The Surrender Of The United States To Russia.

[Zavulon]

The Soviets were worse guys than the Nazis.

As if "Western Allies" (tm) were somehow better than the Nazies.
It's simply meaningless to say that one man/group of man/political or economic system is better than other until you determine for what exactly purpose, they suppose to be "better" or "worse".

 

[GLASNOST]

Are you really leaning on "promises"? Do you not realize that the US promised not to expand NATO to the East? Are you also unaware of the promises made in Istanbul and in Minsk? I am asking if you are selectively playing righteous in one direction but not in the other?

I am well aware of the Budapest Memorandum where the U.S. and Russia promised not to invade the Ukraine if they gave up their nuclear weapons. But that has nothing to do with the $182.8 billion the U.S. has allocated to the Ukraine to support them. (Not the BS 350 billion Trump lies about) Basically, the check has already been written. But of that $182.2 billion, only $83.4 billion has actually been sent.

I was right .... you are selectively griping over details and ignoring the big picture,

As far as Trump goes we'll just to wait and see if he is making the right decisions or not. The consequences are the only way to know and - that takes some time,

 

[Deadstick]

Neither do you. You lock up the people who point them out.

That's why your country is collapsing around you.

Like who?

 

[Deadstick]

Bullshit? Everything Trump is doing are things that no doubt Putin wants to see happen. That sounds an awful lot like surrender to me.

Or common sense and facing reality.

 

[Deadstick]

If an ass had an ass, you would be talking out of it. Next, the Ukraine decided to invade Russia. They have taken over much of the Kursk region. Next, in WWII, the Nazis weren't the bad guys. "WE" were! And there are many Russian Nazis. Here are some pictures of them. And there are MANY others besides.

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Difference is those pricks are a small minority of loons who would be swept off the streets, in Ukraine they are part of the Regime and integrated into the Army, groups like Azov etc, so shove your deflection up your arse.

 

[GLASNOST]

Bullshit? Everything Trump is doing are things that no doubt Putin wants to see happen. That sounds an awful lot like surrender to me.

Or common sense and facing reality.

Well, you see Deadstick, if you and I happen to agree on any one subject it simply MUST be that one of us has surrendered to the other. It just isn't possible that we both want peace to reign in Europe independently of one another. At least that’s what the brainless twats believe.

 

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The Soviets were worse guys than the Nazis.

Yes. By FAR.

 

[Deadstick]

Yes. By FAR.

Is that why the Western allies fought on the same side as the Soviet Union you Moron and not the Nazis.?

 

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Difference is those pricks are a small minority of loons who would be swept off the streets, in Ukraine they are part of the Regime and integrated into the Army, groups like Azov etc, so shove your deflection up your arse.

Deflection? I was just telling it how it is. In my AI search on the subject, it starts out by saying, "Neo-Nazism is a significant but not widely popular movement." If you want to know more on the topic, go here.


Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Neo-Nazism_in_Russia

Neo-Nazism in Russia - Wikipedia

As for Nazism being more popular in the Ukraine, why shouldn't it be. Ever hear of the Holodomor? As many as 16 million Ukrainians were basically murdered by the Russians. So **** Russia and anybody who supports them. Such as Trump supporting Putin.

 

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Is that why the Western allies fought on the same side as the Soviet Union you Moron and not the Nazis.?

Go ahead and hold onto your delusions. I couldn't debate such topics here.

 

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I was right .... you are selectively griping over details and ignoring the big picture,

As far as Trump goes we'll just to wait and see if he is making the right decisions or not. The consequences are the only way to know and - that takes some time,

You were wrong. And I know the big picture. Also, what did you make of that 60 Minutes video I posted. I bet you didn't watch it. I have heard it said, "Ignorance doesn't make you stupid. Not wanting to know the truth makes you stupid." If you didn't watch the video, you know what that makes you. But I wonder if being so even bothers you. Next, it is clear that Trump is making the wrong decisions. Only a stupid person couldn't see it. Maybe knowing some truths about Trump himself can help you. Here are some for you.

 

[Zavulon]

Deflection? I was just telling it how it is. In my AI search on the subject, it starts out by saying, "Neo-Nazism is a significant but not widely popular movement." If you want to know more on the topic, go here.

Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Neo-Nazism_in_Russia
Neo-Nazism in Russia - Wikipedia

Nazism in Ukraine is not very popular among common people, that's why more than 70% of Ukrainians voted for the Russian-speaking Jew, who promised peace and equal rights. But it is quite popular among the leadership of Kievan regime. May be not Nazi ideas by themselves, but Nazi (European and American) money payed to establishing "democracy" in the European understanding of the term (i.e. for ban of all alternative parties, open mass-murders of political opponents, stealing property, discrimination of language, culture and religion of certain groups, cancel of elections and so on ...)

As for Nazism being more popular in the Ukraine, why shouldn't it be. Ever hear of the Holodomor? As many as 16 million Ukrainians were basically murdered by the Russians. So **** Russia and anybody who supports them. Such as Trump supporting Putin.

Actually, Holodomor was the most severe in Western Ukraine, in time controlled by Poland. And, of course, Ukraine wasn't the only place struggling from famine. Heard anything about famine in Kazakhstan and Volga region, or even about Great Depression?
And what is even more important, the fact that the Stalin's government in Russia, or Pilsudski's government in Poland were not good in saving peasants lifes (but both of them made a lot for industrialization of their countries, one may even say that they sacrificed peasants for forcing industrialization) , has nothing to do with the fact, that Nazi ideas are simply wrong.

 

[Deadstick]

Deflection? I was just telling it how it is. In my AI search on the subject, it starts out by saying, "Neo-Nazism is a significant but not widely popular movement." If you want to know more on the topic, go here.

Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Neo-Nazism_in_Russia
Neo-Nazism in Russia - Wikipedia
As for Nazism being more popular in the Ukraine, why shouldn't it be. Ever hear of the Holodomor? As many as 16 million Ukrainians were basically murdered by the Russians. So **** Russia and anybody who supports them. Such as Trump supporting Putin.

So no Russians dies in the so called Holodomor? most of that was down to the shock of agricultural reform and mismanagement, now don't you have an SS reunion meeting to get to you asshole.

 

[GLASNOST]

.... Everything Trump is doing are things that no doubt Putin wants to see happen. That sounds an awful lot like surrender to me.

Is that why the Western allies fought on the same side as the Soviet Union you Moron and not the Nazis.?

Yes, the US did everything Stalin wanted Washington to do. It sounds like the Americans surrendered to the Sovjet Union. It stands to reason.

 

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Nazism in Ukraine is not very popular among common people, that's why more than 70% of Ukrainians voted for the Russian-speaking Jew, who promised peace and equal rights. But it is quite popular among the leadership of Kievan regime. May be not Nazi ideas by themselves, but Nazi (European and American) money payed to establishing "democracy" in the European understanding of the term (i.e. for ban of all alternative parties, open mass-murders of political opponents, stealing property, discrimination of language, culture and religion of certain groups, cancel of elections and so on ...)

Actually, Holodomor was the most severe in Western Ukraine, in time controlled by Poland. And, of course, Ukraine wasn't the only place struggling from famine. Heard anything about famine in Kazakhstan and Volga region, or even about Great Depression?
And what is even more important, the fact that the Stalin's government in Russia, or Pilsudski's government in Poland were not good in saving peasants lifes (but both of them made a lot for industrialization of their countries, one may even say that they sacrificed peasants for forcing industrialization) , has nothing to do with the fact, that Nazi ideas are simply wrong.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. And lucky for you, you aren't at a forum that allows the truth to be spoken. So enjoy your ignorance, mindless slave.

 

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So no Russians dies in the so called Holodomor? most of that was down to the shock of agricultural reform and mismanagement, now don't you have an SS reunion meeting to get to you asshole.

It is strange that Stalin would still have a parrot that still alive after all these years. How about you just stop replying to me. There is only so much mindless filth I can handle.

 

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Yes, the US did everything Stalin wanted Washington to do. It sounds like the Americans surrendered to the Sovjet Union. It stands to reason.

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Indeed. We would have been FAR better off backing Hitler rather than Stalin.

 

[Zavulon]

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

And you have?

And lucky for you, you aren't at a forum that allows the truth to be spoken.

And what exactly is that terrible "truth", that can't be spoken at USMB? Any hints?

So enjoy your ignorance, mindless slave.

"The people around you may not want to know the truth...." SVR wants. Contact them, if you really have any reliable and useful information.

 

[Deadstick]

It is strange that Stalin would still have a parrot that still alive after all these years. How about you just stop replying to me. There is only so much mindless filth I can handle.

There is only so much truth and facts you can take now run along.

 

[Deadstick]

Indeed. We would have been FAR better off backing Hitler rather than Stalin.

I bet you really regret you were born too late to join the Waffen SS