So Liberals.

[LadyGunSlinger]

Dumbass liberals have already seen how destructive a mandatory minimum wage increase is with the first few rolled out by Governor Dickhead in California... Let the market set the rate .. it's called CAPITALISM, a dirty word for liberals.

 

[WillowTree]

let's discuss your platform! As I understand it you want a $15.00 per hr minimum wage. Guaranteed time off. Who will pay for this? You also want affordable college for all, and child care for working families. Who will pay for this?And single payer? Who will pay for this? From where will the revenue come? Please answer civilly and seriously. And, if you feel inclined explain how college tuition became unaffordable.

Is any of this actually in the platform? The $15 minimum wage isn't. It was voted down. Where are your getting your info?

From watching the speakers at the DNC.

 

[NYcarbineer]

let's discuss your platform! As I understand it you want a $15.00 per hr minimum wage. Guaranteed time off. Who will pay for this?

You also want affordable college for all, and child care for working families. Who will pay for this?
And single payer? Who will pay for this?



From where will the revenue come?



Please answer civilly and seriously. And, if you feel inclined explain how college tuition became unaffordable.

If you cared you'd go read the Bernie Sanders plan for tuition free state college,

because his plan includes the plan to pay for it.

 

[WillowTree]

let's discuss your platform! As I understand it you want a $15.00 per hr minimum wage. Guaranteed time off. Who will pay for this? You also want affordable college for all, and child care for working families. Who will pay for this?And single payer? Who will pay for this? From where will the revenue come? Please answer civilly and seriously. And, if you feel inclined explain how college tuition became unaffordable.

Is any of this actually in the platform? The $15 minimum wage isn't. It was voted down. Where are your getting your info?

https://www.demconvention.com/wp-co...emocratic-Party-Platform-7.21.16-no-lines.pdf



Democrats believe that the current minimum wage is a starvation wage and must be increased to a living wage. No one who works full time should have to raise a family in poverty. We believe that Americans should earn at least $15 an hour and have the right to form or join a union and will work in every way we can—in Congress and the federal government, in states and with the private sector—to reach this goal. We should raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour

 

[konradv]

let's discuss your platform! As I understand it you want a $15.00 per hr minimum wage. Guaranteed time off. Who will pay for this? You also want affordable college for all, and child care for working families. Who will pay for this?And single payer? Who will pay for this? From where will the revenue come? Please answer civilly and seriously. And, if you feel inclined explain how college tuition became unaffordable.

Is any of this actually in the platform? The $15 minimum wage isn't. It was voted down. Where are your getting your info?

https://www.demconvention.com/wp-co...emocratic-Party-Platform-7.21.16-no-lines.pdf Democrats believe that the current minimum wage is a starvation wage and must be increased to a living wage. No one who works full time should have to raise a family in poverty. We believe that Americans should earn at least $15 an hour and have the right to form or join a union and will work in every way we can—in Congress and the federal government, in states and with the private sector—to reach this goal. We should raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour

It's a pledge to raise the minmum wage over time, not a demand for an immediate increase.

 

[WillowTree]

let's discuss your platform! As I understand it you want a $15.00 per hr minimum wage. Guaranteed time off. Who will pay for this? You also want affordable college for all, and child care for working families. Who will pay for this?And single payer? Who will pay for this? From where will the revenue come? Please answer civilly and seriously. And, if you feel inclined explain how college tuition became unaffordable.

Is any of this actually in the platform? The $15 minimum wage isn't. It was voted down. Where are your getting your info?

https://www.demconvention.com/wp-co...emocratic-Party-Platform-7.21.16-no-lines.pdf Democrats believe that the current minimum wage is a starvation wage and must be increased to a living wage. No one who works full time should have to raise a family in poverty. We believe that Americans should earn at least $15 an hour and have the right to form or join a union and will work in every way we can—in Congress and the federal government, in states and with the private sector—to reach this goal. We should raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour

It's a pledge to raise the minmum wage over time, not a demand for an immediate increase.

So a 15 dollar an hour min wage is in their platform. Now! The question was who is going to pay for that?

 

[Care4all]

well, the $15 an hour minimum wage would be years out, and those who buy the products minimum wagers produce would pay....just like when all other business expenses rise in cost...they are prorated and spread out in to the retail of their products sold.

