Teaching anal sex to 5th graders?

[Carla_Danger]

Chicago Parents Outraged Over Fifth Grade Sex Ed Class Teaching Age Appropriate Joys of Female Condoms Anal Sex Lube Scared Monkeys

"Parents got quite the eye-opening education this past Wednesday at the Andrew Jackson Language Academy, one of the city’s elite magnet schools. The school hosted a meeting on Chicago Public Schools’ newest sex ed curriculum to give parents a sneak peak at the upcoming sex-education curriculum that 10 and 11 year old Johnny and Suzie would be learning. To the parents shock, the binder they were provided of so-called age appropriate information included the benefits of female condoms for extending sex, increasing pleasure and encouraged using lubrication. Then there was the use of female condoms for anal sex. YIKES!!! My how the times have changed and not for the better. When one parent, Amy Miller, got a close look at what her daughter might learn she said,

“To tell my 5th-grader, who’s still into ‘Little House on the Prairie,’ that it’s OK to have safe anal sex — I’m sorry. That’s just not appropriate.”"

rest at link

I think this story has been debunked.

 

[Alex.]

Chicago Parents Outraged Over Fifth Grade Sex Ed Class Teaching Age Appropriate Joys of Female Condoms Anal Sex Lube Scared Monkeys

"Parents got quite the eye-opening education this past Wednesday at the Andrew Jackson Language Academy, one of the city’s elite magnet schools. The school hosted a meeting on Chicago Public Schools’ newest sex ed curriculum to give parents a sneak peak at the upcoming sex-education curriculum that 10 and 11 year old Johnny and Suzie would be learning. To the parents shock, the binder they were provided of so-called age appropriate information included the benefits of female condoms for extending sex, increasing pleasure and encouraged using lubrication. Then there was the use of female condoms for anal sex. YIKES!!! My how the times have changed and not for the better. When one parent, Amy Miller, got a close look at what her daughter might learn she said,

“To tell my 5th-grader, who’s still into ‘Little House on the Prairie,’ that it’s OK to have safe anal sex — I’m sorry. That’s just not appropriate.”"

rest at link

I think this story has been debunked.

It was an attempt to talk about "back door" sex through a back door news story. Total poop.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Chicago Parents Outraged Over Fifth Grade Sex Ed Class Teaching Age Appropriate Joys of Female Condoms Anal Sex Lube Scared Monkeys

"Parents got quite the eye-opening education this past Wednesday at the Andrew Jackson Language Academy, one of the city’s elite magnet schools. The school hosted a meeting on Chicago Public Schools’ newest sex ed curriculum to give parents a sneak peak at the upcoming sex-education curriculum that 10 and 11 year old Johnny and Suzie would be learning. To the parents shock, the binder they were provided of so-called age appropriate information included the benefits of female condoms for extending sex, increasing pleasure and encouraged using lubrication. Then there was the use of female condoms for anal sex. YIKES!!! My how the times have changed and not for the better. When one parent, Amy Miller, got a close look at what her daughter might learn she said,

“To tell my 5th-grader, who’s still into ‘Little House on the Prairie,’ that it’s OK to have safe anal sex — I’m sorry. That’s just not appropriate.”"

rest at link

I think this story has been debunked.

It was an attempt to talk about "back door" sex through a back door news story. Total poop.

If this story is the same for the video I watched several months ago, she was doing it wrong anyway. LOL!

 

[Alex.]

Chicago Parents Outraged Over Fifth Grade Sex Ed Class Teaching Age Appropriate Joys of Female Condoms Anal Sex Lube Scared Monkeys

"Parents got quite the eye-opening education this past Wednesday at the Andrew Jackson Language Academy, one of the city’s elite magnet schools. The school hosted a meeting on Chicago Public Schools’ newest sex ed curriculum to give parents a sneak peak at the upcoming sex-education curriculum that 10 and 11 year old Johnny and Suzie would be learning. To the parents shock, the binder they were provided of so-called age appropriate information included the benefits of female condoms for extending sex, increasing pleasure and encouraged using lubrication. Then there was the use of female condoms for anal sex. YIKES!!! My how the times have changed and not for the better. When one parent, Amy Miller, got a close look at what her daughter might learn she said,

“To tell my 5th-grader, who’s still into ‘Little House on the Prairie,’ that it’s OK to have safe anal sex — I’m sorry. That’s just not appropriate.”"

rest at link

I think this story has been debunked.

It was an attempt to talk about "back door" sex through a back door news story. Total poop.

If this story is the same for the video I watched several months ago, she was doing it wrong anyway. LOL!

I was taught how to use a blow torch not a butt torch

 

[ChrisL]

Chicago Parents Outraged Over Fifth Grade Sex Ed Class Teaching Age Appropriate Joys of Female Condoms Anal Sex Lube Scared Monkeys

"Parents got quite the eye-opening education this past Wednesday at the Andrew Jackson Language Academy, one of the city’s elite magnet schools. The school hosted a meeting on Chicago Public Schools’ newest sex ed curriculum to give parents a sneak peak at the upcoming sex-education curriculum that 10 and 11 year old Johnny and Suzie would be learning. To the parents shock, the binder they were provided of so-called age appropriate information included the benefits of female condoms for extending sex, increasing pleasure and encouraged using lubrication. Then there was the use of female condoms for anal sex. YIKES!!! My how the times have changed and not for the better. When one parent, Amy Miller, got a close look at what her daughter might learn she said,

“To tell my 5th-grader, who’s still into ‘Little House on the Prairie,’ that it’s OK to have safe anal sex — I’m sorry. That’s just not appropriate.”"

rest at link

I think this story has been debunked.

