St. Louis couple defends their house from protestors, with guns. Do you support "stand your ground laws"?

[Hutch Starskey]

BULLDOG does not believe that humans have a right to self defense with the use of a a firearm.

This is why ALL OF YOU must NEVER take their word. They DO want ALL of your guns, PERIOD!!!

Funny that none of the other neighbors felt like they needed to defend themselves.They actually think these two are idiots.

‘Horrific’: Dozens of Neighbors Sign Letter Calling Out St. Louis Gun Couple

“I think we, as a group, were absolutely horrified,” one signatory said of the armed lawyer duo who won overnight infamy.

www.thedailybeast.com

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

I wouldn't equate pointing guns at protesters with drinking poison koolaid but of course the neighbors would do neither idiotic thing.

Well, that's you. What are these scum protesting in a gated community?

Well, that's you.

Sure is. I'm neither an idiot who is afraid of protesters or a pussy who needs to point guns at them.

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward. What are these scum protesting on the streets of innocent civilians?

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward.

So what? It's not required. I respond to what I think is important.
The protesters are innocent civilians, dope.

and what the fuck are the homeowners watching a crowd of people break down their gate, trespass on their property and threaten them and their dog?

you are just a fucking doosh-d-lux out of use fucknugget asshole.

and what the fuck are the homeowners watching a crowd of people break down their gate, trespass on their property and threaten them and their dog?

Liar.
I've posted the video of marchers passing through a very intact gate while the gun nuts were threatening the marchers. Anything said to them was a result of being threatened with dogs and firearms.

i posted pics of a smashed gate.

was it or was it not private property they were going through?
has there or has there NOT been a shitton of violence in st louis?

you keep dismissing violent act after violent act and every protested busted for violence you say is simply misunderstood. so far in your eyes NO PROTEST HAS BEEN VIOLENT.

pray tell then sir fuckupsalot, who is being violent that we see so much of?

suck on your bullshit stick son.

i posted pics of a smashed gate.

Good for you. Who broke it, dope?
They were not reacting to a "mob that broke down their gate". They were overreacting to a group of scary black marchers.
Funny that no one else the entire day had a problem.
There was no violence to dismiss, dope.

no one else had a problem because the rioters got repelled by the couple before they could get into the area,,,

no one else had a problem because the rioters got repelled by the couple before they could get into the area,,,

Wrong. This happened within the last mile of a nine mile march to the mayor's home.
The neighbors thought they were idiots.

 

[progressive hunter]

BULLDOG does not believe that humans have a right to self defense with the use of a a firearm.

This is why ALL OF YOU must NEVER take their word. They DO want ALL of your guns, PERIOD!!!

Funny that none of the other neighbors felt like they needed to defend themselves.They actually think these two are idiots.

‘Horrific’: Dozens of Neighbors Sign Letter Calling Out St. Louis Gun Couple

“I think we, as a group, were absolutely horrified,” one signatory said of the armed lawyer duo who won overnight infamy.

www.thedailybeast.com

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

I wouldn't equate pointing guns at protesters with drinking poison koolaid but of course the neighbors would do neither idiotic thing.

Well, that's you. What are these scum protesting in a gated community?

Well, that's you.

Sure is. I'm neither an idiot who is afraid of protesters or a pussy who needs to point guns at them.

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward. What are these scum protesting on the streets of innocent civilians?

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward.

So what? It's not required. I respond to what I think is important.
The protesters are innocent civilians, dope.

and what the fuck are the homeowners watching a crowd of people break down their gate, trespass on their property and threaten them and their dog?

you are just a fucking doosh-d-lux out of use fucknugget asshole.

and what the fuck are the homeowners watching a crowd of people break down their gate, trespass on their property and threaten them and their dog?

Liar.
I've posted the video of marchers passing through a very intact gate while the gun nuts were threatening the marchers. Anything said to them was a result of being threatened with dogs and firearms.

i posted pics of a smashed gate.

was it or was it not private property they were going through?
has there or has there NOT been a shitton of violence in st louis?

you keep dismissing violent act after violent act and every protested busted for violence you say is simply misunderstood. so far in your eyes NO PROTEST HAS BEEN VIOLENT.

pray tell then sir fuckupsalot, who is being violent that we see so much of?

suck on your bullshit stick son.

i posted pics of a smashed gate.

Good for you. Who broke it, dope?
They were not reacting to a "mob that broke down their gate". They were overreacting to a group of scary black marchers.
Funny that no one else the entire day had a problem.
There was no violence to dismiss, dope.

no one else had a problem because the rioters got repelled by the couple before they could get into the area,,,

no one else had a problem because the rioters got repelled by the couple before they could get into the area,,,

Wrong. This happened within the last mile of a nine mile march to the mayor's home.
The neighbors thought they were idiots.

thats not what I said,,,

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

BULLDOG does not believe that humans have a right to self defense with the use of a a firearm.

