Southern Strategy is a conspiracy theory.

[RandomPoster]

Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.

Did your nose grow when you posted that , pinnochio?

The Theory is that the republicans have been pandering to the racist whites, since the dems flipped on segregation back in the 60s.


Your side always says that.


If challenged, you normally get very evasive, but it grilled you finally can be forced to admit that all you have to support your vile accusations,


if one interview, years after the fact with lee atwater, and the smoke and mirrors of "dog whistles".


It is utter bullshit. You've got nothing.

A higher percentage of Republicans voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act than Democrats. Both a larger number of Democrats voted for it and against it because Democrats had a significant majority in Congress in the time. However, Republicans voted for it by a higher percentage.

80% of Republicans in the House and 82% in the Senate voted for it.
69% of Democrats in the House and 63% in the Senate voted for it.

1964 Congress:
Senate: 68 Democrats and 32 Republicans
House: 253 Democrats and 177 Republicans

Original Housed version:

• Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
• Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)

Cloture in the Senate:

• Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
• Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

The Senate version:

• Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
• Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:

• Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
• Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)

A telling break down is between the Southern delegation and the Northern one.

The House of Representatives:[26]

• Northern: 281–32 (90–10%)
• Southern: 8–94 (8–92%)

The Senate:[26]

• Northern: 72–6 (92–8%)
• Southern: 1–21 (5–95%) (Ralph Yarborough of Texas was the only southerner to vote in favor in the Senate)

By party and region[edit]
The House of Representatives:[26]

• Southern Democrats: 8–87 (7–93%) (four Representatives from Texas, two from Tennessee, Claude Pepper of Florida and Charles L. Weltner of Georgia voted in favor)
• Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
• Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
• Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)

The Senate:[26]

• Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
• Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
• Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
• Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)

Overall, Republicans still voted for it in a higher percentage and it's only when you start selectively manipulating the statistics in a specific manner that you can paint a different picture.

So, 95% of Southern Democrats voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Why would this make racist Democrats suddenly leave the party? Did all the big government, high tax Democrats become small government, low tax, fiscally conservative Republicans and vice versa as both sides completely switched teams over one single issue?

 

[Rye Catcher]

Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.

Did your nose grow when you posted that , pinnochio?

The Theory is that the republicans have been pandering to the racist whites, since the dems flipped on segregation back in the 60s.


Your side always says that.


If challenged, you normally get very evasive, but it grilled you finally can be forced to admit that all you have to support your vile accusations,


if one interview, years after the fact with lee atwater, and the smoke and mirrors of "dog whistles".


It is utter bullshit. You've got nothing.

Wow, another effort to rewrite history. Truman took the first step by integrating our Armed Forces; The Warren Court integrated public Schools; IKE protected black children in Little Rock, LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act and the voting Rights Act and the Southern Democrats opposed all of them beginning with Strom Thurman, Gov's Wallace and Maddox; subsequently the South turned Red during the Nixon Administration and then came trumpism. The Right packed the Supreme Court, which watered down the voting rights act, opposed AA and consent decrees, labor unions and R v. W.

Civil Rights is no where in the Republican Platform and has not been sense their Platform in 1956.

 

[Correll]

Why, yes it is! (Wink wink)

More deflection. As per the op, eventually you will get around to the Atwater interview and magic "code words".

It is bullshit supporting a massive lie. It is the nation's biggest Conspiracy Theory, so well pushed, that it has become the Conventional Wisdom, accepted as the Truth, even though there is no evidence to support it.

That's funny. It's not like the Southern Democrats gave up their power in 64, or that the Republicans in the South didn't have to work hard to act like the old Dixiecrats to win control. Massive conspiracy? Nope, just politics. Taking over the southern states sounds like a worthy political objective. All politics is local. Their candidates played to the local voters and gathered their base. They out organized the Democrats at the local levels. And it worked. They should be proud of what they accomplished in a generation.

The Southern Strategy Conspiracy Theory is that they pandered to racists, to do that.


Except the republicans did no such thing.

If you think that the republicans did it by "out organizing" the dems, ,then you agree with me, ,that the SSCT is not true.

So state so clearly and we can sing Kum Bia Yah, together.

 

[BlindBoo]

Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.

Did your nose grow when you posted that , pinnochio?

The Theory is that the republicans have been pandering to the racist whites, since the dems flipped on segregation back in the 60s.


Your side always says that.


