States must start deporting illegals themselves.

[Unkotare]

Have the illegal sweatshops full of Chinese illegal immigrants in NYC, as shown on Law and Order SVU been closed down yet?
Have the snakeheads been arrested?

What about all the illegal brothels full of Chinese illegal immigrant sex slaves run by said snakeheads, all shown on Law and Order SVU...have they been closed down yet and the operators arrested?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNsrK6P9QvI]Picard's Epic Double Facepalm - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Unkotare]

If you all would have witnessed what I saw today, it would maybe surprise you or maybe not. We stopped behind a school bus making a stop, and it was full from one end to the other with Mexican immigrant children. It appeared as if they were all going to get off at this one stop and empty the bus out right there. Their moms came out to greet them, and some had up to three children following them back to their homes or their places of residence in which we observed while sitting there in the traffic waiting. Some moms also were pregnant yet again it appeared.

So, you could tell just by looking that they were "Mexican immigrant children"? And having three children was some shocking outrage to you?

Well yes I could tell that they were Mexican Immigrant children...

You could tell at a glance that they weren't US citizens or immigrant children from any other country in Latin America? Are you trying to sound like an ignorant fool?

 

[Unkotare]

3 children with a bun in the oven in these economic uncertain times, and at income levels that barely support the family ?.....

...is hardly The Duggers, and certainly none of your fucking business. There is nothing shocking about a family with 3 or 4 children. Don't try to impose your preconceived notions on the rest of the universe, dope.


And having a child is not "spitting out" anything, you offensive POS.

 

[katsteve2012]

Did you thank that there stuff up all b-by uwerself?

 

[bianco]

Picard's Epic Double Facepalm - YouTube

The Law and Order SVU show didn't show an exact case, but...


http://www.monitor.net/monitor/9711a/nysweat.html

The worst results were in New York's Chinatown section, where almost nine out of every ten shops searched were found to be violating wage and overtime laws. The Chinese Staff and Workers Association (CSWA), a New York-based watchdog group, contends that shop owners regularly withhold wages and overtime for the workers there because they know that the Chinese-speaking immigrant workforce is largely unable or unwilling to complain to officials.

Chinatown shop owners pay their garment assembly workers only some three dollars an hour, more than two dollars an hour below the legal minimum, says CSWA Executive Director Wing Lam. "Chinatown is 90 percent unionized, but 80 percent of those workers (in both union and non-union shops) make below minimum wage," Lam says.

The main worry among immigrant groups is that if they complain to the U.S. government their complaints could prompt a raid or federal monitoring. They also fear that labor officials could put the stores out of business entirely under "employer sanction" laws that forbid the hiring of illegal immigrants. This could also expose workers to deportation by immigration officials.

These combined threats have served to maintain a docile workforce of undocumented immigrants, says Lam.

 

[Unkotare]

Picard's Epic Double Facepalm - YouTube

The Law and Order SVU show didn't show an exact case, but...

Oh no, all American TV shows are documentaries.

 

[katsteve2012]

HAHAHA. No, i don't note that. You're just making stuff up now cuz that's all you can do. The tenth amendment is death for the federal dictatorship and you know it.

Amendment XIV

(Ratified July 9, 1868)

Section 1

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Section 3

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave. But all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5

The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.


Amendment XVI

(Ratified February 3, 1913)

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Amendment XVII

(Ratified April 8, 1913)

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.

These amendments in combination with the powers previously given to the United States effectively render the states as empty shells having no power whatsoever over the federal government.

That's BS. Those amendments in no way invalidate 10.

Yes they do,you dope. If you could read or have taken an American Goverment class, you would know that Section 1 of the 14th amendment spells it out very clearly. And the truth is that the Supreme Court has used that very amendment to uphold the rights of illegal aliens. Here are some examples:

Read them or get someone to read them to you and stop wasting adults time with your stupid nonsense.



Often described as a "living document," the Constitution has repeatedly been interpreted by the U.S. Supreme Court, federal appeals courts and Congress in order to address the ever-changing needs and demands of the people. While many argue that "We the People of the United States," refers only to legal citizens, the Supreme Court has consistently disagreed.

Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886)
In Yick Wo v. Hopkins, a case involving the rights of Chinese immigrants, the Court ruled that the 14th Amendment's statement, "Nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws," applied to all persons "without regard to any differences of race, of color, or of nationality," and to "an alien, who has entered the country, and has become subject in all respects to its jurisdiction, and a part of its population, although alleged to be illegally here." (Kaoru Yamataya v. Fisher, 189 U.S. 86 (


Plyler v. Doe (1982)
In Plyler v. Doe, the Supreme Court struck down a Texas law prohibiting enrollment of illegal aliens in public school. In its decision, the Court held, "The illegal aliens who are plaintiffs in these cases challenging the statute may claim the benefit of the Equal Protection Clause, which provides that no State shall 'deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.' Whatever his status under the immigration laws, an alien is a 'person' in any ordinary sense of that term… The undocumented status of these children vel non does not establish a sufficient rational basis for denying them benefits that the State affords other residents."


