Old Rocks
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Links on that, fool.
Stupidity knows no rank: "Climate change is a threat to our national security."
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Links on that, fool.
Harry Dresden
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heres one you piece of Carbon Shit.....
Extra - WSJ.com....
intimidation? real nice aint it fuck head.....heres a group of organizations .....
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Organizational skeptics
* Australian APEC Study Centre
* Competitive Enterprise Institute (US) [3]
* Doctors for Disaster Preparedness
* Exxon-Funded Skeptics
* Friends of Science (Canada)
* George C. Marshall Institute (US)
* Heartland Institute (US)
* Institute of Economic Affairs (UK)
* Institute of Public Affairs (Australia)
* International Climate Science Coalition (NZ)
* International Policy Network (UK)
* Lavoisier Group (Australia)
* Natural Resources Stewardship Project (NSRP) (Canada)
* New Zealand Climate Science Coalition
* Scientific Alliance (UK)
* The United Kingdom House of Lords Select Committee on Economic Affairs
* NZ Center for Policy Research (NZ) [4]
* New Zealand Climate Change Coalition (NZ) [5]
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Good post there Harry. But the guy with a single digit IQ named Old Rocks, AKA: Roxie, Rockhead...will tell you that those are all funded by oil companies and have been paid off. Like his hadn't.
Harry Dresden
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Good post there Harry. But the guy with a single digit IQ named Old Rocks, AKA: Roxie, Rockhead...will tell you that those are all funded by oil companies and have been paid off. Like his hadn't.
he asked for ONE group....i gave him 18.....the guy is so fucking stupid....he asked a question and all you have to do is goggle it and you will get hundreds of answers....anyone who makes a claim like Old Dried Up Balls did is a dumb ass in the first degree.....to ACTUALLY say there are NO descenters ANYWHERE....geezus.. as Spock would say...FASCINATING.........
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You question is silly and irrelevant.
IF sea levels rise, it will be independent of anything MAN is "doing" to Earth's Climate.
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3,000 Low Temp Records Set This July!
AccuWeather.com News & Blogs: Jesse Ferrell Blog
Threat Over. Stand down the military
Let's call of the attack on that Big Yellow Thing in the Sky
AccuWeather.com News & Blogs: Jesse Ferrell Blog
Threat Over. Stand down the military
Let's call of the attack on that Big Yellow Thing in the Sky
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What a pea brain posts...
Extra - WSJ.com....
Climate of Fear
Global-warming alarmists intimidate dissenting scientists into silence.
by RICHARD LINDZEN
RICHARD LINDZEN
According to Ross Gelbspan in a 1995 article in Harper's Magazine, Lindzen "... charges oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services; his 1991 trip to testify before a Senate committee was paid for by Western Fuels and a speech he wrote, entitled Global Warming: the Origin and Nature of Alleged Scientific Consensus, was underwritten by OPEC." However, according to Alex Beam in a 2006 article in the The Boston Globe, Lindzen said that although he had accepted $10,000 in expenses and expert witness fees from "fossil-fuel types" in the 1990s, he had not received any money from these since. Lindzen has elsewhere described the Gelbspan allegation as a "slander."
Lindzen has been a member of several think tanks including the Cato Institute and the George C. Marshall Institute that have accepted money from companies such as ExxonMobil and Daimler Chrysler.
What a pea brain believes...
THIS is who to trust on funded environmental studies...
AND
THESE are the experts on climate change...
If God created trees, shouldn't liberals be the ones calling CONSERVE-ative christians tree huggers???
Old Rocks
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Good post there Harry. But the guy with a single digit IQ named Old Rocks, AKA: Roxie, Rockhead...will tell you that those are all funded by oil companies and have been paid off. Like his hadn't.
he asked for ONE group....i gave him 18.....the guy is so fucking stupid....he asked a question and all you have to do is goggle it and you will get hundreds of answers....anyone who makes a claim like Old Dried Up Balls did is a dumb ass in the first degree.....to ACTUALLY say there are NO descenters ANYWHERE....geezus.. as Spock would say...FASCINATING.........
