Zone1 Tax the Rich! Make them Pay their Fair Share!

[Stryder50]

How about prorating where you only get as much from guv'mint as you paid in taxes .....

 

[Grumblenuts]

Which was only a response to someone else's comments about Social Security

Nope. Like so many others here, never, ever admit you simply fucked up. Reveals too much maturity.

and only to make them aware that "the rich" not only pay their own social security, they pay HALF of their employees' social security, also.

'Cause BULLDOG didn't know that already .

Plus Medicare.. even when one employs only themself.

 

[dblack]

How about prorating where you only get as much from guv'mint as you paid in taxes .....

How you going to quantify that?

 

[BULLDOG]

Nope. Like so many others here, never, ever admit you simply fucked up. Reveals too much maturity.

'Cause BULLDOG didn't know that already .

Plus Medicare.. even when one employs only themself.

It's illegal for any illegally employed person to file to receive Social Security or Medicare.

 

[Chuz Life]

Actually, the rich pay most of the taxes. If not for the top 5%, the rest of us would probably be paying double what we are now.

But I love the tax the rich argument! Tax them until they are poor and give it all to the poor so they can be rich.

Now, taxing the rich becomes taxing the poor.

Meanwhile, the poor never hire no one, and no poor person ever created a job nor business. So, in effect, taxing the rich just makes more people poorer.

It's amazing how a leftard brain seems to be able to see how increasing tariffs can and most often does result in increased prices to the consumers. . . But their fucktarded brains can't apply that same thought process to increased taxes on the 'rich.'

 

[dblack]

It's amazing how a leftard brain seems to be able to see how increasing tariffs can and most often does result in increased prices to the consumers. . . But their fucktarded brains can't apply that same thought process to increased taxes on the 'rich.'

"It's different when we do it!" - the defacto chorus of both parties.

 

[toobfreak]

It's amazing how a leftard brain seems to be able to see how increasing tariffs can and most often does result in increased prices to the consumers. . . But their fucktarded brains can't apply that same thought process to increased taxes on the 'rich.'

Or to increasing the min wage.

 

[Chuz Life]

Nope. Like so many others here, never, ever admit you simply fucked up. Reveals too much maturity.

A charge that is already completely refuted by this link in my Sig.

Post in thread 'This place hasn't changed a bit. Just checking in.'

Sep 12, 2025

CHUZ LIFE'S MIA CULPA

START: I WAS WRONG AND I OWN IT.

Let it be known that I am never EVER afraid to admit I was or am wrong, when it is made clear to me.


It is increasingly obvious that Charlie Kirk's murderer was NOT the person who told others that Kirk should be "evaporated" when he came to UVU and then followed that post with "something BIG is going to happen."

I was OBVIOUSLY pulled in by not only those comments, but also by the scrubbing and taunting by the owner of...

• Chuz Life

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[Chuz Life]

If you payout $1million per month it defeats the purpose paying more in dummy?

The maximum Social Security retirement benefit in 2025 is $5,108 per month for individuals who delay claiming benefits until age 70.
This maximum is available only to those who have earned the maximum taxable amount—$176,100 in 2025—for at least 35 years of their career.

If anyone in the private sector were to try to run a pyramid scheme that is precisely modeled after Social Security, the Feds would shut it down and lock the managers of the scheme up for life.

 

[leftwinger]

Actually, the rich pay most of the taxes. If not for the top 5%, the rest of us would probably be paying double what we are now.

But I love the tax the rich argument! Tax them until they are poor and give it all to the poor so they can be rich.

Now, taxing the rich becomes taxing the poor.

Meanwhile, the poor never hire no one, and no poor person ever created a job nor business. So, in effect, taxing the rich just makes more people poorer.

Why did not Obiden raise the Captial Gains tax over 12 years. Now they bellyache? That would hit the wealthy, correct?

 

[leftwinger]

If anyone in the private sector were to try to run a pyramid scheme that is precisely modeled after Social Security, the Feds would shut it down and lock the managers of the scheme up for life.

it will all work out if they can get another virus spread into all nursing homes.

 

[dblack]

If anyone in the private sector were to try to run a pyramid scheme that is precisely modeled after Social Security, the Feds would shut it down and lock the managers of the scheme up for life.

Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes (from my favorite TV series, Firefly):

Shepherd Book: "A government is a body of people, usually, notably ungoverned."

 

[leftwinger]

Lets do some simple math....

