The 2020 Election: Is Common Sense Making a Comeback?

Who gets your vote in 2020?

  • Any Democrat candidate who wins the nomination

  • A Democrat if he/she is a common sense candidate

  • President Trump the Republican

  • President Trump who has earned a second term

  • President Trump the common sense candidate

  • Any Republican who wins the nomination

  • Any Republican who is a common sense candidate

  • Somebody else

  • I won't vote


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I think the elections were rigged. There is no way a man hated by his own party, most minorities, couldve have made it without outside help. Polls were right the election count wasnt. It is too much for the silent majority to be hidden, there was no such thing...I call it a silent minority of assholes that were ashamed to associate themselves with another asshole.
 
Robert Curry raised an interesting question in this short essay this week.
https://amgreatness.com/2019/07/03/is-common-sense-making-a-comeback/

He observed the glaring lack of common sense in the Democrat debates with Julian Castro advocating abortion rights for transgender women taking the top prize for the proposal demonstrating the least common sense. But as he sadly but accurately pointed out, whoever wins the Democrat nomination is unlikely to do so by promoting a common sense agenda, goals, objectives etc. (Personal note: common sense Democrats are being booed off stages almost everywhere.)

That is a sad commentary on our current political environment though probably many Democrats will not agree with it. But for conservatives, Curry is just stating the obvious and preaching to the choir.

The more interesting point he raised is that President Trump was/is clearly the common sense candidate. I concur with that. He isn't partisan. He is no ideologue. He can't be described as a conservative, libertarian, or right winger. But his vision, his goals, his objectives are all solidly rooted in common sense. What the problem actually is. What needs to happen to solve it.

But the question is, did America elect him mostly because he offered common sense that we were hungry for? Or did people vote mostly against what they saw as blatant obviousness of Clinton dishonesty and corruption mixed with lack of vision and promoting an unacceptable status quo?

If the vote was more against Hillary than for Trump, what will that bode for the 2020 election? Is there sufficient appreciation for what the President has accomplished to earn him sufficient votes to win next year? Or has America lost it to the point that they will vote for irrationality instead of common sense?

So where are you at this point?

Will you vote for President Trump because he is the Republican? Or because he is the common sense candidate? Or will you vote against him because he is Donald J. Trump? Or will you vote against him because he is on the Republican ticket? Or will you vote for any Democrat to prevent a Republican win? Or will you vote for somebody else for reasons not enumerated here?

Please explain your vote.

(Multiple choice on the poll and you can change your vote if you change your mind.)
If you think tRump is the "common sense candidate" you might need to look up the definition of "common sense".

Yep, billionaires always lack common sense don’t they?

Trump isn't a billionaire, he just plays one on TV. Best estimates are that's he's only worth about $350 million and he continues to lose money, BIGLY.
 
Robert Curry raised an interesting question in this short essay this week.
https://amgreatness.com/2019/07/03/is-common-sense-making-a-comeback/

He observed the glaring lack of common sense in the Democrat debates with Julian Castro advocating abortion rights for transgender women taking the top prize for the proposal demonstrating the least common sense. But as he sadly but accurately pointed out, whoever wins the Democrat nomination is unlikely to do so by promoting a common sense agenda, goals, objectives etc. (Personal note: common sense Democrats are being booed off stages almost everywhere.)

That is a sad commentary on our current political environment though probably many Democrats will not agree with it. But for conservatives, Curry is just stating the obvious and preaching to the choir.

The more interesting point he raised is that President Trump was/is clearly the common sense candidate. I concur with that. He isn't partisan. He is no ideologue. He can't be described as a conservative, libertarian, or right winger. But his vision, his goals, his objectives are all solidly rooted in common sense. What the problem actually is. What needs to happen to solve it.

But the question is, did America elect him mostly because he offered common sense that we were hungry for? Or did people vote mostly against what they saw as blatant obviousness of Clinton dishonesty and corruption mixed with lack of vision and promoting an unacceptable status quo?

