Southern Strategy is a conspiracy theory.

Southern strategy - Wikipedia

In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans. As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party.


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In American politics, the “southern strategy” refers to efforts by the Republican Party and its candidates to win presidential elections since 1964 by appealing to conservative whites (especially white southerners) disaffected with the Democratic Party by its strong embrace of civil rights laws in the 1960s and its racially egalitarian policies since.
It's a Democrat myth. Please post an example of a politician using the "Southern strategy."
 
Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.
Did your nose grow when you posted that , pinnochio?


The Theory is that the republicans have been pandering to the racist whites, since the dems flipped on segregation back in the 60s.


Your side always says that.


If challenged, you normally get very evasive, but it grilled you finally can be forced to admit that all you have to support your vile accusations,


if one interview, years after the fact with lee atwater, and the smoke and mirrors of "dog whistles".


It is utter bullshit. You've got nothing.

A higher percentage of Republicans voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act than Democrats. Both a larger number of Democrats voted for it and against it because Democrats had a significant majority in Congress in the time. However, Republicans voted for it by a higher percentage.

80% of Republicans in the House and 82% in the Senate voted for it.
69% of Democrats in the House and 63% in the Senate voted for it.

1964 Congress:
Senate: 68 Democrats and 32 Republicans
House: 253 Democrats and 177 Republicans

Original Housed version:
  • Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
  • Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)
Cloture in the Senate:
  • Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
  • Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version:
  • Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
  • Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:
  • Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
  • Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)

A telling break down is between the Southern delegation and the Northern one.

The House of Representatives:[26]
  • Northern: 281–32 (90–10%)
  • Southern: 8–94 (8–92%)
The Senate:[26]
  • Northern: 72–6 (92–8%)
  • Southern: 1–21 (5–95%) (Ralph Yarborough of Texas was the only southerner to vote in favor in the Senate)
By party and region[edit]
The House of Representatives:[26]
  • Southern Democrats: 8–87 (7–93%) (four Representatives from Texas, two from Tennessee, Claude Pepper of Florida and Charles L. Weltner of Georgia voted in favor)
  • Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
  • Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
  • Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)
The Senate:[26]
"Telling breakdown?" Where's the evidence of a politician saying something that supports this "Southern strategy?"
 
Southern strategy - Wikipedia

In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans. As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party.


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In American politics, the “southern strategy” refers to efforts by the Republican Party and its candidates to win presidential elections since 1964 by appealing to conservative whites (especially white southerners) disaffected with the Democratic Party by its strong embrace of civil rights laws in the 1960s and its racially egalitarian policies since.

Democrats did slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation, lynching, there was no need for another party to appeal to racism, you had it well covered. Still do today. Try being black and leaving the Democrat party. You'll learn how free you are. Or as Biden said, you ain't black
Had nothing to do with needing another racist party, had to do with wanting to win elections and republicans needing all those conservative southern Democrats changing parties, to do it.
 
"Telling breakdown?"

The North defeated the South again a hundred years later. The people felt betrayed by the Northern Democrats so they seats were easy prey to the Republican wordsmiths after the Dixiecrats retired.
 
"Telling breakdown?"

The North defeated the South again a hundred years later. The people felt betrayed by the Northern Democrats so they seats were easy prey to the Republican wordsmiths after the Dixiecrats retired.


The voting bloc the dems had built on racism fell. So the southern votes were open to appeal on other issues.

It was a good thing.

Lee Atwater talked about it, in that interview that you lefties all cite, but never actually read.
 
So the southern votes were open to appeal on other issues.

Not really, most of the incumbents in the South who voted against Civil Rights continued to be re-elected. The Repbublicans wisely took the old Dixiecrats talking points and the strategy won the South on the old issues. The next generation of southern voters is open to appeal on other issues however.
 
So the southern votes were open to appeal on other issues.

Not really, most of the incumbents in the South who voted against Civil Rights continued to be re-elected. The Repbublicans wisely took the old Dixiecrats talking points and the strategy won the South on the old issues. The next generation of southern voters is open to appeal on other issues however.


The DIxicrats were primary about segregation. The republicans never gave them anything, never promised them anything.

YOu claim is just not true.

THe Southern Strategy, as held by you lefties, is a Conspiracy Theory and a debunked one, one that only survives because of a a massive campaign of Proof by Assertion Logical Fallacy.
 
Southern strategy - Wikipedia

In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans. As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party.


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In American politics, the “southern strategy” refers to efforts by the Republican Party and its candidates to win presidential elections since 1964 by appealing to conservative whites (especially white southerners) disaffected with the Democratic Party by its strong embrace of civil rights laws in the 1960s and its racially egalitarian policies since.

Democrats did slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation, lynching, there was no need for another party to appeal to racism, you had it well covered. Still do today. Try being black and leaving the Democrat party. You'll learn how free you are. Or as Biden said, you ain't black
Had nothing to do with needing another racist party, had to do with wanting to win elections and republicans needing all those conservative southern Democrats changing parties, to do it.

Another government school graduate, huh? You didn't address my point at all. Democrats had no reason to leave the Democrat party, you're the racist party. Always were. Segregation, slavery, Jim Crow, lynching, the KKK. And Joe you aint black is a raging racist. Why would a racist leave the Democrat party? It's like a fish leaving the ocean
 
Southern strategy - Wikipedia

In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans. As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party.


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In American politics, the “southern strategy” refers to efforts by the Republican Party and its candidates to win presidential elections since 1964 by appealing to conservative whites (especially white southerners) disaffected with the Democratic Party by its strong embrace of civil rights laws in the 1960s and its racially egalitarian policies since.

Democrats did slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation, lynching, there was no need for another party to appeal to racism, you had it well covered. Still do today. Try being black and leaving the Democrat party. You'll learn how free you are. Or as Biden said, you ain't black
Had nothing to do with needing another racist party, had to do with wanting to win elections and republicans needing all those conservative southern Democrats changing parties, to do it.
"Telling breakdown?"

The North defeated the South again a hundred years later. The people felt betrayed by the Northern Democrats so they seats were easy prey to the Republican wordsmiths after the Dixiecrats retired.


The voting bloc the dems had built on racism fell. So the southern votes were open to appeal on other issues.

It was a good thing.

Lee Atwater talked about it, in that interview that you lefties all cite, but never actually read.


I love the way Leftists try and portray this. They are so phony-e-baloney.