College, I have no idea how that would be funded initially, but in the long term, higher paying jobs will get the gvt's money back in to the coffers via their higher salaries with higher taxes collected on the higher salaries...

Pay for maternity leave for the mother, is provided by most companies now, but for small businesses, the gvt would have to come in and help these small businesses...pay for it. This would not amount to much...because we only have about 4 / 5 million women each year having babies, not all of them work for small businesses that can not afford the leave with pay benefit...for our gvt taxes to come in and pay for them.

The problem with the 15 buck an hour minimum is all it accomplishes is to cause inflation. It really does nothing else. Those who actually have skills will complain that they are being paid minimum wage, so they demand higher wages (naturally, and logically) which causes all of the things that they produce to increase in price and you are right back where you started at. Only the actual money is worth less. In other a lot of glad handing feel good legislation that accomplishes nothing.

Furthermore as you force employers to pay untrained people more, you eventually get to the point where robotics makes more sense. They don't go on strike, they actually work, on time, and without personal animosity. More and more you are going to see this happen. As far as the wall go's the reason why I am for it is to drive the illegals back home where they can have the revolution that Mexico has needed for the last 100 years. Right now illegal aliens cause a two tier wage system to be created. That keeps ALL wages artificially low which hurts all Americans, especially the middle class.

What most progressives who want free college for everyone don't seem to know is even in Europe that is not a true policy. In Germany, and most of the European countries you take a test in Middle School, the results of that test determine if you even GET to go to college. Score low and college is never even a possibility.

1) $15 Minimum wage....yes, there are very few minimum wage workers, so the cost of this alone would NOT cause inflation, but as you mentioned, the surrounding jobs paying that amount now for skilled workers would have to pay their skilled workers more and the highly skilled more and so on and so forth...

but THE MINIMUM kept artificially LOW due to the minimum wage being kept so low and not rising at the same level as inflation is the main reason why ALL working Americans have not seen a rise in income compared to inflation/the cost of living....the businesses take what the minimum is, then pay their skilled worker a certain percentage above that depending on their skills....so by keeping the minimum low, they can keep the skilled worker's pay, comparably low...and THIS hurts every one of us in the middle class and has been hurting us for decades now.

As far as inflation...employee pay is only one expense for the business, just a portion of their expenses for what determines the retail price of the product to the consumer...and as with the cost of goods when they rise, the retail and what we pay will rise somewhat...depending on what is being sold, and whether material goods or services, etc and what prices workers are being paid now for the goods or service.... not all goods or services will be affected... and as with all things that make their costs rise, the business will try to cut expenses and become more efficient in other areas before raising the price when faced with crisis as these... they become better business people...they dot more eyes and cross more tees to help cover the unexpected expense...

Will that lead to more robots sooner? Maybe? But we are heading that way regardless of the minimum wage...

 

[Disir]

let's discuss your platform! As I understand it you want a $15.00 per hr minimum wage. Guaranteed time off. Who will pay for this?

You also want affordable college for all, and child care for working families. Who will pay for this?
And single payer? Who will pay for this?



From where will the revenue come?



Please answer civilly and seriously. And, if you feel inclined explain how college tuition became unaffordable.

Sure. I'm a liberal and I'll be happy to discuss the Democrat platform. It's not binding.

Bam! How do you like them apples?

Bunch of shit o'er nothing. But, hey that is the Democrats for ya.

 

[WillowTree]

well, the $15 an hour minimum wage would be years out, and those who buy the products minimum wagers produce would pay....just like when all other business expenses rise in cost...they are prorated and spread out in to the retail of their products sold.

College, I have no idea how that would be funded initially, but in the long term, higher paying jobs will get the gvt's money back in to the coffers via their higher salaries with higher taxes collected on the higher salaries...

Pay for maternity leave for the mother, is provided by most companies now, but for small businesses, the gvt would have to come in and help these small businesses...pay for it. This would not amount to much...because we only have about 4 / 5 million women each year having babies, not all of them work for small businesses that can not afford the leave with pay benefit...for our gvt taxes to come in and pay for them.