If the vote was more against Hillary than for Trump, what will that bode for the 2020 election? Is there sufficient appreciation for what the President has accomplished to earn him sufficient votes to win next year? Or has America lost it to the point that they will vote for irrationality instead of common sense?

So where are you at this point?

Will you vote for President Trump because he is the Republican? Or because he is the common sense candidate? Or will you vote against him becausetu..

he is Donald J. Trump? Or will you vote against him because he is on the Republican ticket? Or will you vote for any Democrat to prevent a Republican win? Or will you vote for somebody else for reasons not enumerated here?

Please explain your vote.

(Multiple choice on the poll and you can change your vote if you change your mind.)
Donald Trump is arguably the most divisive, polaraizing, incompetent and courrupt person slithering on the surface of the planet.

I pray fervently that his political career ends soon and ends completely. We cannot bear four more years of his antics, his boorishness and is complete ineptitude.

That's pretty much where I stand. Good luck to you Trump supporters. One day the shadow will lift.

I accept that you hate the President personally for partisan reasons. I know you won't vote for President Trump in 2020. That is your right and I won't try to talk you out of it. But you would be hard put to put together an honest list of significant accomplishments of Barack Obama or George W. Bush in their entire eight years. But President Trump in 2-1/2 years has accomplished:

--Kick started a stalled, stagnant economy to an amazing degree.

--Trillions of dollars of operating and venture capital that had been sidelined here or sheltered overseas to protect it from Obama's oppressive policies have been put back into the economy that helped promote that kick start.

--Wages are rising comfortably without noticeable inflation for the first time in quite a while.

--People are going back to work and in spite of the retiring baby boomers now exiting the labor market in record numbers, the labor participation rate ticked up a bit last month. That is clear evidence that a lot of people who want and need jobs are finding them.

--People who were struggling with two or three jobs with little or no benefits are now able to secure permanent full time jobs with benefits. That is due to small business being relieved of the Obamacare mandate that forced them to either not expand their work forces or utilize only part time and/or temporary labor.

--Our allies who had been leeching off of us for years are starting to pay more of their fair share in return for the security we provide them.

--Bad trade deals that had been bleeding jobs and manufacturing capability from the USA are being renegotiated, and because of that, plus a more equitable tax policy and more reasonable regulation policies, more businesses are returning to the USA than are leaving. Our manufacturing base is increasing for the first time in a very long time.

--Unemployment is at record or near record levels not only overall, but for essentially every American demographic including black people, Hispanics, women, youth, the hard core unemployed, etc. etc. etc.

--Family wealth is increasing for the first time in a long time due to increased earnings and also due to home values increasing, again without significant inflation.

--We are negotiating with countries that are the most dangerous to the USA and/or their neighbors, militarily and/or economically and seeing progress, though slow, being made. Progress is being made in areas in which there was a lot of grumbling and blustering by previous administrations, but were otherwise ignored.

--We are energy independent which frees us from being held hostage by OPEC or anybody else.

If that is your definition of 'incompetent' I sure hope we get a whole bunch more of it.

That is just a pile of cow dung.

Trump has nothing to do with the current booming economy.
Do you honestly believe that without the efforts of Obama in 2015 and 2016. Miraculously the economy take off in 2017?

The booming economy was the results of Obama’s programs. Trump happened to be at right place at the right time.
If Hillary or Ron Paul or Ted Cruz or anybody won the presidency ......... The economy still be this good..... Its NOT because of an inept president Trump.

Trump is a total disgrace and make us the the talk of the town and a laughing stock.

Like energy independent you just mentioned. Did someone told you we should stop producing oil? Did someone told you we start producing oil? Bullcrap that takes years of investments before you can say we are totally independent........ It’s not because of Trump.
 
Robert Curry raised an interesting question in this short essay this week.
https://amgreatness.com/2019/07/03/is-common-sense-making-a-comeback/

He observed the glaring lack of common sense in the Democrat debates with Julian Castro advocating abortion rights for transgender women taking the top prize for the proposal demonstrating the least common sense. But as he sadly but accurately pointed out, whoever wins the Democrat nomination is unlikely to do so by promoting a common sense agenda, goals, objectives etc. (Personal note: common sense Democrats are being booed off stages almost everywhere.)