How about this------------------>Black Americans voted for Democrats since FDR; because FDR gave them a measly check during the great depression. That is when Black Americans turned to Democrats, not before.

So why did the South turn Republican?

How about I help you out a little Leftists, and lets see if you can follow along------------->

1. Did or did not Black Americans vote massively for Democrats, with the percentage rising from the time of FDR?

ANSWER----------->Yes, absolutely.

2. So why then did the South turn red? Was it some racist dog whistle?

ANSWER-----------> LOL, HELL NO! What it really was came to Black Americans fleeing the South where there was no jobs worth a damn, and migrating to Detroit, Chicago, and cities with a large industrial base. They wanted a JOB worth a damn, preferably a union job, and leaving the racist South run by racist Democrats who they voted for, was just a plum in their cap. With those votes leaving en mass, it is any wonder that the Republicans then won.

Look at the migration curve of Black America in the middle 60s to middle 70s. And remember, since the time of FDR handing out a pittance of a check to them to feed their family during the depression, they were already solidly Democrat. Also remember, the poll tax?!?!?!?! Who created that tax oh great Lefties! Back in those days, people KNEW who you voted for, didn't they Leftists.

There is no doubt, Black Americans have been screwed over while they were on the Southern Democrats cotton plantations, and when the Republicans fought to free them and succeeded, the Southern Democrats devised new ways to screw them. Ever hear of sharecropping? Well, that was a NEW way to keep Black labor cheap as hell.

And what happened when Southern Blacks moved North and joined labor unions, making more money in a week then they could in the South in a month or more?

While they learned what all union members know---------------->the price of your job is monthly dues, and you must vote DEMORAT! Unions are like the Borg on Star Trek, you either vote their way, give union dues collected to the Democrats, or you lose your job. I know this is all true, I worked for the UAW for over 30 years!

Imagine if you will the Borg mindset of a union for a minute if you will--------------->we are going to put CAFE standards on your products, we are going to try and eliminate fossil fuels, we want to tax the hell out fuel so less people will drive or buy new cars, and when all of this started the Japanese are going to clean your clock and put 40% of you on the street because they have been building little cars for years. But don't you worry, Republicans are meanies, so vote for us, the great Democrats so we can do this to you! And until Reagan, and then Trump came along, THEY DID!

By the way Lefties, here is a clue for you---------------------->The union hierarchy is solidly Democrat. But, blue collar workers have moved significantly towards the GOP. They seen what you did and have had enough!
 
Southern strategy - Wikipedia

In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans. As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party.


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In American politics, the “southern strategy” refers to efforts by the Republican Party and its candidates to win presidential elections since 1964 by appealing to conservative whites (especially white southerners) disaffected with the Democratic Party by its strong embrace of civil rights laws in the 1960s and its racially egalitarian policies since.

Democrats did slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation, lynching, there was no need for another party to appeal to racism, you had it well covered. Still do today. Try being black and leaving the Democrat party. You'll learn how free you are. Or as Biden said, you ain't black
Had nothing to do with needing another racist party, had to do with wanting to win elections and republicans needing all those conservative southern Democrats changing parties, to do it.
"Telling breakdown?"

The North defeated the South again a hundred years later. The people felt betrayed by the Northern Democrats so they seats were easy prey to the Republican wordsmiths after the Dixiecrats retired.


The voting bloc the dems had built on racism fell. So the southern votes were open to appeal on other issues.

It was a good thing.

Lee Atwater talked about it, in that interview that you lefties all cite, but never actually read.


I love the way Leftists try and portray this. They are so phony-e-baloney.

How about this------------------>Black Americans voted for Democrats since FDR; because FDR gave them a measly check during the great depression. That is when Black Americans turned to Democrats, not before.

So why did the South turn Republican?

How about I help you out a little Leftists, and lets see if you can follow along------------->

1. Did or did not Black Americans vote massively for Democrats, with the percentage rising from the time of FDR?

ANSWER----------->Yes, absolutely.

2. So why then did the South turn red? Was it some racist dog whistle?

ANSWER-----------> LOL, HELL NO! What it really was came to Black Americans fleeing the South where there was no jobs worth a damn, and migrating to Detroit, Chicago, and cities with a large industrial base. They wanted a JOB worth a damn, preferably a union job, and leaving the racist South run by racist Democrats who they voted for, was just a plum in their cap. With those votes leaving en mass, it is any wonder that the Republicans then won.

Look at the migration curve of Black America in the middle 60s to middle 70s. And remember, since the time of FDR handing out a pittance of a check to them to feed their family during the depression, they were already solidly Democrat. Also remember, the poll tax?!?!?!?! Who created that tax oh great Lefties! Back in those days, people KNEW who you voted for, didn't they Leftists.

There is no doubt, Black Americans have been screwed over while they were on the Southern Democrats cotton plantations, and when the Republicans fought to free them and succeeded, the Southern Democrats devised new ways to screw them. Ever hear of sharecropping? Well, that was a NEW way to keep Black labor cheap as hell.

And what happened when Southern Blacks moved North and joined labor unions, making more money in a week then they could in the South in a month or more?

While they learned what all union members know---------------->the price of your job is monthly dues, and you must vote DEMORAT! Unions are like the Borg on Star Trek, you either vote their way, give union dues collected to the Democrats, or you lose your job. I know this is all true, I worked for the UAW for over 30 years!

Imagine if you will the Borg mindset of a union for a minute if you will--------------->we are going to put CAFE standards on your products, we are going to try and eliminate fossil fuels, we want to tax the hell out fuel so less people will drive or buy new cars, and when all of this started the Japanese are going to clean your clock and put 40% of you on the street because they have been building little cars for years. But don't you worry, Republicans are meanies, so vote for us, the great Democrats so we can do this to you! And until Reagan, and then Trump came along, THEY DID!

By the way Lefties, here is a clue for you---------------------->The union hierarchy is solidly Democrat. But, blue collar workers have moved significantly towards the GOP. They seen what you did and have had enough!
Some black people moved north, but most did not.

The southern strategy, is precisely as the encyclopedia described it to be, that I gave a link to above...

You are trying to rewrite history, decades later....
.
 
Southern strategy - Wikipedia

In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans. As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party.


............


In American politics, the “southern strategy” refers to efforts by the Republican Party and its candidates to win presidential elections since 1964 by appealing to conservative whites (especially white southerners) disaffected with the Democratic Party by its strong embrace of civil rights laws in the 1960s and its racially egalitarian policies since.