Do you have the faintest what a scientific society is? None of these are. And you even included Exxon Funded Skeptics as an organization.
You are truly one brain dead fool.Challenge remains, one scientific society that is disenting on global warming.
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See, sometimes it gets Cooler during Global Warming, er, I mean Climate Change so what we have here is clear incontrovertable evidence of the twin forces of GlobalWarmerCoolering and GlobalCooerWarmering
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The Earth continues to mock Librul arrogance, like when it snowed in Las Vegas during the Global Warming conference
3,000 Low Temp Records Set This July!
3,000 Low Temp Records Set This July!
Old Rocks
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The Australian APEC Study Centre at RMIT University’s College of Business, together with its component facility, the Melbourne APEC Finance Centre, promote Australia’s, Victoria’s and RMIT’s strategic, economic, social and educational objectives throughout the Asia-Pacific region. The Centre also manages training programs, conferences and symposia on issues related to the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC). For more information about the role and activities of the APEC Centre, click here.
This is a school of economics. Not science.
This is a school of economics. Not science.
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Good post there Harry. But the guy with a single digit IQ named Old Rocks, AKA: Roxie, Rockhead...will tell you that those are all funded by oil companies and have been paid off. Like his hadn't.
he asked for ONE group....i gave him 18.....the guy is so fucking stupid....he asked a question and all you have to do is goggle it and you will get hundreds of answers....anyone who makes a claim like Old Dried Up Balls did is a dumb ass in the first degree.....to ACTUALLY say there are NO descenters ANYWHERE....geezus.. as Spock would say...FASCINATING.........
Do you have the faintest what a scientific society is? None of these are. And you even included Exxon Funded Skeptics as an organization.
Challenge remains, one scientific society that is disenting on global warming.
You can tell Global Warning is total bullshit because now they're calling it "Climate Change"
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Good post there Harry. But the guy with a single digit IQ named Old Rocks, AKA: Roxie, Rockhead...will tell you that those are all funded by oil companies and have been paid off. Like his hadn't.
he asked for ONE group....i gave him 18.....the guy is so fucking stupid....he asked a question and all you have to do is goggle it and you will get hundreds of answers....anyone who makes a claim like Old Dried Up Balls did is a dumb ass in the first degree.....to ACTUALLY say there are NO descenters ANYWHERE....geezus.. as Spock would say...FASCINATING.........
Do you have the faintest what a scientific society is? None of these are. And you even included Exxon Funded Skeptics as an organization.
Challenge remains, one scientific society that is disenting on global warming.
learn to spell before you start calling people braindead.
Old Rocks
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This is hardly a scientific society. Just a right wing, Exxon supported source of lies.
Competitive Enterprise Institute And Global Warming - SourceWatch
CEI's Television Ads
"The Competitive Enterprise Institute has produced two 60-second television spots focusing on the alleged global warming crisis and the calls by some environmental groups and politicians for reduced energy use. The ads are airing in 14 U.S. cities from May 18 to May 28, 2006." The ads say that ice is actually thickening and that CO2 is a good thing. [5]
"These television ads are a deliberate effort to confuse and mislead the public about the global warming debate," said Curt Davis, director of the Center for Geospatial Intelligence at the University of Missouri-Columbia and author of the research in a May 19 news release. "They are selectively using only parts of my previous research to support their claims. They are not telling the entire story to the public." [6]
On May 26, 2006, FactCheck.org, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania issued an analysis of the ads, "Scientist to CEI: You Used My Research To 'Confuse and Mislead'." [7] FactCheck describes itself as "nonpartisan, nonprofit, "consumer advocate" for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics." [8]
[edit]Exxon's Cash Pipeline to CEI
Exxonsecrets.org lists Exxon's funding of CEI, based on data released by the company itself, as totalling $2,005,000 since 1998. [9] The specific year-by-year fugures are:
1998: $85,000 ExxonMobil Corporate Giving
2000: $230,000 ExxonMobil Foundation
2001: $280,000 ExxonMobil Foundation
