Teacher asks 8th-grade students to list positives of slavery...

[there4eyeM]

If all the teacher did was ask to list the positive and negative aspects of slavery, where is the wrong? The negative side could be endless, while one could easily judge the other side devoid of points. This could easily be viewed as testing the evaluative abilities of students to read and reason without automatic, useless emotion.
Of course slavery was always wrong on human terms, but it was also practiced in all ages by virtually all cultures. No one was prosecuted after slavery was abolished for having had slaves previously.
I don't understand how people ever thought they could 'own' another person. I don't understand why people deal with women as inferior to men. I don't know why we tolerate this in the world today. Why continue to chew the old bone of slavery when a far greater number of people are oppressed before our very eyes right now. It is at least hypocritical to be scandalized by an institution that is now illegal and gone while allowing greater wrong to continue today. Where is the force to free our sisters?

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Teaching children is what teachers should do. Critical thinking skills are important whether you get upset or not.

God I hate giving you "winner" props all the time and always agreeing with you. Can't you say something stupid sometimes like a damn liberal would?

 

[irosie91]

If all the teacher did was ask to list the positive and negative aspects of slavery, where is the wrong? The negative side could be endless, while one could easily judge the other side devoid of points. This could easily be viewed as testing the evaluative abilities of students to read and reason without automatic, useless emotion.
Of course slavery was always wrong on human terms, but it was also practiced in all ages by virtually all cultures. No one was prosecuted after slavery was abolished for having had slaves previously.
I don't understand how people ever thought they could 'own' another person. I don't understand why people deal with women as inferior to men. I don't know why we tolerate this in the world today. Why continue to chew the old bone of slavery when a far greater number of people are oppressed before our very eyes right now. It is at least hypocritical to be scandalized by an institution that is now illegal and gone while allowing greater wrong to continue today. Where is the force to free our sisters?

4eyes----getting back to my boring personal anecdotes. -----I grew up in a
LILY WHITE town------it had been completely RESTRICTED for the first
half of the 20 th century----but with lots of deserted farmland around and
a BABY BOOM post war------SELLING HOUSES took over. -------so
da joooos came.------blacks were still blocked. My little Waspy playmates
KNEW the pros of slavery---------<ready?? here it comes> Da black
slaves were LUCKY TO BE SLAVES BECAUSE BEING A SLAVE
INTRODUCED THEM TO CHRISTIANITY!!!!! I grew up with kids who
TRULY BELIEVED THAT "POSITIVE" Is that not interesting? There
were kids like that in my school classes who expressed their "BRILLIANCE" .
thirteen year old kids are not ALL ready. In my school the lively conversation
took place ONLY in the ""smart"" classes----it worked out alright----but there
was a bit of CLASH OF CULTURES and not ALL the kids dealt with it
during candid discussion on civil rights

 

[toobfreak]

Have you seen life in Africa? Can you spell U-P-G-R-A-D-E?

Why America steals doctors from poorer countries

surveys suggest that around 75% of the world's best universities are in the US

In most countries, especially in the developing world, doctors are trained at public expense. If a doctor from Ghana is recruited to the US, not only does Ghana lose its doctor, it loses the money paid for the training. It may be that the doctor is likely to send a portion of earnings back home (known in the development business as "remittances"). But this is scant compensation. In sum, the US is receiving a massive subsidy from the developing world in training its medical staff.

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People like this don't become doctors. They NEED doctors:

So now the racist moron thinks he can tell a doctor from a photo, by the color of their skin and how they dress or what they do for fun.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

More fun than humans should be allowed to have actually.

I don't think they had movie cameras back then.

 

[irosie91]

Have you seen life in Africa? Can you spell U-P-G-R-A-D-E?