Democrats did slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation, lynching, there was no need for another party to appeal to racism, you had it well covered. Still do today. Try being black and leaving the Democrat party. You'll learn how free you are. Or as Biden said, you ain't black
Had nothing to do with needing another racist party, had to do with wanting to win elections and republicans needing all those conservative southern Democrats changing parties, to do it.
"Telling breakdown?"

The North defeated the South again a hundred years later. The people felt betrayed by the Northern Democrats so they seats were easy prey to the Republican wordsmiths after the Dixiecrats retired.


The voting bloc the dems had built on racism fell. So the southern votes were open to appeal on other issues.

It was a good thing.

Lee Atwater talked about it, in that interview that you lefties all cite, but never actually read.


I love the way Leftists try and portray this. They are so phony-e-baloney.

How about this------------------>Black Americans voted for Democrats since FDR; because FDR gave them a measly check during the great depression. That is when Black Americans turned to Democrats, not before.

So why did the South turn Republican?

How about I help you out a little Leftists, and lets see if you can follow along------------->

1. Did or did not Black Americans vote massively for Democrats, with the percentage rising from the time of FDR?

ANSWER----------->Yes, absolutely.

2. So why then did the South turn red? Was it some racist dog whistle?

ANSWER-----------> LOL, HELL NO! What it really was came to Black Americans fleeing the South where there was no jobs worth a damn, and migrating to Detroit, Chicago, and cities with a large industrial base. They wanted a JOB worth a damn, preferably a union job, and leaving the racist South run by racist Democrats who they voted for, was just a plum in their cap. With those votes leaving en mass, it is any wonder that the Republicans then won.

Look at the migration curve of Black America in the middle 60s to middle 70s. And remember, since the time of FDR handing out a pittance of a check to them to feed their family during the depression, they were already solidly Democrat. Also remember, the poll tax?!?!?!?! Who created that tax oh great Lefties! Back in those days, people KNEW who you voted for, didn't they Leftists.

There is no doubt, Black Americans have been screwed over while they were on the Southern Democrats cotton plantations, and when the Republicans fought to free them and succeeded, the Southern Democrats devised new ways to screw them. Ever hear of sharecropping? Well, that was a NEW way to keep Black labor cheap as hell.

And what happened when Southern Blacks moved North and joined labor unions, making more money in a week then they could in the South in a month or more?

While they learned what all union members know---------------->the price of your job is monthly dues, and you must vote DEMORAT! Unions are like the Borg on Star Trek, you either vote their way, give union dues collected to the Democrats, or you lose your job. I know this is all true, I worked for the UAW for over 30 years!

Imagine if you will the Borg mindset of a union for a minute if you will--------------->we are going to put CAFE standards on your products, we are going to try and eliminate fossil fuels, we want to tax the hell out fuel so less people will drive or buy new cars, and when all of this started the Japanese are going to clean your clock and put 40% of you on the street because they have been building little cars for years. But don't you worry, Republicans are meanies, so vote for us, the great Democrats so we can do this to you! And until Reagan, and then Trump came along, THEY DID!

By the way Lefties, here is a clue for you---------------------->The union hierarchy is solidly Democrat. But, blue collar workers have moved significantly towards the GOP. They seen what you did and have had enough!
Some black people moved north, but most did not.

The southern strategy, is precisely as the encyclopedia described it to be, that I gave a link to above...

You are trying to rewrite history, decades later....
.

And yet more than 50 years later, you're still running the raging racist who constently makes racist statements. And the rest of you cheer him on.

The home of racism is where it always was for slavery, segregation, the KKK, Jim Crow, lynching and cross burning, the Democrat party.

Now you aint' black, you need an Indian accent, blacks aren't diverse, blacks are on the plantation. Racist cops are protected by blue governments and union contracts. There is no part of the Democrat history or the party today that isn't racist.

There's no way Republicans could have dented that. There was zero reason for racists to leave the racist party of America, the Democrat party. The only party who had slavery in your party's platform
 
Southern strategy - Wikipedia

In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans. As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party.


............


In American politics, the “southern strategy” refers to efforts by the Republican Party and its candidates to win presidential elections since 1964 by appealing to conservative whites (especially white southerners) disaffected with the Democratic Party by its strong embrace of civil rights laws in the 1960s and its racially egalitarian policies since.

Democrats did slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation, lynching, there was no need for another party to appeal to racism, you had it well covered. Still do today. Try being black and leaving the Democrat party. You'll learn how free you are. Or as Biden said, you ain't black
Had nothing to do with needing another racist party, had to do with wanting to win elections and republicans needing all those conservative southern Democrats changing parties, to do it.
"Telling breakdown?"

The North defeated the South again a hundred years later. The people felt betrayed by the Northern Democrats so they seats were easy prey to the Republican wordsmiths after the Dixiecrats retired.


The voting bloc the dems had built on racism fell. So the southern votes were open to appeal on other issues.

It was a good thing.

Lee Atwater talked about it, in that interview that you lefties all cite, but never actually read.


I love the way Leftists try and portray this. They are so phony-e-baloney.

How about this------------------>Black Americans voted for Democrats since FDR; because FDR gave them a measly check during the great depression. That is when Black Americans turned to Democrats, not before.

So why did the South turn Republican?

How about I help you out a little Leftists, and lets see if you can follow along------------->

1. Did or did not Black Americans vote massively for Democrats, with the percentage rising from the time of FDR?

ANSWER----------->Yes, absolutely.

2. So why then did the South turn red? Was it some racist dog whistle?

ANSWER-----------> LOL, HELL NO! What it really was came to Black Americans fleeing the South where there was no jobs worth a damn, and migrating to Detroit, Chicago, and cities with a large industrial base. They wanted a JOB worth a damn, preferably a union job, and leaving the racist South run by racist Democrats who they voted for, was just a plum in their cap. With those votes leaving en mass, it is any wonder that the Republicans then won.

Look at the migration curve of Black America in the middle 60s to middle 70s. And remember, since the time of FDR handing out a pittance of a check to them to feed their family during the depression, they were already solidly Democrat. Also remember, the poll tax?!?!?!?! Who created that tax oh great Lefties! Back in those days, people KNEW who you voted for, didn't they Leftists.

There is no doubt, Black Americans have been screwed over while they were on the Southern Democrats cotton plantations, and when the Republicans fought to free them and succeeded, the Southern Democrats devised new ways to screw them. Ever hear of sharecropping? Well, that was a NEW way to keep Black labor cheap as hell.

