The MAFIA killed Oswald

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Jack Ruby was a career mafia associate going back to Al Capone

His Dallas night club was a mafia club run by the famous boss of New Orleans , Marcelo

He had the right police connections too

Oswald was a huge liability to the CIA and mob
 
Jack Ruby was a career mafia associate going back to Al Capone

Didn't Rose Marie as a child singing star, sing for Al Capone in his night clubs? You know, Rose Marie as an adult 30 years later who also then stared in the 1960s TV sitcom 'The Dick Van Dyke Show.'



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Jack Ruby was a career mafia associate going back to Al Capone

His Dallas night club was a mafia club run by the famous boss of New Orleans , Marcelo

He had the right police connections too

Oswald was a huge liability to the CIA and mob
my favorite part of your story is when Brigham Young wrestled with the bear and fell out of the Salt lake temple window into the Great Salt Lake
 
Jack Ruby was a career mafia associate going back to Al Capone

His Dallas night club was a mafia club run by the famous boss of New Orleans , Marcelo

He had the right police connections too

Oswald was a huge liability to the CIA and mob
IIn 1979, the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) overturned the Warren Commission's whitewash of Jack Ruby and concluded that Ruby was hired by the Mafia to silence Oswald. Among many other things, the HSCA found that Ruby's FBI polygraph actually indicated he was lying when he denied he took part in a conspiracy to kill JFK. Subsequent research by scholars such as David Scheim, John Davis, and Lamar Waldron has unearthed additional evidence of Ruby's Mafia ties, of his lies about how he entered the police basement and why he shot Oswald, and of the Mafia's role in the JFK assassination.

I devote several pages to discussing Ruby, his Mafia ties, his actions on the day of the assassination, and his killing of Oswald in my book A Comforting Lie: The Myth that a Lone Gunman Killed President Kennedy.
 
Jack Ruby was a career mafia associate going back to Al Capone

His Dallas night club was a mafia club run by the famous boss of New Orleans , Marcelo

He had the right police connections too

Oswald was a huge liability to the CIA and mob
Ruby was a low level manager of a Strip Club

On the day he shot Oswald, he was across the street at a Western Union wiring one of his strippers some money mere minutes before he shot Oswald. He was there at the time Oswald was supposed to be transferred. Oswald was delayed

He only anticipated being at Western Union a few minutes and had his favorite dog waiting in the car.

He saw a commotion across the street at the Police Station so Ruby wandered over. He arrived moments before Oswald came down and was in position to make the shot.

The rest is history
 
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Ruby was a low level manager of a Strip Club
Oh my. This is just comical. His phone records prove he made numerous phone calls to contacts at the highest levels of the Mafia in the weeks leading up to the assassination. Guess who visited Ruby after he was arrested? The Mafia boss for Dallas, Joseph Civello. You might break down and read the HSCA's section on Ruby's Mafia connections. He was much more than a "low-level manager of a strip club." The Mafia boss of a large city does not visit a low-level club manager in jail.

On the day he shot Oswald, he was across the street at a Western Union wiring one of his strippers some money mere minutes before he shot Oswald. He was there at the time Oswald was supposed to be transferred. Oswald was delayed.

He only anticipated being at Western Union a few minutes and had his favorite dog waiting in the car.

He saw a commotion across the street at the Police Station so Ruby wandered over. He arrived moments before Oswald came down and was in position to make the shot.
Sigh. . . . Just sigh. . . . The HSCA destroyed this mythical cover story. The HSCA proved Ruby lied about how he got into the basement and noted that Ruby himself admitted to his second attorney, in writing, that his story about why he shot Oswald was false--the note surfaced after the Warren Report was published. Ruby called the police department and warned them that Oswald would be shot if they didn't change their transfer arrangements.

There was a Western Union office blocks away from Ruby's residence in Oak Cliff, yet he drove all the way into downtown Dallas to buy the money order. After he parked his car in a garage across the street from the downtown Western Union office, his odd behavior continued: Instead of keeping his keys and billfold in his pockets as anyone would normally do, he put his keys in the trunk of the car, then locked the trunk, with almost $900 in cash inside, and placed the trunk key and his billfold in the glove compartment, without locking the car doors. Are you kidding me? Who does that? That makes no sense.

Carrying almost a grand in cash would have been a good excuse for carrying a handgun. But with the cash strangely placed in his car trunk with the trunk key in the glove box and the car doors unlocked, he had no reason to carry a concealed and unlicensed handgun supposedly just to get a money order.

Furthermore, if Ruby was merely on his way with his dog to his nightclub on a Sunday morning, when the nightclub was closed, why was he "dressed like a detective," with a suit and tie, instead of just wearing casual clothing?

His actions that morning hardly seem unrehearsed and spontaneous, much less credible; rather, they come across as clumsily staged and contrived in an effort to make his shooting of Oswald look like a spur-of-the-moment action.

