of Wars are all man made and all orchestrated to get The World from Point A to Point B which The Elite call The Fourth Industrial Revolution. I like to call it The 4th Reich because that in the end is what they will emulate.

The World right now is looking for someone to step up to lead it. The United States used to fill that role. Someone more globally minded will fill the void. It is only a matter of time.

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Seal #1 White Horse

“And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts [the one that had the face of a lion] saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.” (Revelation 6:1,2, KJV, insertion mine)


Seal #2 Red Horse

“And when He had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast [the one that had the face of an ox] say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the Earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.” (Revelation 6:3,4, KJV, insertion mine)


Seal #3 Black Horse

“And when He had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast [the one having the face of a man] say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.” (Revelation 6:5,6, KJV, insertion mine)


Seal #4 Pale or Dappled Horse

“And when He had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast [the one that had the face of an eagle] say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the Earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the Earth.” (Revelation 6:7,8, KJV, insertion mine)

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They lived through that in the first century.

 

[luiza]

This attachment to a cult philosophy is at the root of the decline of the US .

Each of you has a different mad cap vision to prop you up
Talk about cherry picking , hallucinations and delusions .

You lot beat everything and make Monty Python come true every day and give us true believers endless humour in this otherwise unfunny life .