And what happened when Southern Blacks moved North and joined labor unions, making more money in a week then they could in the South in a month or more?

While they learned what all union members know---------------->the price of your job is monthly dues, and you must vote DEMORAT! Unions are like the Borg on Star Trek, you either vote their way, give union dues collected to the Democrats, or you lose your job. I know this is all true, I worked for the UAW for over 30 years!

Imagine if you will the Borg mindset of a union for a minute if you will--------------->we are going to put CAFE standards on your products, we are going to try and eliminate fossil fuels, we want to tax the hell out fuel so less people will drive or buy new cars, and when all of this started the Japanese are going to clean your clock and put 40% of you on the street because they have been building little cars for years. But don't you worry, Republicans are meanies, so vote for us, the great Democrats so we can do this to you! And until Reagan, and then Trump came along, THEY DID!

By the way Lefties, here is a clue for you---------------------->The union hierarchy is solidly Democrat. But, blue collar workers have moved significantly towards the GOP. They seen what you did and have had enough!
Some black people moved north, but most did not.

The southern strategy, is precisely as the encyclopedia described it to be, that I gave a link to above...

You are trying to rewrite history, decades later....
.


Except that when I call any of you lefties to back up the claim of "by appealing to racism against african americans"


All you can come up with to support that claim, the crux of the matter, is "secret magic code words".


It is a bullshit Conspiracy Theory, that you people can't back up with anything but vapor and bullshit.
 
Southern strategy - Wikipedia

In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans. As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party.


............


In American politics, the “southern strategy” refers to efforts by the Republican Party and its candidates to win presidential elections since 1964 by appealing to conservative whites (especially white southerners) disaffected with the Democratic Party by its strong embrace of civil rights laws in the 1960s and its racially egalitarian policies since.

Democrats did slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation, lynching, there was no need for another party to appeal to racism, you had it well covered. Still do today. Try being black and leaving the Democrat party. You'll learn how free you are. Or as Biden said, you ain't black
Had nothing to do with needing another racist party, had to do with wanting to win elections and republicans needing all those conservative southern Democrats changing parties, to do it.
"Telling breakdown?"

The North defeated the South again a hundred years later. The people felt betrayed by the Northern Democrats so they seats were easy prey to the Republican wordsmiths after the Dixiecrats retired.


The voting bloc the dems had built on racism fell. So the southern votes were open to appeal on other issues.

It was a good thing.

Lee Atwater talked about it, in that interview that you lefties all cite, but never actually read.


I love the way Leftists try and portray this. They are so phony-e-baloney.

How about this------------------>Black Americans voted for Democrats since FDR; because FDR gave them a measly check during the great depression. That is when Black Americans turned to Democrats, not before.

So why did the South turn Republican?

How about I help you out a little Leftists, and lets see if you can follow along------------->

1. Did or did not Black Americans vote massively for Democrats, with the percentage rising from the time of FDR?

ANSWER----------->Yes, absolutely.

2. So why then did the South turn red? Was it some racist dog whistle?

ANSWER-----------> LOL, HELL NO! What it really was came to Black Americans fleeing the South where there was no jobs worth a damn, and migrating to Detroit, Chicago, and cities with a large industrial base. They wanted a JOB worth a damn, preferably a union job, and leaving the racist South run by racist Democrats who they voted for, was just a plum in their cap. With those votes leaving en mass, it is any wonder that the Republicans then won.

Look at the migration curve of Black America in the middle 60s to middle 70s. And remember, since the time of FDR handing out a pittance of a check to them to feed their family during the depression, they were already solidly Democrat. Also remember, the poll tax?!?!?!?! Who created that tax oh great Lefties! Back in those days, people KNEW who you voted for, didn't they Leftists.

There is no doubt, Black Americans have been screwed over while they were on the Southern Democrats cotton plantations, and when the Republicans fought to free them and succeeded, the Southern Democrats devised new ways to screw them. Ever hear of sharecropping? Well, that was a NEW way to keep Black labor cheap as hell.

And what happened when Southern Blacks moved North and joined labor unions, making more money in a week then they could in the South in a month or more?

While they learned what all union members know---------------->the price of your job is monthly dues, and you must vote DEMORAT! Unions are like the Borg on Star Trek, you either vote their way, give union dues collected to the Democrats, or you lose your job. I know this is all true, I worked for the UAW for over 30 years!

Imagine if you will the Borg mindset of a union for a minute if you will--------------->we are going to put CAFE standards on your products, we are going to try and eliminate fossil fuels, we want to tax the hell out fuel so less people will drive or buy new cars, and when all of this started the Japanese are going to clean your clock and put 40% of you on the street because they have been building little cars for years. But don't you worry, Republicans are meanies, so vote for us, the great Democrats so we can do this to you! And until Reagan, and then Trump came along, THEY DID!

By the way Lefties, here is a clue for you---------------------->The union hierarchy is solidly Democrat. But, blue collar workers have moved significantly towards the GOP. They seen what you did and have had enough!
Some black people moved north, but most did not.

The southern strategy, is precisely as the encyclopedia described it to be, that I gave a link to above...

You are trying to rewrite history, decades later....
.


Except that when I call any of you lefties to back up the claim of "by appealing to racism against african americans"


All you can come up with to support that claim, the crux of the matter, is "secret magic code words".


It is a bullshit Conspiracy Theory, that you people can't back up with anything but vapor and bullshit.


No, they sent out magic decoder rings to white folks all throughout the South. Super secret words like Protect our Heritage, or Our way of life is under attack. 2nd Amendment solutions.....The whistles still work today!
 
Southern strategy - Wikipedia

In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans. As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party.


............


In American politics, the “southern strategy” refers to efforts by the Republican Party and its candidates to win presidential elections since 1964 by appealing to conservative whites (especially white southerners) disaffected with the Democratic Party by its strong embrace of civil rights laws in the 1960s and its racially egalitarian policies since.


And that is a lie.....as you guys have been shown over and over again......you can't turn it into the truth just by posting lies about it....

The actual article that created this lie........followed by actual facts about that lie...

See page 4 bottom of first column...


---------The detailed explanation of the big lie........
Nixon’s Southern Strategy: The Democrat-Lie Keeping Their Control Over the Black Community | Black Quill and Ink

Believe it or not, the entire myth was created by an unknown editor at the New York Times who didn’t do his job and read a story he was given to edit.