And then there's Karen Carlin, who supposedly called Ruby that morning and asked him to send her money for rent and food and for whom Ruby bought the Western Union money order. When Secret Service agent Roger C. Warner interviewed Carlin later that day, in Warner's words, she "twisted in her chair, stammered in her speech, and seemed on the point of hysteria." She told Warner, according to his Warren Commission affidavit, that she was "under the impression" that Oswald, Ruby, and others unknown to her were "involved in a plot to assassinate President Kennedy and that she would be killed if she gave any information to the authorities." She later calmed down in the interview and said "she had no information in her possession" that Ruby was involved in a conspiracy, but she asked that all she related "be kept confidential to prevent retaliation against her in case there was a plot afoot." Months later she testified to the Warren Commission that she called Ruby around 10 o'clock that morning to ask for money for rent and groceries. She also testified that she thought Ruby "had connections with Lee Harvey Oswald," but she insisted there was "nothing to base it on, except my own opinion."

The rest is history.
Your "history" is decades out-of-date.

We should keep in mind that two documents released in 2017 reveal that Ruby had advance knowledge of the assassination. The documents reveal that shortly before the shooting, Ruby invited a man named Bob Vanderslice to watch JFK’s motorcade with him and to “watch the fireworks.” Ruby met Vanderslice at the Postal Annex Building in Dealey Plaza before JFK’s motorcade entered the plaza. The two men then watched the shooting. Ruby did not know that Vanderslice was an informant for the Intelligence Division of the IRS office in Dallas. When Vanderslice saw news reports in 1977 about a new JFK assassination investigation, he decided he should tell his IRS contact about the incident, which resulted in two reports being filed on the matter.
 
Oh my. This is just comical. His phone records prove he made numerous phone calls to contacts at the highest levels of the Mafia in the weeks leading up to the assassination. Guess who visited Ruby after he was arrested? The Mafia boss for Dallas, Joseph Civello. You might break down and read the HSCA's section on Ruby's Mafia connections. He was much more than a "low-level manager of a strip club." The Mafia boss of a large city does not visit a low-level club manager in jail.


Sigh. . . . Just sigh. . . . The HSCA destroyed this mythical cover story. The HSCA proved Ruby lied about how he got into the basement and noted that Ruby himself admitted to his second attorney, in writing, that his story about why he shot Oswald was false--the note surfaced after the Warren Report was published. Ruby called the police department and warned them that Oswald would be shot if they didn't change their transfer arrangements.

There was a Western Union office blocks away from Ruby's residence in Oak Cliff, yet he drove all the way into downtown Dallas to buy the money order. After he parked his car in a garage across the street from the downtown Western Union office, his odd behavior continued: Instead of keeping his keys and billfold in his pockets as anyone would normally do, he put his keys in the trunk of the car, then locked the trunk, with almost $900 in cash inside, and placed the trunk key and his billfold in the glove compartment, without locking the car doors. Are you kidding me? Who does that? That makes no sense.

Carrying almost a grand in cash would have been a good excuse for carrying a handgun. But with the cash strangely placed in his car trunk with the trunk key in the glove box and the car doors unlocked, he had no reason to carry a concealed and unlicensed handgun supposedly just to get a money order.

Furthermore, if Ruby was merely on his way with his dog to his nightclub on a Sunday morning, when the nightclub was closed, why was he "dressed like a detective," with a suit and tie, instead of just wearing casual clothing?

His actions that morning hardly seem unrehearsed and spontaneous, much less credible; rather, they come across as clumsily staged and contrived in an effort to make his shooting of Oswald look like a spur-of-the-moment action.

And then there's Karen Carlin, who supposedly called Ruby that morning and asked him to send her money for rent and food and for whom Ruby bought the Western Union money order. When Secret Service agent Roger C. Warner interviewed Carlin later that day, in Warner's words, she "twisted in her chair, stammered in her speech, and seemed on the point of hysteria." She told Warner, according to his Warren Commission affidavit, that she was "under the impression" that Oswald, Ruby, and others unknown to her were "involved in a plot to assassinate President Kennedy and that she would be killed if she gave any information to the authorities." She later calmed down in the interview and said "she had no information in her possession" that Ruby was involved in a conspiracy, but she asked that all she related "be kept confidential to prevent retaliation against her in case there was a plot afoot." Months later she testified to the Warren Commission that she called Ruby around 10 o'clock that morning to ask for money for rent and groceries. She also testified that she thought Ruby "had connections with Lee Harvey Oswald," but she insisted there was "nothing to base it on, except my own opinion."


Your "history" is decades out-of-date.