If challenged, you normally get very evasive, but it grilled you finally can be forced to admit that all you have to support your vile accusations,


if one interview, years after the fact with lee atwater, and the smoke and mirrors of "dog whistles".


It is utter bullshit. You've got nothing.

A higher percentage of Republicans voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act than Democrats. Both a larger number of Democrats voted for it and against it because Democrats had a significant majority in Congress in the time. However, Republicans voted for it by a higher percentage.

80% of Republicans in the House and 82% in the Senate voted for it.
69% of Democrats in the House and 63% in the Senate voted for it.

1964 Congress:
Senate: 68 Democrats and 32 Republicans
House: 253 Democrats and 177 Republicans

Original Housed version:

• Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
• Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)

Cloture in the Senate:

• Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
• Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

The Senate version:

• Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
• Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:

• Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
• Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)

A telling break down is between the Southern delegation and the Northern one.

The House of Representatives:[26]

• Northern: 281–32 (90–10%)
• Southern: 8–94 (8–92%)

The Senate:[26]

• Northern: 72–6 (92–8%)
• Southern: 1–21 (5–95%) (Ralph Yarborough of Texas was the only southerner to vote in favor in the Senate)

By party and region[edit]
The House of Representatives:[26]

• Southern Democrats: 8–87 (7–93%) (four Representatives from Texas, two from Tennessee, Claude Pepper of Florida and Charles L. Weltner of Georgia voted in favor)
• Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
• Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
• Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)

The Senate:[26]

• Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
• Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
• Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
• Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)

Overall, Republicans still voted for it in a higher percentage and it's only when you start selectively manipulating the statistics in a specific manner that you can paint a different picture.

So, 95% of Southern Democrats voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Why would this make racist Democrats suddenly leave the party? Did all the big government, high tax Democrats become small government, low tax, fiscally conservative Republicans and vice versa as both sides completely switched teams over one single issue?

I don't really care about the specific breakdown by region and party. It was in Wiki.

The point is the North mostly vote for it regardless of party, and the South mostly voted against it regardless of party.

 

[Juicin]

Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.

It's not a conspiracy theory

Lee Atwater was taped explaining it in great and vulgar detail

Atwater was the Karl Rove of his era, except more influential. He explained the game theory behind it and everything.



The Libertarian Party spawned out of this idea. Ron Paul wants a pre reconstruction america. Not to be racist but so he can have his own little theocracy in east texas. But another effect of that would allow segregation. Which is why he's gotten in trouble for publishing white supremacist crap. They're in the same political movement, states rights = southern strategy bread and butter.

NAP libertarians are not what you get in the Libertarian party for the most part.

 

[RandomPoster]

Another myth is that Nixon started the strategy to win the Southern segregationist states in 1968. However, Nixon lost the segregationist states in 1968. George Wallace won them. Richard Nixon was actually considered progressive on civil rights. He was one of the biggest proponents of the 1957 Civil Rights Act and in 1959, cast the tie-breaking vote as Vice President on a bill to strengthen voting rights for black Americans.

In 1972, Nixon won every state in the country except two and there was certainly no "Southern Strategy" involved.

 

[BlindBoo]

Why, yes it is! (Wink wink)

More deflection. As per the op, eventually you will get around to the Atwater interview and magic "code words".

It is bullshit supporting a massive lie. It is the nation's biggest Conspiracy Theory, so well pushed, that it has become the Conventional Wisdom, accepted as the Truth, even though there is no evidence to support it.

That's funny. It's not like the Southern Democrats gave up their power in 64, or that the Republicans in the South didn't have to work hard to act like the old Dixiecrats to win control. Massive conspiracy? Nope, just politics. Taking over the southern states sounds like a worthy political objective. All politics is local. Their candidates played to the local voters and gathered their base. They out organized the Democrats at the local levels. And it worked. They should be proud of what they accomplished in a generation.

The Southern Strategy Conspiracy Theory is that they pandered to racists, to do that.


Except the republicans did no such thing.

If you think that the republicans did it by "out organizing" the dems, ,then you agree with me, ,that the SSCT is not true.

So state so clearly and we can sing Kum Bia Yah, together.

Individual candidates did pander to the Democrats old base. After the Dixiecrat, the new Democrats who now supported civil and voting right for minorities didn't have a leg to stand on with that base. It was a winning strategy.

 

[Correll]

Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.

Did your nose grow when you posted that , pinnochio?

The Theory is that the republicans have been pandering to the racist whites, since the dems flipped on segregation back in the 60s.


Your side always says that.