On May 17, 1970, the New York Times published an article written by James Boyd. The headline, written by our unknown editor, was “Nixon’s Southern Strategy: It’s All in the Charts.”

The article was about a very controversial political analyst named Kevin Phillips. Phillips believed that everyone voted according to their ethnic background, not according to their individual beliefs. And all a candidate had to do is frame their message according to whatever moves a particular ethnic group.

Phillips offered his services to the Nixon campaign. But if our unknown editor had bothered to read the story completely, he would’ve seen that Phillip’s and his theory was completely rejected!

Boyd wrote in his article, “Though Phillips’s ideas for an aggressive anti-liberal campaign strategy that would hasten defection of the working-class democrats to the republicans did not prevail in the 1968 campaign, he won the respect John Mitchell.” (Mitchell was a well-known Washington insider at the time).


A lazy, negligent editor partially read the story. And wrote a headline for it that attributed Nixon’s campaign success–to a plan he rejected.

In fact, Phillips isn’t even mentioned in Nixon’s memoirs.

Is all of this the result of a negligent copy editor at the New York Times? Or did they purposely work with the Democrat Party to create this myth? That has crossed my mind and it’s certainly not beyond the realm of possibility.



Nixon’s Southern Strategy: The Democrat-Lie Keeping Their Control Over the Black Community | Black Quill and Ink


Ken Raymond
Jun 2011

Richard Nixon’s “Southern Strategy”, which the democrats say is the reason black people had to support them during the 1960′s–is a lie.

And it’s probably the biggest lie that’s been told to the blacks since Woodrow Wilson segregated the federal government after getting the NAACP to support him.
After talking with black voters across the country about why they overwhelmingly supports democrats, the common answer that’s emerges is the Southern Strategy.

I’ve heard of the Southern Strategy too. But since it doesn’t make a difference in how I decide to vote, I never bothered to research it. But apparently it still influences how many African Americans vote today. That makes it worth investigating.

For those that might be unfamiliar with the Southern Strategy, I’ll briefly review the story. After the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, most blacks registered as democrats and it’s been that way ever since.

And that doesn’t make any sense when you consider the fact that it was the democrats that established, and fought for, Jim Crow laws and segregation in the first place. And the republicans have a very noble history of fighting for the civil rights of blacks.

The reason black people moved to the democrats, given by media pundits and educational institutions for the decades, is that when republican presidential candidate Richard Nixon ran for president in 1968, he employed a racist plan that’s now infamously called the Southern Strategy.

The Southern Strategy basically means Nixon allegedly used hidden code words that appealed to the racists within the Democrat party and throughout the south. This secret language caused a seismic shift in the electoral landscape that moved the evil racist democrats into the republican camp and the noble-hearted republicans into the democrat camp.

And here’s what I found, Nixon did not use a plan to appeal to racist white voters.

First, let’s look at the presidential candidates of 1968. Richard Nixon was the republican candidate; Hubert Humphrey was the democrat nominee; and George Wallace was a third party candidate.

Remember George Wallace? Wallace was the democrat governor of Alabama from 1963 until 1967. And it was Wallace that ordered the Eugene “Bull” Connor, and the police department, to attack Dr. Martin Luther King

Jr. and 2,500 protesters in Montgomery , Alabama in 1965. And it was Governor Wallace that ordered a blockade at the admissions office at the University of Alabama to prevent blacks from enrolling in 1963.

Governor Wallace was a true racist and a determined segregationist. And he ran as the nominee from the American Independent Party, which was he founded.

Richard Nixon wrote about the 1968 campaign in his book RN: the Memoirs of Richard Nixon originally published in 1978.

In his book, Nixon wrote this about campaigning in the south, “The deep south had to be virtually conceded to George Wallace. I could not match him there without compromising on civil rights, which I would not do.”

The media coverage of the 1968 presidential race also showed that Nixon was in favor of the Civil Rights and would not compromise on that issue. For example, in an article published in theWashington Post on September 15, 1968 headlined “Nixon Sped Integration, Wallace says” Wallace declared that Nixon agreed with Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren and played a role in ”the destruction of public school system.” Wallace pledged to restore the school system, in the same article, by giving it back to the states ”lock, stock, and barrel.”

This story, as well as Nixon’s memoirs and other news stories during that campaign, shows that Nixon was very clear about his position on civil rights. And if Nixon was used code words only racists could hear, evidently George Wallace couldn’t hear it.

Among the southern states, George Wallace won Arkansas , Mississippi , Alabama , Georgia and Louisiana . Nixon won North Carolina , South Carolina , Florida , Virginia , and Tennessee . Winning those states were part of Nixon’s plan.

“I would not concede the Carolina ‘s, Florida , or Virginia or the states around the rim of the south,”Nixon wrote. ”These states were a part of my plan.”

At that time, the entire southern region was the poorest in the country. The south consistently lagged behind the rest of the United States in income. And according to the

“U.S. Regional Growth and Convergence,” by Kris James Mitchener and Ian W. McLean, per capita income for southerners was almost half as much as it was for Americans in other regions.

Nixon won those states strictly on economic issues. He focused on increasing tariffs on foreign imports to protect the manufacturing and agriculture industries of those states. Some southern elected officials agreed to support him for the sake of their economies, including South Carolina Senator Strom Thurmond.


“I had been consulting privately with Thurmond for several months and I was convinced that he’d join my campaign if he were satisfied on the two issues of paramount concern to him: national defense and tariffs against textile imports to protect South Carolina ‘s position in the industry.”Nixon wrote in his memoirs.

In fact, Nixon made it clear to the southern elected officials that he would not compromise on the civil rights issue.

“On civil rights, Thurmond knew my position was very different from his,” Nixon wrote. “I was for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and he was against it. Although he disagreed with me, he respected my sincerity and candor.”


The same scenario played out among elected officials and voters in other southern states won by Nixon. They laid their feelings aside and supported him because of his economic platform’”not because Nixon sent messages on a frequency only racists can hear.
 
Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.
Did your nose grow when you posted that , pinnochio?


The Theory is that the republicans have been pandering to the racist whites, since the dems flipped on segregation back in the 60s.


Your side always says that.


If challenged, you normally get very evasive, but it grilled you finally can be forced to admit that all you have to support your vile accusations,


if one interview, years after the fact with lee atwater, and the smoke and mirrors of "dog whistles".


It is utter bullshit. You've got nothing.

