1964: Southern Racist democrat vs white Conservatives

[Failzero]

The was no grand kleagle and since Byrd denounced the KKK and fought for civil rights, you can just stop asking dumb --- questions.

His title was Grand Kleagle and he was a dues paying member in good standing in the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan for years .

 

[IM2]

His title was Grand Kleagle and he was a dues paying member in good standing in the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan for years .

He left the KKK, demounced it and fought for civil rights for 50-60 years. So STHU about the 2 years he was in the KKK.

 

[my2¢]

Many blacks remained within the Party of Lincoln until they nominated Barry Goldwater as their candidate. The one that immediately comes to my mind is Jackie Robinson. Goldwater was a strict state rights advocate who thought the Civil Rights Act was unconstitutional and in the 1964 election won only his home state of Arizona and another 5 states all located in the deep south: South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana.

Martin Luther King Jr. on Barry Goldwater:
“While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulates a philosophy which gives aid and comfort to the racists”

Malcom X viewed the choice as a no-win situation but thought of Barry Goldwater as a straight shooting wolf while LBJ was a sly fox:
"Since these are the choices, the black man in America, I think, only needs to pick which one he chooses to be eaten by, because both will eat him, they would at least know they were fighting an honestly growling wolf, rather than a fox who could have them in his stomach and have digested them before they even knew what is happening."

 

[surada]

Few people on the Left seem to know that in 1964 there were two dramatically different candidates running for President

In 1964, LBJ and Barry Goldwater ran for President; one was a white Conservative, the other a racist, Southern democrat peckerwood who called every one a ******. When he appointed Thurgood Marshall to SCOTUS, he said 'Son, when I appoint a ****** to the bench, I want everybody to know he's a ******.'

Who was the white Conservative?

Who was the racist, Southern peckerwood democrat who called every black guy a ******?

Do you remember 1964? I do. We were members of the young Republicans in South Carolina and we were prejudiced.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Do you remember 1964? I do. We were members of the young Republicans in South Carolina and we were prejudiced.

Sureeeeeeeeeeeee and I was a young democrat and was recruited by the local KKK

 

[surada]

The KKK still exists.

I've only seen the KKK once . They came to a small town in South Carolina from Idaho to march. It was so cool. Every single person on the street stopped and turned their backs on them.

 

[surada]

Sureeeeeeeeeeeee and I was a young democrat and was recruited by the local KKK

You think everyone is a liar like Trump?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You think everyone is a liar like Trump?

What?? You don’t believe I was a young democrat and recruited by the local KKK?

 

[whitehall]

The liberal media writes the history books. FDR appointed a (former) member of the KKK, Hugo Black, to the Supreme Court and the media ignored it. The longest serving democrat senator, Robert Byrd, was a KKK recruiter. The KKK was the political muscle that got democrats elected in the South for half a century.

 

[surada]

What?? You don’t believe I was a young democrat and recruited by the local KKK?

The Dixiecrats became Republicans in the 1960s.

 

[surada]

The liberal media writes the history books. FDR appointed a (former) member of the KKK, Hugo Black, to the Supreme Court and the media ignored it. The longest serving democrat senator, Robert Byrd, was a KKK recruiter. The KKK was the political muscle that got democrats elected in the South for half a century.

Now they have to bus the Klan in from Idaho.

 

[surada]

Them Jooos tried to sink the USS Liberty ?

They sure did. Don't you remember?

 

[surada]

Sureeeeeeeeeeeee and I was a young democrat and was recruited by the local KKK

I was a Republican until right before we invaded Iraq. That was the dumbest foreign policy blunder in 50 years.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I was a Republican until right before we invaded Iraq. That was the dumbest foreign policy blunder in 50 years.

OMG! I was a democrat until LBJ Fucked over the Black male head of household

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I was a Republican until right before we invaded Iraq. That was the dumbest foreign policy blunder in 50 years.

Claim: "Immediately, the moment it started, I came out against the [Iraq] war at that moment."
Claimed by: Joe Biden
Fact check by FactCheck.org: False

 

[DudleySmith]

lol more rubbish about LBJ. The GOP shills are as desperate as the Democrats for votes.