2002: $205,000 ExxonMobil Foundation: This was identified as being for "50K congressional briefing program, 140K general operating support, 60K legal activities";
2002: $200,000 ExxonMobil Corporate Giving' This was identified as "140K general operating support, 60K for legal activities;"
2003: $25,000 ExxonMobil Corporate Giving for "Annual Dinner"
2003: $440,000 ExxonMobil Foundation for "General Operating Support";
2004: $90,000 ExxonMobil Foundation for "General Operating Support"
2004: $90,000 ExxonMobil Foundation for "Global Climate Change"
2004: $90000 ExxonMobil Foundation for "Global Climate Change Outreach"
2005: $90,000 ExxonMobil Foundation for "General Operating Support"
2005: $180,000 ExxonMobil Corporate Giving for "General Operating Support"
Competitive Enterprise Institute And Global Warming - SourceWatch
CEI's Television Ads
"The Competitive Enterprise Institute has produced two 60-second television spots focusing on the alleged global warming crisis and the calls by some environmental groups and politicians for reduced energy use. The ads are airing in 14 U.S. cities from May 18 to May 28, 2006." The ads say that ice is actually thickening and that CO2 is a good thing. [5]
"These television ads are a deliberate effort to confuse and mislead the public about the global warming debate," said Curt Davis, director of the Center for Geospatial Intelligence at the University of Missouri-Columbia and author of the research in a May 19 news release. "They are selectively using only parts of my previous research to support their claims. They are not telling the entire story to the public." [6]
On May 26, 2006, FactCheck.org, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania issued an analysis of the ads, "Scientist to CEI: You Used My Research To 'Confuse and Mislead'." [7] FactCheck describes itself as "nonpartisan, nonprofit, "consumer advocate" for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics." [8]
[edit]Exxon's Cash Pipeline to CEI
Exxonsecrets.org lists Exxon's funding of CEI, based on data released by the company itself, as totalling $2,005,000 since 1998. [9] The specific year-by-year fugures are:
1998: $85,000 ExxonMobil Corporate Giving
2000: $230,000 ExxonMobil Foundation
2001: $280,000 ExxonMobil Foundation
2002: $205,000 ExxonMobil Foundation: This was identified as being for "50K congressional briefing program, 140K general operating support, 60K legal activities";
2002: $200,000 ExxonMobil Corporate Giving' This was identified as "140K general operating support, 60K for legal activities;"
2003: $25,000 ExxonMobil Corporate Giving for "Annual Dinner"
2003: $440,000 ExxonMobil Foundation for "General Operating Support";
2004: $90,000 ExxonMobil Foundation for "General Operating Support"
2004: $90,000 ExxonMobil Foundation for "Global Climate Change"
2004: $90000 ExxonMobil Foundation for "Global Climate Change Outreach"
2005: $90,000 ExxonMobil Foundation for "General Operating Support"
2005: $180,000 ExxonMobil Corporate Giving for "General Operating Support"
Old Rocks
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Good God, more OISM dingbats. Really bottom of the barrel as far as charalatans and liars are concerned.
Doctors for Disaster Preparedness
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Doctors for Disaster Preparedness is a body associated with the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, a non-profit, privately-funded research institute. Its website states that DDP promotes homeland defense and prudent preparedness for disasters of all kinds, including war or terrorism. Its annual meeting brings together authorities on strategic and civil defense as well as scientists speaking on "real threats or manufactured scares". DDP is unconvinced of the role of CFCs in ozone depletion, the role of greenhouse gases in global warming, and in the utility of renewable energy sources.[1]
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Doctors for Disaster Preparedness
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Doctors for Disaster Preparedness is a body associated with the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, a non-profit, privately-funded research institute. Its website states that DDP promotes homeland defense and prudent preparedness for disasters of all kinds, including war or terrorism. Its annual meeting brings together authorities on strategic and civil defense as well as scientists speaking on "real threats or manufactured scares". DDP is unconvinced of the role of CFCs in ozone depletion, the role of greenhouse gases in global warming, and in the utility of renewable energy sources.[1]
Doctors for Disaster Preparedness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
WOW! I didn't see that one coming, did you Harry?
Did you notice that Roxie never does give the funding of his own sources.
Roxie your so predictable, and yours are unbias. Right, I believe that you silly ass fool.