A higher percentage of Republicans voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act than Democrats. Both a larger number of Democrats voted for it and against it because Democrats had a significant majority in Congress in the time. However, Republicans voted for it by a higher percentage.

80% of Republicans in the House and 82% in the Senate voted for it.
69% of Democrats in the House and 63% in the Senate voted for it.

1964 Congress:
Senate: 68 Democrats and 32 Republicans
House: 253 Democrats and 177 Republicans

Original Housed version:
  • Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
  • Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)
Cloture in the Senate:
  • Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
  • Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version:
  • Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
  • Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:
  • Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
  • Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)

A telling break down is between the Southern delegation and the Northern one.

The House of Representatives:[26]
  • Northern: 281–32 (90–10%)
  • Southern: 8–94 (8–92%)
The Senate:[26]
  • Northern: 72–6 (92–8%)
  • Southern: 1–21 (5–95%) (Ralph Yarborough of Texas was the only southerner to vote in favor in the Senate)
By party and region[edit]
The House of Representatives:[26]
  • Southern Democrats: 8–87 (7–93%) (four Representatives from Texas, two from Tennessee, Claude Pepper of Florida and Charles L. Weltner of Georgia voted in favor)
  • Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
  • Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
  • Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)
The Senate:[26]
"Telling breakdown?" Where's the evidence of a politician saying something that supports this "Southern strategy?"

Here is the Karl Rove of Reagan's era laying it out

 
Southern strategy - Wikipedia

In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans. As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party.


............


In American politics, the “southern strategy” refers to efforts by the Republican Party and its candidates to win presidential elections since 1964 by appealing to conservative whites (especially white southerners) disaffected with the Democratic Party by its strong embrace of civil rights laws in the 1960s and its racially egalitarian policies since.


And that is a lie.....as you guys have been shown over and over again......you can't turn it into the truth just by posting lies about it....

The actual article that created this lie........followed by actual facts about that lie...

See page 4 bottom of first column...


---------The detailed explanation of the big lie........
Nixon’s Southern Strategy: The Democrat-Lie Keeping Their Control Over the Black Community | Black Quill and Ink

Believe it or not, the entire myth was created by an unknown editor at the New York Times who didn’t do his job and read a story he was given to edit.

On May 17, 1970, the New York Times published an article written by James Boyd. The headline, written by our unknown editor, was “Nixon’s Southern Strategy: It’s All in the Charts.”

The article was about a very controversial political analyst named Kevin Phillips. Phillips believed that everyone voted according to their ethnic background, not according to their individual beliefs. And all a candidate had to do is frame their message according to whatever moves a particular ethnic group.

Phillips offered his services to the Nixon campaign. But if our unknown editor had bothered to read the story completely, he would’ve seen that Phillip’s and his theory was completely rejected!

Boyd wrote in his article, “Though Phillips’s ideas for an aggressive anti-liberal campaign strategy that would hasten defection of the working-class democrats to the republicans did not prevail in the 1968 campaign, he won the respect John Mitchell.” (Mitchell was a well-known Washington insider at the time).


A lazy, negligent editor partially read the story. And wrote a headline for it that attributed Nixon’s campaign success–to a plan he rejected.

In fact, Phillips isn’t even mentioned in Nixon’s memoirs.

Is all of this the result of a negligent copy editor at the New York Times? Or did they purposely work with the Democrat Party to create this myth? That has crossed my mind and it’s certainly not beyond the realm of possibility.



Nixon’s Southern Strategy: The Democrat-Lie Keeping Their Control Over the Black Community | Black Quill and Ink


Ken Raymond
Jun 2011

Richard Nixon’s “Southern Strategy”, which the democrats say is the reason black people had to support them during the 1960′s–is a lie.

And it’s probably the biggest lie that’s been told to the blacks since Woodrow Wilson segregated the federal government after getting the NAACP to support him.
After talking with black voters across the country about why they overwhelmingly supports democrats, the common answer that’s emerges is the Southern Strategy.

I’ve heard of the Southern Strategy too. But since it doesn’t make a difference in how I decide to vote, I never bothered to research it. But apparently it still influences how many African Americans vote today. That makes it worth investigating.

For those that might be unfamiliar with the Southern Strategy, I’ll briefly review the story. After the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, most blacks registered as democrats and it’s been that way ever since.

And that doesn’t make any sense when you consider the fact that it was the democrats that established, and fought for, Jim Crow laws and segregation in the first place. And the republicans have a very noble history of fighting for the civil rights of blacks.

The reason black people moved to the democrats, given by media pundits and educational institutions for the decades, is that when republican presidential candidate Richard Nixon ran for president in 1968, he employed a racist plan that’s now infamously called the Southern Strategy.

The Southern Strategy basically means Nixon allegedly used hidden code words that appealed to the racists within the Democrat party and throughout the south. This secret language caused a seismic shift in the electoral landscape that moved the evil racist democrats into the republican camp and the noble-hearted republicans into the democrat camp.

And here’s what I found, Nixon did not use a plan to appeal to racist white voters.

First, let’s look at the presidential candidates of 1968. Richard Nixon was the republican candidate; Hubert Humphrey was the democrat nominee; and George Wallace was a third party candidate.

Remember George Wallace? Wallace was the democrat governor of Alabama from 1963 until 1967. And it was Wallace that ordered the Eugene “Bull” Connor, and the police department, to attack Dr. Martin Luther King

Jr. and 2,500 protesters in Montgomery , Alabama in 1965. And it was Governor Wallace that ordered a blockade at the admissions office at the University of Alabama to prevent blacks from enrolling in 1963.

Governor Wallace was a true racist and a determined segregationist. And he ran as the nominee from the American Independent Party, which was he founded.

Richard Nixon wrote about the 1968 campaign in his book RN: the Memoirs of Richard Nixon originally published in 1978.

In his book, Nixon wrote this about campaigning in the south, “The deep south had to be virtually conceded to George Wallace. I could not match him there without compromising on civil rights, which I would not do.”

The media coverage of the 1968 presidential race also showed that Nixon was in favor of the Civil Rights and would not compromise on that issue. For example, in an article published in theWashington Post on September 15, 1968 headlined “Nixon Sped Integration, Wallace says” Wallace declared that Nixon agreed with Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren and played a role in ”the destruction of public school system.” Wallace pledged to restore the school system, in the same article, by giving it back to the states ”lock, stock, and barrel.”

This story, as well as Nixon’s memoirs and other news stories during that campaign, shows that Nixon was very clear about his position on civil rights. And if Nixon was used code words only racists could hear, evidently George Wallace couldn’t hear it.