"The last two clauses of the first section of the amendment disable a State from depriving not merely a citizen of the United States, but any person, whoever he may be, of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, or from denying to him the equal protection of the laws of the State. This abolishes all class legislation in the States and does away with the injustice of subjecting one caste of persons to a code not applicable to another. . . . It [the 14th Amendment] will, if adopted by the States, forever disable every one of them from passing laws trenching upon those fundamental rights and privileges which pertain to citizens of the United States, and to all persons who may happen to be within their jurisdiction."


While illegal aliens do not enjoy all of the rights granted to citizens by the Constitution, specifically the rights to vote or possess firearms, these rights can also be denied to U.S. citizens convicted of felonies. In final analysis, the courts have ruled that, while they are within the borders of the United States, illegal aliens are granted the same fundamental, undeniable constitutional rights granted to all Americans.

 

[katsteve2012]

The first thing that needs to be done is for the states to defy the feds and nullify the law that says illegals must get free treatment at hospital ERs, and then nullify the SC ruling that says schools must give free k-12 to illegals.

Even a moron like you should know that's not going to happen.

Obviously he does not. And furthermore, he knows nothing about this subject or any other subject whatsoever.

They tried that already in California in 1994 when Gray Davis was governor by presenting Prop 187. And as I am sure you know, it was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

HAHAHA. No, i don't note that. You're just making stuff up now cuz that's all you can do. The tenth amendment is death for the federal dictatorship and you know it.

Amendment XIV

(Ratified July 9, 1868)

Section 1

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Section 3

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave. But all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5

The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.


Amendment XVI

(Ratified February 3, 1913)

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Amendment XVII

(Ratified April 8, 1913)

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.

These amendments in combination with the powers previously given to the United States effectively render the states as empty shells having no power whatsoever over the federal government.

That's BS. Those amendments in no way invalidate 10.

No one ever said they did, or that the 10th Amendment was ‘invalidated.’

You’re just ignorant of 10th Amendment jurisprudence, which in no way authorizes the states to ‘nullify’ Federal law or defy Federal courts.

It was the original intent of the Framers that the Federal Constitution and Federal laws remain supreme, where the states are wholly subject to the Constitution, its case law, and the rulings of the Federal courts. See: Cooper v. Aaron (1958), US Term Limits v. Thornton (1995).

 

[katsteve2012]

your right?.....we are still waiting over in YOUR thread STATING that Obama sets the postage prices for you to back that up....the board notes that you make a lot of statements that you just cant seem to back up.....

SS really operates out of a hate-filled syndrome fueled by nonsense information.

Nonsense info?....shit this jerk makes statements like they are facts and when asked to back them up he does a Tango unlike any seen anywhere to distance himself as far as possible from the question,then tries to change the subject by TRYING to call you out on something....dishonesty at its finest....

Well, look at this way. Every village has an idiot. He is just from the shallow end of the idiot pool.

 

[LilOlLady]

Sheriff Joe is doing what he can;

Arrests the employers hiring illegals!

Boot the illegals out! give the jobs to Americans!


Legal Workers Line Up for Restaurant Jobs After Sheriff Joe Raids - YouTube

give the jobs BACK to Americans.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

(


Plyler v. Doe (1982)
In Plyler v. Doe, the Supreme Court struck down a Texas law prohibiting enrollment of illegal aliens in public school. In its decision, the Court held, "The illegal aliens who are plaintiffs in these cases challenging the statute may claim the benefit of the Equal Protection Clause, which provides that no State shall 'deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.' Whatever his status under the immigration laws, an alien is a 'person' in any ordinary sense of that term… The undocumented status of these children vel non does not establish a sufficient rational basis for denying them benefits that the State affords other residents."

So how do you justify affirmative action? If that isn't unequal protection of the laws, what is?

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Often described as a "living document," the Constitution has repeatedly been interpreted by the U.S. Supreme Court, federal appeals courts and Congress in order to address the ever-changing needs and demands of the people. While many argue that "We the People of the United States," refers only to legal citizens, the Supreme Court has consistently disagreed.

HAHAHA. Living document??? That means you let the supreme court alter the constitution at will without going thru the amending process!!!!

And of course the phrase "we the people of the united states" refers to citizens. It's absurd to say it includes illegal invaders. Who cares what the supreme court says.? The constitution gives them no authority to interpret the constitution and rewrite and repeal laws!!!!.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

[

It was the original intent of the Framers that the Federal Constitution and Federal laws remain supreme, where the states are wholly subject to the Constitution, its case law, and the rulings of the Federal courts. See: Cooper v. Aaron (1958), US Term Limits v. Thornton (1995).