One of the best ways to curb costs is to do more with less. There will be less job




The problem with the 15 buck an hour minimum is all it accomplishes is to cause inflation. It really does nothing else. Those who actually have skills will complain that they are being paid minimum wage, so they demand higher wages (naturally, and logically) which causes all of the things that they produce to increase in price and you are right back where you started at. Only the actual money is worth less. In other a lot of glad handing feel good legislation that accomplishes nothing.

Furthermore as you force employers to pay untrained people more, you eventually get to the point where robotics makes more sense. They don't go on strike, they actually work, on time, and without personal animosity. More and more you are going to see this happen. As far as the wall go's the reason why I am for it is to drive the illegals back home where they can have the revolution that Mexico has needed for the last 100 years. Right now illegal aliens cause a two tier wage system to be created. That keeps ALL wages artificially low which hurts all Americans, especially the middle class.

What most progressives who want free college for everyone don't seem to know is even in Europe that is not a true policy. In Germany, and most of the European countries you take a test in Middle School, the results of that test determine if you even GET to go to college. Score low and college is never even a possibility.

1) $15 Minimum wage....yes, there are very few minimum wage workers, so the cost of this alone would NOT cause inflation, but as you mentioned, the surrounding jobs paying that amount now for skilled workers would have to pay their skilled workers more and the highly skilled more and so on and so forth...

but THE MINIMUM kept artificially LOW due to the minimum wage being kept so low and not rising at the same level as inflation is the main reason why ALL working Americans have not seen a rise in income compared to inflation/the cost of living....the businesses take what the minimum is, then pay their skilled worker a certain percentage above that depending on their skills....so by keeping the minimum low, they can keep the skilled worker's pay, comparably low...and THIS hurts every one of us in the middle class and has been hurting us for decades now.

As far as inflation...employee pay is only one expense for the business, just a portion of their expenses for what determines the retail price of the product to the consumer...and as with the cost of goods when they rise, the retail and what we pay will rise somewhat...depending on what is being sold, and whether material goods or services, etc and what prices workers are being paid now for the goods or service.... not all goods or services will be affected... and as with all things that make their costs rise, the business will try to cut expenses and become more efficient in other areas before raising the price when faced with crisis as these... they become better business people...they dot more eyes and cross more tees to help cover the unexpected expense...

Will that lead to more robots sooner? Maybe? But we are heading that way regardless of the minimum wage...

let's discuss your platform! As I understand it you want a $15.00 per hr minimum wage. Guaranteed time off. Who will pay for this?

You also want affordable college for all, and child care for working families. Who will pay for this?
And single payer? Who will pay for this?



From where will the revenue come?



Please answer civilly and seriously. And, if you feel inclined explain how college tuition became unaffordable.

Sure. I'm a liberal and I'll be happy to discuss the Democrat platform. It's not binding.

Bam! How do you like them apples?

Bunch of shit o'er nothing. But, hey that is the Democrats for ya.

so who will pay for this platform?

 

[Seawytch]

let's discuss your platform! As I understand it you want a $15.00 per hr minimum wage. Guaranteed time off. Who will pay for this? You also want affordable college for all, and child care for working families. Who will pay for this?And single payer? Who will pay for this? From where will the revenue come? Please answer civilly and seriously. And, if you feel inclined explain how college tuition became unaffordable.

Is any of this actually in the platform? The $15 minimum wage isn't. It was voted down. Where are your getting your info?

https://www.demconvention.com/wp-co...emocratic-Party-Platform-7.21.16-no-lines.pdf Democrats believe that the current minimum wage is a starvation wage and must be increased to a living wage. No one who works full time should have to raise a family in poverty. We believe that Americans should earn at least $15 an hour and have the right to form or join a union and will work in every way we can—in Congress and the federal government, in states and with the private sector—to reach this goal. We should raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour

It's a pledge to raise the minmum wage over time, not a demand for an immediate increase.

So a 15 dollar an hour min wage is in their platform. Now! The question was who is going to pay for that?

The people not paying a living wage...like Walmart.

Why Walmart Can Afford to Pay Its Workers Much More
Two new analyses show the retail giant can afford to stop shortchanging its workers.

 

[Disir]

well, the $15 an hour minimum wage would be years out, and those who buy the products minimum wagers produce would pay....just like when all other business expenses rise in cost...they are prorated and spread out in to the retail of their products sold.