If challenged, you normally get very evasive, but it grilled you finally can be forced to admit that all you have to support your vile accusations,


if one interview, years after the fact with lee atwater, and the smoke and mirrors of "dog whistles".


It is utter bullshit. You've got nothing.

A higher percentage of Republicans voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act than Democrats. Both a larger number of Democrats voted for it and against it because Democrats had a significant majority in Congress in the time. However, Republicans voted for it by a higher percentage.

80% of Republicans in the House and 82% in the Senate voted for it.
69% of Democrats in the House and 63% in the Senate voted for it.

1964 Congress:
Senate: 68 Democrats and 32 Republicans
House: 253 Democrats and 177 Republicans

Original Housed version:

• Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
• Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)

Cloture in the Senate:

• Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
• Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

The Senate version:

• Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
• Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:

• Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
• Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)

since that time there has been a bi-partisan consensus on equality for blacks in this country.


The actual real "Racists" have been without a voice on the national level, since before I was born.


With that issue rendered moot, the structure that the dems had built to hold the South fell apart and the south was up for grabs BASED ON OTHER ISSUES.


This is made obvious, by the utter inability of libs to support the Southern Strategy Conspiracy Theory with any real evidence.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Why, yes it is! (Wink wink)

More deflection. As per the op, eventually you will get around to the Atwater interview and magic "code words".

It is bullshit supporting a massive lie. It is the nation's biggest Conspiracy Theory, so well pushed, that it has become the Conventional Wisdom, accepted as the Truth, even though there is no evidence to support it.

That's funny. It's not like the Southern Democrats gave up their power in 64, or that the Republicans in the South didn't have to work hard to act like the old Dixiecrats to win control. Massive conspiracy? Nope, just politics. Taking over the southern states sounds like a worthy political objective. All politics is local. Their candidates played to the local voters and gathered their base. They out organized the Democrats at the local levels. And it worked. They should be proud of what they accomplished in a generation.

The Southern Strategy Conspiracy Theory is that they pandered to racists, to do that.


Except the republicans did no such thing.

If you think that the republicans did it by "out organizing" the dems, ,then you agree with me, ,that the SSCT is not true.

So state so clearly and we can sing Kum Bia Yah, together.

LOL, a very weak piece of sophistry ^^^.

Southern Strategy

On August 14, 1970, Richard Nixon treated New Orleans, a city keen on parades, to a campaign-style motorcade. With Nixon standing and waving through the sunroof, his limousine moved slowly down wide…

www.southerncultures.org

 

[Correll]

Given the much bally-whoood "new enhancements", shouldn't the moderators move this bullsh!t thread to the "Conspiracy Theory" board?

Well, there is the rub, isn't it?


If the Southern Strategy is real, then no, it belongs in POlitics, because every GOP candidate is using his secret decoder ring, to send secret messages to the tens of millions of hiding wacists voters, who vote based on wacism in favor of secret wascist policies that have never been enacted and don't ever do anything....


If it is moved to Conspiracy Theory, that is the mods agreeing that the liberals of the site cannot support their claims and that the conventional wisdom is complete bullshit.


And the world view of everyone to the left of Patrick Buchanan is bat shit crazy and delusional.

 

[Correll]

Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.

Did your nose grow when you posted that , pinnochio?

Clear, concise, funny and oh so true ^^^

Said another lib that felt a need to spout off, but can't refute my point(s) with any actual evidence or reasoned argument.

 

[Correll]

Why, yes it is! (Wink wink)

More deflection. As per the op, eventually you will get around to the Atwater interview and magic "code words".

It is bullshit supporting a massive lie. It is the nation's biggest Conspiracy Theory, so well pushed, that it has become the Conventional Wisdom, accepted as the Truth, even though there is no evidence to support it.

That's funny. It's not like the Southern Democrats gave up their power in 64, or that the Republicans in the South didn't have to work hard to act like the old Dixiecrats to win control. Massive conspiracy? Nope, just politics. Taking over the southern states sounds like a worthy political objective. All politics is local. Their candidates played to the local voters and gathered their base. They out organized the Democrats at the local levels. And it worked. They should be proud of what they accomplished in a generation.

The Southern Strategy Conspiracy Theory is that they pandered to racists, to do that.


Except the republicans did no such thing.

If you think that the republicans did it by "out organizing" the dems, ,then you agree with me, ,that the SSCT is not true.

So state so clearly and we can sing Kum Bia Yah, together.

LOL, a very weak piece of sophistry ^^^.