This is why ALL OF YOU must NEVER take their word. They DO want ALL of your guns, PERIOD!!!

Funny that none of the other neighbors felt like they needed to defend themselves.They actually think these two are idiots.

‘Horrific’: Dozens of Neighbors Sign Letter Calling Out St. Louis Gun Couple

“I think we, as a group, were absolutely horrified,” one signatory said of the armed lawyer duo who won overnight infamy.

www.thedailybeast.com

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

I wouldn't equate pointing guns at protesters with drinking poison koolaid but of course the neighbors would do neither idiotic thing.

Well, that's you. What are these scum protesting in a gated community?

Well, that's you.

Sure is. I'm neither an idiot who is afraid of protesters or a pussy who needs to point guns at them.

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward. What are these scum protesting on the streets of innocent civilians?

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward.

So what? It's not required. I respond to what I think is important.
The protesters are innocent civilians, dope.

No, you didn't respond because you can't. What are they protesting in that neighborhood? Those people haven't done anything. Idiot.

No, you didn't respond because you can't. What are they protesting in that neighborhood? Those people haven't done anything. Idiot.

I didnt respond because it's retarded and irrelevant.
They were passing through the neighborhood enroute to the mayor's home, dope.
It was a 9 mile protest march.

Then why didn't they keep marching to his house? According to the victim, the Mayor doesn't even live in that community.

Then why didn't they keep marching to his house? According to the victim, the Mayor doesn't even live in that community.

They did, dope. They were passing through.

I seen the video. It looked like they were stopped in front of their home to me, dope.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

BULLDOG does not believe that humans have a right to self defense with the use of a a firearm.

This is why ALL OF YOU must NEVER take their word. They DO want ALL of your guns, PERIOD!!!

Funny that none of the other neighbors felt like they needed to defend themselves.They actually think these two are idiots.

‘Horrific’: Dozens of Neighbors Sign Letter Calling Out St. Louis Gun Couple

“I think we, as a group, were absolutely horrified,” one signatory said of the armed lawyer duo who won overnight infamy.

www.thedailybeast.com

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

I wouldn't equate pointing guns at protesters with drinking poison koolaid but of course the neighbors would do neither idiotic thing.

Well, that's you. What are these scum protesting in a gated community?

Well, that's you.

Sure is. I'm neither an idiot who is afraid of protesters or a pussy who needs to point guns at them.

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward. What are these scum protesting on the streets of innocent civilians?

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward.

So what? It's not required. I respond to what I think is important.
The protesters are innocent civilians, dope.

and what the fuck are the homeowners watching a crowd of people break down their gate, trespass on their property and threaten them and their dog?

you are just a fucking doosh-d-lux out of use fucknugget asshole.

and what the fuck are the homeowners watching a crowd of people break down their gate, trespass on their property and threaten them and their dog?

Liar.
I've posted the video of marchers passing through a very intact gate while the gun nuts were threatening the marchers. Anything said to them was a result of being threatened with dogs and firearms.

i posted pics of a smashed gate.

was it or was it not private property they were going through?
has there or has there NOT been a shitton of violence in st louis?

you keep dismissing violent act after violent act and every protested busted for violence you say is simply misunderstood. so far in your eyes NO PROTEST HAS BEEN VIOLENT.

pray tell then sir fuckupsalot, who is being violent that we see so much of?

suck on your bullshit stick son.

i posted pics of a smashed gate.

Good for you. Who broke it, dope?
They were not reacting to a "mob that broke down their gate". They were overreacting to a group of scary black marchers.
Funny that no one else the entire day had a problem.
There was no violence to dismiss, dope.

no one else had a problem because the rioters got repelled by the couple before they could get into the area,,,

no one else had a problem because the rioters got repelled by the couple before they could get into the area,,,

Wrong. This happened within the last mile of a nine mile march to the mayor's home.
The neighbors thought they were idiots.

thats not what I said,,,

not what I said,

I know. You're a liar.
The marchers continued on to the mayor's home through the neighborhood. The neighbors thought they overreacted and behaved stupidly.

‘Horrific’: Dozens of Neighbors Sign Letter Calling Out St. Louis Gun Couple

“I think we, as a group, were absolutely horrified,” one signatory said of the armed lawyer duo who won overnight infamy.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Liar.
Anything said by the protesters was in response to the homeowner's actions. No one told them to let their dogs out to intimidate marchers.
Had they remained indoors, the crowd would have passed without incident. Just as it had for the rest of the 9 mile march.