Among the southern states, George Wallace won Arkansas , Mississippi , Alabama , Georgia and Louisiana . Nixon won North Carolina , South Carolina , Florida , Virginia , and Tennessee . Winning those states were part of Nixon’s plan.

“I would not concede the Carolina ‘s, Florida , or Virginia or the states around the rim of the south,”Nixon wrote. ”These states were a part of my plan.”

At that time, the entire southern region was the poorest in the country. The south consistently lagged behind the rest of the United States in income. And according to the

“U.S. Regional Growth and Convergence,” by Kris James Mitchener and Ian W. McLean, per capita income for southerners was almost half as much as it was for Americans in other regions.

Nixon won those states strictly on economic issues. He focused on increasing tariffs on foreign imports to protect the manufacturing and agriculture industries of those states. Some southern elected officials agreed to support him for the sake of their economies, including South Carolina Senator Strom Thurmond.


“I had been consulting privately with Thurmond for several months and I was convinced that he’d join my campaign if he were satisfied on the two issues of paramount concern to him: national defense and tariffs against textile imports to protect South Carolina ‘s position in the industry.”Nixon wrote in his memoirs.

In fact, Nixon made it clear to the southern elected officials that he would not compromise on the civil rights issue.

“On civil rights, Thurmond knew my position was very different from his,” Nixon wrote. “I was for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and he was against it. Although he disagreed with me, he respected my sincerity and candor.”


The same scenario played out among elected officials and voters in other southern states won by Nixon. They laid their feelings aside and supported him because of his economic platform’”not because Nixon sent messages on a frequency only racists can hear.

...We have the guy who ran the republican party in the 80s spelling it out. It's not some fucking myth

Contrary to popular belief our elites are not capable of keeping secrets that involve more than 25 people.

 
Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.
Did your nose grow when you posted that , pinnochio?


The Theory is that the republicans have been pandering to the racist whites, since the dems flipped on segregation back in the 60s.


Your side always says that.


If challenged, you normally get very evasive, but it grilled you finally can be forced to admit that all you have to support your vile accusations,


if one interview, years after the fact with lee atwater, and the smoke and mirrors of "dog whistles".


It is utter bullshit. You've got nothing.

A higher percentage of Republicans voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act than Democrats. Both a larger number of Democrats voted for it and against it because Democrats had a significant majority in Congress in the time. However, Republicans voted for it by a higher percentage.

80% of Republicans in the House and 82% in the Senate voted for it.
69% of Democrats in the House and 63% in the Senate voted for it.

1964 Congress:
Senate: 68 Democrats and 32 Republicans
House: 253 Democrats and 177 Republicans

Original Housed version:
  • Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
  • Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)
Cloture in the Senate:
  • Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
  • Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version:
  • Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
  • Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:
  • Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
  • Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)

A telling break down is between the Southern delegation and the Northern one.

The House of Representatives:[26]
  • Northern: 281–32 (90–10%)
  • Southern: 8–94 (8–92%)
The Senate:[26]
  • Northern: 72–6 (92–8%)
  • Southern: 1–21 (5–95%) (Ralph Yarborough of Texas was the only southerner to vote in favor in the Senate)
By party and region[edit]
The House of Representatives:[26]
  • Southern Democrats: 8–87 (7–93%) (four Representatives from Texas, two from Tennessee, Claude Pepper of Florida and Charles L. Weltner of Georgia voted in favor)
  • Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
  • Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
  • Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)
The Senate:[26]
"Telling breakdown?" Where's the evidence of a politician saying something that supports this "Southern strategy?"

Here is the Karl Rove of Reagan's era laying it out


Karl Rove is not of Reagan's era. He worked for Bush Jr. The man in the video is Lee Atwater, not Karl Rove.
 
Southern strategy - Wikipedia

In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans. As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party.


............


In American politics, the “southern strategy” refers to efforts by the Republican Party and its candidates to win presidential elections since 1964 by appealing to conservative whites (especially white southerners) disaffected with the Democratic Party by its strong embrace of civil rights laws in the 1960s and its racially egalitarian policies since.

Democrats did slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation, lynching, there was no need for another party to appeal to racism, you had it well covered. Still do today. Try being black and leaving the Democrat party. You'll learn how free you are. Or as Biden said, you ain't black
Had nothing to do with needing another racist party, had to do with wanting to win elections and republicans needing all those conservative southern Democrats changing parties, to do it.
"Telling breakdown?"

The North defeated the South again a hundred years later. The people felt betrayed by the Northern Democrats so they seats were easy prey to the Republican wordsmiths after the Dixiecrats retired.


The voting bloc the dems had built on racism fell. So the southern votes were open to appeal on other issues.

It was a good thing.

Lee Atwater talked about it, in that interview that you lefties all cite, but never actually read.


I love the way Leftists try and portray this. They are so phony-e-baloney.

How about this------------------>Black Americans voted for Democrats since FDR; because FDR gave them a measly check during the great depression. That is when Black Americans turned to Democrats, not before.

So why did the South turn Republican?

How about I help you out a little Leftists, and lets see if you can follow along------------->

1. Did or did not Black Americans vote massively for Democrats, with the percentage rising from the time of FDR?

ANSWER----------->Yes, absolutely.

2. So why then did the South turn red? Was it some racist dog whistle?

ANSWER-----------> LOL, HELL NO! What it really was came to Black Americans fleeing the South where there was no jobs worth a damn, and migrating to Detroit, Chicago, and cities with a large industrial base. They wanted a JOB worth a damn, preferably a union job, and leaving the racist South run by racist Democrats who they voted for, was just a plum in their cap. With those votes leaving en mass, it is any wonder that the Republicans then won.

Look at the migration curve of Black America in the middle 60s to middle 70s. And remember, since the time of FDR handing out a pittance of a check to them to feed their family during the depression, they were already solidly Democrat. Also remember, the poll tax?!?!?!?! Who created that tax oh great Lefties! Back in those days, people KNEW who you voted for, didn't they Leftists.

There is no doubt, Black Americans have been screwed over while they were on the Southern Democrats cotton plantations, and when the Republicans fought to free them and succeeded, the Southern Democrats devised new ways to screw them. Ever hear of sharecropping? Well, that was a NEW way to keep Black labor cheap as hell.

And what happened when Southern Blacks moved North and joined labor unions, making more money in a week then they could in the South in a month or more?