Why America steals doctors from poorer countries

surveys suggest that around 75% of the world's best universities are in the US

In most countries, especially in the developing world, doctors are trained at public expense. If a doctor from Ghana is recruited to the US, not only does Ghana lose its doctor, it loses the money paid for the training. It may be that the doctor is likely to send a portion of earnings back home (known in the development business as "remittances"). But this is scant compensation. In sum, the US is receiving a massive subsidy from the developing world in training its medical staff.

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People like this don't become doctors. They NEED doctors:

So now the racist moron thinks he can tell a doctor from a photo, by the color of their skin and how they dress or what they do for fun.

it happens to be true that the USA drains doctors from poor countries

 

[toobfreak]

Teacher asks 8th-grade students to list positives of slavery

SAN ANTONIO -- A San Antonio charter school has apologized after a teacher asked students in an eighth grade American history class to list the positive and negative aspects of slavery. The teacher at Great Hearts Monte Vista who distributed a worksheet titled "The Life of Slaves: A Balanced View" has been placed on leave.

Aaron Kindel, the superintendent of Great Hearts Texas, said in a statement the school would audit the textbook associated with the lesson.

"To be clear, there is no debate about slavery. It is immoral and a crime against humanity," Kindel said in a statement posted Thursday on the Great Hearts Facebook page. He said the school's headmaster plans to explain the mistake to the history class.

Scott Overland, a spokesman for Pearson, which published the textbook, said the company didn't create and doesn't endorse the worksheet assigned to the students, CBS affiliate KENS-TV reports.

"We do not support the point of view represented in the worksheet and strongly condemn the implication that there was any positive aspect to slavery," Overland said.

A parent of one of the students in the class posted the worksheet Wednesday on Facebook. Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-Texas, drew attention to the issue on Thursday when the Democrat tweeted that the worksheet was "absolutely unacceptable."

Let's see...

1. Free labor.

2. The cotton industry was booming.

3. As the great Cliven Bundy once said, it "gave them something to do".

4. 12 Years A Slave, which was a great movie, never would have been made.

Can you think of any more?

The school is just one more PC Idiocracy. EVERYTHING has a + and a - side to it, even slavery, that is the nature of the universe, otherwise there never would have been slaves! It was a lesson in critical thinking, thinking outside the box, not justification of slavery, but now thanks to fear of PC, these kids will lose a valuable lesson in looking at something very bad and seeing that even such things have their positive aspects. The Chinese call it yin and yang, but in the Dumbed Down States of America, our poor kids are not allowed to think and learn freely, being told by their "school" that you are only allowed to believe that things like slavery, war, old age, illness and even death are all bad with nothing good or positive to ever be gleaned, taken or learned from them.

Only a white person in delusional denial thinks that there was anything positive about slavery. Especially in a nation whose credo reads “All men are created equal”, such conclusions would invite the enslavement of those privileged and in power presently. Maybe your opinion would be different if your ancestors and their progeny had been slaves.


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Oh. You mean like Hebrews? Native Americans? Irish folks? Asians?

Hebrews were slaves thousands of years ago in Egypt, Native Americans were never slaves, nor were the Irish or Asians, ever slaves in America. Or anywhere else for that matter.

Hebrews WERE slaves, and in a way, have been held prisoner ever since. Even today, they are are walled up and under constant attack just for living. If that isn't a form of slavery, I don't know what is. Just as the Irish were considered dirt by the English for a long time. As to the native Indians, no, they were never taken from their land and forced to work as slaves, they were just killed, butchered, rounded up and taken from their land, herded into ranches on plots of the most undesirable land imaginable, then left to be forgotten. Maybe worse than slavery. The Colonialists broke every pact, every agreement with them, lied to them, cheated them, and left them with not one piece of land anyone would want to live in poverty.

 

[petro]

Best part of slavery is having it held against you because your skin color happens to be white but your ancestors never owned any individual.

That's awesome!!

 

[toobfreak]

Have you seen life in Africa? Can you spell U-P-G-R-A-D-E?