Southern Strategy

On August 14, 1970, Richard Nixon treated New Orleans, a city keen on parades, to a campaign-style motorcade. With Nixon standing and waving through the sunroof, his limousine moved slowly down wide…

www.southerncultures.org

We all saw that you failed to back up the SSCT with anything other that, ironically, sophistic wordplay.



What polices did the GOP use to "appeal to wacists"?


Put up or shut up, lefty.


And if you say, "code words" I will laugh at you.

 

[Correll]

Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.

Did your nose grow when you posted that , pinnochio?

The Theory is that the republicans have been pandering to the racist whites, since the dems flipped on segregation back in the 60s.


Your side always says that.


If challenged, you normally get very evasive, but it grilled you finally can be forced to admit that all you have to support your vile accusations,


if one interview, years after the fact with lee atwater, and the smoke and mirrors of "dog whistles".


It is utter bullshit. You've got nothing.

Wow, another effort to rewrite history. Truman took the first step by integrating our Armed Forces; The Warren Court integrated public Schools; IKE protected black children in Little Rock, LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act and the voting Rights Act and the Southern Democrats opposed all of them beginning with Strom Thurman, Gov's Wallace and Maddox; subsequently the South turned Red during the Nixon Administration and then came trumpism. The Right packed the Supreme Court, which watered down the voting rights act, opposed AA and consent decrees, labor unions and R v. W.

Civil Rights is no where in the Republican Platform and has not been sense their Platform in 1956.

The Southern Dems did oppose it. And lose. And moved on, long ago.


Stop living in the past.

You lefties are the ones lying. Back up your shit, or admit that you cannot.

 

[Correll]

Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.

It's not a conspiracy theory

Lee Atwater was taped explaining it in great and vulgar detail

Atwater was the Karl Rove of his era, except more influential. He explained the game theory behind it and everything.



The Libertarian Party spawned out of this idea. Ron Paul wants a pre reconstruction america. Not to be racist but so he can have his own little theocracy in east texas. But another effect of that would allow segregation. Which is why he's gotten in trouble for publishing white supremacist crap. They're in the same political movement, states rights = southern strategy bread and butter.

NAP libertarians are not what you get in the Libertarian party for the most part.

If you were serious, you would have posted a transcript.

One interview over twenty years after the fact, is the best you have.


And it boils down to "dog whistles", which is nonsense.


You don't flip over a dozen states, for generations, with empty symbolic rhetoric.


This Conspiracy Theory is utter nonsense.

 

[Juicin]

Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.

It's not a conspiracy theory

Lee Atwater was taped explaining it in great and vulgar detail

Atwater was the Karl Rove of his era, except more influential. He explained the game theory behind it and everything.



The Libertarian Party spawned out of this idea. Ron Paul wants a pre reconstruction america. Not to be racist but so he can have his own little theocracy in east texas. But another effect of that would allow segregation. Which is why he's gotten in trouble for publishing white supremacist crap. They're in the same political movement, states rights = southern strategy bread and butter.

NAP libertarians are not what you get in the Libertarian party for the most part.

If you were serious, you would have posted a transcript.

One interview over twenty years after the fact, is the best you have.


And it boils down to "dog whistles", which is nonsense.


You don't flip over a dozen states, for generations, with empty symbolic rhetoric.


This Conspiracy Theory is utter nonsense.

Why woudl the transcript have weight? It's an audio recording

You'd just ask me to source the transcript. What an absurd complaint

He ran the party. He spelled it out. That was the message

I could post the transcript now, but why would I bother? What a joke thread

Took 3 seconds of google search to just crush you.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.

It's not a conspiracy theory

Lee Atwater was taped explaining it in great and vulgar detail

Atwater was the Karl Rove of his era, except more influential. He explained the game theory behind it and everything.



The Libertarian Party spawned out of this idea. Ron Paul wants a pre reconstruction america. Not to be racist but so he can have his own little theocracy in east texas. But another effect of that would allow segregation. Which is why he's gotten in trouble for publishing white supremacist crap. They're in the same political movement, states rights = southern strategy bread and butter.

NAP libertarians are not what you get in the Libertarian party for the most part.

If you were serious, you would have posted a transcript.

One interview over twenty years after the fact, is the best you have.


And it boils down to "dog whistles", which is nonsense.


You don't flip over a dozen states, for generations, with empty symbolic rhetoric.


This Conspiracy Theory is utter nonsense.

