Texas Democrats flee the state to Illinois.

[struth]

By the GOP governor calling a special session to redraw the congressional districts to get more GOP seats in the US House.

Have you not been paying attention?

He didn’t call a special session to redistrict

 

[22lcidw]

Well, I'm sure the Trumpsters have no problems with this. How COULD they?

And the decay continues.

In Progressive states the Republicans get in the low forties in percentage of vote and yet Illinois has 14 out of 17 Representatives that are progressive Socialists. New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey and California the same way. You guys have already done this.

 

[candycorn]

Uh..no.
Gerrymandering has been a tactic from the beginning. All parties attempt to put their thumbs on the scale.

In the last 50 years, nobody has done it better than Karl Rove for the Republicans. He almost literally saved his party.

I personally think that we should get rid of the contiguous districts since they are drawn so absurdly. What you do is this:

Take the zip codes in a state. For the ease of math, lets say a state has 100 zip codes.

Then divide that by the number of districts. Again for the ease of math, lets say there are 10 districts.

So you divide the 100 zip codes into groups of 10 using population numbers.

Group A has the highest population zip codes. Group B has the 2nd highest population zip codes, Group C has the 3rd highest and so on.

So each district is assigned (at random) one zip code from group A, then one zip code from group B, then one zip code from group C etc...

You end up with 10 districts with roughly the same amount of people but they are not divided by race, income, profession, etc...

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And of course, politicians will find a way to game this system too. And there is nothing you can do about it. What makes this action by Texas so different is that it is coming 4 years after they redrew it map already this decade.

 

[candycorn]

He didn’t call a special session to redistrict

Here is an announcement from his office that says he did:

Governor Abbott Announces Special Session Agenda

gov.texas.gov

Time for you to throw a temper tantrum at being exposed as a liar...again.

 

[struth]

Here is an announcement from his office that says he did:

Governor Abbott Announces Special Session Agenda

gov.texas.gov

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Time for you to throw a temper tantrum at being exposed as a liar...again.

Dembot that’s a list of things he wanted addressed at the special session

He didn’t call for it

Time for you to wake up to reality and stop whining and lying

 

[Billiejeens]

Well..tit for tat, I guess. I really don't like the Gerrymandering that both sides do, I think it subverts the will of the people.
However, if one party is going to do it, you can believe the other one will.
At the end of the day, I think it's going to be a wash...with neither side gaining a lot of ground on the other.

California could slash 5 GOP US House seats to counter Texas' move to pad Republican margin

California Democrats are weighing new political maps that could slash five Republican-held House seats in the liberal-leaning state while bolstering Democratic incumbents in other battleground districts.

apnews.com

California Democrats are considering new political maps that could slash five Republican-held House seats in the liberal-leaning state while bolstering Democratic incumbents in other battleground districts.

The move comes in direct response to efforts by Texas Republicans to redraw House districts in order to strengthen the GOP hold on the chamber in 2026.

A draft plan that’s circulating aims to boost the Democratic margin to 48 of California’s 52 congressional seats, according to a source familiar with the plan who was not authorized to discuss it publicly. That’s up from the 43 seats the party now holds. It would need approval from lawmakers and voters, who may be skeptical to give it after handing redistricting power to an independent commission years ago.

In addition, the proposal would generously pad Democratic margins in districts for competitive seats anchored in Orange County, San Diego County and the Central Valley farm belt, giving Democrats a potential advantage as Texas Republicans try to sway the tissue-thin balance of the House.

According to the proposal, districts now held by Republican Reps. Ken Calvert, Darrell Issa, Kevin Kiley, David Valadao and Doug LaMalfa would see right-leaning voters shaved and Democratic voters boosted in a shift that would make it likely a left-leaning candidate would prevail in each race.

Is it the legally mandated time frame for California to redistrict?

In Texas it is.
What your echo chamber will never tell you is that in reality what the Texas Republicans are trying to do is more Un-gerrymandering previous gerrymandered districts

 

[Billiejeens]

Uh..no.
Gerrymandering has been a tactic from the beginning. All parties attempt to put their thumbs on the scale.

In the last 50 years, nobody has done it better than Karl Rove for the Republicans. He almost literally saved his party.

That is not even close to true.

 

[candycorn]

Dembot that’s a list of things he wanted addressed at the special session

He didn’t call for it

Time for you to wake up to reality and stop whining and lying

The Governor of Texas is the only one who can call a special session.

So you've been *****-slapped twice now...

Start your whining...

