Texas Democrats flee the state to Illinois.

[Toddsterpatriot]

But the constitution hasn't been changed. Executive orders don't amend the constitution. Nor do social media posts. The 14th amendment still says 'counting the whole number of persons in each State'.

So you're still kinda stuck at square one on this.

Maybe the Supreme Court will find something in the penumbras?

 

[Skylar]

Maybe the Supreme Court will find something in the penumbras?

Possibly. This Supreme Court routinely treats precedent as 2-ply before wiping their ass with it. But the 14th amendment's plain language is clear as a bell. "counting the whole number of persons in each State".

Social media posts don't change that.

 

[jc456]

They'll be arrested and fined by the State of Texas, don't you worry, cupcake.

Nope, the warrants are civil warrants

 

[The Duke]

Possibly. This Supreme Court routinely treats precedent as 2-ply before wiping their ass with it. But the 14th amendment's plain language is clear as a bell. "counting the whole number of persons in each State".

Social media posts don't change that.

Illegal invaders do not count in that.
The 14th Amendment was written for Black Americans that were already here, and them only, you dishonest buttnugget!

 

[Skylar]

Illegal invaders do not count in that.

Illegal immigrants aren't people? And when has the Supreme Court found that illegal immigrants are 'illegal invaders'?

If you can just label someone to ignore the constitution, then remember than when Democrats are in office. You set the tune, you'll dance to it.

 

[Skylar]

Nope, the warrants are civil warrants

Civil warrants that have no jurisdiction outside of the State of Texas.

So what is the FBI using as their legal justification to hunt US citizens on US soil outside of Texas?

 

[Skylar]

They'll be arrested and fined by the State of Texas, don't you worry, cupcake.

The State of Texas doesn't have the authority to arrest anyone on a civil warrant outside of Texas.

 

[The Duke]

The State of Texas doesn't have the authority to arrest anyone on a civil warrant outside of Texas.

Well, they can't get paid and are being fined $500/day until they come back to Texas and do the job
the people elected them to do. Their seats will be vacated, watch. All legal.

 

[The Duke]

Civil warrants that have no jurisdiction outside of the State of Texas.

So what is the FBI using as their legal justification to hunt US citizens on US soil outside of Texas?

Supremacy Clause.
You know allowing invasion of the US by any government is against The Constitution, right?
Ofc you don't, you're a commie shill, on par with Mac and Glamping Goober.

 

[Skylar]

Well, they can't get paid and are being fined $500/day until they come back to Texas and do the job
the people elected them to do. Their seats will be vacated, watch. All legal.

The seats being vacated is highly unlikely and poorly thought through. As the very best that Abbott can hope for is to call a special election. Which will be expensive, delay the very vote he's trying to get through by months, and in all likelihood result in the re-election of the very people that were unseated.

This is political grandstanding. Abbott has very few options.

 

[Clipper]

I am shocked, just SHOCKED I tell you, to hear that two of our finest Citizens are paying for democrats to not do the jobs they were elected, and PAYED, to do.

Whatever will happen to us

Governor Abbott has stated that anyone giving or taking money to help the runaway Texas representatives is guilty of bribery. He makes a good case: Bribery is defined as giving money to induce an official to either take an action or not take an action.

Soros and "Beto" are paying the Democrats to flee the state and not vote on the redistricting bill. They wouldn't be able to do this without the bribe money, and all of them are too selfish to pay themselves for their absconding.

Ergo, the money paid to them is in fact a bribe to ensure they do not take an official action (voting) on public business.

We'll see if Governor Abbott follows through, or if left-wing judges decide to redefine bribery to grant Democrats a special exemption.

From the Texas Tribune: Content Warning For "SHOCK" ahead

The expenses are mounting fast for the more than 50 Democrats in the Texas House who left the state Sunday to prevent the Republican-controlled chamber from having enough members to conduct business. Most lawmakers traveled to the Chicago area by way of a private plane from CommuteAir. They are now on the hook for lodging, meals and the $500-a-day fines they will each accrue for every day of the special session they miss.

National Democratic organizations have been eager to pick up the tab for what they see as a last-ditch effort to stop a nationwide redistricting war that threatens to upend the 2026 midterms. O'Rourke's organization, armed with a $3.5 million war chest, has covered much of the costs so far -- including air transport, lodging and logistical support, a person involved with the fundraising said -- though other groups have been in the mix.