Wasn't a lie.. He's a famous lawyer.. AND a huge lefty.. THAT is his PUBLIC STATEMENT.. The threats I heard were very detailed.

I didn't see any dogs attacking anyone..

THey MIGHT have passed by... And MAYBE they wouldn't... That's WHY it's good to make SURE they move on.. They already disrespected a GATE and a sign CLEARLY marking the road as PRIVATE...

And according to McCloskey, one guy took 2 pistol clips out of his backpack, tapped them together WHILE MAKING a threat to kill the dog, the family, burn the house...

I saw a couple organizers TRYING to keep the marchers moving.. But obviously, some couldn't pass up an opportunity for some good verbal confrontation...

Liar.
Anything said by the protesters was in response to the homeowner's actions. No one told them to let their dogs out to intimidate marchers.
Had they remained indoors, the crowd would have passed without incident. Just as it had for the rest of the 9 mile march.

Wasn't a lie.. He's a famous lawyer.. AND a huge lefty.. THAT is his PUBLIC STATEMENT.. The threats I heard were very detailed.

I didn't see any dogs attacking anyone..

THey MIGHT have passed by... And MAYBE they wouldn't... That's WHY it's good to make SURE they move on.. They already disrespected a GATE and a sign CLEARLY marking the road as PRIVATE...

And according to McCloskey, one guy took 2 pistol clips out of his backpack, tapped them together WHILE MAKING a threat to kill the dog, the family, burn the house...

I saw a couple organizers TRYING to keep the marchers moving.. But obviously, some couldn't pass up an opportunity for some good verbal confrontation...

I didn't see any dogs attacking anyone..

THey MIGHT have passed by... And MAYBE they wouldn't... That's WHY it's good to make SURE they move on.. They already disrespected a GATE and a sign CLEARLY marking the road as PRIVATE..

Why let the dog out if not to intimidate?
Might have passed by?
They were within a mile of the Mayor's home after a nine mile march. It was covered on the news that day.
Their neighbors understood what was happening and thought they acted stupidly.

‘Horrific’: Dozens of Neighbors Sign Letter Calling Out St. Louis Gun Couple

“I think we, as a group, were absolutely horrified,” one signatory said of the armed lawyer duo who won overnight infamy.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Hutch Starskey]

BULLDOG does not believe that humans have a right to self defense with the use of a a firearm.

This is why ALL OF YOU must NEVER take their word. They DO want ALL of your guns, PERIOD!!!

Funny that none of the other neighbors felt like they needed to defend themselves.They actually think these two are idiots.

‘Horrific’: Dozens of Neighbors Sign Letter Calling Out St. Louis Gun Couple

“I think we, as a group, were absolutely horrified,” one signatory said of the armed lawyer duo who won overnight infamy.

www.thedailybeast.com

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

I wouldn't equate pointing guns at protesters with drinking poison koolaid but of course the neighbors would do neither idiotic thing.

Well, that's you. What are these scum protesting in a gated community?

Well, that's you.

Sure is. I'm neither an idiot who is afraid of protesters or a pussy who needs to point guns at them.

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward. What are these scum protesting on the streets of innocent civilians?

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward.

So what? It's not required. I respond to what I think is important.
The protesters are innocent civilians, dope.

No, you didn't respond because you can't. What are they protesting in that neighborhood? Those people haven't done anything. Idiot.

No, you didn't respond because you can't. What are they protesting in that neighborhood? Those people haven't done anything. Idiot.

I didnt respond because it's retarded and irrelevant.
They were passing through the neighborhood enroute to the mayor's home, dope.
It was a 9 mile protest march.

Then why didn't they keep marching to his house? According to the victim, the Mayor doesn't even live in that community.

Then why didn't they keep marching to his house? According to the victim, the Mayor doesn't even live in that community.

They did, dope. They were passing through.

I seen the video. It looked like they were stopped in front of their home to me, dope.

I seen the video. It looked like they were stopped in front of their home to me, dope.

Yes...after being confronted with guns, dope.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

According to you, it's illegal for someone to stand on their own property holding a firearm?

Go to fucking ass-rape hell.

Why don't you go live in a country where the natural right to self defense has been completely infringed.

Go live somewhere else. Go live where you can be "safe" from all these "gun nuts."

You have your pick of pretty much anywhere else in the world. We have nowhere else we can go.

Get the fuck out.

You're damn right you have nowhere else to go. Sensible people people in your country don't want guns either. AMERICANS want to enjoy the safety and security of living in a country where anyone who feels threatened by "others" can't shoot them.