That is a sad commentary on our current political environment though probably many Democrats will not agree with it. But for conservatives, Curry is just stating the obvious and preaching to the choir.

The more interesting point he raised is that President Trump was/is clearly the common sense candidate. I concur with that. He isn't partisan. He is no ideologue. He can't be described as a conservative, libertarian, or right winger. But his vision, his goals, his objectives are all solidly rooted in common sense. What the problem actually is. What needs to happen to solve it.

But the question is, did America elect him mostly because he offered common sense that we were hungry for? Or did people vote mostly against what they saw as blatant obviousness of Clinton dishonesty and corruption mixed with lack of vision and promoting an unacceptable status quo?

If the vote was more against Hillary than for Trump, what will that bode for the 2020 election? Is there sufficient appreciation for what the President has accomplished to earn him sufficient votes to win next year? Or has America lost it to the point that they will vote for irrationality instead of common sense?

So where are you at this point?

Will you vote for President Trump because he is the Republican? Or because he is the common sense candidate? Or will you vote against him because he is Donald J. Trump? Or will you vote against him because he is on the Republican ticket? Or will you vote for any Democrat to prevent a Republican win? Or will you vote for somebody else for reasons not enumerated here?

Please explain your vote.

(Multiple choice on the poll and you can change your vote if you change your mind.)
If you think tRump is the "common sense candidate" you might need to look up the definition of "common sense".

Yep, billionaires always lack common sense don’t they?

Trump isn't a billionaire, he just plays one on TV. Best estimates are that's he's only worth about $350 million and he continues to lose money, BIGLY.

Yep, the rug munching, crazy Canadian cat lady with a blue Mohawk, nose piercings and neck tattoos says Trump is worth $350M so it’s true....Meanwhile, outside of LibTardia....
Donald Trump
 
You saw his tax return for 2005 didn’t you… Let’s go on what we know… Whatta ya say?
2005? How many bankruptcies has he filed since then?
/——/ None. Trump has never filed bankruptcy. Tanks for asking.
Lol, more than a few times.
/——/ Link
Why do you kids always want links for shit that is common knowledge?
The sky is blue. You don't need a damn link.
/——-/ Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy. That’s why I asked for a link knowing you couldn’t provide one. It’s like playing wack a mole with you libtards. BTW
Trump’s four corporate bankruptcies were Chapter 11 reorganizations (named for its location in federal bankruptcy code), which are designed to restructure businesses without shutting them down completely. The purpose is to "save" the business, as opposed to other forms of bankruptcy which would liquidate the company, said Michael Venditto, a partner at the ReedSmith law firm who has extensive experience with Chapter 11.
Fact-checking claims about Donald Trump's four bankruptcies
 
2005? How many bankruptcies has he filed since then?
/——/ None. Trump has never filed bankruptcy. Tanks for asking.
Lol, more than a few times.
/——/ Link
Why do you kids always want links for shit that is common knowledge?
The sky is blue. You don't need a damn link.
/——-/ Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy. That’s why I asked for a link knowing you couldn’t provide one. It’s like playing wack a mole with you libtards. BTW
Trump’s four corporate bankruptcies were Chapter 11 reorganizations (named for its location in federal bankruptcy code), which are designed to restructure businesses without shutting them down completely. The purpose is to "save" the business, as opposed to other forms of bankruptcy which would liquidate the company, said Michael Venditto, a partner at the ReedSmith law firm who has extensive experience with Chapter 11.
Fact-checking claims about Donald Trump's four bankruptcies
Don't be silly, those corporate bankruptcies are filed to protect his personal property from his business failures. They are his bankruptcies.

Stop defending the orange fool.
 
Who's in charge of defining what "common sense" means?

Is it the same person who's in charge of defining what "racism" and "socialism" mean?

Because if it is, holy crap, we're fucked!

