States must start deporting illegals themselves.

[ShootSpeeders]

The constitution gives the states not the feds such authority. The 10th amendment says a power not given to the feds nor denied the states belongs to the states or the people. The constitution never mentions who has the power to deport so the states have it.

According to the constitution all the feds can do re immigration is "To establish a uniform rule of Naturalization". Everything else is a state matter and states need to say that.

 

[Moonglow]

Did you thank that there stuff up all b-by uwerself?

 

[JakeStarkey]

SS is fun.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Did you thank that there stuff up all b-by uwerself?

HAHAHA. Another non-argument from the board laughingstock. HAHA

Defeating you is so easy.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

SS is fun.

HAHAHA. Another loonybird who won't address the issue. Thanks for admitting i'm right.

 

[RKMBrown]

The constitution gives the states not the feds such authority. The 10th amendment says a power not given to the feds nor denied the states belongs to the states or the people. The constitution never mentions who has the power to deport so the states have it.

According to the constitution all the feds can do re immigration is "To establish a uniform rule of Naturalization". Everything else is a state matter and states need to say that.

Sorry SS. The bill of rights is not the enumeration of powers of the government. It is merely a set of restrictions. See Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text
The Congress shall have Power... To provide for the common Defence; To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization; To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; and To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

Thus, they own defending our border. It's pretty clear. Any they own the laws for becoming a citizen, which is immigration, which is naturalization.

 

[bianco]

Sheriff Joe is doing what he can;

Arrests the employers hiring illegals!

Boot the illegals out! give the jobs to Americans!


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y34U07CxVm0]Legal Workers Line Up for Restaurant Jobs After Sheriff Joe Raids - YouTube[/ame]

 

[beagle9]

The constitution gives the states not the feds such authority. The 10th amendment says a power not given to the feds nor denied the states belongs to the states or the people. The constitution never mentions who has the power to deport so the states have it.

According to the constitution all the feds can do re immigration is "To establish a uniform rule of Naturalization". Everything else is a state matter and states need to say that.

Sorry SS. The bill of rights is not the enumeration of powers of the government. It is merely a set of restrictions. See Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text
The Congress shall have Power... To provide for the common Defence; To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization; To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; and To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

Thus, they own defending our border. It's pretty clear. Any they own the laws for becoming a citizen, which is immigration, which is naturalization.

So why haven't they been doing their job on repelling the Mexican Invasion ? And when they fail at that job, then whose job is it ? What if the corruption is so great within them now, that they can't or won't do their job, then whose job is it ?

 

[ShootSpeeders]

[

Sorry SS. The bill of rights is not the enumeration of powers of the government. It is merely a set of restrictions. See Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text
The Congress shall have Power... To provide for the common Defence; To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization; To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; and To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

Thus, they own defending our border. It's pretty clear. Any they own the laws for becoming a citizen, which is immigration, which is naturalization.

Another idiot liberal who says the feds can do anything they want and that's all there is to it. So explain the tenth amendment.

 

[Hoffstra]

Immigration is a Federal issue as it deals with international issues.

International issues, are under the jurisdiction of the Federal govt.

so...no!!

 

[Harry Dresden]

SS is fun.

HAHAHA. Another loonybird who won't address the issue. Thanks for admitting i'm right.

your right?.....we are still waiting over in YOUR thread STATING that Obama sets the postage prices for you to back that up....the board notes that you make a lot of statements that you just cant seem to back up.....

 

[RKMBrown]

[

Sorry SS. The bill of rights is not the enumeration of powers of the government. It is merely a set of restrictions. See Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text
The Congress shall have Power... To provide for the common Defence; To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization; To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; and To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

Thus, they own defending our border. It's pretty clear. And they own the laws for becoming a citizen, which is immigration, which is naturalization.

Another idiot liberal who says the feds can do anything they want and that's all there is to it. So explain the tenth amendment.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
I'm a constitutional conservative - libertarian, liberal only in the classical sense as with the founders of this nation. Calling me a (modern) liberal makes you sound like the idiot, not me.

The stuff I cited above are a partial list of the powers delegated to the United States by the Constitution.

