CDZ Support for Gay Marriage grows

[Leo123]

Property rights,pensions and inheritance is also tied up with it.

So create a Trust.

 

[Papageorgio]

We don't need to push our ideas of what is right or wrong on other countries. We need to mind our own business and let other countries decide for themselves. The whole idea that America needs to force our ideals on other nations is ridiculous.

Tommy you bitch and moan about US interference then you want our country to exert itself when you want your agenda pushed. Let countries rule themselves.

 

[jillian]

Gay Marriage Around the World

Support for equality grows every year with a total of 30 countries legalising it so far. The number increases every year and the countries that are hostile seem to be places which are ruled by religious extremists .

This is backed up by polling which shows support at around 2 thirds in favour in Australia,US and up to 80% plus in Sweden.

I cant see this trend being reversed and can see the majority of nations having similar laws in the next decade.

In the spirit of all men being created equal should the US and EU countries take steps to encourage this ? What would you like to see ?

For myself I think it can be difficult to overturn prejudice and I dont really know whether the stick or carrot is the best way forward.

People who are prejudiced should simply mind their own business

 

[jillian]

Property rights,pensions and inheritance is also tied up with it.

So create a Trust.

then they aren’t equal under the law. That’s the point.

 

[Picaro]

So in Tommy Logic the 'growing support' for Adolph Hitler during the 1920's means we should all have joined the Nazi Party?

 

[Picaro]

Gay Marriage Around the World

Support for equality grows every year with a total of 30 countries legalising it so far. The number increases every year and the countries that are hostile seem to be places which are ruled by religious extremists .

This is backed up by polling which shows support at around 2 thirds in favour in Australia,US and up to 80% plus in Sweden.

I cant see this trend being reversed and can see the majority of nations having similar laws in the next decade.

In the spirit of all men being created equal should the US and EU countries take steps to encourage this ? What would you like to see ?

For myself I think it can be difficult to overturn prejudice and I dont really know whether the stick or carrot is the best way forward.

People who are prejudiced should simply mind their own business

Yes, which is why sniveling sicko deviants and their sicko fans need to be shoved back into their closets and ignored.

 

[initforme]

Tell me when gay marriage is some kind of threat to my traditional one. Until then I gotta wash my hair. Toughen up buttercups

 

[alang1216]

I think leading by example is the best way. The US allows gay marriage and society hasn't yet fallen apart. Any pressure would be seen negatively.

So shooting children full of hormones and other goodies is okay with you, eh? Feel the same when your 'poor hapless faggots' get pedophilia legalized? It's movement started by pedophiles, for pedophiles, but hey, as long as it's fashionable with Hollywood and sociopaths it must be okay.

I have no idea what you think the connection is between gay marriage and "shooting children full of hormones and other goodies"??

That's because you're a sicko who doesn't like addressing the obvious.

I don't think gays are any more subject to pedophilia than heteros.

Well, you don't think at all, then; they commit rapes of children in far higher numbers than their percentage of the population would warrant.

Catholic priests that have been caught appeared to prey on both boys and girls.

Actually over 805 of them raped exclusively boys. Again you just like to help faggots peddle fake news.

"Hollywood and sociopaths" may want to legitimize pedophilia but it will never happen in your lifetime so don't sweat it.

Sure, because you said so, the guy who apparently likes to play Stupid about the facts.In the meantime, you Pedo-Friendies can cheer your successes like the sick shit you're inflicting on this kid, but hey, it's 'in the privacy of his home', which is also apparently makes it fine with Libertarians and right wingers as well.

Anne Georgulas | LifeSite

Yes, this should make you feel all 'progressive n stuff', right?

You sir are uninformed. Below is my evidence, please feel free to share yours.

MYTH # 1
Gay men molest children at far higher rates than heterosexuals.

THE ARGUMENT
Depicting gay men as a threat to children may be the single most potent weapon for stoking public fears about homosexuality — and for winning elections and referenda, as Anita Bryant found out during her successful 1977 campaign to overturn a Dade County, Fla., ordinance barring discrimination against gay people. Discredited psychologist Paul Cameron, the most ubiquitous purveyor of anti-gay junk science, has been a major promoter of this myth. Despite having been debunked repeatedly and very publicly, Cameron's work is still widely relied upon by anti-gay organizations, although many no longer quote him by name. Others have cited a group called the American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) to claim, as Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council did in November 2010, that "the research is overwhelming that homosexuality poses a [molestation] danger to children." A related myth is that same-sex parents will molest their children.

THE FACTS
According to the American Psychological Association, children are not more likely to be molested by LGBT parents or their LGBT friends or acquaintances. Gregory Herek, a professor at the University of California, Davis, who is one of the nation's leading researchers on prejudice against sexual minorities, reviewed a series of studies and found no evidence that gay men molest children at higher rates than heterosexual men.​

So some faggots with professional degrees published some fake 'science', and you think they can sell it as 'evidence'? lol that's funny. So why do 'Gay Rights' advocates deny their 'movement' was founded by a pedophile and pedophile gangs like NAMBLA were founding organizations in the ILGA, if they're not ashamed of being pedophiles and endorsing pedophiles as 'oppressed victims'? You sickos are a joke, and too bad for you fewer and fewer people are suckered by the bullshit you're spreading. You can't hlep yourselves, you hang yourselves weekly with some disgusting crap or other, like injecting 6 year old kids with hormones to feed your fetishes.