And while I'm here, why isn't there a voting option for "It's 16 freaking months out, I don't know yet"?
.

Thomas Payne wrote in "Common Sense", perhaps the most influential publication leading up to the American Revolution:
. . .“Europe, and not England, is the parent country of America. This new world hath been the asylum for the persecuted lovers of civil and religious liberty from every part of Europe. Hither they have fled, not from the tender embraces of the mother, but from the cruelty of the monster; and it is so far true of England, that the same tyranny which drove the first emigrants from home, pursues their descendants still. . .​

Definition by Merriam-Webster:
Definition of common sense

: sound and prudent judgment based on a simple perception of the situation or facts

expanded commentary: "
Choose the Right Synonym for common sense
SENSE, COMMON SENSE, JUDGMENT, WISDOM mean ability to reach intelligent conclusions. SENSE implies a reliable ability to judge and decide with soundness, prudence, and intelligence. a choice showing good sense COMMON SENSEsuggests an average degree of such ability without sophistication or special knowledge. common sense tells me it's wrong JUDGMENT implies sense tempered and refined by experience, training, and maturity. they relied on her judgment for guidance WISDOM implies sense and judgment far above average. a leader of rare wisdom
"Sound" and "Prudent" are certainly subjective, especially regarding the issues that face us and possible actions we might take.

Two intelligent, reasonable and experienced people can (and do) disagree on what is sound and prudent in any given situation.

If a voter likes a candidate, they're going to tell themselves that their preference is based on common sense. What else are they going to say?
.

I don't judge them by what they say. I judge them by what they do. Common sense tells me that positive/beneficial results are what should be pursued and promoted rather than ineffective results/negative consequences.

President Trump's policies, regardless of what anybody thinks of him personally, are producing mostly positive and beneficial results for essentially every American demographics far more than any negatives that can be identified. And he accomplishes that by applying what most common sense Americans would count as common sense efforts and solutions. At least those who love America more than they hate Trump would count his results as due to common sense efforts and solutions.

Accomplished??? Like WHAAAAAT?

Dismantle EPA, retard can buy guns, more oil drilling for his buddies, getting closer to war, loving Kim and Putin, Putin puppet I can go on and on and on.

As far as I know Trump is the most disgusting, dishonest and corrupted POTUS ever.
Even President Carter called illegitimate president. Other countries called him inept etc etc etc etc.

1. And we disagree about that. I have seen no regulations rolled back or eliminated that have done any harm to anybody and those rolled back regulations are a significant reason we are enjoying such a good economy these days.

2. Jimmy Carter called him illegitimate because the Russians help him get elected, a concept that has now been thoroughly debunked and discredited by anybody but the most clueless and/or corrupt. Since I don't think Jimmy is corrupt, I think he is probably clueless and just losing it.

I accept that you hate him. The uber left, hyper partisan, snowflakes, and ideologically fanatic or what other categories fit into the TDS group all do. So don't vote for him.

If things do not significantly change, however, I will. I think most thoughtful, logical, reasonable Americans who love America more than they dislike or hate President Trump will vote for him.


I asked you for Trump accomplishments you gave me nothing.

1. Like what regulations that was rolled back that cause good economy these days????

2. Debunked by only Trump? Putin tape our democracy during election. Since your messiah won I’m sure you are happy with that.
 
I think the elections were rigged. There is no way a man hated by his own party, most minorities, couldve have made it without outside help. Polls were right the election count wasnt. It is too much for the silent majority to be hidden, there was no such thing...I call it a silent minority of assholes that were ashamed to associate themselves with another asshole.
/—-/ How did the outsiders make you change your vote from Hildabeast to Trump— or were you too smart for them?
 
/——/ None. Trump has never filed bankruptcy. Tanks for asking.
Lol, more than a few times.
/——/ Link
Why do you kids always want links for shit that is common knowledge?
The sky is blue. You don't need a damn link.

Cell block is playing dumb.
Yes, they think the "I'm a stupid republican" game is fun. I don't provide links common knowledge stuff no matter how stupid they act.