( $176,100 x 12.4%) x 35 years = ~$750K total paid in over a short working career for a highly-paid.

The SS formula says this is worth $5K/mo payback open-ended. How did they arrive at that number?

$750K/$5K = 150 payments to exhaust the supply (ignoring any interest gained, COLA etc.).
150 payments is 12.5yrs. So the AVG life expectancy (used by SS) was ~83 years old.
Seems about right.

When I looked into age 62 or 66-67 payback, it made little sense to wait to unless you knew you would live more than 13 yrs. Who knows how long you have?

 

[leftwinger]

Just to clarify, ya, SS is a tax.

WW

View attachment 1173137

26 U.S. Code § 3101 - Rate of tax

law.cornell.edu

Well they called the ACA medical payments a TAX also? Why not. Everything they can collect is a TAX.

 

[Chuz Life]

You didn't say Social Security exclusively, you talked about tax burden.

It was said in the OP: "In my view, each and every citizens "tax burden" should initially be the same dollar amount. Thereafter, there should be taxes based on usage. For example, if you have a trucking company with 200 trucks running up and down the road every day."

Social Security is part of the tax burden along with:

• Federal Income Tax Rate
• State Income Tax rates
• Property Tax (Land)
• Property Tax (Non-land)
• Sales Tax
• Embedded Taxes (local, state, federal)

WW

Then I should have been more clear.

Social Security (which I ******* despise and oppose) is supposed to be "self funding"

(Though, just as it is with most other pyramid schemes, it isn't.)

https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/IF/PDF/IF11615/IF11615.1.pdf

The point of the OP is, was, and remains to be about "fairness" when it comes to the overall tax burden of each and every "citizen."

Social Security is but one part of that burden, and as we (I and others) have already shown, Social Security is just another way to take from the "rich" and give to the poor.

Mandated Charity (forced at gunpoint and/ or at the threat of jail time) is not 'charity.'

It's involuntary servitude.

 

[Chuz Life]

it will all work out if they can get another virus spread into all nursing homes.

The irony (timing of Covid) was never lost on me.

Post in thread 'Coronavirus biological warfare between USA and China?'

Mar 15, 2020

I think it is possible that it was/ is a virus that was in the PROCESS of being weaponized and it somehow "got out" into the populace un-intentionally. . . OR, at worse as some form of test run.

Coronavirus (COVID=19) is not that devastating though, as biological weapons go. So far, it only primarily targets and kills elderly (mostly men) who have other underlying health issues they are dealing with.

I doubt very much that China's military strategy or goal would be geared towards knocking more and more elderly off with the result of simply halting their own production and export...

• Chuz Life

 

[Rambunctious]

Another word for Tax the Rich... is Tax the job creators... and risk takers... its alway retired people who never prepared for retirement who want to tax the rich...
If you had to look for a job and there weren't any because the rich aren't as rich due to taxes you would think differently about taxing the rich...

 

[Stryder50]

How you going to quantify that?

Good question. Just a thought in it's infancy, could use some gestation.
Current systems also seem a bit short in some areas of quantify.

 

[candycorn]

Then I should have been more clear.

Social Security (which I ******* despise and oppose) is supposed to be "self funding"

(Though, just as it is with most other pyramid schemes, it isn't.)

https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/IF/PDF/IF11615/IF11615.1.pdf

The point of the OP is, was, and remains to be about "fairness" when it comes to the overall tax burden of each and every "citizen."

Social Security is but one part of that burden, and as we (I and others) have already shown, Social Security is just another way to take from the "rich" and give to the poor.

Mandated Charity (forced at gunpoint and/ or at the threat of jail time) is not 'charity.'

It's involuntary servitude.

Well, whatever you want to call it/whine about it...its part of the tax burden and should be shared evenly among the rich and the poor. Every dollar made should be taxed the same way. Its the very definition of fairness.

 

[candycorn]

It's amazing how a leftard brain seems to be able to see how increasing tariffs can and most often does result in increased prices to the consumers. . . But their fucktarded brains can't apply that same thought process to increased taxes on the 'rich.'

Its amazing how you think anyone who is rich employs people. Just to name an actor, Jon Hamm (sp) probably doesn't employ very many people. Neither does Aaron Judge. So they're not going to "raise their price". Lets say you make that cokehead Don Jr. start paying SS taxes on every penny he ears. Is he going to "raise his price"....on what exactly? LOL

Sounds to me you have a "fucktarded" brain.