Stupid Bastard Announces Begining Of Shooting War With Iran

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Goodness, you vastly overestimate both your importance and mine.

Wrong. The only reason trump has any power is because of his cult, of which you are an active member. for example, if not for you cultists, the republicans would have impeached him in minutes.

Wow, one rarely sees such a combination of narcissism and irrational paranoia.

You definitely need to be on medications. Note the plural.

And the nightly daveman tantrum begins. You managed to hit the brick wall at 7 pm tonight, an early start for you.

I can always tell when you get your feelings hurt. You flap the shreds of your ego around and start projecting your propensity for tantrums.

Oh look, all whining, no argument... yep, it's a daveman post.

Of course, normal, rational people understand that there is a difference between mindless ass-licking -- like you do for trump -- and vocal criticism and resistance via exchange of ideas and voting. Again, I expected you to struggle with this simple concept. And you did not disappoint.

 

[Nostra]

Um, if not for the moronic ROE by Barry our sailors would have lit them up, Moron.

And you'd have dead sailors Moron. Easy to sacrifice somebody when that somebody isn't you or yours.
All Iran did was exactly what the US would have done if a navy from a foreign country had illegally entered its territorial waters.

Only problem with that is that Iran extends its claim to territorial waters way beyond what they actually are.

In this case they were three nautical miles from Iranian land. Territorial waters are 12 miles. I'm sure if a couple of navy vessels from Iran were three miles off the coast of Washington state the US Navy would have something to say about that. And rightly so. The incident lasted a whole 15 hours. Hardly worth starting a war over, or losing lives over. That is what the chickhawk losers like Daveboy want. Gee, why do so many people see neocon, right wing whackadoodles as war mongers. Gee, dunno...

In this case they were three nautical miles from Iranian land.

So, what you are saying is Barry Hussein was a shitty COC.

 

[Dr Grump]

Yes, but you say a lot of stupid shit.

And your posts are fill of enlightenment and wisdom...

 

[Dr Grump]

You're demanding the US alter our foreign policy to assuage your butthurt.

How's that working out for you?

What is your foreign policy? When you accidentally or illegally enter the waters of another nation you blow the shit out of them when they object? Tell me Einstein, what exactly would the US Navy have done in similar circumstances? Just observed another nation's navy in your territorial waters?

 

[Dr Grump]

Uh huh. Look at you, thinking you can demand how other people post.

You're destined to go through life bitter and disappointed. Even more than you are now.

I'm not demanding anything. Just showing how asinine you are....not hard to do...

 

[Dr Grump]

Goodness, you vastly overestimate both your importance and mine.

Wrong. The only reason trump has any power is because of his cult, of which you are an active member. for example, if not for you cultists, the republicans would have impeached him in minutes.

Wow, one rarely sees such a combination of narcissism and irrational paranoia.

You definitely need to be on medications. Note the plural.

And the nightly daveman tantrum begins. You managed to hit the brick wall at 7 pm tonight, an early start for you.

LOL...I actually laughed out loud. You hit it on the button. He certainly is easy to trigger.

 

[Dr Grump]

In this case they were three nautical miles from Iranian land.

So, what you are saying is Barry Hussein was a shitty COC.

No, I'm saying the US Navy's navigational training needs looking at.

 

[Redfish]

Good diplomacy is a better policy.
Strong ARM policy is always the worst policy.


If we want something from Iran. Treating them as an enemy, starving their people, cannot a bank loan. What do we expect from return? Zero to NOTHING. Fuck you.

If we want something from China to cooperate with us with CV investigation. Then treating them and finger pointing. You don’t expect any cooperation.


If I want something from you. Treating you as an enemy, starving your kids, close your bank account. What do I expect from you in return? Zero to Nothing. Fuck you go to hell.


If I come to you as a friend. Offering you a better future, food, $ and life for your kids. I expect a love and respect from you. I stand a better chance and high percentage I can get something in return. We can be friends work together and get rid of the bad policy.

TELL ME WHERE I’M WRONG?
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where are you wrong? in every word of your post. The only thing that muslim terrorists understand or respect is overwhelming force. they laugh at the diplomacy tried by obozo, they took his money and used it against the USA, screw them, and screw you

So what are we getting in return? NOTHING. Dumb Trump.

What have we accomplished in return? NOTHING. Dumb Trump.

What Iran has accomplished with the sanctions? They are building their nuclear program with no restrictions. GOOD job Trump.


Like I already posted. The young generations hate these mullahs hardliners. They don’t want to be associated or to be called terrorist supporters. It took generations for that to build up. Here comes Trump destroyed all of that in his first year.

There was an Iranian member here confirmed what I’m saying. Wonder what happened to him?

If the Iranian people decide to overthrow the fanatic mullahs, Trump will support them 100%. But he will not give a penny to the radical terrorist murderers who control that country today.

What did the sanctions accomplish? ruined their economy and allowed the people to see the flaws in their leaders, Same thing is happening in Venezuela. the people are fed up with socialism and oppression. those two countries could see revolutions due to the actions taken by the Trump administration.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You're demanding the US alter our foreign policy to assuage your butthurt.

How's that working out for you?

What is your foreign policy? When you accidentally or illegally enter the waters of another nation you blow the shit out of them when they object? Tell me Einstein, what exactly would the US Navy have done in similar circumstances? Just observed another nation's navy in your territorial waters?

What would the Navy do if a foreign warship was within our territorial waters? They would warn them that they aren't supposed to be there, and then escort them back to international waters. They wouldn't be fired on until they showed a complete failure to comply, or fire on us first.

But, chances are very good they would leave before hostilities started.

