Stupid Bastard Announces Begining Of Shooting War With Iran

[Denizen]

Outside investors ?? In that war torn hell hole that can barely last a year without fighting ?? I'm listening.

Actually, MANY Western countries, and Asian ones too, want to invest in Iran, but U.S. law and abusive overseas “secondary sanctions” prevent that. Even in Iraq, China was on the verge of signing contracts with the government to make huge desperately needed investments in rebuilding oil fields, when the U.S. used its influence to stop it. Syria is also still sanctioned by the U.S.A. So, when you say these countries are “war torn hells” — you are talking about what exactly? Who bombed Iraq to smithereens? Who encouraged and financed Islamic fanatics in their jihad and long civil war in Syria? Who is preventing foreign investors from coming in to rebuild? Remember how Trump said that, even in the Eastern Syrian desert, he would “Keep the oil” that the whole world knows belongs to Syria, and that the Syrian government needs? Any idea of how disruptive the sanctions are for traders and capitalist entrepreneurs in Syria, Iraq and Iran?

You’ll find ignorant duped Americans can’t accept the truth, that their government is the main culprit.

Never took you for a treasonous traitor. Is that what you are ?? Now of course we can have those that sometimes get in power to control our government, and their ideologies or ways of thinking might lead us astray, but if we strictly adhere to the Constitution, then they won't be successful in their thinking or actions. However, if someone tries to use the Constitution for corrupt political power, and the false overthrow of our government, then Houston we got a problem.

Those "that sometimes get in power to control our government, and their ideologies or ways of thinking might lead us astray" are called politicians.

 

[beagle9]

If history is our guide, whenever an empire has unrest at home, the elites love to start a war to silence dissent.

Except Trump is not the one starting this shit, dude.

US ships and aircraft are in the vicinity of Iran's territory.

How is it that the US is not starting this shit?

How is it you think it's us and not Iran starting the bullcrap ?? Are you the enemy of this nation comfortably sitting on this board spewing your hate towards America and American's daily ??

 

[beagle9]

Outside investors ?? In that war torn hell hole that can barely last a year without fighting ?? I'm listening.

Actually, MANY Western countries, and Asian ones too, want to invest in Iran, but U.S. law and abusive overseas “secondary sanctions” prevent that. Even in Iraq, China was on the verge of signing contracts with the government to make huge desperately needed investments in rebuilding oil fields, when the U.S. used its influence to stop it. Syria is also still sanctioned by the U.S.A. So, when you say these countries are “war torn hells” — you are talking about what exactly? Who bombed Iraq to smithereens? Who encouraged and financed Islamic fanatics in their jihad and long civil war in Syria? Who is preventing foreign investors from coming in to rebuild? Remember how Trump said that, even in the Eastern Syrian desert, he would “Keep the oil” that the whole world knows belongs to Syria, and that the Syrian government needs? Any idea of how disruptive the sanctions are for traders and capitalist entrepreneurs in Syria, Iraq and Iran?

You’ll find ignorant duped Americans can’t accept the truth, that their government is the main culprit.

Never took you for a treasonous traitor. Is that what you are ?? Now of course we can have those that sometimes get in power to control our government, and their ideologies or ways of thinking might lead us astray, but if we strictly adhere to the Constitution, then they won't be successful in their thinking or actions. However, if someone tries to use the Constitution for corrupt political power, and the false overthrow of our government, then Houston we got a problem.

Those "that sometimes get in power to control our government, and their ideologies or ways of thinking might lead us astray" are called politicians.

Yes, but they don't control the country unless we totally let them. We have in the Constitution the way to stop them, but it has to work like it's supposed to, and not be manipulated by devils who act in the worst interest of this country.

 

[Denizen]

If history is our guide, whenever an empire has unrest at home, the elites love to start a war to silence dissent.

Except Trump is not the one starting this shit, dude.

US ships and aircraft are in the vicinity of Iran's territory.

How is it that the US is not starting this shit?

How is it you think it's us and not Iran starting the bullcrap ?? Are you the enemy of this nation comfortably sitting on this board spewing your hate towards America and American's daily ??

Because its far from America and close to Iran. If I didn't want to provoke and aggravate a person I would not lurk near his house in plain view of him.

 

[JimBowie1958]

You’ll find ignorant duped Americans can’t accept the truth, that their government is the main culprit.