It was an attempt to talk about "back door" sex through a back door news story. Total poop.

Good one! Very clever!

 

[Flopper]

I don't understand how sex ed of this explicitness makes sense to children so far below the age of consent. If they're conceeding 10 year-olds are having sex then shouldn't they extend the romeo n juliet age exemptions to match? And if not, how are they justifying the education to those who can't have sex? Be like giving driving lessons to 10 year-olds. Can't drive until 16 but just in case. And if a 10 year-old then has sex with another 10 year-old, is the fact they received this sort of explicit sex ed at school legally responsible for perpetuating the notion it's okay? The kid's gonna get arrested if anyone finds out and be charged with a sex crime. The partner be enrolled in some kind of rape victim counselling. Screwing both up for something they learned about in school. How does that make any sense?

I think the point is to keep govt out of education
where people, parent and communities can make their own decisions
as locally as possible.

Now if people AGREE on a district wide plan for teaching
* sex education
* creation or evolution
* prayer or religious diversity
* etc.
then okay, sure you can have a standard policy for a whole school system.

if not, maybe there is wisdom in keeping personal issues for
people to teach their kids personally.

If we didn't take that responsibility AWAY from parents, and try to give it to the public schools,
we wouldn't HAVE this problem. Nor similar problems with what to teach or not to teach about religious issues.

Families need to agree FIRST, then build the school curricula
where it reflects consent of that community funding it.

Somehow we screwed up and lost touch by funding it globally,
then going back and arguing over differences that come up
because communities and families have diverse beliefs.

Then why did you create a blanket system trying to make it all the same?

All these cases bring up the suppressed conflicts
which are the reason people opposed govt running schools and public programs,
because the people HAVE diverse beliefs
and you can't force views on one group or another through govt policies.

We need to localize and individualize to protect all interests views and beliefs equally.

Sex education is just one area,
but science also brings up creation, evolution, global warming, etc.

We needed reform a long time ago, but didn't notice it because the conflicts were suppressed.
they are coming out now, but the differences were always there.
that's why you don't try to legislate the same policies through govt across the board for all people.

Duh.

We teach sex education in schools because parents don't. Most parents don't know what to tell their kids about sex, when to tell them or how to tell them. Over half the teens in the country say there are uncomfortable discussing sex with their parents and no wonder. Most parents avoid the more uncomfortable and technical aspects of sex education and concentrate on all the don'ts.. Schools are successful teaching kids sex because because they approached sex education like other subjects and leave the morality lesson to parents..

Kids are going to make decisions about sexual behavior with or without sex education. However, they are far more likely to make the right decisions if they are armed with knowledge. .

 

[I.P.Freely]

Yeah, I don't think too many 5th graders are having anal sex. Lol.

According to an American survey in 2006, School girls who take the pledge of abstinence are 4 times more likely to take it up the chutney locker than those who dont. Amen

 

[ChrisL]

Yeah, I don't think too many 5th graders are having anal sex. Lol.

According to an American survey in 2006, School girls who take the pledge of abstinence are 4 times more likely to take it up the chutney locker than those who dont. Amen

??? I don't understand your point. Most 5th graders are not sexually active, regardless of any pledge. A lot of them haven't even reached puberty yet.

 

[Iceweasel]

We teach sex education in schools because parents don't. Most parents don't know what to tell their kids about sex, when to tell them or how to tell them. Over half the teens in the country say there are uncomfortable discussing sex with their parents and no wonder. Most parents avoid the more uncomfortable and technical aspects of sex education and concentrate on all the don'ts.. Schools are successful teaching kids sex because because they approached sex education like other subjects and leave the morality lesson to parents..

Kids are going to make decisions about sexual behavior with or without sex education. However, they are far more likely to make the right decisions if they are armed with knowledge.

I don't know anyone opposed to sex education in general. It's what and how it's taught. If they are teaching kids that anal sex is perfectly normal then they are wrong. If they teach them same genders together are perfectly normal, they are wrong. In other words, it's the moralizing that you pretend to object to that's the problem for many parents.

What kind of details do you feel 5th graders need? How females can get pregnant, STDs and the life altering event of having a child should be taught. That's about all we got in high school. I didn't need to learn how to take it up the ass or what the selection of adult toys were.

 

[Flopper]

We teach sex education in schools because parents don't. Most parents don't know what to tell their kids about sex, when to tell them or how to tell them. Over half the teens in the country say there are uncomfortable discussing sex with their parents and no wonder. Most parents avoid the more uncomfortable and technical aspects of sex education and concentrate on all the don'ts.. Schools are successful teaching kids sex because because they approached sex education like other subjects and leave the morality lesson to parents..

Kids are going to make decisions about sexual behavior with or without sex education. However, they are far more likely to make the right decisions if they are armed with knowledge.

I don't know anyone opposed to sex education in general. It's what and how it's taught. If they are teaching kids that anal sex is perfectly normal then they are wrong. If they teach them same genders together are perfectly normal, they are wrong. In other words, it's the moralizing that you pretend to object to that's the problem for many parents.

What kind of details do you feel 5th graders need? How females can get pregnant, STDs and the life altering event of having a child should be taught. That's about all we got in high school. I didn't need to learn how to take it up the ass or what the selection of adult toys were.