College, I have no idea how that would be funded initially, but in the long term, higher paying jobs will get the gvt's money back in to the coffers via their higher salaries with higher taxes collected on the higher salaries...

Pay for maternity leave for the mother, is provided by most companies now, but for small businesses, the gvt would have to come in and help these small businesses...pay for it. This would not amount to much...because we only have about 4 / 5 million women each year having babies, not all of them work for small businesses that can not afford the leave with pay benefit...for our gvt taxes to come in and pay for them.

One of the best ways to curb costs is to do more with less. There will be less job




The problem with the 15 buck an hour minimum is all it accomplishes is to cause inflation. It really does nothing else. Those who actually have skills will complain that they are being paid minimum wage, so they demand higher wages (naturally, and logically) which causes all of the things that they produce to increase in price and you are right back where you started at. Only the actual money is worth less. In other a lot of glad handing feel good legislation that accomplishes nothing.

Furthermore as you force employers to pay untrained people more, you eventually get to the point where robotics makes more sense. They don't go on strike, they actually work, on time, and without personal animosity. More and more you are going to see this happen. As far as the wall go's the reason why I am for it is to drive the illegals back home where they can have the revolution that Mexico has needed for the last 100 years. Right now illegal aliens cause a two tier wage system to be created. That keeps ALL wages artificially low which hurts all Americans, especially the middle class.

What most progressives who want free college for everyone don't seem to know is even in Europe that is not a true policy. In Germany, and most of the European countries you take a test in Middle School, the results of that test determine if you even GET to go to college. Score low and college is never even a possibility.

1) $15 Minimum wage....yes, there are very few minimum wage workers, so the cost of this alone would NOT cause inflation, but as you mentioned, the surrounding jobs paying that amount now for skilled workers would have to pay their skilled workers more and the highly skilled more and so on and so forth...

but THE MINIMUM kept artificially LOW due to the minimum wage being kept so low and not rising at the same level as inflation is the main reason why ALL working Americans have not seen a rise in income compared to inflation/the cost of living....the businesses take what the minimum is, then pay their skilled worker a certain percentage above that depending on their skills....so by keeping the minimum low, they can keep the skilled worker's pay, comparably low...and THIS hurts every one of us in the middle class and has been hurting us for decades now.

As far as inflation...employee pay is only one expense for the business, just a portion of their expenses for what determines the retail price of the product to the consumer...and as with the cost of goods when they rise, the retail and what we pay will rise somewhat...depending on what is being sold, and whether material goods or services, etc and what prices workers are being paid now for the goods or service.... not all goods or services will be affected... and as with all things that make their costs rise, the business will try to cut expenses and become more efficient in other areas before raising the price when faced with crisis as these... they become better business people...they dot more eyes and cross more tees to help cover the unexpected expense...

Will that lead to more robots sooner? Maybe? But we are heading that way regardless of the minimum wage...

let's discuss your platform! As I understand it you want a $15.00 per hr minimum wage. Guaranteed time off. Who will pay for this?

You also want affordable college for all, and child care for working families. Who will pay for this?
And single payer? Who will pay for this?



From where will the revenue come?



Please answer civilly and seriously. And, if you feel inclined explain how college tuition became unaffordable.

Sure. I'm a liberal and I'll be happy to discuss the Democrat platform. It's not binding.

Bam! How do you like them apples?

Bunch of shit o'er nothing. But, hey that is the Democrats for ya.

so who will pay for this platform?

Bullshit's free. There might be a feel good effort but it won't pass and it will be YOUR fault. The Democrats of course will be held hostage by your evil ways.

But, let's pretend for a minute. I'm already paying via taxes in state aid. It's called pay your employees.

 

[Disir]

Here is a good one:
Hillary Clinton Received a Massive Donation From Walmart Heiress
Hillary Clinton’s campaign finance records show the wealthy Walmart heiress, Alice Walton, donated $353,400 to Clinton’s “Victory Fund.” The six-figure donation contrasts Clinton’s campaign messaging as a workers’ ally. Walmart stands out for its oppressive labor practices and corporate greed behavior. Before that Alice Walton contributed $25,000 to the Ready for Hillary political action committee.