A study I read a few years ago that took the stories of gun owners who had drawn their guns to defend themselves from the threat of crimes being committed against them. These were licensed, "responsible" gun owners. None had criminal records. In the cases which wer reviewed,

Their stories were reviewed by a group of retired criminal judges. Only the gun owners' stories were heard, and their stories weren't questioned. The judges found that most gun owners were guilty of criminal offences, when they pulled the gun. What the gun owners called "self-defence", was using their gun to threaten and intimmidate others. In nearly every case the judges reviewed, the gun owner was, at all times, the aggressor.

What you have created is a nation where "shoot first, ask questions later" is a way of life. Just read the posts of the Internet Rambos here. If they feel threatened, they will use lethal force, and apologize if they're wrong. It doesn't matter whether the threat is real or not. And if they do, they'll likely end up in jail for murder, or at best, manslaughter.

They think they can argue their way out of a murder charge if they're wrong, because of "Castle Doctrine" or "Stand Your Ground". This ignorant and wrong headed interpretation of these laws is why the murder rates rise so precipitiously after SYG laws have been enacted. The first question asked when lethal force is used isn't whether you felt threatened, but whether or not the threat was real.

As crime goes down, conservatives are buying more and more guns. "Feeling threatened" is not the same thing as being threatened. I have to ask myself, if crime rates are going down, the police are brutally clamping down on the "thugs", why do you all feel so threatened?

Gun Threats and Self-Defense Gun Use

1-3. Guns are not used millions of times each year in self-defense We use epidemiological theory to explain why the “false positive” problem for rare events can lead to large overestimates of the i…

www.hsph.harvard.edu

https://brooklynworks.brooklaw.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1095&context=blr

You're damn right you have nowhere else to go. Sensible people people in your country don't want guns either. AMERICANS want to enjoy the safety and security of living in a country where anyone who feels threatened by "others" can't shoot them.

"NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE YOUR GUNS AWAY!"


There will be no more "common sense" gun control. You proved your motives right there.

NO MORE OR THE SHOOTING BEGINS!!!

 

[Hutch Starskey]

BULLDOG does not believe that humans have a right to self defense with the use of a a firearm.

This is why ALL OF YOU must NEVER take their word. They DO want ALL of your guns, PERIOD!!!

Funny that none of the other neighbors felt like they needed to defend themselves.They actually think these two are idiots.

‘Horrific’: Dozens of Neighbors Sign Letter Calling Out St. Louis Gun Couple

“I think we, as a group, were absolutely horrified,” one signatory said of the armed lawyer duo who won overnight infamy.

www.thedailybeast.com

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

I wouldn't equate pointing guns at protesters with drinking poison koolaid but of course the neighbors would do neither idiotic thing.

Well, that's you. What are these scum protesting in a gated community?

Well, that's you.

Sure is. I'm neither an idiot who is afraid of protesters or a pussy who needs to point guns at them.

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward. What are these scum protesting on the streets of innocent civilians?

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward.

So what? It's not required. I respond to what I think is important.
The protesters are innocent civilians, dope.

and what the fuck are the homeowners watching a crowd of people break down their gate, trespass on their property and threaten them and their dog?

you are just a fucking doosh-d-lux out of use fucknugget asshole.

and what the fuck are the homeowners watching a crowd of people break down their gate, trespass on their property and threaten them and their dog?

Liar.
I've posted the video of marchers passing through a very intact gate while the gun nuts were threatening the marchers. Anything said to them was a result of being threatened with dogs and firearms.

Liar.

You posted a video of rioters marching in through the gates that very conveniently hid HOW the gates were purged. Now the gates are held up by chains.

Liar.

You posted a video of rioters marching in through the gates that very conveniently hid HOW the gates were purged. Now the gates are held up by chains.

I hid nothing, dope.
The truth is, you have no idea of who broke the gate. The homeowner has lied repeatedly. He said he got his gun when he saw them break down the gate. The videos shows otherwise.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

All gun laws must be repealed.

If not, we need SCOTUS justices who will declare them all unconstitutional!!!

 

[Hutch Starskey]

BULLDOG does not believe that humans have a right to self defense with the use of a a firearm.

This is why ALL OF YOU must NEVER take their word. They DO want ALL of your guns, PERIOD!!!

Funny that none of the other neighbors felt like they needed to defend themselves.They actually think these two are idiots.

‘Horrific’: Dozens of Neighbors Sign Letter Calling Out St. Louis Gun Couple

“I think we, as a group, were absolutely horrified,” one signatory said of the armed lawyer duo who won overnight infamy.

www.thedailybeast.com

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

I wouldn't equate pointing guns at protesters with drinking poison koolaid but of course the neighbors would do neither idiotic thing.