There is no aspect of sex that children should not be taught as long as it's age appropriate and presented properly. Sex education should begin at an early age. The old birds and bees talk that parents put off till puberty is the wrong approach. Sex education should begin early in life and continue through high school.

The following is a model elementary school curriculum developed by the Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United State founded in 1964. Many schools use this curriculum, emphasizing some parts and de-emphasizing others.

Curriculum Outline

This curriculum is focused on four broad areas:

1. Providing accurate and appropriate information about sexuality;
2. Giving students opportunities to develop their attitudes, values and beliefs about sexuality;
3. Helping students develop relationships and interpersonal skills; and
4. Providing students instruction and practice in developing personal and sexual responsibility.

More detailed guidelines for developing this curriculum can be found at the SIECUS web site: http://www.siecus.org/pubs/guidelines/guidelines.pdf

Day One: Human Development

1. • Reproductive Anatomy and Physiology
   1. Names of body parts
   2. Differences between boys and girls – including respect for all genders
   • Reproduction
   1. General physiology of reproduction – male and female required, intercourse, baby grows in uterus
   2. Puberty and body changes – no pregnancy before puberty
   3. Pregnancy and birth
   • Body Image
   1. Value of differences – male/female, shapes, sizes, colors, disabilities, etc.
   2. Pride in and appreciation of one’s body
   • Sexual Identity and Orientation
   1. Gender – boys/girls and men/women
   2. Homosexuality and heterosexuality and appropriate labels (gay men and lesbians)
   3. Respect for all sexual orientations

Day Two: Relationships

1. Families
   1. Different kinds of families
   2. Change over time (roles, structure, new babies, etc.)
   3. Role of families: taking care of each other, developing rules, loving each other
2. Friendship
   1. Components of friendship
   2. Sharing, hurting and forgiving feelings
   3. Different structures of friendships – gender, age
3. Love
   1. Importance of showing and sharing love
   2. Different ways to show love (family, friends, etc.)
4. Dating
   1. Definition of dating
   2. People who date: teenagers, unmarried adults, single parents
5. Marriage and Lifetime Commitments
   1. Reasons for marriage
   2. Marriage for a lifetime
   3. Divorce; reasons and difficulties of divorce
6. Raising Children
   1. Reasons for having children
   2. Raising children is for adults – effort, commitment
   3. Adoption

Day Two continued: Personal Skills

1. Values
   1. Definition
   2. We all have different values
2. Decision-making
   1. Examples of decisions we make, others make
   2. Developing our skills in decision-making
   3. Getting help in making decisions
3. Communication
   1. Verbal and nonverbal communication
   2. Importance of communication
4. Assertiveness
   1. Importance of sharing your feelings
   2. Personal rights and telling people what you want
   3. Parents sometimes override your rights
5. Looking for Help
   1. Who to ask for help: parents first
   2. If parents can’t help: teacher, counselor, minister, friends’ parents

Day Three: Sexual Behavior

1. Sexuality Throughout Life
   1. Bodies feel good
   2. Body curiosity is normal
2. Masturbation
   1. Definition
   2. Boys and girls masturbate
   3. Private (not secret) activity
3. Shared Sexual Behavior
   1. Touching, hugging, kissing, sexual behavior
   2. To show love and share pleasure
4. Human Sexual Response
   1. Normal, healthy for people to enjoy
   2. Boys’ and girls’ bodies are more alike than different

Day Three continued: Sexual Health

1. Contraception & Abortion
   1. Wanted and unwanted pregnancies
   2. The choice to have children is up to the people involved
2. STDs and HIV
   1. Definition and causes (bacteria or viruses)
   2. Ways of getting STDs
   3. Ways you cannot get STDs
3. Sexual Abuse
   1. Body rights
   2. Good touch/bad touch
   3. Appropriate & inappropriate nudity
   4. What to do if you feel abused or afraid -- tell a trusted adult
   5. Never the fault of the child
   6. Both boys and girls can be abused
4. Reproductive and Genital Health
   1. Keeping your genitals healthy -- washing, doctor visits
   2. Healthy & unhealthy behavior during pregnancy -- drugs/smoking, etc.

Day Four: Society and Culture

1. Gender Roles
   1. Boys and girls -- similarities and differences
   2. Parents’ roles
   3. Expectations of boys vs. girls
2. Sexuality and Religion
   1. Religion sometimes has opinions on sexuality
   2. Differences in religion and values -- some similar, some different
3. Diversity
   1. Why talking about differences is important
   2. Stereotypes
   3. Discrimination -- all people should be treated fair and equal
4. Sexuality and the Media
   1. Truth vs. fiction about sexuality on TV/movies/Internet
   2. Age appropriateness
   3. Commercials

 

[Iceweasel]

We teach sex education in schools because parents don't. Most parents don't know what to tell their kids about sex, when to tell them or how to tell them. Over half the teens in the country say there are uncomfortable discussing sex with their parents and no wonder. Most parents avoid the more uncomfortable and technical aspects of sex education and concentrate on all the don'ts.. Schools are successful teaching kids sex because because they approached sex education like other subjects and leave the morality lesson to parents..

Kids are going to make decisions about sexual behavior with or without sex education. However, they are far more likely to make the right decisions if they are armed with knowledge.