 

[Dr Grump]

What would the Navy do if a foreign warship was within our territorial waters? They would warn them that they aren't supposed to be there, and then escort them back to international waters. They wouldn't be fired on until they showed a complete failure to comply, or fire on us first.

But, chances are very good they would leave before hostilities started.

They did something similar. But it took them 15 hours. And let's not forget that his wasn't a gunboat from Fiji rocking up into their territorial waters. It was one of their sworn enemies. You think if a Chinese frigate accidentally roamed into your waters that would be your reaction? Remember what happened when that USAF plane got caught in Hainan Island. They stripped it down completely.

 

[Nostra]

In this case they were three nautical miles from Iranian land.

So, what you are saying is Barry Hussein was a shitty COC.

No, I'm saying the US Navy's navigational training needs looking at.

So, you are again saying Barry Hussein was a shitty CIC.

 

[ABikerSailor]

What would the Navy do if a foreign warship was within our territorial waters? They would warn them that they aren't supposed to be there, and then escort them back to international waters. They wouldn't be fired on until they showed a complete failure to comply, or fire on us first.

But, chances are very good they would leave before hostilities started.

They did something similar. But it took them 15 hours. And let's not forget that his wasn't a gunboat from Fiji rocking up into their territorial waters. It was one of their sworn enemies. You think if a Chinese frigate accidentally roamed into your waters that would be your reaction? Remember what happened when that USAF plane got caught in Hainan Island. They stripped it down completely.

If a military ship from ANY country came into our waters and got within 3 miles that would be the reaction. They would radio them that they are in territorial waters, and to leave. They would also get several warnings. Only when the warnings fail, or they fire first, would we fire on them. Sorry, but I spent 20 years in the Navy, and I've seen how things are handled.

 

[daveman]

Yes, but you say a lot of stupid shit.

And your posts are fill of enlightenment and wisdom...

Naaah, I'm here to have fun. There's no way in hell I'm going to change your mind. You bitterly cling to your horseshit too tightly.

 

[daveman]

You're demanding the US alter our foreign policy to assuage your butthurt.

How's that working out for you?

What is your foreign policy? When you accidentally or illegally enter the waters of another nation you blow the shit out of them when they object? Tell me Einstein, what exactly would the US Navy have done in similar circumstances? Just observed another nation's navy in your territorial waters?

What's it matter? You're going to hate it no matter what. Not like that matters at all.

 

[daveman]

Uh huh. Look at you, thinking you can demand how other people post.

You're destined to go through life bitter and disappointed. Even more than you are now.

I'm not demanding anything. Just showing how asinine you are....not hard to do...

Uh huh. I'm sure that fantasy amuses you.

 

[Dr Grump]

So, you are again saying Barry Hussein was a shitty CIC.

He's in charge of such a fundamental thing as navy navigational training? Who knew...

 

[Dr Grump]

If a military ship from ANY country came into our waters and got within 3 miles that would be the reaction. They would radio them that they are in territorial waters, and to leave. They would also get several warnings. Only when the warnings fail, or they fire first, would we fire on them. Sorry, but I spent 20 years in the Navy, and I've seen how things are handled.

I know you were in the navy. At the end of the day, do you think you should have gone to war with Iran over those sailors being held for 15 hours like these guys do. There are also other geopolitical things in play here. Iran is a very different regime from the US. Also the Arabian Gulf, Red Sea, Straits of Hormuz are a lot more volatile places than the coasts of the US. So what was the end game for those wishing for Washington (ie Obama at the time)? Bomb Tehran, which would have been a death sentence for those sailors? Wait until the soldiers were freed then bomb (just like Ronnie Raygun did with the Iran hostages in 1980 - oh, that's right he didn't). I mean what are the neocon whackadoodles advocating in terms of outcome for this incident (I know you're not one of them, just asking a rhetorical question).

 

[Dr Grump]

Naaah, I'm here to have fun. There's no way in hell I'm going to change your mind. You bitterly cling to your horseshit too tightly.

Course you're having fun. Is that why your posts are full of piss and vitriol...
Bitter? Ha!! There are many adjectives you could use to describe me. Bitter is definitely not one of them when it comes to this board. Funny? A lot of the time. I can't believe Trumpites are so dumb...under I remember who their king is. Followers are like their leaders I guess...

 

[Indeependent]

If a military ship from ANY country came into our waters and got within 3 miles that would be the reaction. They would radio them that they are in territorial waters, and to leave. They would also get several warnings. Only when the warnings fail, or they fire first, would we fire on them. Sorry, but I spent 20 years in the Navy, and I've seen how things are handled.

I know you were in the navy. At the end of the day, do you think you should have gone to war with Iran over those sailors being held for 15 hours like these guys do. There are also other geopolitical things in play here. Iran is a very different regime from the US. Also the Arabian Gulf, Red Sea, Straits of Hormuz are a lot more volatile places than the coasts of the US. So what was the end game for those wishing for Washington (ie Obama at the time)? Bomb Tehran, which would have been a death sentence for those soldiers? Wait until the soldiers were freed then bomb (just like Ronnie Raygun did with the Iran hostages in 1980 - oh, that's right he didn't). I mean what are the neocon whackadoodles advocating in terms of outcome for this incident (I know you're not one of them, just asking a rhetorical question).

What civilized people inhabit this area that it's so volatile ?

 

[Dr Grump]

What's it matter? You're going to hate it no matter what. Not like that matters at all.

You mistake inquiry with hate. You are the epitome of a Trumpite. Like your Dear Leader you hate being questioned and you have an unmistakable belief that your way is the right way.