Well, that's you. What are these scum protesting in a gated community?

Well, that's you.

Sure is. I'm neither an idiot who is afraid of protesters or a pussy who needs to point guns at them.

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward. What are these scum protesting on the streets of innocent civilians?

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward.

So what? It's not required. I respond to what I think is important.
The protesters are innocent civilians, dope.

No, you didn't respond because you can't. What are they protesting in that neighborhood? Those people haven't done anything. Idiot.

They THOUGHT they were marching on the Mayor's house.. But ironically enough, the high power lefty lawyer told the media --- "You cannot reach the Mayor's house thru the private drive"...

Seems like the organizers can't read a map or get Mapquest instructions from the web...

OR WORSE -- lied about marching on the Mayor's house and chose that neighborhood for other reasons...

The St. Louis lawyer who pulled a gun on protestors tells Chris Cuomo âmy life has been ruinedâ

Mark McCloskey called the viral incident ‘terrorism,’ claiming protestors threatened to kill his dog and burn down his house

www.marketwatch.com

Cuomo countered by calling terrorism “a strong word,” especially considering the McCloskeys were the ones who were armed. In response, McCloskey questioned the true intentions of the protestors, noting that the mayor doesn’t even live in his gated community. He accused the group of entering the neighborhood to be as disruptive as possible.

"You cannot reach the Mayor's house thru the private drive"...

Yet they did, dope

Not thru that road they didn't...

Not thru that road they didn't..

Sure.
Maybe post their route.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

i posted pics of a smashed gate.

was it or was it not private property they were going through?
has there or has there NOT been a shitton of violence in st louis?

you keep dismissing violent act after violent act and every protested busted for violence you say is simply misunderstood. so far in your eyes NO PROTEST HAS BEEN VIOLENT.

pray tell then sir fuckupsalot, who is being violent that we see so much of?

suck on your bullshit stick son.

I also posted pics of the smashed gate. Hutch Starskey is just a pathological liar, as most leftists are. I love how the Himmlerites post videos that start AFTER the gate is already purged and then say "See, our Brown Shirts it down to threaten the Juden."

I also posted pics of the smashed gate. @Hutch Starskey is just a pathological liar, as most leftists are. I love how the Himmlerites post videos that start AFTER the gate is already purged and then say "See, our Brown Shirts it down to threaten the Juden."

The video shows it was not broken at the time the crowd was under gunpoint, liar.

 

[progressive hunter]

BULLDOG does not believe that humans have a right to self defense with the use of a a firearm.

This is why ALL OF YOU must NEVER take their word. They DO want ALL of your guns, PERIOD!!!

Funny that none of the other neighbors felt like they needed to defend themselves.They actually think these two are idiots.

‘Horrific’: Dozens of Neighbors Sign Letter Calling Out St. Louis Gun Couple

“I think we, as a group, were absolutely horrified,” one signatory said of the armed lawyer duo who won overnight infamy.

www.thedailybeast.com

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

I wouldn't equate pointing guns at protesters with drinking poison koolaid but of course the neighbors would do neither idiotic thing.

Well, that's you. What are these scum protesting in a gated community?

Well, that's you.

Sure is. I'm neither an idiot who is afraid of protesters or a pussy who needs to point guns at them.

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward. What are these scum protesting on the streets of innocent civilians?

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward.

So what? It's not required. I respond to what I think is important.
The protesters are innocent civilians, dope.

No, you didn't respond because you can't. What are they protesting in that neighborhood? Those people haven't done anything. Idiot.

They THOUGHT they were marching on the Mayor's house.. But ironically enough, the high power lefty lawyer told the media --- "You cannot reach the Mayor's house thru the private drive"...

Seems like the organizers can't read a map or get Mapquest instructions from the web...

OR WORSE -- lied about marching on the Mayor's house and chose that neighborhood for other reasons...

The St. Louis lawyer who pulled a gun on protestors tells Chris Cuomo âmy life has been ruinedâ

Mark McCloskey called the viral incident ‘terrorism,’ claiming protestors threatened to kill his dog and burn down his house

www.marketwatch.com

Cuomo countered by calling terrorism “a strong word,” especially considering the McCloskeys were the ones who were armed. In response, McCloskey questioned the true intentions of the protestors, noting that the mayor doesn’t even live in his gated community. He accused the group of entering the neighborhood to be as disruptive as possible.

"You cannot reach the Mayor's house thru the private drive"...

Yet they did, dope

Not thru that road they didn't...

Not thru that road they didn't..

Sure.
Maybe post their route.

its your claim you post it,,,

 

[Desperado]

You seriously have to ask that question when the libs want to defund the police?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Sure you can, the criminal is the one committing a crime.

