In search of the source of trump's affection for Vlad.

[Crepitus]

Yes it is, both those things happened.

No. Hunter got no money, and it had nothing to do with Putin's pipeline anyway.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Look at the praise he has so often heaped on Putin, Xi and the fat Korean kid.

It's always about two things: Strength (and who knows what his definition of that is) and loyalty (everyone does what they're told or else). I think he looks at himself, Putin and Xi as co-rulers of the world. And that he'd stab them both in the back at the first chance.

He has a profound need to appear strong and feel protected/admired. His family has talked about this: It goes back to his lousy relationship with his awful father. Then the flock buys it because he makes THEM feel strong for being a part of this.

Wow. That's a super deep psychological analysis Mac & Cheese. You must be a head shrinker or something. Can you read tarot cards and cracks in people's palms. Super, duper impressed.

 

[jknowgood]

No. Hunter got no money, and it had nothing to do with Putin's pipeline anyway.

Hunter got paid, putin got his pipeline. Biden even went to the floor of the house and pleaded they vote to end the sanctions on the pipeline. The first president to do that, then putin had the money to start his war.

 

[berg80]

I know, after being all flexible with Putin, Obama finally gave in
and built the missile defense he tried to stall for so long.

Is that a purposeful mis-characterization of the series of events or are you too stupid to understand what they were?

 

[berg80]

Hunter got paid, putin got his pipeline. Biden even went to the floor of the house and pleaded they vote to end the sanctions on the pipeline. The first president to do that, then putin had the money to start his war.

It would be helpful if you show the sources of info you are relying on.

 

[Rawley]

Trump’s Affinity for Putin Grows More Consequential Than Ever

In early 2017, American intelligence agencies delivered an unequivocal judgment about why President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had ordered a sprawling effort to sabotage the recent American presidential election.

Mr. Putin wanted to cripple the faith Americans have in their own elections, they found, and to undermine a United States-led “liberal world order” that the Russians see as a threat to their security. As a way to achieve this goal, the assessment found, Russia worked to help Donald J. Trump win the election.

Eight years later, Mr. Trump sat in the Oval Office for a blustery meeting with President Voldymyr Zelensky of Ukraine and rendered, once again, his own judgment on that period. There was no Russian sabotage, just a “phony witch hunt” of which both he and Mr. Putin were victims.

“Let me tell you, Putin went through a hell of a lot with me,” he said.

The statement was a tell. The president sees common cause with Mr. Putin, a merging of interests forged through battles against those he believes are his and Mr. Putin’s mutual adversaries — including Democratic lawmakers, European leaders and a spectral “deep state” inside the U.S. government.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/08/...putin-grows-more-consequential-than-ever.html

Putin could not have chosen a more willing partner than trump to achieve his goal of undermining faith in our elections. Don started saying the 2016 election was rigged months before any votes were cast. Even after he won he claimed, without evidence, millions of votes for Hillary were fraudulent.

Trump also seems hellbent to see the US recede as the leader of the free world by taking a more isolationist approach to foreign policy.

In these ways he sees himself as being aligned with Putin, because he is. As evidenced by the shocking events at the 2018 Helsinki conference and his parroting of Russian talking points during the recent, now infamous, Oval Office meeting with Zelenskyy.

It's weird to have the POTUS find common ground with, and affection for, a murderous dictator, right? It will never be normal, but it's the new reality.

Psst, no one but you 16%ers are buying the Russia Russia Russia bullshit you guys are slinging

 

[Rawley]

Do you get a news feed straight from the Kremlin?

Dude, you're the one spreading Putin's propaganda.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Is that a purposeful mis-characterization of the series of events or are you too stupid to understand what they were?

Obama didn't stall, stall, stall missile defense?
What was he promising flexibility about?

 

[westwall]

Dictatorial policy like abiding by Ukraine's constitution?

Suspending elections and shuttering opposing political opponents isn't in their constitution, skippy.

 

[jknowgood]

It would be helpful if you show the sources of info you are relying on.

Not my fault you don't pay attention to what is going on. No wonder you thought Biden was a good president, you don't pay attention to the facts.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Trump’s Affinity for Putin Grows More Consequential Than Ever

In early 2017, American intelligence agencies delivered an unequivocal judgment about why President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had ordered a sprawling effort to sabotage the recent American presidential election.

Mr. Putin wanted to cripple the faith Americans have in their own elections, they found, and to undermine a United States-led “liberal world order” that the Russians see as a threat to their security. As a way to achieve this goal, the assessment found, Russia worked to help Donald J. Trump win the election.

Eight years later, Mr. Trump sat in the Oval Office for a blustery meeting with President Voldymyr Zelensky of Ukraine and rendered, once again, his own judgment on that period. There was no Russian sabotage, just a “phony witch hunt” of which both he and Mr. Putin were victims.

“Let me tell you, Putin went through a hell of a lot with me,” he said.

The statement was a tell. The president sees common cause with Mr. Putin, a merging of interests forged through battles against those he believes are his and Mr. Putin’s mutual adversaries — including Democratic lawmakers, European leaders and a spectral “deep state” inside the U.S. government.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/08/...putin-grows-more-consequential-than-ever.html

Putin could not have chosen a more willing partner than trump to achieve his goal of undermining faith in our elections. Don started saying the 2016 election was rigged months before any votes were cast. Even after he won he claimed, without evidence, millions of votes for Hillary were fraudulent.

Trump also seems hellbent to see the US recede as the leader of the free world by taking a more isolationist approach to foreign policy.

In these ways he sees himself as being aligned with Putin, because he is. As evidenced by the shocking events at the 2018 Helsinki conference and his parroting of Russian talking points during the recent, now infamous, Oval Office meeting with Zelenskyy.