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Old Rocks
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* Exxon-Funded Skeptics
Damn, you actually posted that as a scientific organization?
Damn, you actually posted that as a scientific organization?
Old Rocks
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Again, not a scientific society, a bunch of oppertunists that see a chance to make a buck without working for it by taking energy company money to tell lies.
The Friends of Science Society (FoS) is a Canadian non-profit group based in Calgary, Alberta, that is "made up of active and retired engineers, earth scientists and other professionals, as well as many concerned Canadians, who believe the science behind the Kyoto Protocol is questionable." [1]
In an August 12, 2006, article The Globe and Mail revealed that the group had received significant funding via anonymous, indirect donations from the oil industry, including a major grant from the Science Education Fund, a donor-directed, flow-through charitable fund at the Calgary Foundation. The donations were funnelled through a University of Calgary trust account research set up and controlled by U of C Professor Barry Cooper. [2] [3] The revelations were based largely on the prior investigations of Desmogblog.com, which had reported on the background of FoS scientific advisors and Cooper's role in FoS funding. [4] [5]
In the course of an internal review and audit begun in March of 2007, the University determined that some of the research funds accepted on behalf of the Friends of Science "had been used to support a partisan viewpoint on climate change" and had returned unspent grant money on September 10, 2007, according to a Calgary Foundation statement.[6] As a consequence, the University advised FoS "that it would no longer accept funds on the organization's behalf", according to an email from University legal counsel Elizabeth Osler sent on December 24, 2007. [7] On February 17, 2008, CanWest News Service reported that U of C officials had shut down Cooper's "'Research on Climate Change' trust account", and were about to advise Elections Canada of the University's ongoing review of the matter. [8]
A few days later, CanWest reported that the targeting of the FoS radio ad campaign to key Ontario ridings was directed by then FoS media contact Morten Paulsen (later a vice-president at Fleishman-Hillard), who also served as volunteer spokesperson for the Stephen Harper led Conservative Party of Canada during the election. [9]
A report on various allegations concerning Barry Cooper's research accounts was issued by the University auditor on April 14, 2008, with some censored passages released in July. [10] [11] The report examined allegations that research funds had been used as a conduit to fund Friends of Science projects, that funds had been used to support third-party election advertising, and that the funded projects did not constitute legitimate research or education. Although the report did not arrive at any definitive conclusions on the allegations, it did note that Barry Cooper (referred to as the "researcher" in the report) overstepped his signing authority in approving payments of $170,000 of payments to APCO Worldwide, $54,000 to Morten Paulsen Consulting, and $43,000 to Paulsen's current employer, PR and lobbying firm Fleishman-Hillard. In an accompanying press release, the University noted that it had "advised Elections Canada and Canada Revenue Agency of its concerns regarding the accounts Friends of Science and the ongoing auditorÂ’s review." [12] [13]
On September 23, 2008, CanWest reported that Elections Canada had completed a preliminary assessment into the 2006 Ontario radio ad campaign and would not press charges against FoS for failing to register as a third-party election advertiser.