Yawn ... I posted a very clear article on Nixon and the Southern Strategy, clearly you didn't read it. Of course if you did and read how Nixon's strategy was relevant to Trump's campaign, you likely wouldn't admit to it.

 

[Correll]

Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.

Did your nose grow when you posted that , pinnochio?

The Theory is that the republicans have been pandering to the racist whites, since the dems flipped on segregation back in the 60s.


Your side always says that.


If challenged, you normally get very evasive, but it grilled you finally can be forced to admit that all you have to support your vile accusations,


if one interview, years after the fact with lee atwater, and the smoke and mirrors of "dog whistles".


It is utter bullshit. You've got nothing.

A higher percentage of Republicans voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act than Democrats. Both a larger number of Democrats voted for it and against it because Democrats had a significant majority in Congress in the time. However, Republicans voted for it by a higher percentage.

80% of Republicans in the House and 82% in the Senate voted for it.
69% of Democrats in the House and 63% in the Senate voted for it.

1964 Congress:
Senate: 68 Democrats and 32 Republicans
House: 253 Democrats and 177 Republicans

Original Housed version:

• Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
• Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)

Cloture in the Senate:

• Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
• Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

The Senate version:

• Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
• Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:

• Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
• Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)

A telling break down is between the Southern delegation and the Northern one.

The House of Representatives:[26]

• Northern: 281–32 (90–10%)
• Southern: 8–94 (8–92%)

The Senate:[26]

• Northern: 72–6 (92–8%)
• Southern: 1–21 (5–95%) (Ralph Yarborough of Texas was the only southerner to vote in favor in the Senate)

By party and region[edit]
The House of Representatives:[26]

• Southern Democrats: 8–87 (7–93%) (four Representatives from Texas, two from Tennessee, Claude Pepper of Florida and Charles L. Weltner of Georgia voted in favor)
• Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
• Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
• Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)

The Senate:[26]

• Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
• Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
• Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
• Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)

Overall, Republicans still voted for it in a higher percentage and it's only when you start selectively manipulating the statistics in a specific manner that you can paint a different picture.

So, 95% of Southern Democrats voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Why would this make racist Democrats suddenly leave the party? Did all the big government, high tax Democrats become small government, low tax, fiscally conservative Republicans and vice versa as both sides completely switched teams over one single issue?

I don't really care about the specific breakdown by region and party. It was in Wiki.

The point is the North mostly vote for it regardless of party, and the South mostly voted against it regardless of party.

Both parties voted for it, by strong majorities.

The actual racists, at least the white ones, were marginalized in national politics with the dems flipping on the issue and joining the republicans in supporting equality for blacks.


The pretense that one of the major parties has been secretly working against it's stated platforms of the last 50 years, and communicating by secret code with tens of millions of racists voters, that they are racist like them, even though they can't yet give them the racist policies that the racists want, but hey we still want you to vote for us, because...


Well, the SSCT doesn't say why. Some how, racist are so racist that just coded rhetoric is enough to keep them happy, for generations.


lol!!!

 

[Juicin]

Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.

Did your nose grow when you posted that , pinnochio?

The Theory is that the republicans have been pandering to the racist whites, since the dems flipped on segregation back in the 60s.


Your side always says that.


If challenged, you normally get very evasive, but it grilled you finally can be forced to admit that all you have to support your vile accusations,


if one interview, years after the fact with lee atwater, and the smoke and mirrors of "dog whistles".


It is utter bullshit. You've got nothing.

A higher percentage of Republicans voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act than Democrats. Both a larger number of Democrats voted for it and against it because Democrats had a significant majority in Congress in the time. However, Republicans voted for it by a higher percentage.

80% of Republicans in the House and 82% in the Senate voted for it.
69% of Democrats in the House and 63% in the Senate voted for it.

1964 Congress:
Senate: 68 Democrats and 32 Republicans
House: 253 Democrats and 177 Republicans

Original Housed version:

• Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
• Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)

Cloture in the Senate:

• Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
• Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

The Senate version:

• Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
• Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:

• Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
• Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)

A telling break down is between the Southern delegation and the Northern one.

The House of Representatives:[26]

• Northern: 281–32 (90–10%)
• Southern: 8–94 (8–92%)

The Senate:[26]

• Northern: 72–6 (92–8%)
• Southern: 1–21 (5–95%) (Ralph Yarborough of Texas was the only southerner to vote in favor in the Senate)

By party and region[edit]
The House of Representatives:[26]

• Southern Democrats: 8–87 (7–93%) (four Representatives from Texas, two from Tennessee, Claude Pepper of Florida and Charles L. Weltner of Georgia voted in favor)
• Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
• Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
• Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)

The Senate:[26]

• Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
• Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
• Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
• Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)

Overall, Republicans still voted for it in a higher percentage and it's only when you start selectively manipulating the statistics in a specific manner that you can paint a different picture.