Does that include the crime of brandishing?

View attachment 359944

Everytime I see these two, I just start laughing.

Everytime I see these two, I just start laughing.

So do their neighbors.

What conservatives see...


What liberals see...

 

[Hutch Starskey]

BULLDOG does not believe that humans have a right to self defense with the use of a a firearm.

This is why ALL OF YOU must NEVER take their word. They DO want ALL of your guns, PERIOD!!!

Funny that none of the other neighbors felt like they needed to defend themselves.They actually think these two are idiots.

‘Horrific’: Dozens of Neighbors Sign Letter Calling Out St. Louis Gun Couple

“I think we, as a group, were absolutely horrified,” one signatory said of the armed lawyer duo who won overnight infamy.

www.thedailybeast.com

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

I wouldn't equate pointing guns at protesters with drinking poison koolaid but of course the neighbors would do neither idiotic thing.

Well, that's you. What are these scum protesting in a gated community?

Well, that's you.

Sure is. I'm neither an idiot who is afraid of protesters or a pussy who needs to point guns at them.

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward. What are these scum protesting on the streets of innocent civilians?

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward.

So what? It's not required. I respond to what I think is important.
The protesters are innocent civilians, dope.

and what the fuck are the homeowners watching a crowd of people break down their gate, trespass on their property and threaten them and their dog?

you are just a fucking doosh-d-lux out of use fucknugget asshole.

and what the fuck are the homeowners watching a crowd of people break down their gate, trespass on their property and threaten them and their dog?

Liar.
I've posted the video of marchers passing through a very intact gate while the gun nuts were threatening the marchers. Anything said to them was a result of being threatened with dogs and firearms.

i posted pics of a smashed gate.

was it or was it not private property they were going through?
has there or has there NOT been a shitton of violence in st louis?

you keep dismissing violent act after violent act and every protested busted for violence you say is simply misunderstood. so far in your eyes NO PROTEST HAS BEEN VIOLENT.

pray tell then sir fuckupsalot, who is being violent that we see so much of?

suck on your bullshit stick son.

i posted pics of a smashed gate.

Good for you. Who broke it, dope?
They were not reacting to a "mob that broke down their gate". They were overreacting to a group of scary black marchers.
Funny that no one else the entire day had a problem.
There was no violence to dismiss, dope.

you have no idea if other people along the way or in the housing complex
"had a problem" with the jerky exhibitionist marchers

you have no idea if other people along the way or in the housing complex
"had a problem" with the jerky exhibitionist marchers

Post it or stfu.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

BULLDOG does not believe that humans have a right to self defense with the use of a a firearm.

This is why ALL OF YOU must NEVER take their word. They DO want ALL of your guns, PERIOD!!!

Funny that none of the other neighbors felt like they needed to defend themselves.They actually think these two are idiots.

‘Horrific’: Dozens of Neighbors Sign Letter Calling Out St. Louis Gun Couple

“I think we, as a group, were absolutely horrified,” one signatory said of the armed lawyer duo who won overnight infamy.

www.thedailybeast.com

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

I wouldn't equate pointing guns at protesters with drinking poison koolaid but of course the neighbors would do neither idiotic thing.

Well, that's you. What are these scum protesting in a gated community?

Well, that's you.

Sure is. I'm neither an idiot who is afraid of protesters or a pussy who needs to point guns at them.

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward. What are these scum protesting on the streets of innocent civilians?

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward.

So what? It's not required. I respond to what I think is important.
The protesters are innocent civilians, dope.

No, you didn't respond because you can't. What are they protesting in that neighborhood? Those people haven't done anything. Idiot.

They THOUGHT they were marching on the Mayor's house.. But ironically enough, the high power lefty lawyer told the media --- "You cannot reach the Mayor's house thru the private drive"...

Seems like the organizers can't read a map or get Mapquest instructions from the web...

OR WORSE -- lied about marching on the Mayor's house and chose that neighborhood for other reasons...

The St. Louis lawyer who pulled a gun on protestors tells Chris Cuomo âmy life has been ruinedâ

Mark McCloskey called the viral incident ‘terrorism,’ claiming protestors threatened to kill his dog and burn down his house

www.marketwatch.com

Cuomo countered by calling terrorism “a strong word,” especially considering the McCloskeys were the ones who were armed. In response, McCloskey questioned the true intentions of the protestors, noting that the mayor doesn’t even live in his gated community. He accused the group of entering the neighborhood to be as disruptive as possible.

"You cannot reach the Mayor's house thru the private drive"...

Yet they did, dope

Not thru that road they didn't...

Not thru that road they didn't..

