bripat9643
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Man, you are on a roll!Those are two words you never see together: Bripat and clever.
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Man, you are on a roll!Those are two words you never see together: Bripat and clever.
The Ukraine invasion is a European problem.
I don't know any Trumpers here who support Pootin. He's a KGB thug who deserves a bullet between his beady little eyes.Listen no one is falling for your pathetic attempts at gaslighting. If you are too weak kneed to acknowledge the reality that Trump and Trumpers have supported Putin in the past, you are beyond having a rational conversation with.
Putin has his reasons and those reasons are evil. Ignoring the enemy's 'reasons' is a prescription for losing. Trump understood Putin and that is why he didn't move during Trump's Presidency. Biden is completely clueless which he exhibited by cutting fuel production in the U.S. which emboldened Putin.Yes it does Americas enemy attacking a country for no reasons and you're silent???
I agree with you about Putin. There were plenty of Trumpers on this board who had kind words for Putin. However, I do give credit to those who came around to condeming Putin. The problem I have is when these same folks try to gaslight about their past positions.I don't know any Trumpers here who support Pootin. He's a KGB thug who deserves a bullet between his beady little eyes.
We understand who Putin is, the lefties think that amounts to liking Putin, they are so clueless.I don't know any Trumpers here who support Pootin. He's a KGB thug who deserves a bullet between his beady little eyes.
Who on this board has had 'kind words' for Putin?I agree with you about Putin. There were plenty of Trumpers on this board who has kind words for Putin. However, I do give credit to those that came around to condeming Putin. The problem I have is when they try to gaslight about their past positions.
Plenty.Who on this board has had 'kind words' for Putin?
This is as ignorant as it is wrong.Putin's a leftist. He's one of yours. This mindless screeching that conservatives support him is just stupid.
We understand who Putin is, the lefties think that amounts to liking Putin, they are so clueless.
The problem is Europe keeps getting into problems and the US has to solve them.
See WW1 and WW2
They would have to finally think something through to know what you said is true. Not much of a chance of that happening.Idiot OP assumes that Republicans, in general, supported Putin.
Just because we didn't root for one side in a war on the other side of the world, which doesn't involve us, does not mean that we were rooting for the other side either.
American conservatives are just as unhinged as Putin in their defense of the Russian tyrant and warmonger.
The US involvement only made things worse.
We should never have been dragged into those illegal wars.
Remember, the Allies started WWI by assassinating Archduke Ferdinand and his wife, and France illegal started it by invading Bavaria.
That means the US sided with the criminals.
‘Ukraine’s dramatic show of wartime unity and national strength is exceptionally inconvenient for Putin. In his increasingly unhinged attempts to justify his war, the Russian ruler has claimed to be fighting against a ragtag band of “fascists,” “Nazis,” and “drug addicts” who represent no one but their own interests and their “paymasters” in the West. As it turns out, Putin has declared war on a patriotic nation of more than 40 million people in a country the size of France.’ ibid
American conservatives are just as unhinged as Putin in their defense of the Russian tyrant and warmonger.
Which American conservatives are defending Putin?
~~~~~~Ukraine War: Vladimir Putin has gambled everything and lost
Ukraine War: Vladimir Putin has gambled everything and lost
Until Vladimir Putin lunched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in the early hours of February 24, he was winning his standoff with the West. He had compelled the United States and Europe to take his demands seriously; he experienced the pleasure of being treated as the leader of a great power; and he had succeeded in intimidating the Ukrainians as well as Russia’s other neighboring states and the wider world.
All he had to do to solidify his victory was to recognize the independence of the so-called separatist republics in the Donbas, acknowledge that Ukraine’s chances of joining NATO were nil, and continue his creeping subversion of Ukraine in the expectation that, sooner or later, it would drift back into Russia’s orbit.
And then he blew it all by invading Ukraine.
Overnight, Russia became a pariah state. The West has already imposed an expanding range of sanctions with more expected. International opinion has almost unanimously condemned Putin’s war of aggression, and thousands of his own citizens have expressed their opposition to the war in demonstrations and petitions.
Most importantly, Ukrainians have fought back, fiercely. This was something Putin probably did not expect. In his initial announcement of a “special military operation,” Putin called on Ukrainian soldiers to lay down their arms, not out of concern for their lives, but because he truly believed they would be happy to do so. But they weren’t and they didn’t. Instead, they have inflicted punishing losses on his invasion force and have inspired the watching world with their courage.
Now the supposed chess grandmaster Putin has effectively maneuvered himself into an unwinnable position. Ukrainians throughout the entire country, regardless of the language they prefer to speak, their religion or ethnic background, have rallied around the flag. Tens of thousands have volunteered for territorial defense units. Many more have donated blood. Untold others have handed over their savings to help finance the defense of the country. An historic wave of patriotic fervor has gripped Ukraine.
The Ukrainian nation has been joined by diaspora Ukrainians, who are now busy staging rallies and fundraising for their homeland. All these Ukrainians now consider themselves part of a modern Ukrainian nation that is as diverse as it is united in its opposition to Putin and everything he stands for: namely dictatorship and vassalage. Ukrainians have demonstrated that they love their country, despite all its extant faults, and that they are willing to sacrifice greatly for it.
Ukraine’s dramatic show of wartime unity and national strength is exceptionally inconvenient for Putin. In his increasingly unhinged attempts to justify his war, the Russian ruler has claimed to be fighting against a ragtag band of “fascists,” “Nazis,” and “drug addicts” who represent no one but their own interests and their “paymasters” in the West. As it turns out, Putin has declared war on a patriotic nation of more than 40 million people in a country the size of France.
His options are now all bad. He could still physically destroy Ukraine and commit a massive genocide against its inhabitants, but even the craziest of Russian imperialists would probably balk at the idea of what would be the most colossal atrocity in human history.
Putin may yet try to establish a puppet Ukrainian regime in Kyiv that would be happy to do his bidding, as intelligence reports have long predicted. However, that would mean occupying a huge country indefinitely. This would probably require around a million soldiers, all of whom would become targets of a Ukrainian resistance movement that would be sure to emerge.
Alternatively, Putin could try to work out some kind of deal with the current Ukrainian administration, but that would mean effectively admitting to his inner circle if not to the Russian people that his bloody enterprise had actually achieved nothing that negotiations could not have produced at far smaller cost.