Why America steals doctors from poorer countries

surveys suggest that around 75% of the world's best universities are in the US

In most countries, especially in the developing world, doctors are trained at public expense. If a doctor from Ghana is recruited to the US, not only does Ghana lose its doctor, it loses the money paid for the training. It may be that the doctor is likely to send a portion of earnings back home (known in the development business as "remittances"). But this is scant compensation. In sum, the US is receiving a massive subsidy from the developing world in training its medical staff.

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People like this don't become doctors. They NEED doctors:

So now the racist moron thinks he can tell a doctor from a photo, by the color of their skin and how they dress or what they do for fun.

it happens to be true that the USA drains doctors from poor countries

Another way to look at it is that doctors come here to study because we have the best schools, then often stay here because they stand to make a better living. Free will of choice. The dirty secret is that many people get into medicine to actually make a good living. Can't say I blame them.

 

[irosie91]

Have you seen life in Africa? Can you spell U-P-G-R-A-D-E?

Why America steals doctors from poorer countries

surveys suggest that around 75% of the world's best universities are in the US

In most countries, especially in the developing world, doctors are trained at public expense. If a doctor from Ghana is recruited to the US, not only does Ghana lose its doctor, it loses the money paid for the training. It may be that the doctor is likely to send a portion of earnings back home (known in the development business as "remittances"). But this is scant compensation. In sum, the US is receiving a massive subsidy from the developing world in training its medical staff.

------------------

People like this don't become doctors. They NEED doctors:

So now the racist moron thinks he can tell a doctor from a photo, by the color of their skin and how they dress or what they do for fun.

it happens to be true that the USA drains doctors from poor countries

Another way to look at it is that doctors come here to study because we have the best schools, then often stay here because they stand to make a better living. Free will of choice. The dirty secret is that many people get into medicine to actually make a good living. Can't say I blame them.

they come as medical school graduates for POST GRADUATE training in US
hospitals

 

[Gracie]

Teacher asks 8th-grade students to list positives of slavery

SAN ANTONIO -- A San Antonio charter school has apologized after a teacher asked students in an eighth grade American history class to list the positive and negative aspects of slavery. The teacher at Great Hearts Monte Vista who distributed a worksheet titled "The Life of Slaves: A Balanced View" has been placed on leave.

Aaron Kindel, the superintendent of Great Hearts Texas, said in a statement the school would audit the textbook associated with the lesson.

"To be clear, there is no debate about slavery. It is immoral and a crime against humanity," Kindel said in a statement posted Thursday on the Great Hearts Facebook page. He said the school's headmaster plans to explain the mistake to the history class.

Scott Overland, a spokesman for Pearson, which published the textbook, said the company didn't create and doesn't endorse the worksheet assigned to the students, CBS affiliate KENS-TV reports.

"We do not support the point of view represented in the worksheet and strongly condemn the implication that there was any positive aspect to slavery," Overland said.

A parent of one of the students in the class posted the worksheet Wednesday on Facebook. Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-Texas, drew attention to the issue on Thursday when the Democrat tweeted that the worksheet was "absolutely unacceptable."

Let's see...

1. Free labor.

2. The cotton industry was booming.

3. As the great Cliven Bundy once said, it "gave them something to do".

4. 12 Years A Slave, which was a great movie, never would have been made.

Can you think of any more?

The school is just one more PC Idiocracy. EVERYTHING has a + and a - side to it, even slavery, that is the nature of the universe, otherwise there never would have been slaves! It was a lesson in critical thinking, thinking outside the box, not justification of slavery, but now thanks to fear of PC, these kids will lose a valuable lesson in looking at something very bad and seeing that even such things have their positive aspects. The Chinese call it yin and yang, but in the Dumbed Down States of America, our poor kids are not allowed to think and learn freely, being told by their "school" that you are only allowed to believe that things like slavery, war, old age, illness and even death are all bad with nothing good or positive to ever be gleaned, taken or learned from them.