Texas Majority PAC, a group backed by Democratic megadonor George Soros and formed by alums of O'Rourke's 2022 gubernatorial bid, is coordinating with national Democratic groups to solicit fundraising from the party's regular big-dollar donors, according to two people with knowledge of the internal dynamics.

shocking

**** Abbott & the horse (LOL) he rode in on. He's a depraved lowlife, a Trump lackey, his lapdog who does what he's told because he's too much of a spineless coward to stand up to Trump.

It's a wonder that Trump's ball washer's like Abbott can sleep at night. Does he have to slither out of his chair when Trump comes a callin for another ass kissing?

 

[Skylar]

Supremacy Clause.
You know allowing invasion of the US by any government is against The Constitution, right?
Ofc you don't, you're a commie shill, on par with Mac and Glamping Goober.

What federal crime is the FBI investigating them for? Remember, there's no crime even being alleged here in Texas. And certainly no federal one. So how can the FBI call upon the Supremecy Doctrine, where there's no federal crime even suspected?

Think about what you're actually calling for and think about the implications; That the FBI can hunt US citizens on US soil for NO REASON, without any crime, criminal warrant, jurisdiction or even suspecting them of committing any crimes.

That's what MAGA wants? Jesus.

The Texas Supreme Court explicitly forbids the Texas government from applying any criminal charges to legislators leaving Texas.

 

[jc456]

**** Abbott & the horse (LOL) he rode in on. He's a depraved lowlife, a Trump lackey, his lapdog who does what he's told because he's too much of a spineless coward to stand up to Trump.

It's a wonder that Trump's ball washer's like Abbott can sleep at night. Does he have to slither out of his chair when Trump comes a callin for another ass kissing?

Gerrymandering legal

 

[Skylar]

The Duke Simply disliking a post doesn't magically make NO crime a federal crime.

What federal crime would the FBI be hunting these people for? What federal crime would the FBI be applying the Supremacy clause with?

Because you're trying to justify the FBI hunting US citizens on US Soil for NO REASON.

 

[The Duke]

The Duke Simply disliking a post doesn't magically make NO crime a federal crime.

What federal crime would the FBI be hunting these people for? What federal crime would the FBI be applying the Supremacy clause with?

Because you're trying to justify the FBI hunting US citizens on US Soil for NO REASON.

They're not involved in the enforcement aspect of this, you ******* shithead.
Texas State LEOs will be in charge of that.

 

[WEATHER53]

See children you can no longer tantrum at every opportunity

 

[WEATHER53]

The constitutions census counting requirement isn't limited to citizens. It specifically calls for all people to be counted. And lists folks who aren't citizens. The only people excluded from the census under the constitution are 'Indians not taxed'.

Persons of America but not just “in” America

 

[Skylar]

They're not involved in the enforcement aspect of this, you ******* shithead.
Texas State LEOs will be in charge of that.

If the FBI isn't enforcing laws, then what is their legal justification for HUNTING AMERICANS on American soil?

And what authority do Texas State LEOs have here? The civil warrants have no jurisdiction outside of Texas.

And every person we're talking about is outside of Texas. Texas LEO couldn't give these legislators a parking ticket. Let alone take them into custody. Texas LEOs literally have no authority here with zero jurisdiction, nor even a crime they can claim was committed.

Its pure political grandstanding. And using the FBI as a prop.

 

[The Duke]

If the FBI isn't enforcing laws, then what is their legal justification for HUNTING AMERICANS on American soil?

And what authority do Texas State LEOs have here? The civil warrants have no jurisdiction outside of Texas.

And every person we're talking about is outside of Texas. Texas LEO couldn't give these legislators a parking ticket. Let alone take them into custody. Texas LEOs literally have no authority here.

Are their rights being infringed, buttnugget? How?
Have they been detained? Questioned?
Wtf is your retarded ass on about, anyway?
These elected politicians are purposely not doing their jobs.
They should all be fired. The End.
They might could be charged with interstate travel to commit fraud.
Meh, that's a stretch. They have to go home sometime.

 

[WEATHER53]

**** Abbott & the horse (LOL) he rode in on. He's a depraved lowlife, a Trump lackey, his lapdog who does what he's told because he's too much of a spineless coward to stand up to Trump.

It's a wonder that Trump's ball washer's like Abbott can sleep at night. Does he have to slither out of his chair when Trump comes a callin for another ass kissing?

Tantrum days have ended