daveman said —
“And of course, Iran would NEVER lie.”
Is that supposed to be ...
satire?
Of course the Iranian theocratic regime can lie. They lie all the time! So does our government, by the way.
The goal of all my comments is to put what they say and what both sides do into
context. Do you think the Iranian regime is “suicidal” ... as others have said? Or are they desperately trying to survive, to show the U.S. they are really not ”paper tigers” even though they lack nuclear weapons? ... even if they lack dozens of military bases surrounding the USA!
You can’t get over American diplomats and CIA men held by revolutionary students 40 years ago? Well, guess what? They haven’t gotten over the war we encouraged Saddam Hussein to wage against them, and the chemical weapons used against their soldiers, and the bombs that fell on their cities, a war that lasted almost a decade — followed by war sanctions. We are an existential threat to them, as we were to the regimes and peoples of Libya, Syria and Iraq.
To say nothing of the CIA instigated coup to install the Shah. Then there was the passenger airline the US navy shot down. Decades of sanctions and threats by the Empire.
It is doubtless that over the last 40 years, covert ops to harm Iran has been implemented by the Empire, that the American people will never know about.
Yet, the dumb American thinks Iran is the aggressor and the Empire is peaches and cream.
Rule of thumb:
If you call America an empire, you're retarded.
Rule Number One:
If you don’t know America is an empire, you might be a red neck...and a dumb fuck.
We don't empire very well. No tribute, no American governors ruling conquered territory.
Hell, the lands we conquer, we give back to the people who live there.
Perhaps you're using the word incorrectly in order to elicit an emotional response? Yes, that's far more likely -- although the emotional response you get is usually mockery and derision.
Maybe you should ask your ideological masters for another tactic. This one's failing spectacularly.
You aren’t informed. You don’t know real history. I know revisionist history.
Let’s see if this jogs any intelligence from your brain.
- Did we give back the lands taken from the native Americans?
- Did we give back the lands stolen from Mexico?
- What about Puerto Rico?
- What about all the military bases around the world on foreign lands, including Guantanamo taken from Spain when we attacked Cuba?
- We still have troops on the ground in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria.
- Troops still decades later occupying land in Germany, Japan, and SK.
- Any nation who refuses to be a vassal state of the empire is demonized and covertly attacked by the Empire’s secret police. See Iran, Venezuela, Russia, and China.
AN EMPIRE LIKE NO OTHER
The United States of America is an empire. But it is an empire like no other in history. It is an empire based on giving away money. The general taxpayers are taxed to give the money away, and those who profit from the expansion of the empire are paid by the government to produce the weapon systems which enable the United States government to project power around the world.
The foreign aid system is a system of bribery. It bribes leaders of countries around the world to keep their mouths shut regarding the extension of American power. This extension of power does not benefit the man in the street. It benefits various special interests, especially the military-industrial complex.
The American Empire - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com
The USG has troops stationed in 135 countries. It bombed four countries in 1999 alone. Yet few Americans are horrified at this. Any time and anywhere in the entire world there is conflict, Americans demand that the USG act, which means flex its military muscle. At any incident that can be propagandized as terrorism and before any evidence or even details are available, Pavlov's dogs flood talk radio with calls demanding that "we nuke the towel heads." Close your eyes and call up a vision of a first grade classroom and the reason will be clear to you, too.
The Rise of the American Empire - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com