Never took you for a treasonous traitor. Is that what you are ?? Now of course we can have those that sometimes get in power to control our government, and their ideologies or ways of thinking might lead us astray, but if we strictly adhere to the Constitution, then they won't be successful in their thinking or actions. However, if someone tries to use the Constitution for corrupt political power, and the false overthrow of our government, then Houston we got a problem.

Most anarchist are traitors by nature.

Read what the Anarchist did to sabotage the White Russian Army of the Ukraine during the Russian Revolution.

The enabled the Bolsheviks to take over and when they had power, the Bolsheviks slaughtered all of them.

Anarchists are fools and morons looking for a tragedy much like their libertarians fellow travellers.

 

[Denizen]

You’ll find ignorant duped Americans can’t accept the truth, that their government is the main culprit.

Never took you for a treasonous traitor. Is that what you are ?? Now of course we can have those that sometimes get in power to control our government, and their ideologies or ways of thinking might lead us astray, but if we strictly adhere to the Constitution, then they won't be successful in their thinking or actions. However, if someone tries to use the Constitution for corrupt political power, and the false overthrow of our government, then Houston we got a problem.

Most anarchist are traitors by nature.

Read what the Anarchist did to sabotage the White Russian Army of the Ukraine during the Russian Revolution.

The enabled the Bolsheviks to take over and when they had power, the Bolsheviks slaughtered all of them.

Anarchists are fools and morons looking for a tragedy much like their libertarians fellow travellers.

Your head is stuck in the past and your anus is exposed to the present and the future.

 

[gipper]

Outside investors ?? In that war torn hell hole that can barely last a year without fighting ?? I'm listening.

Actually, MANY Western countries, and Asian ones too, want to invest in Iran, but U.S. law and abusive overseas “secondary sanctions” prevent that. Even in Iraq, China was on the verge of signing contracts with the government to make huge desperately needed investments in rebuilding oil fields, when the U.S. used its influence to stop it. Syria is also still sanctioned by the U.S.A. So, when you say these countries are “war torn hells” — you are talking about what exactly? Who bombed Iraq to smithereens? Who encouraged and financed Islamic fanatics in their jihad and long civil war in Syria? Who is preventing foreign investors from coming in to rebuild? Remember how Trump said that, even in the Eastern Syrian desert, he would “Keep the oil” that the whole world knows belongs to Syria, and that the Syrian government needs? Any idea of how disruptive the sanctions are for traders and capitalist entrepreneurs in Syria, Iraq and Iran?

You’ll find ignorant duped Americans can’t accept the truth, that their government is the main culprit.

Never took you for a treasonous traitor. Is that what you are ?? Now of course we can have those that sometimes get in power to control our government, and their ideologies or ways of thinking might lead us astray, but if we strictly adhere to the Constitution, then they won't be successful in their thinking or actions. However, if someone tries to use the Constitution for corrupt political power, and the false overthrow of our government, then Houston we got a problem.

Yes that’s what I am.

 

[gipper]

If history is our guide, whenever an empire has unrest at home, the elites love to start a war to silence dissent.

Except Trump is not the one starting this shit, dude.

US ships and aircraft are in the vicinity of Iran's territory.

How is it that the US is not starting this shit?

How is it you think it's us and not Iran starting the bullcrap ?? Are you the enemy of this nation comfortably sitting on this board spewing your hate towards America and American's daily ??

That’s hilarious. You are the typical dumb American. The US government has enormous military capabilities surrounding Iran and is constantly threatening them with annihilation, but you think Iran is the aggressor.

You must watch a lot of Fox News, because no one can be that dumb on their own.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Outside investors ?? In that war torn hell hole that can barely last a year without fighting ?? I'm listening.

Actually, MANY Western countries, and Asian ones too, want to invest in Iran, but U.S. law and abusive overseas “secondary sanctions” prevent that. Even in Iraq, China was on the verge of signing contracts with the government to make huge desperately needed investments in rebuilding oil fields, when the U.S. used its influence to stop it. Syria is also still sanctioned by the U.S.A. So, when you say these countries are “war torn hells” — you are talking about what exactly? Who bombed Iraq to smithereens? Who encouraged and financed Islamic fanatics in their jihad and long civil war in Syria? Who is preventing foreign investors from coming in to rebuild? Remember how Trump said that, even in the Eastern Syrian desert, he would “Keep the oil” that the whole world knows belongs to Syria, and that the Syrian government needs? Any idea of how disruptive the sanctions are for traders and capitalist entrepreneurs in Syria, Iraq and Iran?

