Solving the Problem with the Strait of Hormuz: Nuclear Weapons

[Captain Creeper]

We know the issue. Iran is violating international law by blocking and threatening international shipping channels in the Strait of Hormuz. This in itself is justification for war with Iran.

The Iranian frontier along the Strait is rugged and sparsely populated. Their people ride around, moving constantly, in their little Toyota pickup trucks and launching munitions into the Strait. They launch little boats and attack shipping. It is hard to stop such hillbilly attacks. But there is one way to stop it.

We can detonate one or more small nuclear weapons just west of the Strait at ground level. Prevailing winds in the area come from the west/northwest. The Persian Gulf wind analysis using meteorological synoptic stations data

Thus, the fallout will hang right around the coast, in Iran. The size of the nuclear weapons will largely determine how far dangerous fallout will travel. It gauged correctly, the dangerous fallout will stay in Iran for the most part. A little bit of it could get carried into Pakistan, so robust diplomacy will be needed to placate them.

The fallout in and around the inland areas in Iran that are adjacent with the Strait - i.e., where Iran stages attacks on vessels in the Strait will be deadly. Because Iran is a Flintstones culture, propaganda directed at Iranians will be useful to convince the people not to travel into the danger zone in order to maximize the desired result.

With sufficient notice to maritime interests, the irradiation of this region can be done without danger to shipping. Due to the prevailing winds, shipping thereafter may resume with little danger.

I cannot think of a better, more efficient, way to liberate the Strait of Hormuz from Iranian terrorism.

 

[Concerned American]

We can detonate one or more small nuclear weapons

And that won't open a Pandora's Box of new problems.

 

[Captain Creeper]

And that won't open a Pandora's Box of new problems.

Not necessarily.

 

[eagle1462010]

Nukes are acts of the desperate. They ensure the destruction of mankind.

B52s can pound Iran to dust. Nukes are not needed

 

[Captain Creeper]

Nukes are acts of the desperate. They ensure the destruction of mankind.

B52s can pound Iran to dust. Nukes are not needed

I don’t think you get it. It is not destruction that it is needed. We need to keep the Irannecks around from the Strait so they cannot threaten shipping. Radiation will create a zone of death they will not enter, unless they want to die.

It’s not desperation. It is smart.

 

[ozro]

1) The area around the strait is populated. There are at least three decent size cities there.
2) Iran is a modern country, with modern infrastructure. It is far from a "flintstone culture".
3) The movement of radioactive fallout is not as predictable as the OP makes it out to be.

 

[Captain Creeper]

1) The area around the strait is populated. There are at least three decent size cities there.
2) Iran is a modern country, with modern infrastructure. It is far from a "flintstone culture".
3) The movement of radioactive fallout is not as predictable as the OP makes it out to be.

1. Good

2. They had bridges and cars in The Flintstones.

3. Fallout will travel on the wings of prevailing winds.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

We know the issue. Iran is violating international law by blocking and threatening international shipping channels in the Strait of Hormuz. This in itself is justification for war with Iran.

The Iranian frontier along the Strait is rugged and sparsely populated. Their people ride around, moving constantly, in their little Toyota pickup trucks and launching munitions into the Strait. They launch little boats and attack shipping. It is hard to stop such hillbilly attacks. But there is one way to stop it.

We can detonate one or more small nuclear weapons just west of the Strait at ground level. Prevailing winds in the area come from the west/northwest. The Persian Gulf wind analysis using meteorological synoptic stations data

Thus, the fallout will hang right around the coast, in Iran. The size of the nuclear weapons will largely determine how far dangerous fallout will travel. It gauged correctly, the dangerous fallout will stay in Iran for the most part. A little bit of it could get carried into Pakistan, so robust diplomacy will be needed to placate them.

The fallout in and around the inland areas in Iran that are adjacent with the Strait - i.e., where Iran stages attacks on vessels in the Strait will be deadly. Because Iran is a Flintstones culture, propaganda directed at Iranians will be useful to convince the people not to travel into the danger zone in order to maximize the desired result.

With sufficient notice to maritime interests, the irradiation of this region can be done without danger to shipping. Due to the prevailing winds, shipping thereafter may resume with little danger.

I cannot think of a better, more efficient, way to liberate the Strait of Hormuz from Iranian terrorism.

 

[Captain Creeper]

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[Concerned American]

1) The area around the strait is populated. There are at least three decent size cities there.
2) Iran is a modern country, with modern infrastructure. It is far from a "flintstone culture".
3) The movement of radioactive fallout is not as predictable as the OP makes it out to be.