Only a white person in delusional denial thinks that there was anything positive about slavery. Especially in a nation whose credo reads “All men are created equal”, such conclusions would invite the enslavement of those privileged and in power presently. Maybe your opinion would be different if your ancestors and their progeny had been slaves.


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Oh. You mean like Hebrews? Native Americans? Irish folks? Asians?

Hebrews were slaves thousands of years ago in Egypt, Native Americans were never slaves, nor were the Irish or Asians, ever slaves in America. Or anywhere else for that matter. Maybe you’re the one who needs to go to school to learn the truth of slavery. Ignorance is a deal killer in these forums.



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Oh. So sorry. I didn't know there was a time limit on when slavery was bad. Then again, maybe you should take you own advice about going to school.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Besides, starting Monday I will be working for the Army!

Nice to see you move up in the world, 'Admiral'.

lol

 

[JimBowie1958]

Hebrews were slaves thousands of years ago in Egypt, Native Americans were never slaves, nor were the Irish or Asians, ever slaves in America. Or anywhere else for that matter. Maybe you’re the one who needs to go to school to learn the truth of slavery. Ignorance is a deal killer in these forums.

Lol, you are an ignoramus.

Yes, the Romans and Arabs enslaved other whites, and the Germans enslaved Slavic people so long that our word for the two groups, slaves and slavs, are entertwined.

And Cromwell sold hundreds of thousands of Irish kids to slavery in the New World and made a fortune.

Maybe you should go back to school and empty the shit out of your head.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Teacher asks 8th-grade students to list positives of slavery

SAN ANTONIO -- A San Antonio charter school has apologized after a teacher asked students in an eighth grade American history class to list the positive and negative aspects of slavery. The teacher at Great Hearts Monte Vista who distributed a worksheet titled "The Life of Slaves: A Balanced View" has been placed on leave.

Aaron Kindel, the superintendent of Great Hearts Texas, said in a statement the school would audit the textbook associated with the lesson.

"To be clear, there is no debate about slavery. It is immoral and a crime against humanity," Kindel said in a statement posted Thursday on the Great Hearts Facebook page. He said the school's headmaster plans to explain the mistake to the history class.

Scott Overland, a spokesman for Pearson, which published the textbook, said the company didn't create and doesn't endorse the worksheet assigned to the students, CBS affiliate KENS-TV reports.

"We do not support the point of view represented in the worksheet and strongly condemn the implication that there was any positive aspect to slavery," Overland said.

A parent of one of the students in the class posted the worksheet Wednesday on Facebook. Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-Texas, drew attention to the issue on Thursday when the Democrat tweeted that the worksheet was "absolutely unacceptable."

Let's see...

1. Free labor.

2. The cotton industry was booming.

3. As the great Cliven Bundy once said, it "gave them something to do".

4. 12 Years A Slave, which was a great movie, never would have been made.

Can you think of any more?

You forgot the free food and stellar accommodations.

 

[Slimdugger99]

Teacher asks 8th-grade students to list positives of slavery

Let's see...

1. Free labor.

2. The cotton industry was booming.

3. As the great Cliven Bundy once said, it "gave them something to do".

4. 12 Years A Slave, which was a great movie, never would have been made.

Can you think of any more?

The school is just one more PC Idiocracy. EVERYTHING has a + and a - side to it, even slavery, that is the nature of the universe, otherwise there never would have been slaves! It was a lesson in critical thinking, thinking outside the box, not justification of slavery, but now thanks to fear of PC, these kids will lose a valuable lesson in looking at something very bad and seeing that even such things have their positive aspects. The Chinese call it yin and yang, but in the Dumbed Down States of America, our poor kids are not allowed to think and learn freely, being told by their "school" that you are only allowed to believe that things like slavery, war, old age, illness and even death are all bad with nothing good or positive to ever be gleaned, taken or learned from them.

