So very sorry Republicans Putin gambled and lost

[bripat9643]

Those are two words you never see together: Bripat and clever.

Man, you are on a roll!

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The Ukraine invasion is a European problem.

The problem is Europe keeps getting into problems and the US has to solve them.

See WW1 and WW2

 

[Hossfly]

Listen no one is falling for your pathetic attempts at gaslighting. If you are too weak kneed to acknowledge the reality that Trump and Trumpers have supported Putin in the past, you are beyond having a rational conversation with.

I don't know any Trumpers here who support Pootin. He's a KGB thug who deserves a bullet between his beady little eyes.

 

[Leo123]

Yes it does Americas enemy attacking a country for no reasons and you're silent???

Putin has his reasons and those reasons are evil. Ignoring the enemy's 'reasons' is a prescription for losing. Trump understood Putin and that is why he didn't move during Trump's Presidency. Biden is completely clueless which he exhibited by cutting fuel production in the U.S. which emboldened Putin.

 

[JLW]

I don't know any Trumpers here who support Pootin. He's a KGB thug who deserves a bullet between his beady little eyes.

I agree with you about Putin. There were plenty of Trumpers on this board who had kind words for Putin. However, I do give credit to those who came around to condeming Putin. The problem I have is when these same folks try to gaslight about their past positions.

 

[Leo123]

I don't know any Trumpers here who support Pootin. He's a KGB thug who deserves a bullet between his beady little eyes.

We understand who Putin is, the lefties think that amounts to liking Putin, they are so clueless.

 

[Leo123]

I agree with you about Putin. There were plenty of Trumpers on this board who has kind words for Putin. However, I do give credit to those that came around to condeming Putin. The problem I have is when they try to gaslight about their past positions.

Who on this board has had 'kind words' for Putin?

 

[JLW]

Who on this board has had 'kind words' for Putin?

Plenty.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Putin's a leftist. He's one of yours. This mindless screeching that conservatives support him is just stupid.

This is as ignorant as it is wrong.

Putin’s contempt for democracy, advocacy for authoritarianism, and propensity for war renders him typical of the neo-fascist right.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

‘Ukraine’s dramatic show of wartime unity and national strength is exceptionally inconvenient for Putin. In his increasingly unhinged attempts to justify his war, the Russian ruler has claimed to be fighting against a ragtag band of “fascists,” “Nazis,” and “drug addicts” who represent no one but their own interests and their “paymasters” in the West. As it turns out, Putin has declared war on a patriotic nation of more than 40 million people in a country the size of France.’ ibid

American conservatives are just as unhinged as Putin in their defense of the Russian tyrant and warmonger.

 

[JLW]

We understand who Putin is, the lefties think that amounts to liking Putin, they are so clueless.

Trump and your ilk are selling these T-shirts.

Doesn’t seem to me like you Trumpers were condemning Putin to me.

 

[Rigby5]

The problem is Europe keeps getting into problems and the US has to solve them.

See WW1 and WW2

The US involvement only made things worse.
We should never have been dragged into those illegal wars.
Remember, the Allies started WWI by assassinating Archduke Ferdinand and his wife, and France illegal started it by invading Bavaria.
That means the US sided with the criminals.

 

[bodecea]

Putin's a leftist. He's one of yours. This mindless screeching that conservatives support him is just stupid.

Such drivel...lol

 

[Lastamender]

Idiot OP assumes that Republicans, in general, supported Putin.

Just because we didn't root for one side in a war on the other side of the world, which doesn't involve us, does not mean that we were rooting for the other side either.

They would have to finally think something through to know what you said is true. Not much of a chance of that happening.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

American conservatives are just as unhinged as Putin in their defense of the Russian tyrant and warmonger.

Which American conservatives are defending Putin?

 

[Calypso Jones]

The right supports freedom or at least conservatives do....so why is the left supporting freedom?? When clearly they want to remove our 2nd amendment, right to free speech, right to protest peacefully, due process. And with topics like this one, accusing the right of NOT supporting freedom, makes me wonder........

I found this also. Note in particular the highlighted information.

Zelenskyy grew up in Kryvyi Rih, a Russian-speaking region in southeastern Ukraine.[5] Prior to his acting career, Zelenskyy obtained a degree in law from the Kyiv National Economic University. He then pursued comedy and created the production company Kvartal 95, which produces films, cartoons, and TV shows including Servant of the People, in which Zelenskyy played the role of president of Ukraine. The series aired from 2015 to 2019 and was immensely popular. A political party bearing the same name as the television show was created in March 2018 by employees of Kvartal 95.

Zelenskyy announced his candidacy for the 2019 Ukrainian presidential election on the evening of 31 December 2018, alongside the New Year's Eve address of President Petro Poroshenko on 1+1 TV Channel. A political outsider, he had already become one of the frontrunners in opinion polls for the election. He won the election with 73.2 per cent of the vote in the second round, defeating Poroshenko. Identifying as a populist, he has positioned himself as an anti-establishment, anti-corruption figure.

