So, What Was The Bottom Line To The Chat Group Security Flub?

[krichton]

Just in case anyone missed it the first time.

 

[Leo123]

It's not a reporters job to "notify" anyone of their stupidity. How was he even supposed to know the chat group was real, with the entire presidential cabinet, until the strikes against the houthis actually happened? A good reporter observes, confirms his observations and then reports.

Biden and Obama used signal??? Link please

If Biden had invited Goldberg to a war planning in a Signal group chat I can guarantee you wouldn't be complaining about Goldberg not making his presence known and reporting the entire discussion.

Mike Waltz's Signal password is literally on the internet, but ok, let's pretend none of this matters, because you know, tribalism and hyper partisan politics.

What garbage. GoldBERG should have said something right away. Apparently even he didn't think his addition to the chat was a problem. OH but NOW he screams like a stuck pig because he HATES Trump.

 

[Leo123]

Just in case anyone missed it the first time.

What's your point?

 

[Leo123]

So Goldberg is to blame for the security breach?

Sooo..... the Trump administration was the source of the security breach, and you want Goldberg to take the story of the breach to the Trump administration. Gotcha, you're too smart for me.

If Goldberg actually cared about America he should have STFU and should have told Trump what happened. However, he HATES Trump and will do anything to undermine him. Goldberg doesn't care that Trump is a duly elected POTUS and at least 80% of We The People voted for him. All GoldBERG cares about is his preserving his own personal unfounded hatred of another human being.

 

[OldFlame]

It's not a reporters job to "notify" anyone of their stupidity. How was he even supposed to know the chat group was real, with the entire presidential cabinet, until the strikes against the houthis actually happened? A good reporter observes, confirms his observations and then reports.

Biden and Obama used signal??? Link please

If Biden had invited Goldberg to a war planning in a Signal group chat I can guarantee you wouldn't be complaining about Goldberg not making his presence known and reporting the entire discussion.

Mike Waltz's Signal password is literally on the internet, but ok, let's pretend none of this matters, because you know, tribalism and hyper partisan politics.

You just sound stupid, do your own research. Goldberg is a traitor.

 

[Hollie]

Be careful, Hollie will accuse you of posting goofy photoshopped pictures of drunkard Pete.

Oh Hollie, such a denier.
Chug-a-Lug

You somehow think you’re anything but a moron cutting and pasting undated and unsourced photos you steal from the web.

“I dun’ seen it on the inter web so it must be true” is no way to go through life, little lady.

 

[Hollie]

Just in case anyone missed it the first time.

Just in case anyone missed it, Signal was a holdover from the Biden Clown Show.

 

[Mac-7]

That’s the nature of the fuck up

You include a reporter in something like that and it gets reported

You are beating a dead horse

I have agreed from the start that putting Greenberg in the chat was very stupid

 

[Mac-7]

IF Goldberg had published what he knew, BEFORE the 'Attack Plans' were carried out,
do you think they would have continued?

This is hypothetical, he would NEVER do it for Safety and Security reasons, but IF he released the text chat, with all this 'UNCLASSIFIED....LOLLOL" 'attack plan' Hegseth certainly would have cancelled the plan, or RISK losing Military Personal.

You Think?

Thanks for conceded that there was no harm and no fowl connected to the chat until Greenberg went public

 

[Mac-7]

So Goldberg is to blame for the security breach?

Sooo..... the Trump administration was the source of the security breach, and you want Goldberg to take the story of the breach to the Trump administration. Gotcha, you're too smart for me.

Yes

In fact Greenberg IS the security breech

 

[Mac-7]

So you're in favor of covering up security breaches then, gotcha.

Dont practice your lying lib ways on me

I have said Greenberg should have alerted the white house privately for corrective action

 

[ColonelAngus]

The big take away is that if you accidentally come in possession of TOP SECRET CLASSIFIED MILITARY INFORMATION about upcoming strikes in Yemen, you should immediately post them to social media.

Lefties have always loved Snowden!!

It is bad to accidentally share classified info, it is good to post that info on social media if you have it.

 

[Winco]

Thanks for conceded that there was no harm and no fowl connected to the chat until Greenberg went public

His name is Jeffery Goldberg.

Dont practice your lying lib ways on me

I have said Greenberg should have alerted the white house privately for corrective action

I think it needed to be brought to the attention of the public, after the fact, just like what happened. Goldberg waited and ONLY went as far as he did because of the constant LIES by Waltz, Hegseth, Gabbard and Ratcliffe.
Hegseth and Waltz need to be exposed for their incompetence.

You really think that Hegseth is the Best and Highest Qualified candidate?
Dear Lord, Hegseth was exposed for being an idiot well before his conformation, yet the (R) let him lead one of the most powerful positions in the USA.