I don't know anyone opposed to sex education in general. It's what and how it's taught. If they are teaching kids that anal sex is perfectly normal then they are wrong. If they teach them same genders together are perfectly normal, they are wrong. In other words, it's the moralizing that you pretend to object to that's the problem for many parents.

What kind of details do you feel 5th graders need? How females can get pregnant, STDs and the life altering event of having a child should be taught. That's about all we got in high school. I didn't need to learn how to take it up the ass or what the selection of adult toys were.

There is no aspect of sex that children should not be taught as long as it's age appropriate and presented properly. Sex education should begin at an early age. The old birds and bees talk that parents put off till puberty is the wrong approach. Sex education should begin early in life and continue through high school.

The following is a model elementary school curriculum developed by the Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United State founded in 1964. Many schools use this curriculum, emphasizing some parts and de-emphasizing others.

Curriculum Outline

This curriculum is focused on four broad areas:

1. Providing accurate and appropriate information about sexuality;
2. Giving students opportunities to develop their attitudes, values and beliefs about sexuality;
3. Helping students develop relationships and interpersonal skills; and
4. Providing students instruction and practice in developing personal and sexual responsibility.

More detailed guidelines for developing this curriculum can be found at the SIECUS web site: http://www.siecus.org/pubs/guidelines/guidelines.pdf

Day One: Human Development

1. • Reproductive Anatomy and Physiology
   1. Names of body parts
   2. Differences between boys and girls – including respect for all genders
   • Reproduction
   1. General physiology of reproduction – male and female required, intercourse, baby grows in uterus
   2. Puberty and body changes – no pregnancy before puberty
   3. Pregnancy and birth
   • Body Image
   1. Value of differences – male/female, shapes, sizes, colors, disabilities, etc.
   2. Pride in and appreciation of one’s body
   • Sexual Identity and Orientation
   1. Gender – boys/girls and men/women
   2. Homosexuality and heterosexuality and appropriate labels (gay men and lesbians)
   3. Respect for all sexual orientations

Day Two: Relationships

1. Families
   1. Different kinds of families
   2. Change over time (roles, structure, new babies, etc.)
   3. Role of families: taking care of each other, developing rules, loving each other
2. Friendship
   1. Components of friendship
   2. Sharing, hurting and forgiving feelings
   3. Different structures of friendships – gender, age
3. Love
   1. Importance of showing and sharing love
   2. Different ways to show love (family, friends, etc.)
4. Dating
   1. Definition of dating
   2. People who date: teenagers, unmarried adults, single parents
5. Marriage and Lifetime Commitments
   1. Reasons for marriage
   2. Marriage for a lifetime
   3. Divorce; reasons and difficulties of divorce
6. Raising Children
   1. Reasons for having children
   2. Raising children is for adults – effort, commitment
   3. Adoption

Day Two continued: Personal Skills

1. Values
   1. Definition
   2. We all have different values
2. Decision-making
   1. Examples of decisions we make, others make
   2. Developing our skills in decision-making
   3. Getting help in making decisions
3. Communication
   1. Verbal and nonverbal communication
   2. Importance of communication
4. Assertiveness
   1. Importance of sharing your feelings
   2. Personal rights and telling people what you want
   3. Parents sometimes override your rights
5. Looking for Help
   1. Who to ask for help: parents first
   2. If parents can’t help: teacher, counselor, minister, friends’ parents

Day Three: Sexual Behavior

1. Sexuality Throughout Life
   1. Bodies feel good
   2. Body curiosity is normal
2. Masturbation
   1. Definition
   2. Boys and girls masturbate
   3. Private (not secret) activity
3. Shared Sexual Behavior
   1. Touching, hugging, kissing, sexual behavior
   2. To show love and share pleasure
4. Human Sexual Response
   1. Normal, healthy for people to enjoy
   2. Boys’ and girls’ bodies are more alike than different

Day Three continued: Sexual Health

1. Contraception & Abortion
   1. Wanted and unwanted pregnancies
   2. The choice to have children is up to the people involved
2. STDs and HIV
   1. Definition and causes (bacteria or viruses)
   2. Ways of getting STDs
   3. Ways you cannot get STDs
3. Sexual Abuse
   1. Body rights
   2. Good touch/bad touch
   3. Appropriate & inappropriate nudity
   4. What to do if you feel abused or afraid -- tell a trusted adult
   5. Never the fault of the child
   6. Both boys and girls can be abused
4. Reproductive and Genital Health
   1. Keeping your genitals healthy -- washing, doctor visits
   2. Healthy & unhealthy behavior during pregnancy -- drugs/smoking, etc.

Day Four: Society and Culture

1. Gender Roles
   1. Boys and girls -- similarities and differences
   2. Parents’ roles
   3. Expectations of boys vs. girls
2. Sexuality and Religion
   1. Religion sometimes has opinions on sexuality
   2. Differences in religion and values -- some similar, some different
3. Diversity
   1. Why talking about differences is important
   2. Stereotypes
   3. Discrimination -- all people should be treated fair and equal
4. Sexuality and the Media
   1. Truth vs. fiction about sexuality on TV/movies/Internet
   2. Age appropriateness
   3. Commercials

They taught that in the fifth grade? I call bullshit.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Flopper said, "We teach sex education in schools because parents don't. Most parents don't know what to tell their kids about sex, when to tell them or how to tell them. Over half the teens in the country say there are uncomfortable discussing sex with their parents and no wonder. Most parents avoid the more uncomfortable and technical aspects of sex education and concentrate on all the don'ts.. Schools are successful teaching kids sex because because they approached sex education like other subjects and leave the morality lesson to parents..