We should keep in mind that two documents released in 2017 reveal that Ruby had advance knowledge of the assassination. The documents reveal that shortly before the shooting, Ruby invited a man named Bob Vanderslice to watch JFK’s motorcade with him and to “watch the fireworks.” Ruby met Vanderslice at the Postal Annex Building in Dealey Plaza before JFK’s motorcade entered the plaza. The two men then watched the shooting. Ruby did not know that Vanderslice was an informant for the Intelligence Division of the IRS office in Dallas. When Vanderslice saw news reports in 1977 about a new JFK assassination investigation, he decided he should tell his IRS contact about the incident, which resulted in two reports being filed on the matter.
Your conspiracy falls apart in just 4 minutes

After shooting Oswald, Ruby was arrested and a Western Union receipt was found in his pocket. That receipt was stamped just four minutes before Ruby shot Oswald.
Agents ran to the Western Union office and found the signed transcript of the money transfer, verified the time and the clerk identified Ruby.
Four minutes

So in your world, the mafia plan was for Ruby to not be in the basement at the time Oswald was supposed to be transferred but show up after the scheduled time, bring his favorite dog and leave it in the car and then show up in the basement minutes before Oswald came down
 
Jack Ruby was a career mafia associate going back to Al Capone

His Dallas night club was a mafia club run by the famous boss of New Orleans , Marcelo

He had the right police connections too

Oswald was a huge liability to the CIA and mob
Joe Kennedy went to Sam Giancana to help his son get elected into the White House. Illinois was up for grabs. The deal was for Joe to let JFK know to layoff the mob and Giancana would deliver Illinois to his son. After JFK was elected he brought his brother Robert as the AG and though ask by his father and his brother, RFK went after them, Sam sent Joe several messages that he was breaking the deal and the AG needed to leave them alone. The story goes is Giancana spoke to Marcelo and Marcelo got a hold of Ruby who hired Oswald, when Oswald was caught Giancana and Marcelo were worried Oswald was a liability and could implicate the mob, they told Ruby to fix it, Ruby knew that if Oswald talked then Ruby would be dead by the hands of the mob, so Ruby made the choice and when he was caught, he never implicated the mob.

It is as good of a theory as any.
 
Joe Kennedy went to Sam Giancana to help his son get elected into the White House. Illinois was up for grabs. The deal was for Joe to let JFK know to layoff the mob and Giancana would deliver Illinois to his son. After JFK was elected he brought his brother Robert as the AG and though ask by his father and his brother, RFK went after them, Sam sent Joe several messages that he was breaking the deal and the AG needed to leave them alone. The story goes is Giancana spoke to Marcelo and Marcelo got a hold of Ruby who hired Oswald, when Oswald was caught Giancana and Marcelo were worried Oswald was a liability and could implicate the mob, they told Ruby to fix it, Ruby knew that if Oswald talked then Ruby would be dead by the hands of the mob, so Ruby made the choice and when he was caught, he never implicated the mob.

It is as good of a theory as any.
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Joe Kennedy went to Sam Giancana to help his son get elected into the White House. Illinois was up for grabs. The deal was for Joe to let JFK know to layoff the mob and Giancana would deliver Illinois to his son. After JFK was elected he brought his brother Robert as the AG and though ask by his father and his brother, RFK went after them, Sam sent Joe several messages that he was breaking the deal and the AG needed to leave them alone. The story goes is Giancana spoke to Marcelo and Marcelo got a hold of Ruby who hired Oswald, when Oswald was caught Giancana and Marcelo were worried Oswald was a liability and could implicate the mob, they told Ruby to fix it, Ruby knew that if Oswald talked then Ruby would be dead by the hands of the mob, so Ruby made the choice and when he was caught, he never implicated the mob.

It is as good of a theory as any.

Ruby hired Oswald ?? I did not know that ??

Ok , how did the CIA fit in. ??

I thought oswaid was alone
 
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Ruby hired Oswald ?? I did not know that ??

Ok , how did the CIA fit in. ??
That is the theory, otherwise why would Ruby care what Oswald said. This theory didn’t involve the CIA. There are theories that LBJ orchestrated the hit, so many theories out there.
 
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That is the theory, otherwise why would Ruby care what Oswald said. This theory didn’t involve the CIA. There are theories that LBJ orchestrated the hit, so many theories out there.

Could the CIA and mafia worked together??
 
The investigation known as the Warren Commission was nothing but an exercise in CYA. Oswald abandoned his post in the military, renounced his citizenship and defected to Russia. The Warren commission never examined why Oswald was welcomed back to the U.S. with his KGB bride in the coldest part of the Cold War and never faced arrest or incarceration. Instead the Commission preferred to deal with phantoms on the grassy knoll. The CIA had a better motive for killing their assassin stooge than the Mafia.
 
The investigation known as the Warren Commission was nothing but an exercise in CYA. Oswald abandoned his post in the military, renounced his citizenship and defected to Russia. The Warren commission never examined why Oswald was welcomed back to the U.S. with his KGB bride in the coldest part of the Cold War and never faced arrest or incarceration. Instead the Commission preferred to deal with phantoms on the grassy knoll. The CIA had a better motive for killing their assassin stooge than the Mafia.
Oswald read in the papers that the JFK motorcade would pass by the building he worked. So he went home, got his rifle, fired three shots……one of which blew JFKs brains out
 
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