You’ll find ignorant duped Americans can’t accept the truth, that their government is the main culprit.

Never took you for a treasonous traitor. Is that what you are ?? Now of course we can have those that sometimes get in power to control our government, and their ideologies or ways of thinking might lead us astray, but if we strictly adhere to the Constitution, then they won't be successful in their thinking or actions. However, if someone tries to use the Constitution for corrupt political power, and the false overthrow of our government, then Houston we got a problem.

“Houston — we’ve ALREADY got a problem!”

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

beagle9 says:
“It ain't all just commerce and trade we are talking about, but you knew that.”

OF COURSE I know that. I was just answering your point about trade and commerce ...

I did mention in passing how the U.S. and our Saudi allies often encourage Sunni Islamic fanatics and religious and ethnic wars...

But you knew that, right?

 

[gipper]

beagle9 says:
“It ain't all just commerce and trade we are talking about, but you knew that.”

OF COURSE I know that. I was just answering your point about trade and commerce ...

I did mention in passing how the U.S. and our Saudi allies often encourage Sunni Islamic fanatics and religious and ethnic wars...

But you knew that, right?

No. That’s news to him and stating such a thing, makes you a traitor in the Land of the Free.

 

[dannyboys]

I have said many times before — Trump may not “want war” but his policies are making war more likely. He can start one, but his posturing as “Mr. Tough Guy” will make it very hard to stop one once any “incident” starts escalating.

There are powerful forces that want war. I’m not talking about the idiots here on USM. The Israelis have long wanted the U.S. to attack Iran. Crucially, American Oil interests that once stood to lose a fortune if the Persian Gulf was shut down now would mostly also welcome the resulting rise in the price of oil. Even Russia would benefit. Here I disagree with charwin95, who I think earlier said that Russia would stand by Iran no matter what. I otherwise sympathize with his concerns.

The provocative U.S. military presence in this part of the world no longer makes any sense, if it ever did. The intelligent policy is to strategically draw down our forces, withdraw from Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan. Limit our naval forces in the Gulf to a bare minimum. American working people have NO SIDE in any conflict between Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shia Iran. Israel can defend itself. Our wars and interventions have left only wreckage and hatred, refugees and extremism behind, which we try to “clean up” with more interventions and by encouraging more civil war. The real U.S. policy is the same as the Israeli policy — Balkanize the whole region. The U.S., however, also wants ultimately to gain full control of all the oil in the Middle East so as to increase its leverage over China and ALL other countries now competing successfully with our de-industrialized and indebted economy. We cannot and should not try to maintain our world empire indefinitely through military force. This is the present real U.S. bipartisan policy, though it has been frustrated by Iranian resistance, and by Sunni terrorist “blowback.”

Posted by a twelve year old who still sees things through rose colored glasses.
If the US reduces it's military presence in the Gulf how many more oil tankers would be boarded by Somali pirates and Iranian military dressed up like Somali pirates and held ransom?
That part of the world has been a shitstain on the world for thousands of years.
Iran has been activally attempting "Balkaize' the entire region for thousands of years.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

His insane antics used to be funny. He’s let the vermin take over for the warmongers.View attachment 326570

Seriously, you have a problem with that?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Actually, the President's move to warn the Islamonazis in Teheran will actually help to keep the peace. Iran isn't going to be as likely to start a war with America if they know what the consequences are.

Of course. Wise people understand peace thru strength

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

I have said many times before — Trump may not “want war” but his policies are making war more likely. He can start one, but his posturing as “Mr. Tough Guy” will make it very hard to stop one once any “incident” starts escalating.

There are powerful forces that want war. I’m not talking about the idiots here on USM. The Israelis have long wanted the U.S. to attack Iran. Crucially, American Oil interests that once stood to lose a fortune if the Persian Gulf was shut down now would mostly also welcome the resulting rise in the price of oil. Even Russia would benefit. Here I disagree with charwin95, who I think earlier said that Russia would stand by Iran no matter what. I otherwise sympathize with his concerns.