Forbes estimates that despite Walmart being one of the wealthiest corporations in history, the company costs taxpayers roughly $6.2 billion per year due to substandard wages. As a result, many workers depend on public assistance to meet basic needs.


The odds of a non-binding platform changing things.............

 

[WillowTree]

well, the $15 an hour minimum wage would be years out, and those who buy the products minimum wagers produce would pay....just like when all other business expenses rise in cost...they are prorated and spread out in to the retail of their products sold.

College, I have no idea how that would be funded initially, but in the long term, higher paying jobs will get the gvt's money back in to the coffers via their higher salaries with higher taxes collected on the higher salaries...

Pay for maternity leave for the mother, is provided by most companies now, but for small businesses, the gvt would have to come in and help these small businesses...pay for it. This would not amount to much...because we only have about 4 / 5 million women each year having babies, not all of them work for small businesses that can not afford the leave with pay benefit...for our gvt taxes to come in and pay for them.

One of the best ways to curb costs is to do more with less. There will be less job




The problem with the 15 buck an hour minimum is all it accomplishes is to cause inflation. It really does nothing else. Those who actually have skills will complain that they are being paid minimum wage, so they demand higher wages (naturally, and logically) which causes all of the things that they produce to increase in price and you are right back where you started at. Only the actual money is worth less. In other a lot of glad handing feel good legislation that accomplishes nothing.

Furthermore as you force employers to pay untrained people more, you eventually get to the point where robotics makes more sense. They don't go on strike, they actually work, on time, and without personal animosity. More and more you are going to see this happen. As far as the wall go's the reason why I am for it is to drive the illegals back home where they can have the revolution that Mexico has needed for the last 100 years. Right now illegal aliens cause a two tier wage system to be created. That keeps ALL wages artificially low which hurts all Americans, especially the middle class.

What most progressives who want free college for everyone don't seem to know is even in Europe that is not a true policy. In Germany, and most of the European countries you take a test in Middle School, the results of that test determine if you even GET to go to college. Score low and college is never even a possibility.

1) $15 Minimum wage....yes, there are very few minimum wage workers, so the cost of this alone would NOT cause inflation, but as you mentioned, the surrounding jobs paying that amount now for skilled workers would have to pay their skilled workers more and the highly skilled more and so on and so forth...

but THE MINIMUM kept artificially LOW due to the minimum wage being kept so low and not rising at the same level as inflation is the main reason why ALL working Americans have not seen a rise in income compared to inflation/the cost of living....the businesses take what the minimum is, then pay their skilled worker a certain percentage above that depending on their skills....so by keeping the minimum low, they can keep the skilled worker's pay, comparably low...and THIS hurts every one of us in the middle class and has been hurting us for decades now.

As far as inflation...employee pay is only one expense for the business, just a portion of their expenses for what determines the retail price of the product to the consumer...and as with the cost of goods when they rise, the retail and what we pay will rise somewhat...depending on what is being sold, and whether material goods or services, etc and what prices workers are being paid now for the goods or service.... not all goods or services will be affected... and as with all things that make their costs rise, the business will try to cut expenses and become more efficient in other areas before raising the price when faced with crisis as these... they become better business people...they dot more eyes and cross more tees to help cover the unexpected expense...

Will that lead to more robots sooner? Maybe? But we are heading that way regardless of the minimum wage...

let's discuss your platform! As I understand it you want a $15.00 per hr minimum wage. Guaranteed time off. Who will pay for this?

You also want affordable college for all, and child care for working families. Who will pay for this?
And single payer? Who will pay for this?



From where will the revenue come?



Please answer civilly and seriously. And, if you feel inclined explain how college tuition became unaffordable.

Sure. I'm a liberal and I'll be happy to discuss the Democrat platform. It's not binding.

Bam! How do you like them apples?

Bunch of shit o'er nothing. But, hey that is the Democrats for ya.

so who will pay for this platform?

Bullshit's free. There might be a feel good effort but it won't pass and it will be YOUR fault. The Democrats of course will be held hostage by your evil ways.

But, let's pretend for a minute. I'm already paying via taxes in state aid. It's called pay your employees.

So you don't want what is represented in the socialist democrat platform?