That is true. Actually that make him dumb asking for a link that is common knowledge.
 
Thomas Payne wrote in "Common Sense", perhaps the most influential publication leading up to the American Revolution:
. . .“Europe, and not England, is the parent country of America. This new world hath been the asylum for the persecuted lovers of civil and religious liberty from every part of Europe. Hither they have fled, not from the tender embraces of the mother, but from the cruelty of the monster; and it is so far true of England, that the same tyranny which drove the first emigrants from home, pursues their descendants still. . .​

Definition by Merriam-Webster:
Definition of common sense

: sound and prudent judgment based on a simple perception of the situation or facts

expanded commentary: "
Choose the Right Synonym for common sense
SENSE, COMMON SENSE, JUDGMENT, WISDOM mean ability to reach intelligent conclusions. SENSE implies a reliable ability to judge and decide with soundness, prudence, and intelligence. a choice showing good sense COMMON SENSEsuggests an average degree of such ability without sophistication or special knowledge. common sense tells me it's wrong JUDGMENT implies sense tempered and refined by experience, training, and maturity. they relied on her judgment for guidance WISDOM implies sense and judgment far above average. a leader of rare wisdom
"Sound" and "Prudent" are certainly subjective, especially regarding the issues that face us and possible actions we might take.

Two intelligent, reasonable and experienced people can (and do) disagree on what is sound and prudent in any given situation.

If a voter likes a candidate, they're going to tell themselves that their preference is based on common sense. What else are they going to say?
.

I don't judge them by what they say. I judge them by what they do. Common sense tells me that positive/beneficial results are what should be pursued and promoted rather than ineffective results/negative consequences.

President Trump's policies, regardless of what anybody thinks of him personally, are producing mostly positive and beneficial results for essentially every American demographics far more than any negatives that can be identified. And he accomplishes that by applying what most common sense Americans would count as common sense efforts and solutions. At least those who love America more than they hate Trump would count his results as due to common sense efforts and solutions.

Accomplished??? Like WHAAAAAT?

Dismantle EPA, retard can buy guns, more oil drilling for his buddies, getting closer to war, loving Kim and Putin, Putin puppet I can go on and on and on.

As far as I know Trump is the most disgusting, dishonest and corrupted POTUS ever.
Even President Carter called illegitimate president. Other countries called him inept etc etc etc etc.

1. And we disagree about that. I have seen no regulations rolled back or eliminated that have done any harm to anybody and those rolled back regulations are a significant reason we are enjoying such a good economy these days.

2. Jimmy Carter called him illegitimate because the Russians help him get elected, a concept that has now been thoroughly debunked and discredited by anybody but the most clueless and/or corrupt. Since I don't think Jimmy is corrupt, I think he is probably clueless and just losing it.

I accept that you hate him. The uber left, hyper partisan, snowflakes, and ideologically fanatic or what other categories fit into the TDS group all do. So don't vote for him.

If things do not significantly change, however, I will. I think most thoughtful, logical, reasonable Americans who love America more than they dislike or hate President Trump will vote for him.


I asked you for Trump accomplishments you gave me nothing.

1. Like what regulations that was rolled back that cause good economy these days????

2. Debunked by only Trump? Putin tape our democracy during election. Since your messiah won I’m sure you are happy with that.

Well you are obviously too lazy to read the thread or you would have seen numerous posts discussing his accomplishments including rolling back unhelpful and unnecessary regulations.

And I am going on the record as being too lazy to type all that out again for somebody who obviously will neither read it nor give it any honest consideration but will just offer a lot of other insulting talking points and code words instead of making an argument.

So I'll wish you a most pleasant evening and adieu.
 