 

[DudleySmith]

The Dixiecrats became Republicans in the 1960s.

That's because many northern and liberal states exempted themselves from many of the CRA provisions as well as the Voting Rights Act of 1965; neither would have passed if it had been enforced equally in all 50 states. It was Nixon who pushed to make the laws permanent and applicable to all 50 states when they came up for sunset reviews in 1971. Dixiecrats were a result of the selective enforcement of the laws in southern states while giving northern states and California a pass. Many states outside the South got to keep their literacy tests and the like until after 1971.

It was northern states that had the race riots after 1971 and still do. Massachusetts liberals were throwing bricks at school busses when the laws began to be equally applied there like they were in the South.

About Section 5 Of The Voting Rights Act

www.justice.gov

The requirement was enacted in 1965 as temporary legislation, to expire in five years, and applicable only to certain states. The specially covered jurisdictions were identified in Section 4 by a formula. The first element in the formula was that the state or political subdivision of the state maintained on November 1, 1964, a "test or device," restricting the opportunity to register and vote. The second element of the formula would be satisfied if the Director of the Census determined that less than 50 percent of persons of voting age were registered to vote on November 1, 1964, or that less than 50 percent of persons of voting age voted in the presidential election of November 1964. Application of this formula resulted in the following states becoming, in their entirety, "covered jurisdictions": Alabama, Alaska, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, and Virginia, In addition, certain political subdivisions (usually counties) in four other states (Arizona, Hawaii, Idaho, and North Carolina were covered. It also provided a procedure to terminate this coverage.


Under Section 5, any change with respect to voting in a covered jurisdiction -- or any political subunit within it -- cannot legally be enforced unless and until the jurisdiction first obtains the requisite determination by the United States District Court for the District of Columbia or makes a submission to the Attorney General. This requires proof that the proposed voting change does not deny or abridge the right to vote on account of race, color, or membership in a language minority group. If the jurisdiction is unable to prove the absence of such discrimination, the District Court denies the requested judgment, or in the case of administrative submissions, the Attorney General objects to the change, and it remains legally unenforceable.


In 1970, Congress recognized the continuing need for the special provisions of the Voting Rights Act, which were due to expire that year, and renewed them for another five years. It also adopted an additional coverage formula, identical to the original formula except that it referenced November 1968 as the date to determine if there was a test or device, levels of voter registration, and electoral participation. This additional formula resulted in the partial coverage of ten states.


In 1975, the special provisions of the Voting Rights Act were extended for another seven years, and were broadened to address voting discrimination against members of "language minority groups." An additional coverage formula was enacted, based on the presence of tests or devices and levels of voter registration and participation as of November 1972. In addition, the 1965 definition of "test or device" was expanded to include the practice of providing election information, including ballots, only in English in states or political subdivisions where members of a single language minority constituted more than five percent of the citizens of voting age. This third formula had the effect of covering Alaska, Arizona, and Texas in their entirety, and parts of California, Florida, Michigan, New York, North Carolina, and South Dakota.

For a much more detailed examination of the Civil Rights Era see Hugh Davis Graham's excellent history The Civil Rights Era.

Book review: The Civil Rights Era: Origins and Development of National Policy. By Hugh Davis Graham. ​

conservancy.umn.edu




AS the review states, he does bash Nixon more than the unions and Democrats, but doesn't outright lie about him. The book also has an excellent essay on 'continuatarianism' as a historical myth.

 

[surada]

Claim: "Immediately, the moment it started, I came out against the [Iraq] war at that moment."
Claimed by: Joe Biden
Fact check by FactCheck.org: False

Trump says the same thing.

 

[AZrailwhale]

I was a Republican until right before we invaded Iraq. That was the dumbest foreign policy blunder in 50 years.

Invading Iraq wasn’t a blunder, trying to install a democracy was. We should have gone in destroyed their army, dethroned Saddam, then left.

 

[IM2]

OMG! I was a democrat until LBJ Fucked over the Black male head of household

LBJ didn't do that.