So, 95% of Southern Democrats voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Why would this make racist Democrats suddenly leave the party? Did all the big government, high tax Democrats become small government, low tax, fiscally conservative Republicans and vice versa as both sides completely switched teams over one single issue?

I don't really care about the specific breakdown by region and party. It was in Wiki.

The point is the North mostly vote for it regardless of party, and the South mostly voted against it regardless of party.

Both parties voted for it, by strong majorities.

The actual racists, at least the white ones, were marginalized in national politics with the dems flipping on the issue and joining the republicans in supporting equality for blacks.


The pretense that one of the major parties has been secretly working against it's stated platforms of the last 50 years, and communicating by secret code with tens of millions of racists voters, that they are racist like them, even though they can't yet give them the racist policies that the racists want, but hey we still want you to vote for us, because...


Well, the SSCT doesn't say why. Some how, racist are so racist that just coded rhetoric is enough to keep them happy, for generations.


lol!!!

Who was voting makes no fucking difference

Only the people at teh top of the party

THat was the strategy. As to whether or not it worked no one knows.

Whoooooosh

WHy you think the voters matter I have no idea. They don't set strategy. Political operatives like Atwater do

You fucking dolt

Joe the Plumber doesn't get a say on the RNC platform

 

[Correll]

Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.

It's not a conspiracy theory

Lee Atwater was taped explaining it in great and vulgar detail

Atwater was the Karl Rove of his era, except more influential. He explained the game theory behind it and everything.



The Libertarian Party spawned out of this idea. Ron Paul wants a pre reconstruction america. Not to be racist but so he can have his own little theocracy in east texas. But another effect of that would allow segregation. Which is why he's gotten in trouble for publishing white supremacist crap. They're in the same political movement, states rights = southern strategy bread and butter.

NAP libertarians are not what you get in the Libertarian party for the most part.

If you were serious, you would have posted a transcript.

One interview over twenty years after the fact, is the best you have.


And it boils down to "dog whistles", which is nonsense.


You don't flip over a dozen states, for generations, with empty symbolic rhetoric.


This Conspiracy Theory is utter nonsense.

Why woudl the transcript have weight? It's an audio recording

You'd just ask me to source the transcript. What an absurd complaint

He ran the party. He spelled it out. That was the message

I could post the transcript now, but why would I bother? What a joke thread

Took 3 seconds of google search to just crush you.

Because a transcript we can discuss whatever points he makes, clearly.


Watch what happens.


Everything he says, boils down to "code words" and "Dog whistles" which is bullshit to explain flipping a dozen states for generations.


Now you, will claim that he said something more, but you will be vague about what it was.


And since iti s a vid clip, it fades into confusion and he said she said shit.


Which, is what you want, because you know it is all bullshit.

 

[Correll]

Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.

It's not a conspiracy theory

Lee Atwater was taped explaining it in great and vulgar detail

Atwater was the Karl Rove of his era, except more influential. He explained the game theory behind it and everything.



The Libertarian Party spawned out of this idea. Ron Paul wants a pre reconstruction america. Not to be racist but so he can have his own little theocracy in east texas. But another effect of that would allow segregation. Which is why he's gotten in trouble for publishing white supremacist crap. They're in the same political movement, states rights = southern strategy bread and butter.

NAP libertarians are not what you get in the Libertarian party for the most part.

If you were serious, you would have posted a transcript.

One interview over twenty years after the fact, is the best you have.


And it boils down to "dog whistles", which is nonsense.


You don't flip over a dozen states, for generations, with empty symbolic rhetoric.


This Conspiracy Theory is utter nonsense.

Yawn ... I posted a very clear article on Nixon and the Southern Strategy, clearly you didn't read it. Of course if you did and read how Nixon's strategy was relevant to Trump's campaign, you likely wouldn't admit to it.

I've read plenty on your Conspiracy Theory and it falls apart because none of you can explain HOW NIXON SUPPOSEDLY "APPEALED TO RACISTS".


A link, with a dozen pages, full of blah, blah, blah, racism, and blah, blah, blah, code words, is shit.