HAHAHA. All you paid govt shills ever have in way of justification for federal supremacy is to say the feds say so!!! HAHAHA

The framers believed in states rights all the way and a weak federal govt.

 

[katsteve2012]

(


Plyler v. Doe (1982)
In Plyler v. Doe, the Supreme Court struck down a Texas law prohibiting enrollment of illegal aliens in public school. In its decision, the Court held, "The illegal aliens who are plaintiffs in these cases challenging the statute may claim the benefit of the Equal Protection Clause, which provides that no State shall 'deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.' Whatever his status under the immigration laws, an alien is a 'person' in any ordinary sense of that term… The undocumented status of these children vel non does not establish a sufficient rational basis for denying them benefits that the State affords other residents."

So how do you justify affirmative action? If that isn't unequal protection of the laws, what is?[/QUOTE




Stop deflecting, Shootspeeders. This is your thread and the topic is not affirmative action.

The truth is that you insisted that states rights in the matter of immigration are not invalidated or overridden by any other constitutional amendment, when they in fact are.

What is glaringly obvious in this thread is that you cannot read and comprehend the written word.

 

[beagle9]

3 children with a bun in the oven in these economic uncertain times, and at income levels that barely support the family ?.....

...is hardly The Duggers, and certainly none of your fucking business. There is nothing shocking about a family with 3 or 4 children. Don't try to impose your preconceived notions on the rest of the universe, dope.


And having a child is not "spitting out" anything, you offensive POS.

Look here if you can't talk to someone like you got some sense, then try not talking to them at all. No one ask for your insults, nor do I give such insults in a conversation with anyone here unless provoked big time by them. Now if you want someone to respect you, then try giving them the respect that they give you on this forum. I just report what I saw, and if you are suggesting that there hasn't been a problem in all of this, then who are you trying to fool ? The whole nation is talking about these problems, or did you just wake up today and join the conversation ? I have no problem with anyone having as many children as they want, as long as the government isn't taking most of my money to pay for them, nor do I have a problem with these immigrants being here and working, as long as the government isn't subsidizing them for the rich by taking again most of my money and other American workers hard earned money in order to do so. Got it ?

 

[JWBooth]

It will stop when American people stand up and start physically throwing illegals out by the thousands. Right now the illegals are allowed to do all the violent acts they wish. Law enforcement has been ordered not to interfere. When the people say enough is enough and start doing something about it, then you might see some action.

You make up some really weird shit.

But, hey, everyone needs a hobby.

I pay attention. You don't. You only know what the democrats choose to tell you.

Border Patrol told to stand down in Arizona - Washington Times

Whistle Blowers Say Obama Releasing Violent Illegal Aliens | FrontPage Magazine

Load 'em up on a bus and ship 'em to NYC

 

[beagle9]

Picard's Epic Double Facepalm - YouTube

The Law and Order SVU show didn't show an exact case, but...

Oh no, all American TV shows are documentaries.

Where do you think they draw from, create from and get their scripts from ? Out of thin air ?

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Plyler v. Doe (1982)
In Plyler v. Doe, the Supreme Court struck down a Texas law prohibiting enrollment of illegal aliens in public school. In its decision, the Court held, "The illegal aliens who are plaintiffs in these cases challenging the statute may claim the benefit of the Equal Protection Clause, which provides that no State shall 'deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.' Whatever his status under the immigration laws, an alien is a 'person' in any ordinary sense of that term… The undocumented status of these children vel non does not establish a sufficient rational basis for denying them benefits that the State affords other residents."

So how do you justify affirmative action? If that isn't unequal protection of the laws, what is?

Stop deflecting, Shootspeeders. This is your thread and the topic is not affirmative action.

.

Scroo you bitch. You brought up the 14th amendment and it's "equal protection" clause. I'm just pointing out the 14A was rendered void when the SCOTUS said affirmative action does NOT violate it!!! You don't want to talk about that because you know i'm right.

 

[katsteve2012]

Often described as a "living document," the Constitution has repeatedly been interpreted by the U.S. Supreme Court, federal appeals courts and Congress in order to address the ever-changing needs and demands of the people. While many argue that "We the People of the United States," refers only to legal citizens, the Supreme Court has consistently disagreed.

HAHAHA. Living document??? That means you let the supreme court alter the constitution at will without going thru the amending process!!!!

And of course the phrase "we the people of the united states" refers to citizens. It's absurd to say it includes illegal invaders. Who cares what the supreme court says.? The constitution gives them no authority to interpret the constitution and rewrite and repeal laws!!!!.

You were too stupid to read and comprehend the facts as they are . You have been given ample proof that the Supreme Court as the highest court in this country has the power to use certain amendments in the constitution to rule in favor of or reject legislation or cases pertaining to the rights of illegal aliens.

I did not write the law, but I do know how to read it and understand it.

It is incomprehensible that someone can be as dense as you are and be able to walk and breathe at the same time.