/——/ None. Trump has never filed bankruptcy. Tanks for asking.
Lol, more than a few times.
/——/ Link
Why do you kids always want links for shit that is common knowledge?
The sky is blue. You don't need a damn link.
/——-/ Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy. That’s why I asked for a link knowing you couldn’t provide one. It’s like playing wack a mole with you libtards. BTW
Trump’s four corporate bankruptcies were Chapter 11 reorganizations (named for its location in federal bankruptcy code), which are designed to restructure businesses without shutting them down completely. The purpose is to "save" the business, as opposed to other forms of bankruptcy which would liquidate the company, said Michael Venditto, a partner at the ReedSmith law firm who has extensive experience with Chapter 11.
Fact-checking claims about Donald Trump's four bankruptcies
Don't be silly, those corporate bankruptcies are filed to protect his personal property from his business failures. They are his bankruptcies.

Stop defending the orange fool.
/—-/ The purpose of a corporation is to protect the owners personal property even if it goes belly up. Don’t you remember that from Business 101? Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha
 
I know this will just get blown off and probably provoke attacks on me, but I am NOT asking anybody to agree with the OP, but simply to comment on why you will vote for who you think you'll vote for come November 2020. And why.

If we could not make this one more thread to insult each other and/or recite assigned partisan rhetoric and talking points and catch phrases, it would be really appreciated.

For me, President Trump IS the common sense candidate. He lays out common sense goals and objectives whether or not those are politically expedient. And he has done a tremendous job of accomplishing many of those goals and objectives so far in the short 2-1/2 years he has had to do that. And he has done it in the most hostile environment and against the most vicious opposition against a President that I have ever witnessed in my lifetime. (And my lifetime is probably considerably longer than most of yours.)

I didn't vote for him because he was proper or elegant or politically correct or shared my ideological perspective. I certainly did not vote for him as a paragon of virtue or role model for children and grandchildren. I see him as a flawed person but a decent person who has sinned as we all have, and also a person who happens to have great ability and a noble sense of purpose.

I voted for him because he offered a vision that I could believe in, and laid out specific objectives to accomplish that vision that I could mostly agree with. Yes he has had to abandon Plan A and go on to Plan B or C or D or whatever now and then. Yes he has had misspeaks and missteps along the way. Sometimes I think he makes the wrong choice. All Presidents do from time to time. But overall, his job performance scores very well in accomplishing what he said he intended to do.

And because of that, unless something significantly changes, I fully plan to vote for him again next year.

Simple question.

Is Trump corrupt?

That is not a simple question. In my opinion, as President, no he hasn't been and he is not. In his personal life I don't know what he may or may not have done that some might interpret as 'corrupt' but unless it affects me and mine or America, it is none of my business.

It’s not your business?

It’s my business because it makes a big difference to me if my president is corrupt or honest. He can’t even show his tax returns. Just imagine if everyone does that?
 
"Sound" and "Prudent" are certainly subjective, especially regarding the issues that face us and possible actions we might take.

Two intelligent, reasonable and experienced people can (and do) disagree on what is sound and prudent in any given situation.

If a voter likes a candidate, they're going to tell themselves that their preference is based on common sense. What else are they going to say?
.

I don't judge them by what they say. I judge them by what they do. Common sense tells me that positive/beneficial results are what should be pursued and promoted rather than ineffective results/negative consequences.

President Trump's policies, regardless of what anybody thinks of him personally, are producing mostly positive and beneficial results for essentially every American demographics far more than any negatives that can be identified. And he accomplishes that by applying what most common sense Americans would count as common sense efforts and solutions. At least those who love America more than they hate Trump would count his results as due to common sense efforts and solutions.

Accomplished??? Like WHAAAAAT?

Dismantle EPA, retard can buy guns, more oil drilling for his buddies, getting closer to war, loving Kim and Putin, Putin puppet I can go on and on and on.

As far as I know Trump is the most disgusting, dishonest and corrupted POTUS ever.
Even President Carter called illegitimate president. Other countries called him inept etc etc etc etc.

1. And we disagree about that. I have seen no regulations rolled back or eliminated that have done any harm to anybody and those rolled back regulations are a significant reason we are enjoying such a good economy these days.

2. Jimmy Carter called him illegitimate because the Russians help him get elected, a concept that has now been thoroughly debunked and discredited by anybody but the most clueless and/or corrupt. Since I don't think Jimmy is corrupt, I think he is probably clueless and just losing it.