Friends of Science - SourceWatch
The Friends of Science Society (FoS) is a Canadian non-profit group based in Calgary, Alberta, that is "made up of active and retired engineers, earth scientists and other professionals, as well as many concerned Canadians, who believe the science behind the Kyoto Protocol is questionable." [1]
In an August 12, 2006, article The Globe and Mail revealed that the group had received significant funding via anonymous, indirect donations from the oil industry, including a major grant from the Science Education Fund, a donor-directed, flow-through charitable fund at the Calgary Foundation. The donations were funnelled through a University of Calgary trust account research set up and controlled by U of C Professor Barry Cooper. [2] [3] The revelations were based largely on the prior investigations of Desmogblog.com, which had reported on the background of FoS scientific advisors and Cooper's role in FoS funding. [4] [5]
In the course of an internal review and audit begun in March of 2007, the University determined that some of the research funds accepted on behalf of the Friends of Science "had been used to support a partisan viewpoint on climate change" and had returned unspent grant money on September 10, 2007, according to a Calgary Foundation statement.[6] As a consequence, the University advised FoS "that it would no longer accept funds on the organization's behalf", according to an email from University legal counsel Elizabeth Osler sent on December 24, 2007. [7] On February 17, 2008, CanWest News Service reported that U of C officials had shut down Cooper's "'Research on Climate Change' trust account", and were about to advise Elections Canada of the University's ongoing review of the matter. [8]
A few days later, CanWest reported that the targeting of the FoS radio ad campaign to key Ontario ridings was directed by then FoS media contact Morten Paulsen (later a vice-president at Fleishman-Hillard), who also served as volunteer spokesperson for the Stephen Harper led Conservative Party of Canada during the election. [9]
A report on various allegations concerning Barry Cooper's research accounts was issued by the University auditor on April 14, 2008, with some censored passages released in July. [10] [11] The report examined allegations that research funds had been used as a conduit to fund Friends of Science projects, that funds had been used to support third-party election advertising, and that the funded projects did not constitute legitimate research or education. Although the report did not arrive at any definitive conclusions on the allegations, it did note that Barry Cooper (referred to as the "researcher" in the report) overstepped his signing authority in approving payments of $170,000 of payments to APCO Worldwide, $54,000 to Morten Paulsen Consulting, and $43,000 to Paulsen's current employer, PR and lobbying firm Fleishman-Hillard. In an accompanying press release, the University noted that it had "advised Elections Canada and Canada Revenue Agency of its concerns regarding the accounts Friends of Science and the ongoing auditorÂ’s review." [12] [13]
On September 23, 2008, CanWest reported that Elections Canada had completed a preliminary assessment into the 2006 Ontario radio ad campaign and would not press charges against FoS for failing to register as a third-party election advertiser.
Friends of Science - SourceWatch
CrusaderFrank
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OK, Global Warming is total bullshit but "Climate Change" is too vague and nebulous, what if we call it:
THE GREAT CLIMATIC GOOGLY MOOGLY?
THE GREAT CLIMATIC GOOGLY MOOGLY?
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Old Rocks
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Amazing, not a scientific society, either.
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The George C. Marshall Institute (GMI) is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization founded in 1984. The think tank's mission is to "encourage the use of sound science in making public policy about important issues for which science and technology are major considerations." The "program emphasizes issues in national security and the environment."[1]
According to the Center for Science in the Public Interest: "The Marshall Institute investigates facts concerning global climate change. The Institute also studies the implications of the Kyoto Protocol upon national security. The Institute is partially supported by the Exxon Education Foundation and American Standard Companies."[2]
In a 2009 essay, former Marshall Institute Executive Director, Matthew B. Crawford, wrote that after he commenced with the group in September 2001 "certain perversities became apparent as I settled into the job. It sometimes required me to reason backward, from desired conclusion to suitable premise. The organization had taken certain positions, and there were some facts it was more fond of than others. As its figurehead, I was making arguments I didn't fully buy myself. Further, my boss seemed intent on retraining me according to a certain cognitive style — that of the corporate world, from which he had recently come. This style demanded that I project an image of rationality but not indulge too much in actual reasoning."[
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George C. Marshall Institute
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The George C. Marshall Institute (GMI) is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization founded in 1984. The think tank's mission is to "encourage the use of sound science in making public policy about important issues for which science and technology are major considerations." The "program emphasizes issues in national security and the environment."[1]
According to the Center for Science in the Public Interest: "The Marshall Institute investigates facts concerning global climate change. The Institute also studies the implications of the Kyoto Protocol upon national security. The Institute is partially supported by the Exxon Education Foundation and American Standard Companies."[2]
In a 2009 essay, former Marshall Institute Executive Director, Matthew B. Crawford, wrote that after he commenced with the group in September 2001 "certain perversities became apparent as I settled into the job. It sometimes required me to reason backward, from desired conclusion to suitable premise. The organization had taken certain positions, and there were some facts it was more fond of than others. As its figurehead, I was making arguments I didn't fully buy myself. Further, my boss seemed intent on retraining me according to a certain cognitive style — that of the corporate world, from which he had recently come. This style demanded that I project an image of rationality but not indulge too much in actual reasoning."[
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