 

[WillowTree]

let's discuss your platform! As I understand it you want a $15.00 per hr minimum wage. Guaranteed time off. Who will pay for this? You also want affordable college for all, and child care for working families. Who will pay for this?And single payer? Who will pay for this? From where will the revenue come? Please answer civilly and seriously. And, if you feel inclined explain how college tuition became unaffordable.

Is any of this actually in the platform? The $15 minimum wage isn't. It was voted down. Where are your getting your info?

https://www.demconvention.com/wp-co...emocratic-Party-Platform-7.21.16-no-lines.pdf Democrats believe that the current minimum wage is a starvation wage and must be increased to a living wage. No one who works full time should have to raise a family in poverty. We believe that Americans should earn at least $15 an hour and have the right to form or join a union and will work in every way we can—in Congress and the federal government, in states and with the private sector—to reach this goal. We should raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour

It's a pledge to raise the minmum wage over time, not a demand for an immediate increase.

So a 15 dollar an hour min wage is in their platform. Now! The question was who is going to pay for that?

The people not paying a living wage...like Walmart.

Why Walmart Can Afford to Pay Its Workers Much More
Two new analyses show the retail giant can afford to stop shortchanging its workers.

So if you put Wal Mart out of business where will the people work?

 

[Disir]

well, the $15 an hour minimum wage would be years out, and those who buy the products minimum wagers produce would pay....just like when all other business expenses rise in cost...they are prorated and spread out in to the retail of their products sold.

College, I have no idea how that would be funded initially, but in the long term, higher paying jobs will get the gvt's money back in to the coffers via their higher salaries with higher taxes collected on the higher salaries...

Pay for maternity leave for the mother, is provided by most companies now, but for small businesses, the gvt would have to come in and help these small businesses...pay for it. This would not amount to much...because we only have about 4 / 5 million women each year having babies, not all of them work for small businesses that can not afford the leave with pay benefit...for our gvt taxes to come in and pay for them.

One of the best ways to curb costs is to do more with less. There will be less job




The problem with the 15 buck an hour minimum is all it accomplishes is to cause inflation. It really does nothing else. Those who actually have skills will complain that they are being paid minimum wage, so they demand higher wages (naturally, and logically) which causes all of the things that they produce to increase in price and you are right back where you started at. Only the actual money is worth less. In other a lot of glad handing feel good legislation that accomplishes nothing.

Furthermore as you force employers to pay untrained people more, you eventually get to the point where robotics makes more sense. They don't go on strike, they actually work, on time, and without personal animosity. More and more you are going to see this happen. As far as the wall go's the reason why I am for it is to drive the illegals back home where they can have the revolution that Mexico has needed for the last 100 years. Right now illegal aliens cause a two tier wage system to be created. That keeps ALL wages artificially low which hurts all Americans, especially the middle class.

What most progressives who want free college for everyone don't seem to know is even in Europe that is not a true policy. In Germany, and most of the European countries you take a test in Middle School, the results of that test determine if you even GET to go to college. Score low and college is never even a possibility.

1) $15 Minimum wage....yes, there are very few minimum wage workers, so the cost of this alone would NOT cause inflation, but as you mentioned, the surrounding jobs paying that amount now for skilled workers would have to pay their skilled workers more and the highly skilled more and so on and so forth...

but THE MINIMUM kept artificially LOW due to the minimum wage being kept so low and not rising at the same level as inflation is the main reason why ALL working Americans have not seen a rise in income compared to inflation/the cost of living....the businesses take what the minimum is, then pay their skilled worker a certain percentage above that depending on their skills....so by keeping the minimum low, they can keep the skilled worker's pay, comparably low...and THIS hurts every one of us in the middle class and has been hurting us for decades now.

As far as inflation...employee pay is only one expense for the business, just a portion of their expenses for what determines the retail price of the product to the consumer...and as with the cost of goods when they rise, the retail and what we pay will rise somewhat...depending on what is being sold, and whether material goods or services, etc and what prices workers are being paid now for the goods or service.... not all goods or services will be affected... and as with all things that make their costs rise, the business will try to cut expenses and become more efficient in other areas before raising the price when faced with crisis as these... they become better business people...they dot more eyes and cross more tees to help cover the unexpected expense...

Will that lead to more robots sooner? Maybe? But we are heading that way regardless of the minimum wage...

let's discuss your platform! As I understand it you want a $15.00 per hr minimum wage. Guaranteed time off. Who will pay for this?

