The 100 Year War on Palestine

[georgephillip]

We were discussing the fact the UN, including most Arab nations, recognize Israel.

Who's "we"?
You made the claim "any fool can post on Wikipedia."

 

[georgephillip]

And speaking of agendas, you shouldn't expect anyone to blindly accept anything from the islsmist propaganda site 'Palestine Remembered'. As I'm sure you know, a read of the ''about'' section leaves one with the obvious knowledge that the site has a clear bias and one presumes that is where your silly, ''hysteric Palestine'' is taken from.

Which sources on this matter do you find credible?

 

[Hollie]

Wikipedia allows anyone to propose an edit to its material. If your knowledge of the Israel/Palestine conflict is as extensive as you imagine, why don't you help Wiki reveal the truth about it?

As you acknowledge, most anyone can edit wiki. I'll propose that copy and paste the "hysteric Palestine" references from the Palestine Remembered web site and I'll offer a follow up edit.

 

[Hollie]

Which sources on this matter do you find credible?

You seem obsessed with the "Jews control the world", syndrome. They do seem to control your every waking moment. Maybe a hobby would be helpful?

Why don't you first provide relevant examples of a "genocide" you seem to think is supported by something you copied and pasted? What evidence can you supply to support genocide is taking place?

As to the "apartheid" slogan, can you supply some relevant example of race-based discrimination that would... oh, I don't know... suggest that so-called "Palestinians" are a race?

Perhaps you could offer some relevant commentary on Israeli Arabs who have the same legal rights and privileges as anyone else who is an Israeli citizen.

Maybe you can contrast the above with Jews in Gaza'istan? Are there any?

 

[georgephillip]

As you acknowledge, most anyone can edit wiki. I'll propose that copy and paste the "hysteric Palestine" references from the Palestine Remembered web site and I'll offer a follow up edit.

Then what

 

[georgephillip]

As to the "apartheid" slogan, can you supply some relevant example of race-based discrimination that would... oh, I don't know... suggest that so-called "Palestinians" are a race?

Apartheid refers to a system of keeping groups of people separate and treating them differently; that is exactly how Jews treat non-Jews in historical Palestine regardless of any distinctive physical traits.

Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians: a cruel system of domination and a crime against humanity

"Israeli authorities must be held accountable for committing the crime of apartheid against Palestinians, Amnesty International said today in a damning new report.

"The investigation details how Israel enforces a system of oppression and domination against the Palestinian people wherever it has control over their rights.

"This includes Palestinians living in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT), as well as displaced refugees in other countries."

 

[Indeependent]

Who's "we"?
You made the claim "any fool can post on Wikipedia."

I mentioned the UN as fact and you countered with the fiction on Wikipedia.
Try to keep up.

 

[Hollie]

Apartheid refers to a system of keeping groups of people separate and treating them differently; that is exactly how Jews treat non-Jews in historical Palestine regardless of any distinctive physical traits.

Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians: a cruel system of domination and a crime against humanity

"Israeli authorities must be held accountable for committing the crime of apartheid against Palestinians, Amnesty International said today in a damning new report.

"The investigation details how Israel enforces a system of oppression and domination against the Palestinian people wherever it has control over their rights.

"This includes Palestinians living in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT), as well as displaced refugees in other countries."

Where, exactly, is this hysterical Palestine?

"Apartheid refers to a system of keeping groups of people separate and treating them differently;"

Interesting, but false definition of apartheid. If that's the one you choose to use, you didn't address the treatment of Jews in Gaza'istan.

Are there any Jews in Gaza'istan? If not, why not?

Where are these occupied Pally territories? I'm not aware of any territories held as sovereign by any pallys. How does anyone occupy territories sovereign to pallys if no such territories exist?

 

[Hollie]

Apartheid refers to a system of keeping groups of people separate and treating them differently; that is exactly how Jews treat non-Jews in historical Palestine regardless of any distinctive physical traits.

Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians: a cruel system of domination and a crime against humanity

"Israeli authorities must be held accountable for committing the crime of apartheid against Palestinians, Amnesty International said today in a damning new report.

"The investigation details how Israel enforces a system of oppression and domination against the Palestinian people wherever it has control over their rights.

"This includes Palestinians living in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT), as well as displaced refugees in other countries."

We Must Put an End To Palestinian Apartheid

In Israel, the world's only Jewish state, the rule of law treats all as equals.

www.google.com

But with much less fanfare, apartheid policies—policies that expressly favor Muslims over believers of all other religions—also pervade large swaths of the Islamic world. In fact, the so-called Palestinian territories represent one of the most blatant apartheid regimes operating in the world today.

Consider access to religious sites. In the Palestinian-controlled territories, Jews must sneak in under armed guard if they desire to worship at their own holy sites. Even outside of the Palestinian-controlled territories, Jewish holy sites are still unsafe. Late last year, an Israeli tour guide was murdered near the Temple Mount by a member of Hamas.