Only a white person in delusional denial thinks that there was anything positive about slavery. Especially in a nation whose credo reads “All men are created equal”, such conclusions would invite the enslavement of those privileged and in power presently. Maybe your opinion would be different if your ancestors and their progeny had been slaves.


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Oh. You mean like Hebrews? Native Americans? Irish folks? Asians?

Hebrews were slaves thousands of years ago in Egypt, Native Americans were never slaves, nor were the Irish or Asians, ever slaves in America. Or anywhere else for that matter. Maybe you’re the one who needs to go to school to learn the truth of slavery. Ignorance is a deal killer in these forums.



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Oh. So sorry. I didn't know there was a time limit on when slavery was bad. Then again, maybe you should take you own advice about going to school.

Who said anything about a time limit? Slavery has always been immoral, in every place, and every time. Can’t you read? Maybe you just can’t comprehend.


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[aaronleland]

Teacher asks 8th-grade students to list positives of slavery

SAN ANTONIO -- A San Antonio charter school has apologized after a teacher asked students in an eighth grade American history class to list the positive and negative aspects of slavery. The teacher at Great Hearts Monte Vista who distributed a worksheet titled "The Life of Slaves: A Balanced View" has been placed on leave.

Aaron Kindel, the superintendent of Great Hearts Texas, said in a statement the school would audit the textbook associated with the lesson.

"To be clear, there is no debate about slavery. It is immoral and a crime against humanity," Kindel said in a statement posted Thursday on the Great Hearts Facebook page. He said the school's headmaster plans to explain the mistake to the history class.

Scott Overland, a spokesman for Pearson, which published the textbook, said the company didn't create and doesn't endorse the worksheet assigned to the students, CBS affiliate KENS-TV reports.

"We do not support the point of view represented in the worksheet and strongly condemn the implication that there was any positive aspect to slavery," Overland said.

A parent of one of the students in the class posted the worksheet Wednesday on Facebook. Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-Texas, drew attention to the issue on Thursday when the Democrat tweeted that the worksheet was "absolutely unacceptable."

Let's see...

1. Free labor.

2. The cotton industry was booming.

3. As the great Cliven Bundy once said, it "gave them something to do".

4. 12 Years A Slave, which was a great movie, never would have been made.

Can you think of any more?

You forgot the free food and stellar accommodations.

I don't understand what they were always bitching about.

 

[Slimdugger99]

Hebrews were slaves thousands of years ago in Egypt, Native Americans were never slaves, nor were the Irish or Asians, ever slaves in America. Or anywhere else for that matter. Maybe you’re the one who needs to go to school to learn the truth of slavery. Ignorance is a deal killer in these forums.

Lol, you are an ignoramus.

Yes, the Romans and Arabs enslaved other whites, and the Germans enslaved Slavic people so long that our word for the two groups, slaves and slavs, are entertwined.

And Cromwell sold hundreds of thousands of Irish kids to slavery in the New World and made a fortune.

Maybe you should go back to school and empty the shit out of your head.

You should stop making up history just to suit your arguments. Where in the new world were the Irish enslaved? Indentured servitude wasn’t slavery if that’s what you reference. Slavs were sold into slavery by the Germans? In whose world history did you find that gem? I know, Steve Brannon’s world history, right? Romans and Arabs enslaved some in lands that they conquered. The city state that was Rome didn’t have the need or infrastructure to enslave more than a few of the most educated to act as teachers and servants. Slavery on an industrial scale was a predominantly American enterprise and American companies and banks facilitated and profited from its proliferation in the Caribbean and South America. Hundreds of thousands of Irish slaves; a truly monumental lie. How about Martians?


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[bgrouse]

Best part of slavery is having it held against you because your skin color happens to be white but your ancestors never owned any individual.

That's awesome!!

What's funny is Apefreaka still has human slavery today. I bet the negro rights leaders talk about it first and foremost.

NOT!

 

[JimBowie1958]

You forgot the free food and stellar accommodations.