Sure.
Maybe post their route.

its your claim you post it,,,

its your claim you post it,,

It was his claim that they couldn't reach it from there, dope.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Sure you can, the criminal is the one committing a crime.

Does that include the crime of brandishing?

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Everytime I see these two, I just start laughing.

Everytime I see these two, I just start laughing.

So do their neighbors.

What conservatives see...
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What liberals see...
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What everybody sees:

The difference is how it is labeled.

"Mostly peaceful" couldn't be more misleading.

 

[hadit]

Missouri is a "stand your ground" state. People have the right to defend their home and property, period.

Stand-your-ground law - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Couple pointing guns at protesters unlikely to face charges, law professor says

Could the gun-wielding attorneys find themselves in legal trouble? Not likely, according to one St. Louis law professor

www.ksdk.com

Even though the Leftist MSM wants legal action against the McClosky's for threatening "peaceful protestors", the law is on their side.

Do you support "stand your ground laws"? (poll)

You're free to show us all where any of those protesters were anything other than peacefully walking through the neighborhood.

that wasn't a neighborhood. it was private property. if you have zero respect for others property and accomplishments then don't expect for anyone to respect anything of yours.

now you're free to explain why you are condoning the violence going on right now.

that wasn't a neighborhood. it was private property. if you have zero respect for others property and accomplishments then don't expect for anyone to respect anything of yours.

now you're free to explain why you are condoning the violence going on right now.

It was a neighborhood, dope. They were marching to the mayor's home. There was no violence to condone.

They issued threats against the life of the homeowners and their dog. Threatening to KILL someone while on their property can be a fatal move...

They issued threats against the life of the homeowners and their dog. Threatening to KILL someone while on their property can be a fatal move.

Liar.
Anything said by the protesters was in response to the homeowner's actions. No one told them to let their dogs out to intimidate marchers.
Had they remained indoors, the crowd would have passed without incident. Just as it had for the rest of the 9 mile march.
Even their neighbors thought they were idiots.

And you know this how? Based on anything more than just your feelz and the way you think it SHOULD have gone down? They didn't know the marchers intentions, did they? They obviously didn't want to remain in their house and become another notch on some rioters belt, so they came out and made it known that they were armed and ready to defend themselves and their property. This is yet another successful defensive gun use that didn't result in anyone getting shot, one among millions every year.

 

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BULLDOG does not believe that humans have a right to self defense with the use of a a firearm.

This is why ALL OF YOU must NEVER take their word. They DO want ALL of your guns, PERIOD!!!

Funny that none of the other neighbors felt like they needed to defend themselves.They actually think these two are idiots.

‘Horrific’: Dozens of Neighbors Sign Letter Calling Out St. Louis Gun Couple

“I think we, as a group, were absolutely horrified,” one signatory said of the armed lawyer duo who won overnight infamy.

www.thedailybeast.com

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

So? If your neighbors drink poisoned Kool Aid are you going to drink it?

I wouldn't equate pointing guns at protesters with drinking poison koolaid but of course the neighbors would do neither idiotic thing.

Well, that's you. What are these scum protesting in a gated community?

Well, that's you.

Sure is. I'm neither an idiot who is afraid of protesters or a pussy who needs to point guns at them.

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward. What are these scum protesting on the streets of innocent civilians?

You didn't quote my entire post, you coward.

So what? It's not required. I respond to what I think is important.
The protesters are innocent civilians, dope.

and what the fuck are the homeowners watching a crowd of people break down their gate, trespass on their property and threaten them and their dog?

you are just a fucking doosh-d-lux out of use fucknugget asshole.

and what the fuck are the homeowners watching a crowd of people break down their gate, trespass on their property and threaten them and their dog?

Liar.
I've posted the video of marchers passing through a very intact gate while the gun nuts were threatening the marchers. Anything said to them was a result of being threatened with dogs and firearms.

i posted pics of a smashed gate.

was it or was it not private property they were going through?
has there or has there NOT been a shitton of violence in st louis?

you keep dismissing violent act after violent act and every protested busted for violence you say is simply misunderstood. so far in your eyes NO PROTEST HAS BEEN VIOLENT.

pray tell then sir fuckupsalot, who is being violent that we see so much of?

suck on your bullshit stick son.

i posted pics of a smashed gate.

Good for you. Who broke it, dope?
They were not reacting to a "mob that broke down their gate". They were overreacting to a group of scary black marchers.
Funny that no one else the entire day had a problem.
There was no violence to dismiss, dope.

Everyone else was scared and hiding in their basement.