The radius of total destruction around the Hiroshima bomb was 1 mile with the effects of the radiation extending several miles and that was with a minuscule bomb compared with those available today. The strait of Hormuz is only 24 miles wide with friendlies just across the strait---a nuke would be devastating to the strait.

 

[ozro]

1. Good

2. They had bridges and cars in The Flintstones.

3. Fallout will travel on the wings of prevailing winds.

If you want to see what Iran is really like, there is a movie about the cyber attack that the USA and Israeli governments launched on the Iranians.
Some footage in the movie is from Iranian propaganda films from the Iranian government itself.
Some footage is from spies that smuggled the cameras in and the footage out.
The movie is called "Zero Days".

Additionally, Iran has allies, who would view the use of nuclear weapons in such a manner as permission for them to do the same in our zones of interest.

 

[Concerned American]

If you want to see what Iran is really like, there is a movie about the cyber attack that the USA and Israeli governments launched on the Iranians.
Some footage in the movie is from Iranian propaganda films from the Iranian government itself.
Some footage is from spies that smuggled the cameras in and the footage out.
The movie is called "Zero Days".

Additionally, Iran has allies, who would view the use of nuclear weapons in such a manner as permission for them to do the same in our zones of interest.

Mutually Assured Destruction is a real thing.

 

[ozro]

Mutually Assured Destruction is a real thing.

Absolutely it is. Considering human nature, it's probably a damn good thing for humanity as well.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We know the issue. Iran is violating international law by blocking and threatening international shipping channels in the Strait of Hormuz. This in itself is justification for war with Iran.

The Iranian frontier along the Strait is rugged and sparsely populated. Their people ride around, moving constantly, in their little Toyota pickup trucks and launching munitions into the Strait. They launch little boats and attack shipping. It is hard to stop such hillbilly attacks. But there is one way to stop it.

We can detonate one or more small nuclear weapons just west of the Strait at ground level. Prevailing winds in the area come from the west/northwest. The Persian Gulf wind analysis using meteorological synoptic stations data

Thus, the fallout will hang right around the coast, in Iran. The size of the nuclear weapons will largely determine how far dangerous fallout will travel. It gauged correctly, the dangerous fallout will stay in Iran for the most part. A little bit of it could get carried into Pakistan, so robust diplomacy will be needed to placate them.

The fallout in and around the inland areas in Iran that are adjacent with the Strait - i.e., where Iran stages attacks on vessels in the Strait will be deadly. Because Iran is a Flintstones culture, propaganda directed at Iranians will be useful to convince the people not to travel into the danger zone in order to maximize the desired result.

With sufficient notice to maritime interests, the irradiation of this region can be done without danger to shipping. Due to the prevailing winds, shipping thereafter may resume with little danger.

I cannot think of a better, more efficient, way to liberate the Strait of Hormuz from Iranian terrorism.

Have you sought professional psychiatric help for these delusions?

Do you know what is east/southeast of the straits? Check a map in case you are geographically challenged. Hint: It's the second most populus country in the world and may soon be larger than China.

 

[Captain Creeper]

Have you sought professional psychiatric help for these delusions?

Do you know what is east/southeast of the straits? Check a map in case you are geographically challenged. Hint: It's the second most populus country in the world and may soon be larger than China.

Did you not read my post and the citation verifying prevailing winds?

 

[Captain Creeper]

The radius of total destruction around the Hiroshima bomb was 1 mile with the effects of the radiation extending several miles and that was with a minuscule bomb compared with those available today. The strait of Hormuz is only 24 miles wide with friendlies just across the strait---a nuke would be devastating to the strait.

As I explained, planning can mitigate potential damage.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Did you not read my post and the citation verifying prevailing winds?

The winds are from the west/northwest. That means they blow east/southeast, just like at my house.

The leaves on my trees end up in my neighbor's yard,

Are you terminally stupid as well as criminally insane?

 

[Captain Creeper]

The winds are from the west/northwest. That means they blow east/southeast.

Yep, and?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yep, and?

You aren't reading my posts. I already explained it.

 

[Captain Creeper]

You aren't reading my posts. I already explained it.

I explained it correctly. Winds moving west to east may send some fallout (the degree of which depends on the size of the weapon) eastward … into Pakistan. As I stated in the OP, “robust diplomacy” with Pakistan will be needed.

Read my op before commenting further, please.