Socialism is more popular than Project 2025

[CDN1]

Socialism, Communism, Marxism, and a full list of other isms are used interchangeably to indicate anything MAGAs don't like. My brother: God rest his soul, said red lights were socialist.

Just like the left with the slew of phobias + racist, nazi, fascist.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In Mein Kampf Hitler condemns Communists and Social Democrats. He never condemns anyone on the right.

Well, Communists and Social Democrats are much, much worse than anyone on the right.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In Mein Kampf, Volume I, Chapter IV, "Munich" Hitler wrote:

"If one wanted land and soil in Europe, then by and large this could only have been done at Russia's expense...

"For such a policy, however, there was only one single ally in Europe: England...

"To gain England's favor, no sacrifice should have been too great. Then one would have had to renounce colonies and sea power, but to spare British industry our competition."

That is not something a man on the left would have written.

No one on the left would write about wanting land in Russia?

Why not?

 

[Hector12]

No one on the left would write about wanting land in Russia?

Why not?

Someone on the left would not see England as an ally. He would see the Soviet Union as an ally.

 

[Hector12]

Well, Communists and Social Democrats are much, much worse than anyone on the right.

Social Democrats are fine. They run for election and respect the outcomes of elections, which Trump did not in 2020, and which I do not think he will do if he loses in 2024. as I certainly hope he will.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Someone on the left would not see England as an ally. He would see the Soviet Union as an ally.

Why couldn't someone on the left see England as an ally if that ally
could get you a bunch of Russian land?

You're making less sense than usual.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Social Democrats are fine. They run for election and respect the outcomes of elections, which Trump did not in 2020, and which I do not think he will do if he loses in 2024. as I certainly hope he will.

Social Democrats are fine.

Nah. They're mostly whiny twats.

 

[Hector12]

Why couldn't someone on the left see England as an ally if that ally
could get you a bunch of Russian land?

You're making less sense than usual.

I am telling you what you do not want to believe. The Nazi movement was not conservative, but it was not on the left either. That is why rich people supported it, despite reservations.

 

[BULLDOG]

And all I will see, because you know you can't prove your bullshit claim.
Your reply will only serve to prove me correct.

Of course. Maga facts depend on the mood you're in and are highly fluid. That's the definition of alternative facts. A great example of that is you believe every court case where the judge does not endorse trump's claims are the result of deep state judges ignoring the laws at the behest of the so-called deep state. Your mind is made up. Real facts only confuse you.

 

[Arlette]

In a recent NBC survey of registered voters that gauged the popularity of several things, it was shown that Socialism has more likes and fewer dislikes than Project 2025. With MAGAs eager to classify anything they don't like as Socialism; it's telling to note that it is still more popular than the right-wing plan to purge the government of all whose allegiance is to the constitution rather than trump. When they put out a several hundred-page report about what they intend to do, we should pay attention and vote to stop such heinous actions.

MSN

Meatball DeSantis is calling President Biden and begging for some socialism.

 

[BULLDOG]

Meatball DeSantis is calling President Biden and begging for some socialism.

It's not socialism when they want it. I'm not sure what they might call it, but I'm sure they don't think of it as socialism.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I am telling you what you do not want to believe. The Nazi movement was not conservative, but it was not on the left either. That is why rich people supported it, despite reservations.

How much control over the economy did the Nazis want?
90%? 95%?

 

[Arlette]

It's not socialism when they want it. I'm not sure what they might call it, but I'm sure they don't think of it as socialism.

It's socialism

 

[BULLDOG]

It's socialism

Of course it is. Their MAGA brainwashing doesn't allow them to admit it though.

 

[Arlette]

Of course it is. Their MAGA brainwashing doesn't allow them to admit it though.

Yup. Tampa is under water. Let the free market take care of it

 

[Hector12]

How much control over the economy did the Nazis want?
90%? 95%?

A lot. Hitler was a dictator.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A lot. Hitler was a dictator.

A lot. No kidding. That's the left-wing way.

 

[Hector12]

A lot. No kidding. That's the left-wing way.

Words are not absolute truths. They are conventions.

I define "left" as committed to the ideal of equality. "Right" is committed to the ideal of inequality. The Nazis believed in racial inequality. The Communists believed in economic equality, although they did not live up to their ideal.

 

[Hector12]

Nobody is scared by socialism. That has been around in various forms for decades. It's Marxism that America first Republicans are against, and Harris-Walz are Marxists. MAGA

"Marxist" has become a slur word like "racist."

During my years in the anti war I knew a few Marxists. They were not quiet about it.

Marxism has never been a leading ideology among the Democrats.

 

[Hector12]

Just like the left with the slew of phobias + racist, nazi, fascist.

Words ending with "ist" are used to suppress an honest dialogue, rather than to advance one. This is true for "Marxist" and "racist."

Calling someone a "Marxist" or a "racist" is name calling. Name calling is the lowest form of discourse.