 

[hadit]

Hutch Starskey, seems to disagree with my write up about the Castle Doctrine. I'm not exactly sure as to what part of the statement Starskey disagrees with but the following is fact and can easily be found.
1. Missouri is a Castle Doctrine/Castle Law, state.
2. The Castle Doctrine designates a person's abode or legally occupied place (home or car), has protections and immunities, permitting the person(s) in certain circumstances to use force, including, if deemed necessary, deadly force, to defend oneself against an intruder, free from legal prosecution for the consequences of the force used.
3. The "mob" broke through the gate, trespassing onto private property and threatened to burn down the home.
4. The couple felt in fear for themselves and responded lawfully, per the Castle Doctrine and due to their personal restraint, no one was shot.

Hutch isn't the oly one who disagrees with your write up.

2. The Missouri "Castle Doctrine" law does not allow you to use deadly force only to protect propecty. (See links and quotes below.)

3. There is no evidence that anyone "broke through their gate", only that they gate was opened. Simply trespassing does not allow you to use deadly force ever. Only if your life is in imminent danger.

4 The couples' fear was unreasonable, and the threat they faced was WAY OUT OF LINE to their reaction, which means they're going to have to plead guilty.

However, case law suggests it does not go so far as permitting the use of deadly force to merely protect property. In 2016, the Missouri Court of Appeals for the Eastern District held in State v. Whipple that deadly force under the castle doctrine can only be used when you reasonably believe such force is necessary . . .


Deadly force:

• May be used when a person reasonably believes that the level of force is necessary for self-defense or defense of others (including unborn children) in response to an imminent threat.

Exact statute says:

A person may, subject to the limitations of subsection 2, use physical force upon another person when and to the extent that he or she reasonably believes it necessary to prevent what he or she reasonably believes to be the commission or attempted commission by such person of stealing, property damage or tampering in any degree.

2. A person may use deadly force under circumstances described in subsection 1 only when such use of deadly force is authorized under other sections of this chapter.

3. The justification afforded by this section extends to the use of physical restraint as protective force provided that the actor takes all reasonable measures to terminate the restraint as soon as it is reasonable to do so.

4. The defendant shall have the burden of injecting the issue of justification under this section.

Missouri Revised Statutes Title XXXVIII. Crimes and Punishment; Peace Officers and Public Defenders § 563.041 | FindLaw

Missouri Revised Statutes Title XXXVIII. Crimes and Punishment; Peace Officers and Public Defenders Section 563.041. Read the code on FindLaw

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So if a couple guys walk into your home and start breaking valuables, you're going to grab a beer and sit back and watch, huh.

Is that what happened there?

Give us a scenario where you believe self defense with (or the mere display of or "brandishing") firearms is justified.

"Brandishing firearms" is a polite term for "threatening with a firearm".

In answer to your question: Since you can't defend yourself with deadly force, unless threatened with deadly force, unless you see a verifiably see a gun or other deadly weapon, you cannot use or threaten deadly force. You cannot use deadly force to defend your property, only your life, or someone else's.

Not true in most states. Here (and I'm sure in most places) the law allows us to use deadly force if we believe that we (or others) are in jeopardy of serious bodily harm or death. Serious bodily harm has no legal definition. Belief is something only the individual can testify to since it's impossible for a prosecutor to show what you believed at the time, unless you do something stupid like go on Facebook and tell people you killed some clown even though you knew you could beat the hell out of him and didn't really need a weapon for self-defense.

These laws apply to citizens and police officers alike.

The couple were justified in their concern for their safety. Missouri law professors say that the couple were clearly within their rights via the Castle Doctrine. Had the protesters stayed on public streets, they would have been within the law, but they "trespassed" onto private property, which was the private street that the couple shared with the Mayor. Once they trespassed onto private property, the couple's defense of the property, even the land, fell clearly in within purview of the Castle Doctrine. Check it out yourself with any law professor in Missouri. Denial isn't going to change the law.

This is how civil wars begin. The left (MSM) won't be satisfied until they get one.

The left aren't the people who are bringing weapons to these protests. Those who have been arrested on weapons charges have been Boogaloo Bois, and right wing anarchists, trying to fulfill your wildest fantasies.

The rioters and looters, have largely been white suburban gangs and white supremacists, using the cover of the protests to loot high end stores in the case of the former, and attack and burn successful black businesses in the case of the latter.

How convenient. Every "peaceful" protester is a good guy, fighting for justice while everyone that commits violence is a plant from the other side, there to cause trouble. Answer this question and I think it will help you understand where you've gone wrong.

IF ALL THE VIOLENCE IS COMING FROM OUTSIDE THE ORGANIZATION THAT'S PROTESTING, WHY ISN'T THE ORGANIZATION LOUDLY CONDEMNING THE VIOLENCE AND INSISTING IT'S NOT COMING FROM THEM?