 

[Billo_Really]

You realize you are way past an age where you have to cave to peer pressure rather than facts.
You are as irrelevant as ever.

I didn't realize this thread was about me?

 

[Indeependent]

I didn't realize this thread was about me?

Just your posts.

 

[Billo_Really]

Just your posts.

Of coarse my posts are about me.

 

[Indeependent]

Of coarse my posts are about me.

List the countries you love.

 

[georgephillip]

"Apartheid refers to a system of keeping groups of people separate and treating them differently;"

Interesting, but false definition of apartheid. If that's the one you choose to use, you didn't address the treatment of Jews in Gaza'istan

Apartheid can be applied to different treatment for different groups as in the Jim Crow period in the US or the Nazi crimes in the Warsaw Ghetto.

Since Jews control the borders, coastal waters, airspace, and population registry of Gaza, any Jew who wondered into the largest open air prison on earth would deserve her fate.

Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians: a cruel system of domination and a crime against humanity

"Our report reveals the true extent of Israel’s apartheid regime.

"Whether they live in Gaza, East Jerusalem and the rest of the West Bank, or Israel itself, Palestinians are treated as an inferior racial group and systematically deprived of their rights.

"We found that Israel’s cruel policies of segregation, dispossession and exclusion across all territories under its control clearly amount to apartheid.

"The international community has an obligation to act."

 

[Hollie]

Apartheid can be applied to different treatment for different groups as in the Jim Crow period in the US or the Nazi crimes in the Warsaw Ghetto.

Since Jews control the borders, coastal waters, airspace, and population registry of Gaza, any Jew who wondered into the largest open air prison on earth would deserve her fate.

Israel’s apartheid against Palestinians: a cruel system of domination and a crime against humanity

"Our report reveals the true extent of Israel’s apartheid regime.

"Whether they live in Gaza, East Jerusalem and the rest of the West Bank, or Israel itself, Palestinians are treated as an inferior racial group and systematically deprived of their rights.

"We found that Israel’s cruel policies of segregation, dispossession and exclusion across all territories under its control clearly amount to apartheid.

"The international community has an obligation to act."

That was quite a copy and paste collection of snappy slogans.

Let's see what you can copy and paste to support the "cruel policies of segregation, dispossession and exclusion....",

What segregation? The is no segregation in Israel, but there is the territories controlled by the islamic terrorist Pallys. Wouldn't the exclusion of Jews from Gaza'istan be, you know, exclusionary?

What dispossession? What does that mean? If you're going to mindlessly copy and paste whike taking no responsibility for what you copy and paste, it puts you at a disadvantage. What is being disposed and from whom?

What exclusion? What does that mean? Are Arab citizens of Israel excluded from something? What would that be?

"Palestinian" isn't a race so why the need for a silly "racial" meme?

 

[Billo_Really]

List the countries you love.

I don't love any country. My allegiance is with the US, not Israel. Israelis can be loyal to Israel. Not me, I'm an American.

But I feel for the Palestinian's. All they want is freedom. For the occupation to be over.

 

[Indeependent]

I don't love any country. My allegiance is with the US, not Israel. Israelis can be loyal to Israel. Not me, I'm an American.

But I feel for the Palestinian's. All they want is freedom. For the occupation to be over.

Forget about the Palestinians and concentrate on the issues in the US.
The Palestinians have freedom.
The ones who are civilized can become anything they want to become.
Most Muslims in Muslim nations have no freedom unless they join a terrorist group.
You have been successfully groomed by the media to believe that these terrorists don’t have any interest besides Israel.
This is not the case as they want world domination and commit murder all over the world and then blame it on Israel.
You are quite gullible.
You should spend more of your energy complaining about why minorities are stuck in their slums.

 

[Billo_Really]

Forget about the Palestinians and concentrate on the issues in the US.
The Palestinians have freedom.
The ones who are civilized can become anything they want to become.
Most Muslims in Muslim nations have no freedom unless they join a terrorist group.
You have been successfully groomed by the media to believe that these terrorists don’t have any interest besides Israel.
This is not the case as they want world domination and commit murder all over the world and then blame it on Israel.
You are quite gullible.
You should spend more of your energy complaining about why minorities are stuck in their slums.

I am up on American issues. But the Palestinian's do not have the power of self determination. And to say they do, is a lie.

 

[Indeependent]

I am up on American issues. But the Palestinian's do not have the power of self determination. And to say they do, is a lie.

Of course they do.
Spend one generation becoming civilized and become a great nation.
They are like a slum but a slum does not have to remain a slum.
As you said, you are up on US issues but still think you know what’s going on elsewhere.

 

[Billo_Really]

Of course they do.
Spend one generation becoming civilized and become a great nation.
They are like a slum but a slum does not have to remain a slum.
As you said, you are up on US issues but still think you know what’s going on elsewhere.

No they don't! They can't fish or farm without getting shot at. Everyone in Gaza cannot leave without Israeli permission. If Palestinian's were free, then humanitarian aid vessels would be able to port in Gaza without Israeli intervention.