Note the 10th amendment was pretty much made moot by the subsequent amendments to the constitution.

 

[RKMBrown]

The constitution gives the states not the feds such authority. The 10th amendment says a power not given to the feds nor denied the states belongs to the states or the people. The constitution never mentions who has the power to deport so the states have it.

According to the constitution all the feds can do re immigration is "To establish a uniform rule of Naturalization". Everything else is a state matter and states need to say that.

Sorry SS. The bill of rights is not the enumeration of powers of the government. It is merely a set of restrictions. See Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text
The Congress shall have Power... To provide for the common Defence; To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization; To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; and To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

Thus, they own defending our border. It's pretty clear. Any they own the laws for becoming a citizen, which is immigration, which is naturalization.

So why haven't they been doing their job on repelling the Mexican Invasion ? And when they fail at that job, then whose job is it ? What if the corruption is so great within them now, that they can't or won't do their job, then whose job is it ?

When have you ever seen our government do anything right? They only thing it is good at is taxing us, redistributing our wealth to their friends, buying weapons for our enemies, etc.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Immigration is a Federal issue as it deals with international issues.

International issues, are under the jurisdiction of the Federal govt.

so...no!!

Hey stupid. Where does the constitution say any of that?

 

[ShootSpeeders]

[

Note the 10th amendment was pretty much made moot by the subsequent amendments to the constitution.

HAHAHA. No, i don't note that. You're just making stuff up now cuz that's all you can do. The tenth amendment is death for the federal dictatorship and you know it.

 

[RKMBrown]

[

Note the 10th amendment was pretty much made moot by the subsequent amendments to the constitution.

HAHAHA. No, i don't note that. You're just making stuff up now cuz that's all you can do. The tenth amendment is death for the federal dictatorship and you know it.

Amendment XIV

(Ratified July 9, 1868)

Section 1

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Section 3

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave. But all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5

The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.


Amendment XVI

(Ratified February 3, 1913)

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Amendment XVII

(Ratified April 8, 1913)

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.

These amendments in combination with the powers previously given to the United States effectively render the states as empty shells having no power whatsoever over the federal government.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

[

Note the 10th amendment was pretty much made moot by the subsequent amendments to the constitution.

HAHAHA. No, i don't note that. You're just making stuff up now cuz that's all you can do. The tenth amendment is death for the federal dictatorship and you know it.

Amendment XIV

(Ratified July 9, 1868)

Section 1

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Section 3

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave. But all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5

The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.


Amendment XVI

(Ratified February 3, 1913)

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Amendment XVII

(Ratified April 8, 1913)

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.

These amendments in combination with the powers previously given to the United States effectively render the states as empty shells having no power whatsoever over the federal government.

That's BS. Those amendments in no way invalidate 10.

 

[RKMBrown]

HAHAHA. No, i don't note that. You're just making stuff up now cuz that's all you can do. The tenth amendment is death for the federal dictatorship and you know it.

Amendment XIV

(Ratified July 9, 1868)

Section 1

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Section 3

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave. But all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5

The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.


Amendment XVI

(Ratified February 3, 1913)

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Amendment XVII

(Ratified April 8, 1913)

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.

These amendments in combination with the powers previously given to the United States effectively render the states as empty shells having no power whatsoever over the federal government.

That's BS. Those amendments in no way invalidate 10.

It is BS. But nevertheless, they do invalidate the powers the states previously had. Thus they do in every way imaginable, invalidate 10.

I'm not sure why you don't understand the plain meaning of these amendments. You are wrong, and the SCOTUS has ruled against your view to many times to count.

 

[JakeStarkey]

SS is fun.

HAHAHA. Another loonybird who won't address the issue. Thanks for admitting i'm right.

your right?.....we are still waiting over in YOUR thread STATING that Obama sets the postage prices for you to back that up....the board notes that you make a lot of statements that you just cant seem to back up.....

SS really operates out of a hate-filled syndrome fueled by nonsense information.

 

[JakeStarkey]

RMK administers a slap down to SS.

One can argue whether the latter amendments should exist, not that they affect the interpretation of the Constitution.