That cabin is very old and at one time would have been a home most Americans would have been proud to have, dude.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Teacher asks 8th-grade students to list positives of slavery

SAN ANTONIO -- A San Antonio charter school has apologized after a teacher asked students in an eighth grade American history class to list the positive and negative aspects of slavery. The teacher at Great Hearts Monte Vista who distributed a worksheet titled "The Life of Slaves: A Balanced View" has been placed on leave.

Aaron Kindel, the superintendent of Great Hearts Texas, said in a statement the school would audit the textbook associated with the lesson.

"To be clear, there is no debate about slavery. It is immoral and a crime against humanity," Kindel said in a statement posted Thursday on the Great Hearts Facebook page. He said the school's headmaster plans to explain the mistake to the history class.

Scott Overland, a spokesman for Pearson, which published the textbook, said the company didn't create and doesn't endorse the worksheet assigned to the students, CBS affiliate KENS-TV reports.

"We do not support the point of view represented in the worksheet and strongly condemn the implication that there was any positive aspect to slavery," Overland said.

A parent of one of the students in the class posted the worksheet Wednesday on Facebook. Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-Texas, drew attention to the issue on Thursday when the Democrat tweeted that the worksheet was "absolutely unacceptable."

Let's see...

1. Free labor.

2. The cotton industry was booming.

3. As the great Cliven Bundy once said, it "gave them something to do".

4. 12 Years A Slave, which was a great movie, never would have been made.

Can you think of any more?

The school is just one more PC Idiocracy. EVERYTHING has a + and a - side to it, even slavery, that is the nature of the universe, otherwise there never would have been slaves! It was a lesson in critical thinking, thinking outside the box, not justification of slavery, but now thanks to fear of PC, these kids will lose a valuable lesson in looking at something very bad and seeing that even such things have their positive aspects. The Chinese call it yin and yang, but in the Dumbed Down States of America, our poor kids are not allowed to think and learn freely, being told by their "school" that you are only allowed to believe that things like slavery, war, old age, illness and even death are all bad with nothing good or positive to ever be gleaned, taken or learned from them.

Only a white person in delusional denial thinks that there was anything positive about slavery. Especially in a nation whose credo reads “All men are created equal”, such conclusions would invite the enslavement of those privileged and in power presently. Maybe your opinion would be different if your ancestors and their progeny had been slaves.


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Oh. You mean like Hebrews? Native Americans? Irish folks? Asians?

Hebrews were slaves thousands of years ago in Egypt, Native Americans were never slaves,

The question, of itself, is not offensive. On the contrary, education should constructively challenge the developing intellect of students.
The positives of slavery did not go to the slaves, for example, but to the owners and their economic system. A student could and should have been able to see that, at least. Ultimately, the question could have led to the answer, "There were no positives for the victims of this practice".
They should also have learned about the context, that until relatively soon before the war to preserve the Union, slavery was common in the world and almost all cultures. Whites were not evil for having black slaves, just unenlightened.
Nuance seems less and less present in American social debate. Everything has to be 'good' or 'bad', and all according to the current mode and definition.

People who constantly pound on about how bad and evil white folks in America were for keeping slaves generally ignore the fact that slavery's been around throughout mankind in all parts of the world. That's just the way man rolled for centuries; it was a natural part of life and not looked at as morally wrong or anything. Not saying it was right or endorsing it. That's just the way it was and it was handed down through generations across cultures, continents, etc.

Pretty much every other advanced nation had abolished slavery decades before our Civil War.

And they abolished slavery peacefully.

It's a pretty wretched indictment on the South they were one of the few places in the world that would fight to the bloody death one of the worst wars in history to preserve human bondage.

, ever slaves in America. Or anywhere else for that matter. Maybe you’re the one who needs to go to school to learn the truth of slavery. Ignorance is a deal killer in these forums.



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You do realize that the North attacked the South, right?