Kids are going to make decisions about sexual behavior with or without sex education. However, they are far more likely to make the right decisions if they are armed with knowledge."


I'd think the inability to discuss things with parents like sex comes from the parents. When parents are uncomfortable discussing something with their kids, like sex, the kids pick upo on that and regard the subject matter just like their parents. If parents can't discuss it, kids wont either, at least not with the parents.

Apologies for the weird quote. Trying to interupt the infinite multiquote glitch.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

I was taught to use ready wrap for a condom in case there was an emergency.

Was taught to just do other things that those requiring a condom if ya didn't have one.

 

[Flopper]

We teach sex education in schools because parents don't. Most parents don't know what to tell their kids about sex, when to tell them or how to tell them. Over half the teens in the country say there are uncomfortable discussing sex with their parents and no wonder. Most parents avoid the more uncomfortable and technical aspects of sex education and concentrate on all the don'ts.. Schools are successful teaching kids sex because because they approached sex education like other subjects and leave the morality lesson to parents..

Kids are going to make decisions about sexual behavior with or without sex education. However, they are far more likely to make the right decisions if they are armed with knowledge.

I don't know anyone opposed to sex education in general. It's what and how it's taught. If they are teaching kids that anal sex is perfectly normal then they are wrong. If they teach them same genders together are perfectly normal, they are wrong. In other words, it's the moralizing that you pretend to object to that's the problem for many parents.

What kind of details do you feel 5th graders need? How females can get pregnant, STDs and the life altering event of having a child should be taught. That's about all we got in high school. I didn't need to learn how to take it up the ass or what the selection of adult toys were.

There is no aspect of sex that children should not be taught as long as it's age appropriate and presented properly. Sex education should begin at an early age. The old birds and bees talk that parents put off till puberty is the wrong approach. Sex education should begin early in life and continue through high school.

The following is a model elementary school curriculum developed by the Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United State founded in 1964. Many schools use this curriculum, emphasizing some parts and de-emphasizing others.

Curriculum Outline

This curriculum is focused on four broad areas:

1. Providing accurate and appropriate information about sexuality;
2. Giving students opportunities to develop their attitudes, values and beliefs about sexuality;
3. Helping students develop relationships and interpersonal skills; and
4. Providing students instruction and practice in developing personal and sexual responsibility.

More detailed guidelines for developing this curriculum can be found at the SIECUS web site: http://www.siecus.org/pubs/guidelines/guidelines.pdf

Day One: Human Development

1. • Reproductive Anatomy and Physiology
   1. Names of body parts
   2. Differences between boys and girls – including respect for all genders
   • Reproduction
   1. General physiology of reproduction – male and female required, intercourse, baby grows in uterus
   2. Puberty and body changes – no pregnancy before puberty
   3. Pregnancy and birth
   • Body Image
   1. Value of differences – male/female, shapes, sizes, colors, disabilities, etc.
   2. Pride in and appreciation of one’s body
   • Sexual Identity and Orientation
   1. Gender – boys/girls and men/women
   2. Homosexuality and heterosexuality and appropriate labels (gay men and lesbians)
   3. Respect for all sexual orientations

Day Two: Relationships

1. Families
   1. Different kinds of families
   2. Change over time (roles, structure, new babies, etc.)
   3. Role of families: taking care of each other, developing rules, loving each other
2. Friendship
   1. Components of friendship
   2. Sharing, hurting and forgiving feelings
   3. Different structures of friendships – gender, age
3. Love
   1. Importance of showing and sharing love
   2. Different ways to show love (family, friends, etc.)
4. Dating
   1. Definition of dating
   2. People who date: teenagers, unmarried adults, single parents
5. Marriage and Lifetime Commitments
   1. Reasons for marriage
   2. Marriage for a lifetime
   3. Divorce; reasons and difficulties of divorce
6. Raising Children
   1. Reasons for having children
   2. Raising children is for adults – effort, commitment
   3. Adoption

Day Two continued: Personal Skills

1. Values
   1. Definition
   2. We all have different values
2. Decision-making
   1. Examples of decisions we make, others make
   2. Developing our skills in decision-making
   3. Getting help in making decisions
3. Communication
   1. Verbal and nonverbal communication
   2. Importance of communication
4. Assertiveness
   1. Importance of sharing your feelings
   2. Personal rights and telling people what you want
   3. Parents sometimes override your rights
5. Looking for Help
   1. Who to ask for help: parents first
   2. If parents can’t help: teacher, counselor, minister, friends’ parents

Day Three: Sexual Behavior

1. Sexuality Throughout Life
   1. Bodies feel good
   2. Body curiosity is normal
2. Masturbation
   1. Definition
   2. Boys and girls masturbate
   3. Private (not secret) activity
3. Shared Sexual Behavior
   1. Touching, hugging, kissing, sexual behavior
   2. To show love and share pleasure
4. Human Sexual Response
   1. Normal, healthy for people to enjoy
   2. Boys’ and girls’ bodies are more alike than different

Day Three continued: Sexual Health

1. Contraception & Abortion
   1. Wanted and unwanted pregnancies
   2. The choice to have children is up to the people involved
2. STDs and HIV
   1. Definition and causes (bacteria or viruses)
   2. Ways of getting STDs
   3. Ways you cannot get STDs
3. Sexual Abuse
   1. Body rights
   2. Good touch/bad touch
   3. Appropriate & inappropriate nudity
   4. What to do if you feel abused or afraid -- tell a trusted adult
   5. Never the fault of the child
   6. Both boys and girls can be abused
4. Reproductive and Genital Health
   1. Keeping your genitals healthy -- washing, doctor visits
   2. Healthy & unhealthy behavior during pregnancy -- drugs/smoking, etc.