I accept that you hate him. The uber left, hyper partisan, snowflakes, and ideologically fanatic or what other categories fit into the TDS group all do. So don't vote for him.

If things do not significantly change, however, I will. I think most thoughtful, logical, reasonable Americans who love America more than they dislike or hate President Trump will vote for him.


I asked you for Trump accomplishments you gave me nothing.

1. Like what regulations that was rolled back that cause good economy these days????

2. Debunked by only Trump? Putin tape our democracy during election. Since your messiah won I’m sure you are happy with that.

Well you are obviously too lazy to read the thread or you would have seen numerous posts discussing his accomplishments including rolling back unhelpful and unnecessary regulations.

And I am going on the record as being too lazy to type all that out again for somebody who obviously will neither read it nor give it any honest consideration but will just offer a lot of other insulting talking points and code words instead of making an argument.

So I'll wish you a most pleasant evening and adieu.

This means that you are dishonest. I asked you simple question and asked you simple accomplishments...... You cannot provide me any.

I asked you what regulations that was rolled back that helps the economy....... You gave me nothing..... Now you are running away.

Like the oil independent that you gave Trump credits. That’s a totally bullshit ...... I just blasted you there.
 
Lol, more than a few times.
/——/ Link
Why do you kids always want links for shit that is common knowledge?
The sky is blue. You don't need a damn link.
/——-/ Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy. That’s why I asked for a link knowing you couldn’t provide one. It’s like playing wack a mole with you libtards. BTW
Trump’s four corporate bankruptcies were Chapter 11 reorganizations (named for its location in federal bankruptcy code), which are designed to restructure businesses without shutting them down completely. The purpose is to "save" the business, as opposed to other forms of bankruptcy which would liquidate the company, said Michael Venditto, a partner at the ReedSmith law firm who has extensive experience with Chapter 11.
Fact-checking claims about Donald Trump's four bankruptcies
Don't be silly, those corporate bankruptcies are filed to protect his personal property from his business failures. They are his bankruptcies.

Stop defending the orange fool.
/—-/ The purpose of a corporation is to protect the owners personal property even if it goes belly up. Don’t you remember that from Business 101? Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha

One question. Who file for bankruptcy on those properties? Let me answer it for you...... Trump.
So it doesn’t matter how you defined these and that turn it upside down and up ... ...... it’s own by Trump.
 
/——/ Link
Why do you kids always want links for shit that is common knowledge?
The sky is blue. You don't need a damn link.
/——-/ Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy. That’s why I asked for a link knowing you couldn’t provide one. It’s like playing wack a mole with you libtards. BTW
Trump’s four corporate bankruptcies were Chapter 11 reorganizations (named for its location in federal bankruptcy code), which are designed to restructure businesses without shutting them down completely. The purpose is to "save" the business, as opposed to other forms of bankruptcy which would liquidate the company, said Michael Venditto, a partner at the ReedSmith law firm who has extensive experience with Chapter 11.
Fact-checking claims about Donald Trump's four bankruptcies
Don't be silly, those corporate bankruptcies are filed to protect his personal property from his business failures. They are his bankruptcies.

Stop defending the orange fool.
/—-/ The purpose of a corporation is to protect the owners personal property even if it goes belly up. Don’t you remember that from Business 101? Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha

One question. Who file for bankruptcy on those properties? Let me answer it for you...... Trump.
So it doesn’t matter how you defined these and that turn it upside down and up ... ...... it’s own by Trump.
/——/ The corporations filed for bankruptcy you nincompoop, not Trump. You understanding of business is comical. Trump would file for personal bankruptcy, which he never did. Corporations are separate entities and they filed for Chapter 11 reorganization.
 
I know this will just get blown off and probably provoke attacks on me, but I am NOT asking anybody to agree with the OP, but simply to comment on why you will vote for who you think you'll vote for come November 2020. And why.