While they learned what all union members know---------------->the price of your job is monthly dues, and you must vote DEMORAT! Unions are like the Borg on Star Trek, you either vote their way, give union dues collected to the Democrats, or you lose your job. I know this is all true, I worked for the UAW for over 30 years!

Imagine if you will the Borg mindset of a union for a minute if you will--------------->we are going to put CAFE standards on your products, we are going to try and eliminate fossil fuels, we want to tax the hell out fuel so less people will drive or buy new cars, and when all of this started the Japanese are going to clean your clock and put 40% of you on the street because they have been building little cars for years. But don't you worry, Republicans are meanies, so vote for us, the great Democrats so we can do this to you! And until Reagan, and then Trump came along, THEY DID!

By the way Lefties, here is a clue for you---------------------->The union hierarchy is solidly Democrat. But, blue collar workers have moved significantly towards the GOP. They seen what you did and have had enough!
Some black people moved north, but most did not.

The southern strategy, is precisely as the encyclopedia described it to be, that I gave a link to above...

You are trying to rewrite history, decades later....
.


Except that when I call any of you lefties to back up the claim of "by appealing to racism against african americans"


All you can come up with to support that claim, the crux of the matter, is "secret magic code words".


It is a bullshit Conspiracy Theory, that you people can't back up with anything but vapor and bullshit.


No, they sent out magic decoder rings to white folks all throughout the South. Super secret words like Protect our Heritage, or Our way of life is under attack. 2nd Amendment solutions.....The whistles still work today!


LOl!!! You joke but that is all you have to support this goofy ass conspiracy theory.


Magic code words.

This nation has had a bi-partisan consensus on equality for blacks since the mid 60s. Since then the debate has been on how to reach it.


Your inability to support the central claim of the Conspiracy Theory, ie the republicans appeal to wacism,


is noted and appreciated.


THanks.
 
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Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.
Did your nose grow when you posted that , pinnochio?


The Theory is that the republicans have been pandering to the racist whites, since the dems flipped on segregation back in the 60s.


Your side always says that.


If challenged, you normally get very evasive, but it grilled you finally can be forced to admit that all you have to support your vile accusations,


if one interview, years after the fact with lee atwater, and the smoke and mirrors of "dog whistles".


It is utter bullshit. You've got nothing.

A higher percentage of Republicans voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act than Democrats. Both a larger number of Democrats voted for it and against it because Democrats had a significant majority in Congress in the time. However, Republicans voted for it by a higher percentage.

80% of Republicans in the House and 82% in the Senate voted for it.
69% of Democrats in the House and 63% in the Senate voted for it.

1964 Congress:
Senate: 68 Democrats and 32 Republicans
House: 253 Democrats and 177 Republicans

Original Housed version:
  • Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
  • Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)
Cloture in the Senate:
  • Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
  • Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version:
  • Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
  • Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:
  • Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
  • Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)

A telling break down is between the Southern delegation and the Northern one.

The House of Representatives:[26]
  • Northern: 281–32 (90–10%)
  • Southern: 8–94 (8–92%)
The Senate:[26]
  • Northern: 72–6 (92–8%)
  • Southern: 1–21 (5–95%) (Ralph Yarborough of Texas was the only southerner to vote in favor in the Senate)
By party and region[edit]
The House of Representatives:[26]
  • Southern Democrats: 8–87 (7–93%) (four Representatives from Texas, two from Tennessee, Claude Pepper of Florida and Charles L. Weltner of Georgia voted in favor)
  • Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
  • Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
  • Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)
The Senate:[26]
"Telling breakdown?" Where's the evidence of a politician saying something that supports this "Southern strategy?"

Here is the Karl Rove of Reagan's era laying it out




Yeah, I linked to the text of the interview and cut and pasted portions of it.


It boils down to, "magic code words" like I said.


YOu have nothing.
 
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Assertion: The Southern Strategy is a massive conspiracy theory.

THe contention made is that for over 50 years, the republicans have been speaking in the open, using secrete\ "code" or "Dog whistles" that only the massive white racist population, which seems to be at least tens of millions of people, know is actually the political candidates letting the racist voters know that the candidates are racist too, and will... govern racistly in favor of white people.


Now, for 50 years, the republicans have never actually done that, or delivered on those secret promises, but the theory just ignores that.


It is nothing but a massive smear campaign against good people, people who are sick and tired of being called names, by race baiting a-holes.
Did your nose grow when you posted that , pinnochio?


The Theory is that the republicans have been pandering to the racist whites, since the dems flipped on segregation back in the 60s.


Your side always says that.


If challenged, you normally get very evasive, but it grilled you finally can be forced to admit that all you have to support your vile accusations,


if one interview, years after the fact with lee atwater, and the smoke and mirrors of "dog whistles".


It is utter bullshit. You've got nothing.

A higher percentage of Republicans voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act than Democrats. Both a larger number of Democrats voted for it and against it because Democrats had a significant majority in Congress in the time. However, Republicans voted for it by a higher percentage.

80% of Republicans in the House and 82% in the Senate voted for it.
69% of Democrats in the House and 63% in the Senate voted for it.

1964 Congress:
Senate: 68 Democrats and 32 Republicans
House: 253 Democrats and 177 Republicans

Original Housed version:
  • Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
  • Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)
Cloture in the Senate:
  • Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
  • Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version:
  • Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
  • Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:
  • Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
  • Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)

A telling break down is between the Southern delegation and the Northern one.

The House of Representatives:[26]
  • Northern: 281–32 (90–10%)
  • Southern: 8–94 (8–92%)
The Senate:[26]
  • Northern: 72–6 (92–8%)
  • Southern: 1–21 (5–95%) (Ralph Yarborough of Texas was the only southerner to vote in favor in the Senate)
By party and region[edit]
The House of Representatives:[26]
  • Southern Democrats: 8–87 (7–93%) (four Representatives from Texas, two from Tennessee, Claude Pepper of Florida and Charles L. Weltner of Georgia voted in favor)
  • Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
  • Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
  • Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)
The Senate:[26]
"Telling breakdown?" Where's the evidence of a politician saying something that supports this "Southern strategy?"

Here is the Karl Rove of Reagan's era laying it out


Karl Rove is not of Reagan's era. He worked for Bush Jr. The man in the video is Lee Atwater, not Karl Rove.


karl rove OF reagan's era

THe guy's name is lee atwater

It's right there on the fucking video thumbnail dude

He ran Reagan's natinoal campaigns. Maybe you should use your head before you respond...My god
 

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