Day Four: Society and Culture

1. Gender Roles
   1. Boys and girls -- similarities and differences
   2. Parents’ roles
   3. Expectations of boys vs. girls
2. Sexuality and Religion
   1. Religion sometimes has opinions on sexuality
   2. Differences in religion and values -- some similar, some different
3. Diversity
   1. Why talking about differences is important
   2. Stereotypes
   3. Discrimination -- all people should be treated fair and equal
4. Sexuality and the Media
   1. Truth vs. fiction about sexuality on TV/movies/Internet
   2. Age appropriateness
   3. Commercials

They taught that in the fifth grade? I call bullshit.

No, the curriculum was created by the Sexuality Information and Education Council. It is used as guideline in most states, however all states tailor the curriculum because of the difference in state laws, district rules.

If you're shocked by this curriculum then you don't understand the real world of a 5th grader. 5% of the kids are sexually activity at age 12 and 10% at age 13. Oral sex is not uncommon in the 5th and 6th grade. Kids are far more sexual active than their parents believe which creates a big problem for parents teaching sex to their kids. Parents simply underestimate their kids. They just don't believe their 12 year old would have a homosexual liaison or their sweet little girl could be giving head to 7th graders in a storage closet.

 

[Iceweasel]

We teach sex education in schools because parents don't. Most parents don't know what to tell their kids about sex, when to tell them or how to tell them. Over half the teens in the country say there are uncomfortable discussing sex with their parents and no wonder. Most parents avoid the more uncomfortable and technical aspects of sex education and concentrate on all the don'ts.. Schools are successful teaching kids sex because because they approached sex education like other subjects and leave the morality lesson to parents..

Kids are going to make decisions about sexual behavior with or without sex education. However, they are far more likely to make the right decisions if they are armed with knowledge.

I don't know anyone opposed to sex education in general. It's what and how it's taught. If they are teaching kids that anal sex is perfectly normal then they are wrong. If they teach them same genders together are perfectly normal, they are wrong. In other words, it's the moralizing that you pretend to object to that's the problem for many parents.

What kind of details do you feel 5th graders need? How females can get pregnant, STDs and the life altering event of having a child should be taught. That's about all we got in high school. I didn't need to learn how to take it up the ass or what the selection of adult toys were.

There is no aspect of sex that children should not be taught as long as it's age appropriate and presented properly. Sex education should begin at an early age. The old birds and bees talk that parents put off till puberty is the wrong approach. Sex education should begin early in life and continue through high school.

The following is a model elementary school curriculum developed by the Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United State founded in 1964. Many schools use this curriculum, emphasizing some parts and de-emphasizing others.

Curriculum Outline

This curriculum is focused on four broad areas:

1. Providing accurate and appropriate information about sexuality;
2. Giving students opportunities to develop their attitudes, values and beliefs about sexuality;
3. Helping students develop relationships and interpersonal skills; and
4. Providing students instruction and practice in developing personal and sexual responsibility.

More detailed guidelines for developing this curriculum can be found at the SIECUS web site: http://www.siecus.org/pubs/guidelines/guidelines.pdf

Day One: Human Development

1. • Reproductive Anatomy and Physiology
   1. Names of body parts
   2. Differences between boys and girls – including respect for all genders
   • Reproduction
   1. General physiology of reproduction – male and female required, intercourse, baby grows in uterus
   2. Puberty and body changes – no pregnancy before puberty
   3. Pregnancy and birth
   • Body Image
   1. Value of differences – male/female, shapes, sizes, colors, disabilities, etc.
   2. Pride in and appreciation of one’s body
   • Sexual Identity and Orientation
   1. Gender – boys/girls and men/women
   2. Homosexuality and heterosexuality and appropriate labels (gay men and lesbians)
   3. Respect for all sexual orientations

Day Two: Relationships

1. Families
   1. Different kinds of families
   2. Change over time (roles, structure, new babies, etc.)
   3. Role of families: taking care of each other, developing rules, loving each other
2. Friendship
   1. Components of friendship
   2. Sharing, hurting and forgiving feelings
   3. Different structures of friendships – gender, age
3. Love
   1. Importance of showing and sharing love
   2. Different ways to show love (family, friends, etc.)
4. Dating
   1. Definition of dating
   2. People who date: teenagers, unmarried adults, single parents
5. Marriage and Lifetime Commitments
   1. Reasons for marriage
   2. Marriage for a lifetime
   3. Divorce; reasons and difficulties of divorce
6. Raising Children
   1. Reasons for having children
   2. Raising children is for adults – effort, commitment
   3. Adoption

Day Two continued: Personal Skills

1. Values
   1. Definition
   2. We all have different values
2. Decision-making
   1. Examples of decisions we make, others make
   2. Developing our skills in decision-making
   3. Getting help in making decisions
3. Communication
   1. Verbal and nonverbal communication
   2. Importance of communication
4. Assertiveness
   1. Importance of sharing your feelings
   2. Personal rights and telling people what you want
   3. Parents sometimes override your rights
5. Looking for Help
   1. Who to ask for help: parents first
   2. If parents can’t help: teacher, counselor, minister, friends’ parents