You also want affordable college for all, and child care for working families. Who will pay for this?
And single payer? Who will pay for this?



From where will the revenue come?



Please answer civilly and seriously. And, if you feel inclined explain how college tuition became unaffordable.

Sure. I'm a liberal and I'll be happy to discuss the Democrat platform. It's not binding.

Bam! How do you like them apples?

Bunch of shit o'er nothing. But, hey that is the Democrats for ya.

so who will pay for this platform?

Bullshit's free. There might be a feel good effort but it won't pass and it will be YOUR fault. The Democrats of course will be held hostage by your evil ways.

But, let's pretend for a minute. I'm already paying via taxes in state aid. It's called pay your employees.

So you don't want what is represented in the socialist democrat platform?

I just call bullshit when I see it. Do you see in any of those figures Walmart treating their employees better? I do not. You as a tax payer will continue to subsidize Wal-Mart. Fuck a platform. It's meaningless.

 

[IsaacNewton]

let's discuss your platform! As I understand it you want a $15.00 per hr minimum wage. Guaranteed time off. Who will pay for this?

You also want affordable college for all, and child care for working families. Who will pay for this?
And single payer? Who will pay for this?



From where will the revenue come?



Please answer civilly and seriously. And, if you feel inclined explain how college tuition became unaffordable.

Who pays for the minimum wage employees get now? 7.25/hr. The company as part of their labor costs. Their labor costs will go up, just as the cost of produce, meat, gasoline, and electricity goes up. It's called part of doing business. Only a debauched scumbag has no problem with all other costs of doing business going up but labor costs, which actually affect other people's families in a big way, is supposed to be 'off limits'. All the companies that will be affected by a raise in minimum wage, have a look at how many have said they will stop handing out huge bonuses to 'management' because of it. NONE.

For college, the US is the richest nation in the history of the Earth by far, and we are now ranked about 25th among the nations of the world regarding education.

Educational Score Performance - Country Rankings

How exactly do all these other nations provide free college to their people but this backwards nation insists on digging the hole deeper as 25th isn't low enough, let's shoot for last place.

All things, commerce, industry, space tech, IT tech, food production, healthcare, energy solutions, all require highly educated people. We are positioning ourselves to lose all those battles in the future because those other countries understand educated people drive success on a national scale and they provide free college for their people.

It's time to get out of the 19th century conservatives. The 1880's aren't coming back.

 

[WillowTree]

One of the best ways to curb costs is to do more with less. There will be less job




The problem with the 15 buck an hour minimum is all it accomplishes is to cause inflation. It really does nothing else. Those who actually have skills will complain that they are being paid minimum wage, so they demand higher wages (naturally, and logically) which causes all of the things that they produce to increase in price and you are right back where you started at. Only the actual money is worth less. In other a lot of glad handing feel good legislation that accomplishes nothing.

Furthermore as you force employers to pay untrained people more, you eventually get to the point where robotics makes more sense. They don't go on strike, they actually work, on time, and without personal animosity. More and more you are going to see this happen. As far as the wall go's the reason why I am for it is to drive the illegals back home where they can have the revolution that Mexico has needed for the last 100 years. Right now illegal aliens cause a two tier wage system to be created. That keeps ALL wages artificially low which hurts all Americans, especially the middle class.

What most progressives who want free college for everyone don't seem to know is even in Europe that is not a true policy. In Germany, and most of the European countries you take a test in Middle School, the results of that test determine if you even GET to go to college. Score low and college is never even a possibility.

1) $15 Minimum wage....yes, there are very few minimum wage workers, so the cost of this alone would NOT cause inflation, but as you mentioned, the surrounding jobs paying that amount now for skilled workers would have to pay their skilled workers more and the highly skilled more and so on and so forth...

but THE MINIMUM kept artificially LOW due to the minimum wage being kept so low and not rising at the same level as inflation is the main reason why ALL working Americans have not seen a rise in income compared to inflation/the cost of living....the businesses take what the minimum is, then pay their skilled worker a certain percentage above that depending on their skills....so by keeping the minimum low, they can keep the skilled worker's pay, comparably low...and THIS hurts every one of us in the middle class and has been hurting us for decades now.