It's weird to have the POTUS find common ground with, and affection for, a murderous dictator, right? It will never be normal, but it's the new reality.

Of course, it’s not weird for Trump to find common ground with, and affection for, a murderous dictator, despot, and war criminal; Trump himself is a wannabe despot and dictator who longs to be an authoritarian strongman where might makes right, with contempt for the Constitution and the rule of law.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

LMAO

Yeah, when was he elected again? What was the date and when was the next election supposedly to occur?

How about the state run media being lapdogs of his?

How many opponents of his policy are currently in jail?

I'll be you don't even know.

Piss off killer.

He’ll be elected again when the fascist war criminal Putin is driven out of Ukraine.

 

[berg80]

What was he promising flexibility about?

Google it.

 

[scruffy]

Trump’s Affinity for Putin Grows More Consequential Than Ever

In early 2017, American intelligence agencies delivered an unequivocal judgment about why President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had ordered a sprawling effort to sabotage the recent American presidential election.

Mr. Putin wanted to cripple the faith Americans have in their own elections, they found, and to undermine a United States-led “liberal world order” that the Russians see as a threat to their security. As a way to achieve this goal, the assessment found, Russia worked to help Donald J. Trump win the election.

Eight years later, Mr. Trump sat in the Oval Office for a blustery meeting with President Voldymyr Zelensky of Ukraine and rendered, once again, his own judgment on that period. There was no Russian sabotage, just a “phony witch hunt” of which both he and Mr. Putin were victims.

“Let me tell you, Putin went through a hell of a lot with me,” he said.

The statement was a tell. The president sees common cause with Mr. Putin, a merging of interests forged through battles against those he believes are his and Mr. Putin’s mutual adversaries — including Democratic lawmakers, European leaders and a spectral “deep state” inside the U.S. government.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/08/...putin-grows-more-consequential-than-ever.html

Putin could not have chosen a more willing partner than trump to achieve his goal of undermining faith in our elections. Don started saying the 2016 election was rigged months before any votes were cast. Even after he won he claimed, without evidence, millions of votes for Hillary were fraudulent.

Trump also seems hellbent to see the US recede as the leader of the free world by taking a more isolationist approach to foreign policy.

In these ways he sees himself as being aligned with Putin, because he is. As evidenced by the shocking events at the 2018 Helsinki conference and his parroting of Russian talking points during the recent, now infamous, Oval Office meeting with Zelenskyy.

It's weird to have the POTUS find common ground with, and affection for, a murderous dictator, right? It will never be normal, but it's the new reality.

Doofus, the Russia Russia bullshit doesn't work, and never did.

Haven't you idiots learned ANYTHING?

 

[berg80]

Not my fault you don't pay attention to what is going on. No wonder you thought Biden was a good president, you don't pay attention to the facts.

Translation; you have zero supporting evidence for your assertion.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Google it.

I'll give you a hint, he was promising not to build missile defense in Eastern Europe in 2012.

 

[Nostra]

Trump’s Affinity for Putin Grows More Consequential Than Ever

In early 2017, American intelligence agencies delivered an unequivocal judgment about why President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had ordered a sprawling effort to sabotage the recent American presidential election.

Mr. Putin wanted to cripple the faith Americans have in their own elections, they found, and to undermine a United States-led “liberal world order” that the Russians see as a threat to their security. As a way to achieve this goal, the assessment found, Russia worked to help Donald J. Trump win the election.

Eight years later, Mr. Trump sat in the Oval Office for a blustery meeting with President Voldymyr Zelensky of Ukraine and rendered, once again, his own judgment on that period. There was no Russian sabotage, just a “phony witch hunt” of which both he and Mr. Putin were victims.

“Let me tell you, Putin went through a hell of a lot with me,” he said.

The statement was a tell. The president sees common cause with Mr. Putin, a merging of interests forged through battles against those he believes are his and Mr. Putin’s mutual adversaries — including Democratic lawmakers, European leaders and a spectral “deep state” inside the U.S. government.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/08/...putin-grows-more-consequential-than-ever.html

Putin could not have chosen a more willing partner than trump to achieve his goal of undermining faith in our elections. Don started saying the 2016 election was rigged months before any votes were cast. Even after he won he claimed, without evidence, millions of votes for Hillary were fraudulent.

Trump also seems hellbent to see the US recede as the leader of the free world by taking a more isolationist approach to foreign policy.

In these ways he sees himself as being aligned with Putin, because he is. As evidenced by the shocking events at the 2018 Helsinki conference and his parroting of Russian talking points during the recent, now infamous, Oval Office meeting with Zelenskyy.

It's weird to have the POTUS find common ground with, and affection for, a murderous dictator, right? It will never be normal, but it's the new reality.

Try looking in your ass, cuz that’s where all this comes from, Simp.

 

[berg80]

Of course, it’s not weird for Trump to find common ground with, and affection for, a murderous dictator, despot, and war criminal; Trump himself is a wannabe despot and dictator who longs to be an authoritarian strongman where might makes right, with contempt for the Constitution and the rule of law.

When you think about the crimes he has gotten away with, and the laws he continues to break, coupled with his SC immunity ruling, he clearly feels he is above the law. And so far he's been right, except for the fraud and rape cases.

 

[berg80]

I'll give you a hint, he was promising not to build missile defense in Eastern Europe in 2012.

He made no such promise. Did the system get built?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

He made no such promise.

He said to Medvedev, tell Vlad to stop complaining about missile defense, I don't want to build it either, but I can't say that before the 2012 election. After the election, I'll have more flexibility to stop the building of missile defense in Eastern Europe.

It worked, the missile defense they were going to build in Poland never happened.

Did the system get built?

Not in Poland.
Where did it finally get built? What happened between 2012 and 2016?