Day Three: Sexual Behavior

1. Sexuality Throughout Life
   1. Bodies feel good
   2. Body curiosity is normal
2. Masturbation
   1. Definition
   2. Boys and girls masturbate
   3. Private (not secret) activity
3. Shared Sexual Behavior
   1. Touching, hugging, kissing, sexual behavior
   2. To show love and share pleasure
4. Human Sexual Response
   1. Normal, healthy for people to enjoy
   2. Boys’ and girls’ bodies are more alike than different

Day Three continued: Sexual Health

1. Contraception & Abortion
   1. Wanted and unwanted pregnancies
   2. The choice to have children is up to the people involved
2. STDs and HIV
   1. Definition and causes (bacteria or viruses)
   2. Ways of getting STDs
   3. Ways you cannot get STDs
3. Sexual Abuse
   1. Body rights
   2. Good touch/bad touch
   3. Appropriate & inappropriate nudity
   4. What to do if you feel abused or afraid -- tell a trusted adult
   5. Never the fault of the child
   6. Both boys and girls can be abused
4. Reproductive and Genital Health
   1. Keeping your genitals healthy -- washing, doctor visits
   2. Healthy & unhealthy behavior during pregnancy -- drugs/smoking, etc.

Day Four: Society and Culture

1. Gender Roles
   1. Boys and girls -- similarities and differences
   2. Parents’ roles
   3. Expectations of boys vs. girls
2. Sexuality and Religion
   1. Religion sometimes has opinions on sexuality
   2. Differences in religion and values -- some similar, some different
3. Diversity
   1. Why talking about differences is important
   2. Stereotypes
   3. Discrimination -- all people should be treated fair and equal
4. Sexuality and the Media
   1. Truth vs. fiction about sexuality on TV/movies/Internet
   2. Age appropriateness
   3. Commercials

They taught that in the fifth grade? I call bullshit.

No, the curriculum was created by the Sexuality Information and Education Council. It is used as guideline in most states, however all states tailor the curriculum because of the difference in state laws, district rules.

If you're shocked by this curriculum then you don't understand the real world of a 5th grader. 5% of the kids are sexually activity at age 12 and 10% at age 13. Oral sex is not uncommon in the 5th and 6th grade. Kids are far more sexual active than their parents believe which creates a big problem for parents teaching sex to their kids. Parents simply underestimate their kids. They just don't believe their 12 year old would have a homosexual liaison or their sweet little girl could be giving head to 7th graders in a storage closet.

I don't recall saying I was shocked. The challenge was about using it in 1964 5th grade. And yes, I am well aware that liberals have been very successful with moral decay.

 

[HenryBHough]

So will those so upset over kids being taught about anal sex let their pickaninnies watch Our Kenyan President butt-**** the Constitution tonight?

 

[Disir]

About 10 years ago, the kids were started coming out with their own little version of virginity.

You can still be a virgin if you have only anal sex.

Incidentally, you also cannot get pregnant if you only have anal sex.

It's still unprotected sex.

That's the big deal.

Oral sex is not sex either. It's a bunch of convoluted thinking.

There is a reason that the HPV shots are given at age 11. That's the age they are seeing the kids show up with infections.

I don't agree with what I just read about how it's being taught.

 

[ChrisL]

So will those so upset over kids being taught about anal sex let their pickaninnies watch Our Kenyan President butt-**** the Constitution tonight?

Well first of all, what is a "pickaninnies?"

 

[ChrisL]

We teach sex education in schools because parents don't. Most parents don't know what to tell their kids about sex, when to tell them or how to tell them. Over half the teens in the country say there are uncomfortable discussing sex with their parents and no wonder. Most parents avoid the more uncomfortable and technical aspects of sex education and concentrate on all the don'ts.. Schools are successful teaching kids sex because because they approached sex education like other subjects and leave the morality lesson to parents..

Kids are going to make decisions about sexual behavior with or without sex education. However, they are far more likely to make the right decisions if they are armed with knowledge.

I don't know anyone opposed to sex education in general. It's what and how it's taught. If they are teaching kids that anal sex is perfectly normal then they are wrong. If they teach them same genders together are perfectly normal, they are wrong. In other words, it's the moralizing that you pretend to object to that's the problem for many parents.

What kind of details do you feel 5th graders need? How females can get pregnant, STDs and the life altering event of having a child should be taught. That's about all we got in high school. I didn't need to learn how to take it up the ass or what the selection of adult toys were.

There is no aspect of sex that children should not be taught as long as it's age appropriate and presented properly. Sex education should begin at an early age. The old birds and bees talk that parents put off till puberty is the wrong approach. Sex education should begin early in life and continue through high school.

The following is a model elementary school curriculum developed by the Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United State founded in 1964. Many schools use this curriculum, emphasizing some parts and de-emphasizing others.

Curriculum Outline

This curriculum is focused on four broad areas:

1. Providing accurate and appropriate information about sexuality;
2. Giving students opportunities to develop their attitudes, values and beliefs about sexuality;
3. Helping students develop relationships and interpersonal skills; and
4. Providing students instruction and practice in developing personal and sexual responsibility.