If we could not make this one more thread to insult each other and/or recite assigned partisan rhetoric and talking points and catch phrases, it would be really appreciated.

For me, President Trump IS the common sense candidate. He lays out common sense goals and objectives whether or not those are politically expedient. And he has done a tremendous job of accomplishing many of those goals and objectives so far in the short 2-1/2 years he has had to do that. And he has done it in the most hostile environment and against the most vicious opposition against a President that I have ever witnessed in my lifetime. (And my lifetime is probably considerably longer than most of yours.)

I didn't vote for him because he was proper or elegant or politically correct or shared my ideological perspective. I certainly did not vote for him as a paragon of virtue or role model for children and grandchildren. I see him as a flawed person but a decent person who has sinned as we all have, and also a person who happens to have great ability and a noble sense of purpose.

I voted for him because he offered a vision that I could believe in, and laid out specific objectives to accomplish that vision that I could mostly agree with. Yes he has had to abandon Plan A and go on to Plan B or C or D or whatever now and then. Yes he has had misspeaks and missteps along the way. Sometimes I think he makes the wrong choice. All Presidents do from time to time. But overall, his job performance scores very well in accomplishing what he said he intended to do.

And because of that, unless something significantly changes, I fully plan to vote for him again next year.

Simple question.

Is Trump corrupt?

That is not a simple question. In my opinion, as President, no he hasn't been and he is not. In his personal life I don't know what he may or may not have done that some might interpret as 'corrupt' but unless it affects me and mine or America, it is none of my business.

It’s not your business?

It’s my business because it makes a big difference to me if my president is corrupt or honest. He can’t even show his tax returns. Just imagine if everyone does that?
/——-/ Really? Because I recall libtards lecturing us that Bill Clinton’s personal sex life was none of our business and he could bang as many women he wanted as long as it didn’t affect his job.
 
Trump had NOTHING to do with the US Energy independence. Absolutely NOTHING. The USA started increasing production under Bush, and accelerated it greatly under Obama. Energy production under the Trump Administration has actually slowed.

Is U.S. Energy Independence In Sight?

I love how you fools just openly give Trump credit for the economy, and energy production.
 
Lol, more than a few times.
/——/ Link
Why do you kids always want links for shit that is common knowledge?
The sky is blue. You don't need a damn link.
/——-/ Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy. That’s why I asked for a link knowing you couldn’t provide one. It’s like playing wack a mole with you libtards. BTW
Trump’s four corporate bankruptcies were Chapter 11 reorganizations (named for its location in federal bankruptcy code), which are designed to restructure businesses without shutting them down completely. The purpose is to "save" the business, as opposed to other forms of bankruptcy which would liquidate the company, said Michael Venditto, a partner at the ReedSmith law firm who has extensive experience with Chapter 11.
Fact-checking claims about Donald Trump's four bankruptcies
Don't be silly, those corporate bankruptcies are filed to protect his personal property from his business failures. They are his bankruptcies.

Stop defending the orange fool.
/—-/ The purpose of a corporation is to protect the owners personal property even if it goes belly up. Don’t you remember that from Business 101? Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha
Duh. That's what I just said.

Claiming he didn't file bankruptcy is dishonest. He manifestly has. Many times.
 
There are 7 bankruptcies, including:

Taj Mahal Atlantic City, 1991
Trump Plaza, Atlantic City, 1992
Trump Castle, Atlantic City, 1992
Plaza Hotel, New York, 1992
Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts filed for bankruptcy, again in 2004
Trump Entertainment Resorts filed for bankruptcyin 2009; and
Trump Hotel, Toronto, in 2016.

These are also dozens of failed Trump businesses and projects - Trump Airlines, Trump Wine, Trump Steaks, Trump Vodka, and failed developments all over the world. All of his American properties are losing money except the three golf clubs on the east coast where he spends his weekends.

The reason the venerable Doral is being rented out to a strip club is that revenues are down 69%. Apparently the Club was very profitable until Trump was elected President and poisoned his own brand. The PGA pulled its tour event from Doral, and sales have slumped ever since.
 

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