Impressive how you write so much and say so little. Got any facts behind your insults and innuendos? It's hard to take you seriously but thankfully fewer and fewer people are suckered by the bullshit you're spreading. Currently almost 2/3 of the country supports gay marriage.

 

[alang1216]

Tell me when gay marriage is some kind of threat to my traditional one. Until then I gotta wash my hair. Toughen up buttercups

Methinks they doth protest too much

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Gay Marriage Around the World

Support for equality grows every year with a total of 30 countries legalising it so far. The number increases every year and the countries that are hostile seem to be places which are ruled by religious extremists .

This is backed up by polling which shows support at around 2 thirds in favour in Australia,US and up to 80% plus in Sweden.

I cant see this trend being reversed and can see the majority of nations having similar laws in the next decade.

In the spirit of all men being created equal should the US and EU countries take steps to encourage this ? What would you like to see ?

For myself I think it can be difficult to overturn prejudice and I dont really know whether the stick or carrot is the best way forward.

People who are prejudiced should simply mind their own business

Yes, which is why sniveling sicko deviants and their sicko fans need to be shoved back into their closets and ignored.

I cant see how a dwindling minority would accomplish that.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Danica Roem Is First Out Trans Person Reelected to a State Legislature


The first out transgender person to serve in a state legislature, having been elected to the Virginia House of Delegates in 2017, Democrat Roem Tuesday became the first one to win reelection to a state lawmaking body.

In addition to her victory, four other LGBTQ candidates, all Democrats, were reelected to the Virginia legislature — three in the House of Delegates, one in the Senate — helping to flip both chambers to Democratic control. This gives the party a trifecta in Virginia state government, as the state already has a Democratic governor, who did not have to run for reelection this year, and makes it likely that Virginia will finally enact an LGBTQ-inclusive nondiscrimination law.


More positive news from the US. Electing people on their merits rather than what they are is the mark of an advanced society.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Gay Marriage Around the World

Support for equality grows every year with a total of 30 countries legalising it so far. The number increases every year and the countries that are hostile seem to be places which are ruled by religious extremists .

This is backed up by polling which shows support at around 2 thirds in favour in Australia,US and up to 80% plus in Sweden.

I cant see this trend being reversed and can see the majority of nations having similar laws in the next decade.

In the spirit of all men being created equal should the US and EU countries take steps to encourage this ? What would you like to see ?

For myself I think it can be difficult to overturn prejudice and I dont really know whether the stick or carrot is the best way forward.

It is my opinion that America was founded as a very special place and it can only be understood by reading this sermon that was delivered in 1630 by John Winthrop and quoted all the way up to the time of JFK and Ronald Reagan:

https://www.casa-arts.org/cms/lib/PA01925203/Centricity/Domain/50/A Model of Christian Charity.pdf

What we base our decision on is not dependent upon what other countries do or do not do. When America observed their founding principles and remained true to the goals and objectives upon which we were founded - and the direction the colonists began in, this nation was blessed above all the nations of the earth. We should base our decisions upon what is right and what is wrong.

For the Christian, homosexuality is a sin. In its proper perspective, however, no sin is greater than another, so it is immoral to single out people based upon their homosexuality and treat them any different than any other sinner. We tolerate people who abuse alcohol, destroy their bodies with cigarettes and drugs; we even tolerate inter-racial marriage. People who eat like pigs, adorn their bodies with body piercings and have tattoos are all committing sins. So, the gay people get no special condemnation for their sins and Christians should not treat the gay any different for their sins.

As a pragmatist, I know that the word prejudice is when you hold a belief without thought, knowledge, or reason. So, I have given this much thought outside my own belief as a Christian.

America is headed toward socialism. We all throw money into a big pot now and expect the government to hand us a Social Security check when we get old enough. That system is only viable when people put money into that pot. If you're gay, you do not reproduce. If you don't reproduce, there is no working generation to pay into the pot so that Social Security remains viable. That is worth thinking over.

Before you say to me that it is not your responsibility to reproduce for your fellow Americans benefit, then I would counter as to why we are headed toward socialism then. Why should your fellow man put money into any pot, by force, for the benefit of others when it offends his moral beliefs? If I put money into insurance premiums and that money is paid toward sex change operations or paying for diseases transmitted via sexual intercourse, am I not being forced to subsidize a practice that is morally unacceptable? I'm not claiming to be right on this, just showing a couple of instances where it is not cut and dried. How far we go in any "acceptance" of gay marriage or a gay lifestyle deserves asking really uncomfortable questions.

 

[Leo123]

Danica Roem Is First Out Trans Person Reelected to a State Legislature


The first out transgender person to serve in a state legislature, having been elected to the Virginia House of Delegates in 2017, Democrat Roem Tuesday became the first one to win reelection to a state lawmaking body.