As far as inflation...employee pay is only one expense for the business, just a portion of their expenses for what determines the retail price of the product to the consumer...and as with the cost of goods when they rise, the retail and what we pay will rise somewhat...depending on what is being sold, and whether material goods or services, etc and what prices workers are being paid now for the goods or service.... not all goods or services will be affected... and as with all things that make their costs rise, the business will try to cut expenses and become more efficient in other areas before raising the price when faced with crisis as these... they become better business people...they dot more eyes and cross more tees to help cover the unexpected expense...

Will that lead to more robots sooner? Maybe? But we are heading that way regardless of the minimum wage...

let's discuss your platform! As I understand it you want a $15.00 per hr minimum wage. Guaranteed time off. Who will pay for this?

You also want affordable college for all, and child care for working families. Who will pay for this?
And single payer? Who will pay for this?



From where will the revenue come?



Please answer civilly and seriously. And, if you feel inclined explain how college tuition became unaffordable.

Sure. I'm a liberal and I'll be happy to discuss the Democrat platform. It's not binding.

Bam! How do you like them apples?

Bunch of shit o'er nothing. But, hey that is the Democrats for ya.

so who will pay for this platform?

Bullshit's free. There might be a feel good effort but it won't pass and it will be YOUR fault. The Democrats of course will be held hostage by your evil ways.

But, let's pretend for a minute. I'm already paying via taxes in state aid. It's called pay your employees.

So you don't want what is represented in the socialist democrat platform?

I just call bullshit when I see it. Do you see in any of those figures Walmart treating their employees better? I do not. You as a tax payer will continue to subsidize Wal-Mart. Fuck a platform. It's meaningless.

Really? Then why do they waste their time?

 

[WillowTree]

let's discuss your platform! As I understand it you want a $15.00 per hr minimum wage. Guaranteed time off. Who will pay for this?

You also want affordable college for all, and child care for working families. Who will pay for this?
And single payer? Who will pay for this?



From where will the revenue come?



Please answer civilly and seriously. And, if you feel inclined explain how college tuition became unaffordable.

Who pays for the minimum wage employees get now? 7.25/hr. The company as part of their labor costs. Their labor costs will go up, just as the cost of produce, meat, gasoline, and electricity goes up. It's called part of doing business. Only a debauched scumbag has no problem with all other costs of doing business going up but labor costs, which actually affect other people's families in a big way, is supposed to be 'off limits'. All the companies that will be affected by a raise in minimum wage, have a look at how many have said they will stop handing out huge bonuses to 'management' because of it. NONE.

For college, the US is the richest nation in the history of the Earth by far, and we are now ranked about 25th among the nations of the world regarding education.

Educational Score Performance - Country Rankings

How exactly do all these other nations provide free college to their people but this backwards nation insists on digging the hole deeper as 25th isn't low enough, let's shoot for last place.

All things, commerce, industry, space tech, IT tech, food production, healthcare, energy solutions, all require highly educated people. We are positioning ourselves to lose all those battles in the future because those other countries understand educated people drive success on a national scale and they provide free college for their people.

It's time to get out of the 19th century conservatives. The 1880's aren't coming back.

So? Who will pay for it?

 

[Seawytch]

Is any of this actually in the platform? The $15 minimum wage isn't. It was voted down. Where are your getting your info?

https://www.demconvention.com/wp-co...emocratic-Party-Platform-7.21.16-no-lines.pdf Democrats believe that the current minimum wage is a starvation wage and must be increased to a living wage. No one who works full time should have to raise a family in poverty. We believe that Americans should earn at least $15 an hour and have the right to form or join a union and will work in every way we can—in Congress and the federal government, in states and with the private sector—to reach this goal. We should raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour

It's a pledge to raise the minmum wage over time, not a demand for an immediate increase.

So a 15 dollar an hour min wage is in their platform. Now! The question was who is going to pay for that?

The people not paying a living wage...like Walmart.

Why Walmart Can Afford to Pay Its Workers Much More
Two new analyses show the retail giant can afford to stop shortchanging its workers.

So if you put Wal Mart out of business where will the people work?

Try reading the link, special one.

 

[WillowTree]

I have everything except how this agenda will be funded. Anyone?