The provocative U.S. military presence in this part of the world no longer makes any sense, if it ever did. The intelligent policy is to strategically draw down our forces, withdraw from Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan. Limit our naval forces in the Gulf to a bare minimum. American working people have NO SIDE in any conflict between Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shia Iran. Israel can defend itself. Our wars and interventions have left only wreckage and hatred, refugees and extremism behind, which we try to “clean up” with more interventions and by encouraging more civil war. The real U.S. policy is the same as the Israeli policy — Balkanize the whole region. The U.S., however, also wants ultimately to gain full control of all the oil in the Middle East so as to increase its leverage over China and ALL other countries now competing successfully with our de-industrialized and indebted economy. We cannot and should not try to maintain our world empire indefinitely through military force. This is the present real U.S. bipartisan policy, though it has been frustrated by Iranian resistance, and by Sunni terrorist “blowback.”

Posted by a twelve year old who still sees things through rose colored glasses.
If the US reduces it's military presence in the Gulf how many more oil tankers would be boarded by Somali pirates and Iranian military dressed up like Somali pirates and held ransom?
That part of the world has been a shitstain on the world for thousands of years.
Iran has been activally attempting "Balkaize' the entire region for thousands of years.

I’m afraid you are the one speaking like the 12-year old here.

If ALL nations are allowed to sell their oil, and ALL nations are allowed to buy on an open market freed of U.S.-imposed sanctions, ALL will have an incentive to work together to stop piracy. This is sometimes known as “free market capitalism.” The U.S. has done everything in its power (including destroying nations and encouraging civil war) to monopolize control of Middle East oil, and this is the ROOT of the problem.

 

[22lcidw]

If history is our guide, whenever an empire has unrest at home, the elites love to start a war to silence dissent.

Except Trump is not the one starting this shit, dude.

US ships and aircraft are in the vicinity of Iran's territory.

How is it that the US is not starting this shit?

How is it you think it's us and not Iran starting the bullcrap ?? Are you the enemy of this nation comfortably sitting on this board spewing your hate towards America and American's daily ??

Because its far from America and close to Iran. If I didn't want to provoke and aggravate a person I would not lurk near his house in plain view of him.

The guys house is abutting tens of trillions of dollars if not hundreds of trillions of high quality crude oil.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Which “guy” are you talking about ... Iran?

 

[Redfish]

His insane antics used to be funny. He’s let the vermin take over for the warmongers.View attachment 326570

so we should just wait until they attack a ship and try to sink it like they did to the Cole? WTF do you think the chinese or russians would do if one of their ships was attacked?

Iran didn’t do the Cole attack. That was AlQaeda. It was in all the papers. Do keep informed.

so what? same principles apply. take them out before they kill you. Get too close to a US Nave ship and you will pay the ultimate price. WTF do you think the Chinese or Russians would do if it happened to one of their ships? Obama the pussy is no longer president.

Obama wasn't president when the Cole was attacked. Clinton was nearing the end of his term, and we were 1 month away from electing Jr. as president.

I never said obama was president at that time. I said "obama the pussy is no longer president" and that is 100% true. It is also true that Clinton and Bush are no longer president. Our enemies should be advised that the current president will not stand still if any US asset or person is attacked.

 

[Redfish]

If history is our guide, whenever an empire has unrest at home, the elites love to start a war to silence dissent.

Except Trump is not the one starting this shit, dude.

US ships and aircraft are in the vicinity of Iran's territory.

How is it that the US is not starting this shit?

How is it you think it's us and not Iran starting the bullcrap ?? Are you the enemy of this nation comfortably sitting on this board spewing your hate towards America and American's daily ??

That’s hilarious. You are the typical dumb American. The US government has enormous military capabilities surrounding Iran and is constantly threatening them with annihilation, but you think Iran is the aggressor.

You must watch a lot of Fox News, because no one can be that dumb on their own.

Iran has been funding and supporting islamic terrorists for years, so yes, they are the aggressor.

 

[gipper]

If history is our guide, whenever an empire has unrest at home, the elites love to start a war to silence dissent.

Except Trump is not the one starting this shit, dude.

US ships and aircraft are in the vicinity of Iran's territory.

How is it that the US is not starting this shit?

How is it you think it's us and not Iran starting the bullcrap ?? Are you the enemy of this nation comfortably sitting on this board spewing your hate towards America and American's daily ??

That’s hilarious. You are the typical dumb American. The US government has enormous military capabilities surrounding Iran and is constantly threatening them with annihilation, but you think Iran is the aggressor.

You must watch a lot of Fox News, because no one can be that dumb on their own.

Iran has been funding and supporting islamic terrorists for years, so yes, they are the aggressor.

Yes, that’s the party line, but they never provide proof.