 

[Billiejeens]

Pritzker says redrawing Illinois district map "on the table" in response to Texas redistricting push​

It is already the single most gerrymandered map in the country.

But Echo Chamber Cultists will clap like trained monkeys.

 

[martybegan]

Well..tit for tat, I guess. I really don't like the Gerrymandering that both sides do, I think it subverts the will of the people.
However, if one party is going to do it, you can believe the other one will.
At the end of the day, I think it's going to be a wash...with neither side gaining a lot of ground on the other.

California could slash 5 GOP US House seats to counter Texas' move to pad Republican margin

California Democrats are weighing new political maps that could slash five Republican-held House seats in the liberal-leaning state while bolstering Democratic incumbents in other battleground districts.

apnews.com

California Democrats are considering new political maps that could slash five Republican-held House seats in the liberal-leaning state while bolstering Democratic incumbents in other battleground districts.

The move comes in direct response to efforts by Texas Republicans to redraw House districts in order to strengthen the GOP hold on the chamber in 2026.

A draft plan that’s circulating aims to boost the Democratic margin to 48 of California’s 52 congressional seats, according to a source familiar with the plan who was not authorized to discuss it publicly. That’s up from the 43 seats the party now holds. It would need approval from lawmakers and voters, who may be skeptical to give it after handing redistricting power to an independent commission years ago.

In addition, the proposal would generously pad Democratic margins in districts for competitive seats anchored in Orange County, San Diego County and the Central Valley farm belt, giving Democrats a potential advantage as Texas Republicans try to sway the tissue-thin balance of the House.

According to the proposal, districts now held by Republican Reps. Ken Calvert, Darrell Issa, Kevin Kiley, David Valadao and Doug LaMalfa would see right-leaning voters shaved and Democratic voters boosted in a shift that would make it likely a left-leaning candidate would prevail in each race.

California is already at a 60/40 dem/rep voter split with a 80/20 dem/rep house split. All Texas is doing is try to catch up.

Also, since Cali has an independent commission figure this stuff out, can said commission even be called at this time?

 

[ColonelAngus]

Republicans should do EVERYTHING they can to grow their Congressional majority.

Democrats opened the border to 20 million illegals to get a Congressional advantage. They want illegals included in the census. That is why there are sanctuary cities that break federal laws.

Dems will LITERALLY BREAK FEDERAL LAWS TO GET HOUSE SEATS.

WHAT IS ILLEGAL ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN STRATEGY?

 

[popscottpopscott]

Soooo. is this suppose to be something new?
California has already done this multiple times..
2011 Redistricting: After the 2010 Census... 2021 Redistricting: Following the 2020 Census... as California have pulled this off in the past it would be hard to imagine how they could make a better map than the last 2 times to benefit them.

Can Newsom redraw California’s Congressional maps? Here’s what the law actually says

Gov. Gavin Newsom is considering redrawing California’s congressional maps in response to Republican redistricting in Texas. But under California law, such a plan faces major legal and constitutional roadblocks.

californiatoday.com

Redistricting in California

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

 

[candycorn]

Is it the legally mandated time frame for California to redistrict?

In Texas it is.

Link please?

 

[candycorn]

Soooo. is this suppose to be something new?
California has already done this multiple times..
2011 Redistricting: After the 2010 Census... 2021 Redistricting: Following the 2020 Census... as California have pulled this off in the past it would be hard to imagine how they could make a better map than the last 2 times to benefit them.

Can Newsom redraw California’s Congressional maps? Here’s what the law actually says

Gov. Gavin Newsom is considering redrawing California’s congressional maps in response to Republican redistricting in Texas. But under California law, such a plan faces major legal and constitutional roadblocks.

californiatoday.com

Redistricting in California

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

Yes...after the census data comes out, each state re-draws districts.

Doing it in 2025 after you've done it in 2021 is the issue.

 

[martybegan]

Yes...after the census data comes out, each state re-draws districts.

Doing it in 2025 after you've done it in 2021 is the issue.

As per the Constitution, after the census each State HAS to review districts and re-draw when there is a change in # of districts per State due to the changes caused by the census.

Depending on State law, it's usually a minimum, not a limit.

 

[22lcidw]

It is evident that controlling the House is a major progressive agenda. They then go from there. They have surgically and purposely altered states with their infections. Near the whole Northeast region is Progressive dominated politically with New England socialist and heading towards communism. A third or so of their current senators come from there. It is free passage for Progressive politicians and any person who is pushed for position. Other areas of the nation are identically the same that Progressive influenced was promoted over a period of years. Even if many of the counties are not Progs. City areas control the politics.