In addition to her victory, four other LGBTQ candidates, all Democrats, were reelected to the Virginia legislature — three in the House of Delegates, one in the Senate — helping to flip both chambers to Democratic control. This gives the party a trifecta in Virginia state government, as the state already has a Democratic governor, who did not have to run for reelection this year, and makes it likely that Virginia will finally enact an LGBTQ-inclusive nondiscrimination law.


More positive news from the US. Electing people on their merits rather than what they are is the mark of an advanced society.

Sounds like a typical Democrat stronghold when all they have to do is 'enact' a law.

 

[jwoodie]

Tell me when gay marriage is some kind of threat to my traditional one. Until then I gotta wash my hair. Toughen up buttercups

Children growing up in traditional families fare much better than those who don't. So why promote alternatives?

 

[initforme]

It takes alot of $ to have and raise kids which is why more and more young married working couples are choosing not to have kids instead focusing on careers and other things. Can't blame them. It's not their job to have kids for the good of the nation. If they want kids that's great, but for their own needs and reasons.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

It takes alot of $ to have and raise kids which is why more and more young married working couples are choosing not to have kids instead focusing on careers and other things. Can't blame them. It's not their job to have kids for the good of the nation. If they want kids that's great, but for their own needs and reasons.

It is not the job of other Americans to accept other people if you feel their lifestyle offends your sensibilities.

Since it's not our job to have kids for the "good of the nation," neither is it our job to be forced to put our money into one pot for the rest of participants. So, you and I don't belong in a socialist society.

 

[initforme]

We don't have a socialists society...not even close. Nothing resembles socialism.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

We don't have a socialists society...not even close. Nothing resembles socialism.

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Gay Marriage Around the World

Support for equality grows every year with a total of 30 countries legalising it so far. The number increases every year and the countries that are hostile seem to be places which are ruled by religious extremists .

This is backed up by polling which shows support at around 2 thirds in favour in Australia,US and up to 80% plus in Sweden.

I cant see this trend being reversed and can see the majority of nations having similar laws in the next decade.

In the spirit of all men being created equal should the US and EU countries take steps to encourage this ? What would you like to see ?

For myself I think it can be difficult to overturn prejudice and I dont really know whether the stick or carrot is the best way forward.

It is my opinion that America was founded as a very special place and it can only be understood by reading this sermon that was delivered in 1630 by John Winthrop and quoted all the way up to the time of JFK and Ronald Reagan:

https://www.casa-arts.org/cms/lib/PA01925203/Centricity/Domain/50/A Model of Christian Charity.pdf

What we base our decision on is not dependent upon what other countries do or do not do. When America observed their founding principles and remained true to the goals and objectives upon which we were founded - and the direction the colonists began in, this nation was blessed above all the nations of the earth. We should base our decisions upon what is right and what is wrong.

For the Christian, homosexuality is a sin. In its proper perspective, however, no sin is greater than another, so it is immoral to single out people based upon their homosexuality and treat them any different than any other sinner. We tolerate people who abuse alcohol, destroy their bodies with cigarettes and drugs; we even tolerate inter-racial marriage. People who eat like pigs, adorn their bodies with body piercings and have tattoos are all committing sins. So, the gay people get no special condemnation for their sins and Christians should not treat the gay any different for their sins.

As a pragmatist, I know that the word prejudice is when you hold a belief without thought, knowledge, or reason. So, I have given this much thought outside my own belief as a Christian.

America is headed toward socialism. We all throw money into a big pot now and expect the government to hand us a Social Security check when we get old enough. That system is only viable when people put money into that pot. If you're gay, you do not reproduce. If you don't reproduce, there is no working generation to pay into the pot so that Social Security remains viable. That is worth thinking over.

Before you say to me that it is not your responsibility to reproduce for your fellow Americans benefit, then I would counter as to why we are headed toward socialism then. Why should your fellow man put money into any pot, by force, for the benefit of others when it offends his moral beliefs? If I put money into insurance premiums and that money is paid toward sex change operations or paying for diseases transmitted via sexual intercourse, am I not being forced to subsidize a practice that is morally unacceptable? I'm not claiming to be right on this, just showing a couple of instances where it is not cut and dried. How far we go in any "acceptance" of gay marriage or a gay lifestyle deserves asking really uncomfortable questions.

Taxation is not a pick and mix. We vote for parties with different spending plans and choose the one most aligned to our values. If you object to money being spent on birth control or sex changes then vote for the party that is against that. If there isnt a party then set one up.

In terms of your socialism thoughts it puzzles me. Insurance schemes are how you deal with some of lifes misfortunes. Socialism is how we deal with some of that. We are all going to get old or sick. We pay into a fund to cover us from those eventualities.The UK welfare state protects us all by virtue of its size and makes us a civilised and caring society. The NHS protects us all and has never caused anybody to go bankrupt.

Gay folk arent asking for any handouts. They just want the equality they are entitled to.

 

[anynameyouwish]

Be pretend married. I just roll my eyes

How does pretend marriage work out for you?

ZING!

excellent!