Hegseth needs to go, because he WILL cause people to lose lives.

 

[Mac-7]

His name is Jeffery Goldberg.

I think it needed to be brought to the attention of the public, after the fact, just like what happened. Goldberg waited and ONLY went as far as he did because of the constant LIES by Waltz, Hegseth, Gabbard and Ratcliffe.
Hegseth and Waltz need to be exposed for their incompetence.

You really think that Hegseth is the Best and Highest Qualified candidate?
Dear Lord, Hegseth was exposed for being an idiot well before his conformation, yet the (R) let him lead one of the most powerful positions in the USA.

Hegseth needs to go, because he WILL cause people to lose lives.

You really think that Hegseth is the Best and Highest Qualified candidate?

Do you know of a better person for the job?

 

[Winco]

You really think that Hegseth is the Best and Highest Qualified candidate?

Do you know of a better person for the job?

Just like DeVos and McMahon, neither has "educational' experience, but were awarded one of the highest educational positions in the USA.
WHY?

Pure Loyalty, and that is no way to run a Country.

 

[Mac-7]

Just like DeVos and McMahon, neither has "educational' experience, but were awarded one of the highest educational positions in the USA.
WHY?

Pure Loyalty, and that is no way to run a Country.

I asked who you prefer instead of Hegseth?

 

[Mac-7]

Pure Loyalty, and that is no way to run a Country.

I think I see where you are going

You oppose the trump agenda and you want officials in the cabinet that oppose trump also

 

[Winco]

I asked who you prefer instead of Hegseth?

I'm in education, And I know there are more highly people to lead the Department of Education, other than McMahon or DeVos, but I certainly don't know the names of all these highly qualified individuals.

It's obvious that Hegseth is not qualified, but I don't know the names of MANY highly qualified Military Members.

In November, when trump was elected, did you think, yeah, when trump fills the Sec of Defense, he has to consider Hegseth, because Hegseth is definitely the most qualified.

Fair enough....probably NOT.

 

[Winco]

I think I see where you are going

You oppose the trump agenda and you want officials in the cabinet that oppose trump also

That's nowhere close to what I want.
The cabinet members need to be qualified.....Number 1.
Hegseth is a military vet, and more qualified than non-military individuals, but just because he served, doesn't make Pete qualified to be the Sec of Defense.

 

[schmidlap]

I see lefty after lefty after lefty hyping this up for political reasons like some really awful thing. Yes, it was indeed a flub and should be learned from. Took me by surprise that we even have a group chat over a national security thing as important as this was.

But, what was really the bottom line of it all? Did it mess up our attack plans? No.

Did it expose classifed security to our enemies? Doesn't seem to have. As I understand it, the info was accidentally texted to a US reporter and, to the best of my knowledge, he did nothing nefarious with the information which would be traitorous to our country, therefore none of the flub had anything to do with anything detrimental to our country.

Yes, it was careless, just as Hillary Clinton's email server in her basement which could easily be hacked by our enemies was labeled extremely careless.

But, to the best of my knowledge, this is all a huge nothingburger being used as political ammo against Trump that does need to be fixed.

Blithely dismissing this egregious display of incompetence as, essentially, of no consequence is a line that diehard Trumpers may swallow, but anyone who understands the vital need for national security isn't buying it.

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..."There are people whose lives are literally on the line, whether that's service personnel, whether that's intelligence personnel," Michael Williams, an expert on international relations and a professor at Syracuse University, told Military.com in an interview Tuesday. "These guys are supposed to be leaders of the free world, the responsible leaders of the military, the greatest country in the world, and they can't perform basic operational security."..

Experts who spoke with Military.com on Tuesday said it's highly unlikely that operational details at the level Goldberg described would not be classified. And, they added, sharing the information outside of classified systems is incredibly irresponsible.

"It's an extraordinary departure from how we deal with classified information," Eric Carpenter, a law professor at the Florida International University College of Law and a former Army judge advocate, told Military.com in a phone interview Tuesday.

Carpenter added that, if a service member were to do something similar, they would be facing a court-martial.

‘This Is Completely Insane’: A Reality Check About the Signal Chat Leak​

A national security insider explains what counts as a war plan and why top officials don’t even need Signal.​

My initial reaction was: This is completely insane. A, I can’t believe they are doing all of this on Signal, and B, even more remarkable, I can’t believe they added Jeffrey Goldberg. Both in terms of the level of sensitivity of information that was on that discussion, but also part of the reason that you don’t do things like that on Signal is precisely because of user error. We’ve all added the wrong person to a chat at some point. But there are systems in place where I can never accidentally email this to Jeffrey Goldberg, because if I was on a classified system sending an email to this group of people, his email would never pop up because he would never have access. The whole thing was just jaw-dropping.