 

[popscottpopscott]

as Texas did also... yet we are having a hissy fit all of a sudden
2021: After the 2020 Census, Texas redrew its maps again.

History

This is the official site for Texas Redistricting

redistricting.capitol.texas.gov

 

[Man With A Plan]

Well..tit for tat, I guess. I really don't like the Gerrymandering that both sides do, I think it subverts the will of the people.
However, if one party is going to do it, you can believe the other one will.
At the end of the day, I think it's going to be a wash...with neither side gaining a lot of ground on the other.

California could slash 5 GOP US House seats to counter Texas' move to pad Republican margin

California Democrats are weighing new political maps that could slash five Republican-held House seats in the liberal-leaning state while bolstering Democratic incumbents in other battleground districts.

apnews.com

California Democrats are considering new political maps that could slash five Republican-held House seats in the liberal-leaning state while bolstering Democratic incumbents in other battleground districts.

The move comes in direct response to efforts by Texas Republicans to redraw House districts in order to strengthen the GOP hold on the chamber in 2026.

A draft plan that’s circulating aims to boost the Democratic margin to 48 of California’s 52 congressional seats, according to a source familiar with the plan who was not authorized to discuss it publicly. That’s up from the 43 seats the party now holds. It would need approval from lawmakers and voters, who may be skeptical to give it after handing redistricting power to an independent commission years ago.

In addition, the proposal would generously pad Democratic margins in districts for competitive seats anchored in Orange County, San Diego County and the Central Valley farm belt, giving Democrats a potential advantage as Texas Republicans try to sway the tissue-thin balance of the House.

According to the proposal, districts now held by Republican Reps. Ken Calvert, Darrell Issa, Kevin Kiley, David Valadao and Doug LaMalfa would see right-leaning voters shaved and Democratic voters boosted in a shift that would make it likely a left-leaning candidate would prevail in each race.

Here's the potential problem with what Democrats are threatening to do in California. You're basically diluting districts that lean liberal to make races competitive in districts that traditionally lean conservative. But you're not increasing the number of liberal voters which means you're making more races competitive. I know politicians and I know that they want nothing to do with a race that they have to spend huge amounts of time and money to win and god forbid actually might lose. They like SAFE districts where they have huge margins! It's what keeps people like Nancy Pelosi in office for decades. I hate to break it to Democrats but their State isn't doing well. People that would normally vote for a Democrat without even thinking about it are unhappy with business as usual. The margins have been getting smaller. So good luck playing your games! You'll have nobody to blame but yourselves if California becomes competitive.

 

[Polishprince]

Well..tit for tat, I guess. I really don't like the Gerrymandering that both sides do, I think it subverts the will of the people.
However, if one party is going to do it, you can believe the other one will.
At the end of the day, I think it's going to be a wash...with neither side gaining a lot of ground on the other.

California could slash 5 GOP US House seats to counter Texas' move to pad Republican margin

California Democrats are weighing new political maps that could slash five Republican-held House seats in the liberal-leaning state while bolstering Democratic incumbents in other battleground districts.

apnews.com

California Democrats are considering new political maps that could slash five Republican-held House seats in the liberal-leaning state while bolstering Democratic incumbents in other battleground districts.

The move comes in direct response to efforts by Texas Republicans to redraw House districts in order to strengthen the GOP hold on the chamber in 2026.

A draft plan that’s circulating aims to boost the Democratic margin to 48 of California’s 52 congressional seats, according to a source familiar with the plan who was not authorized to discuss it publicly. That’s up from the 43 seats the party now holds. It would need approval from lawmakers and voters, who may be skeptical to give it after handing redistricting power to an independent commission years ago.

In addition, the proposal would generously pad Democratic margins in districts for competitive seats anchored in Orange County, San Diego County and the Central Valley farm belt, giving Democrats a potential advantage as Texas Republicans try to sway the tissue-thin balance of the House.

According to the proposal, districts now held by Republican Reps. Ken Calvert, Darrell Issa, Kevin Kiley, David Valadao and Doug LaMalfa would see right-leaning voters shaved and Democratic voters boosted in a shift that would make it likely a left-leaning candidate would prevail in each race.

Democrats have been manipulating Congressional District borders for many years.

In Pennsylvania, the Leftist controlled State Supreme Court changed the borders so the Dems could steal 3 seats.

 

[buckeye]

So each district is assigned (at random) one zip code from group A, then one zip code from group B, then one zip code from group C etc...

I imagine this is an outdated concept but the districts are supposed to represent the people, not random zip codes put together.