Abby Zwerner, Shot By Her Student, Wins Civil Case Against Principal

[Unkotare]

It is to you, clearly.

Not really.

 

[Unkotare]

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Of course I would worry about my job....

As opposed to getting shot and killed? Are you ******* nuts?

 

[Unkotare]

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Of course I would worry about my job. Your thinking that you wouldn't confirms you are not a teacher.

It has always been my policy that if anyone came into my classroom with the intent of harming any of my students, I would put them down as hard as necessary, job be damned.

 

[Seymour Flops]

It has always been my policy that if anyone came into my classroom with the intent of harming any of my students, I would put them down as hard as necessary, job be damned.

So you would literally have killed the 6 year old.

But . . . you cannot explain how you would do this heroic feat, in a way that any random teacher could.

 

[Unkotare]

So you would literally have killed the 6 year old.
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I hardly think that would be necessary.

 

[SweetSue92]

I've said it before and I 'll say it again.

I want the confidentiallity for children REMOVED.

I want to know everythign about EVERYTHING in that ******* school, where a report of a child with a ******* gun was ignored.

Was that the first time a child with a gun was ignored? How many KNIVES have been brought to school?


What is the bullying situation? And don't talk shit to me about ZERO TOLERANCE when a ******* GUN was ignored, until a woman was shot.


ect. ect. ect.


Incompetent leftards are HIDING their damage done to society, behind this "CHILDREN CONFIDENTIALITY" clause.

I see your point. To some extent it's important to keep things confidential; for example, you don't get to know other kids' academic progress. But when it comes to SAFETY, yes.

My formerly beloved profession has a terrible track record of swinging wildly to extremes. So 15 years ago, with "zero tolerance", we had a kid suspended for chewing a pop tart in the shape of a gun. Now, we have kids regularly assaulting others, but we're big into "special needs" and etc, so if a kid has a label, is "traumatized" or "dysregulated", they get a pass. It's ridiculous.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Er...elephant in the room ... where did a six year old get a gun? Whoever had the gun (legal or illegal) needs to go to prison FOREVER.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I hardly think that would be necessary.

So what exactly woul you do about a six year old with a gun in unknown condition?

I know what you would do: either hide under your desk (serving counter) or run out the door. Just like you hide and run away from the question.

 

[Unkotare]

I see your point. To some extent it's important to keep things confidential; for example, you don't get to know other kids' academic progress. But when it comes to SAFETY, yes.

My formerly beloved profession has a terrible track record of swinging wildly to extremes. So 15 years ago, with "zero tolerance", we had a kid suspended for chewing a pop tart in the shape of a gun. Now, we have kids regularly assaulting others, but we're big into "special needs" and etc, so if a kid has a label, is "traumatized" or "dysregulated", they get a pass. It's ridiculous.

Good thing you quit.

 

[Unkotare]

So what exactly woul you do about a six year old with a gun in unknown condition?
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I would secure the kid's arms. Break one if necessary. Are you really this stupid?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I used to love teaching so much. Now, 10 days into retirement, I feel like I'm actually healing from a terrible experience

I've revealed it before, ours attend private school and I absolutely adore their teachers. They're dedicated and truly care about their students. I believe you were and did also but the system caused problems. I'm sorry you feel the way you do

 

[Seymour Flops]

I would secure the kid's arms. Break one if necessary. Are you really this stupid?

You will be fired and then sued, assuming that the kid will stand still and wait for you as you approach him and "secure" his arms, which seems highly unlikely. Most likely, he would pull out the gun and shoot you as soon as you started walking toward him.

Then, who would make the instant mashed potatoes for lunch?

I first asked you at six forty to be specific about what you would do. It took you more than three and a half hours to come up with even that lame answer about "secure the arms."

But . . . you are going to be super quick in dealing with life and death situations?


There should be a Walter Mitty forum for people like you to share such fantasies. Then the rest of us can have normal conversations.

 

[Unkotare]

You will be fired and then sued...

As opposed to shot and killed? Easy choice.

 

[Unkotare]

... assuming that the kid will stand still and wait for you as you approach him and "secure" his arms, which seems highly unlikely. Most likely, he would pull out the gun and shoot you as soon as you started walking toward him.
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Six years old.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Six years old.

And nearly killed a teacher with one shot.

 

[Unkotare]

... It took you more than three and a half hours to come up with even that lame answer ...

I do actually have classes to teach, you know.

 

[Seymour Flops]

As opposed to shot and killed? Easy choice.

The problem with that "reasoning" is that those were not the only options.

The teacher had been trained to notify admin in a case like that. That bringing no solution, calling 911 would be the logical next step, admin having failed to act.

Or evacuate the class, or go over the AP's head to the Principal or the superintendant.

I guess if he goes through your line and you see the gun, you could hit him with your serving spoon.

 

[Unkotare]

The problem with that "reasoning" is that those were not the only options.

The teacher had been trained to notify admin in a case like that. That bringing no solution, calling 911 would be the logical next step, admin having failed to act.

Or evacuate the class, or go over the AP's head to the Principal or the superintendant.

I guess if he goes through your line and you see the gun, you could hit him with your serving spoon.

There isn’t enough time to reach over and grab a little kid’s arm, but there is time to make at least two calls and evacuate the school?

 

[Seymour Flops]

There isn’t enough time to reach over and grab a little kid’s arm, but there is time to make at least two calls and evacuate the school?

I didn't say time was the problem and I didn't say evacuate the school.

Try again.

 

[Unkotare]

I didn't say time was the problem and I didn't say evacuate the school.

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Yeah, you kinda did.