More detailed guidelines for developing this curriculum can be found at the SIECUS web site: http://www.siecus.org/pubs/guidelines/guidelines.pdf

Day One: Human Development

1. • Reproductive Anatomy and Physiology
   1. Names of body parts
   2. Differences between boys and girls – including respect for all genders
   • Reproduction
   1. General physiology of reproduction – male and female required, intercourse, baby grows in uterus
   2. Puberty and body changes – no pregnancy before puberty
   3. Pregnancy and birth
   • Body Image
   1. Value of differences – male/female, shapes, sizes, colors, disabilities, etc.
   2. Pride in and appreciation of one’s body
   • Sexual Identity and Orientation
   1. Gender – boys/girls and men/women
   2. Homosexuality and heterosexuality and appropriate labels (gay men and lesbians)
   3. Respect for all sexual orientations

Day Two: Relationships

1. Families
   1. Different kinds of families
   2. Change over time (roles, structure, new babies, etc.)
   3. Role of families: taking care of each other, developing rules, loving each other
2. Friendship
   1. Components of friendship
   2. Sharing, hurting and forgiving feelings
   3. Different structures of friendships – gender, age
3. Love
   1. Importance of showing and sharing love
   2. Different ways to show love (family, friends, etc.)
4. Dating
   1. Definition of dating
   2. People who date: teenagers, unmarried adults, single parents
5. Marriage and Lifetime Commitments
   1. Reasons for marriage
   2. Marriage for a lifetime
   3. Divorce; reasons and difficulties of divorce
6. Raising Children
   1. Reasons for having children
   2. Raising children is for adults – effort, commitment
   3. Adoption

Day Two continued: Personal Skills

1. Values
   1. Definition
   2. We all have different values
2. Decision-making
   1. Examples of decisions we make, others make
   2. Developing our skills in decision-making
   3. Getting help in making decisions
3. Communication
   1. Verbal and nonverbal communication
   2. Importance of communication
4. Assertiveness
   1. Importance of sharing your feelings
   2. Personal rights and telling people what you want
   3. Parents sometimes override your rights
5. Looking for Help
   1. Who to ask for help: parents first
   2. If parents can’t help: teacher, counselor, minister, friends’ parents

Day Three: Sexual Behavior

1. Sexuality Throughout Life
   1. Bodies feel good
   2. Body curiosity is normal
2. Masturbation
   1. Definition
   2. Boys and girls masturbate
   3. Private (not secret) activity
3. Shared Sexual Behavior
   1. Touching, hugging, kissing, sexual behavior
   2. To show love and share pleasure
4. Human Sexual Response
   1. Normal, healthy for people to enjoy
   2. Boys’ and girls’ bodies are more alike than different

Day Three continued: Sexual Health

1. Contraception & Abortion
   1. Wanted and unwanted pregnancies
   2. The choice to have children is up to the people involved
2. STDs and HIV
   1. Definition and causes (bacteria or viruses)
   2. Ways of getting STDs
   3. Ways you cannot get STDs
3. Sexual Abuse
   1. Body rights
   2. Good touch/bad touch
   3. Appropriate & inappropriate nudity
   4. What to do if you feel abused or afraid -- tell a trusted adult
   5. Never the fault of the child
   6. Both boys and girls can be abused
4. Reproductive and Genital Health
   1. Keeping your genitals healthy -- washing, doctor visits
   2. Healthy & unhealthy behavior during pregnancy -- drugs/smoking, etc.

Day Four: Society and Culture

1. Gender Roles
   1. Boys and girls -- similarities and differences
   2. Parents’ roles
   3. Expectations of boys vs. girls
2. Sexuality and Religion
   1. Religion sometimes has opinions on sexuality
   2. Differences in religion and values -- some similar, some different
3. Diversity
   1. Why talking about differences is important
   2. Stereotypes
   3. Discrimination -- all people should be treated fair and equal
4. Sexuality and the Media
   1. Truth vs. fiction about sexuality on TV/movies/Internet
   2. Age appropriateness
   3. Commercials

They taught that in the fifth grade? I call bullshit.

No, the curriculum was created by the Sexuality Information and Education Council. It is used as guideline in most states, however all states tailor the curriculum because of the difference in state laws, district rules.

If you're shocked by this curriculum then you don't understand the real world of a 5th grader. 5% of the kids are sexually activity at age 12 and 10% at age 13. Oral sex is not uncommon in the 5th and 6th grade. Kids are far more sexual active than their parents believe which creates a big problem for parents teaching sex to their kids. Parents simply underestimate their kids. They just don't believe their 12 year old would have a homosexual liaison or their sweet little girl could be giving head to 7th graders in a storage closet.

Regardless of your hyperbole, most do not at that age. If they do, it is usually because they don't have a very good home life, and that has nothing to do with "teaching" them, but is usually do to some type of abuse/neglect.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

ChrisL said,

"Regardless of your hyperbole, most do not at that age. If they do, it is usually because they don't have a very good home life, and that has nothing to do with "teaching" them, but is usually do to some type of abuse/neglect."

Most don't it's true. But because of precocious puberty (earlier than normal onset of puberty,) some do. As a result sex hormones start producing themselves and the desire for sex manifests itself. So it's not accurate or fair to say every young kid who has sex has something wrong at home or with their mentally. It's just that side of the bell curve. Some start early, most start in the middle, some start later.

Question is should we tailor school curiculums for one side of the curve? I think not. Can't be that many starting that early.