As president, Zelenskyy has been a proponent of e-government and unity between the Ukrainian-speaking and Russian-speaking parts of the country's population.[6] His communication style heavily utilises social media, particularly Instagram.[7] His party won a landslide victory in a snap legislative election held shortly after his inauguration as president. During his administration, Zelenskyy oversaw the lifting of legal immunity for members of the Verkhovna Rada, Ukraine's parliament,[8] the country's response to the COVID-19 pandemic and subsequent economic recession, and some progress in tackling corruption.[9][10]Critics of Zelenskyy claim that in taking power away from the Ukrainian oligarchs, he has sought to centralise authority and strengthen his personal position.[11]

Zelenskyy promised to end Ukraine's protracted conflict with Russia as part of his presidential campaign, and attempted to engage in dialogue with Russian President Vladimir Putin.[12] Zelenskyy's administration faced an escalation of tensions with Russia in 2021, culminating in the launch of an ongoing full-scale Russian invasion in February 2022. Zelenskyy's strategy during the Russian military buildup was to calm the Ukrainian populace and assure the international community that Ukraine was not seeking to retaliate.[13] He initially distanced himself from warnings of an imminent war, while also calling for security guarantees and military support from NATO to "withstand" the threat.[5] After the commencement of the invasion, Zelenskyy declared martial law across Ukraine and general mobilisation.

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[SassyIrishLass]

The US involvement only made things worse.
We should never have been dragged into those illegal wars.
Remember, the Allies started WWI by assassinating Archduke Ferdinand and his wife, and France illegal started it by invading Bavaria.
That means the US sided with the criminals.

You're history is questionable

 

[Rigby5]

‘Ukraine’s dramatic show of wartime unity and national strength is exceptionally inconvenient for Putin. In his increasingly unhinged attempts to justify his war, the Russian ruler has claimed to be fighting against a ragtag band of “fascists,” “Nazis,” and “drug addicts” who represent no one but their own interests and their “paymasters” in the West. As it turns out, Putin has declared war on a patriotic nation of more than 40 million people in a country the size of France.’ ibid

American conservatives are just as unhinged as Putin in their defense of the Russian tyrant and warmonger.

Wrong.
Putin is irrelevant.
The facts are the population of the east, like Donetsk and Crimea are like 93% Russian, have always been Russian, and historically these provinces always belonged to Russia for over 1000 years, until some secret deal by Khrushchev in 1955.
So the Ukraine is violating the principles of self determination, and is therefore in the wrong.

The Ukraine also was convicted of stealing over $20 billion of Russian gas and oil.

The Ukraine also collaborated with Hitler and ran the death camps.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Which American conservatives are defending Putin?

They keep sqauwking but really can't say

 

[Doc7505]

Ukraine War: Vladimir Putin has gambled everything and lost

Ukraine War: Vladimir Putin has gambled everything and lost​

Until Vladimir Putin lunched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in the early hours of February 24, he was winning his standoff with the West. He had compelled the United States and Europe to take his demands seriously; he experienced the pleasure of being treated as the leader of a great power; and he had succeeded in intimidating the Ukrainians as well as Russia’s other neighboring states and the wider world.

All he had to do to solidify his victory was to recognize the independence of the so-called separatist republics in the Donbas, acknowledge that Ukraine’s chances of joining NATO were nil, and continue his creeping subversion of Ukraine in the expectation that, sooner or later, it would drift back into Russia’s orbit.

And then he blew it all by invading Ukraine.

Overnight, Russia became a pariah state. The West has already imposed an expanding range of sanctions with more expected. International opinion has almost unanimously condemned Putin’s war of aggression, and thousands of his own citizens have expressed their opposition to the war in demonstrations and petitions.

Most importantly, Ukrainians have fought back, fiercely. This was something Putin probably did not expect. In his initial announcement of a “special military operation,” Putin called on Ukrainian soldiers to lay down their arms, not out of concern for their lives, but because he truly believed they would be happy to do so. But they weren’t and they didn’t. Instead, they have inflicted punishing losses on his invasion force and have inspired the watching world with their courage.

Now the supposed chess grandmaster Putin has effectively maneuvered himself into an unwinnable position. Ukrainians throughout the entire country, regardless of the language they prefer to speak, their religion or ethnic background, have rallied around the flag. Tens of thousands have volunteered for territorial defense units. Many more have donated blood. Untold others have handed over their savings to help finance the defense of the country. An historic wave of patriotic fervor has gripped Ukraine.

The Ukrainian nation has been joined by diaspora Ukrainians, who are now busy staging rallies and fundraising for their homeland. All these Ukrainians now consider themselves part of a modern Ukrainian nation that is as diverse as it is united in its opposition to Putin and everything he stands for: namely dictatorship and vassalage. Ukrainians have demonstrated that they love their country, despite all its extant faults, and that they are willing to sacrifice greatly for it.

Ukraine’s dramatic show of wartime unity and national strength is exceptionally inconvenient for Putin. In his increasingly unhinged attempts to justify his war, the Russian ruler has claimed to be fighting against a ragtag band of “fascists,” “Nazis,” and “drug addicts” who represent no one but their own interests and their “paymasters” in the West. As it turns out, Putin has declared war on a patriotic nation of more than 40 million people in a country the size of France.

His options are now all bad. He could still physically destroy Ukraine and commit a massive genocide against its inhabitants, but even the craziest of Russian imperialists would probably balk at the idea of what would be the most colossal atrocity in human history.

Putin may yet try to establish a puppet Ukrainian regime in Kyiv that would be happy to do his bidding, as intelligence reports have long predicted. However, that would mean occupying a huge country indefinitely. This would probably require around a million soldiers, all of whom would become targets of a Ukrainian resistance movement that would be sure to emerge.

Alternatively, Putin could try to work out some kind of deal with the current Ukrainian administration, but that would mean effectively admitting to his inner circle if not to the Russian people that his bloody enterprise had actually achieved nothing that negotiations could not have produced at far smaller cost.

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Putin misjudged the feckless and incompetent Joey Xi Bai Dung. In the end this will come to hurt both Putin and Joey Xi.
It may also bring both of them down.