So....how many posters do we have who have heard of this INCEL Movement?

[danielpalos]

any story teller can make up a story like that. what is so special about yours?

It is the Truth. In a discussion with you that is special.

lol. you make up stories, story teller.

i resort to the fewest fallacies, every time those of the opposing view, call me on it.

LMAO!! YOu still make that claim? That is hilarious. Funny, you have never been able to point to a single logical fallacy, and yet you claim I post them all the time.

lol. funny how you have nothing but fallacy instead of any valid arguments.

Thanks for proving my point.

thanks for proving mine as well.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Your version has you changing the unemployment compensation from a tax paid by businesses to a general tax, and has you collecting a check for nothing. That means my tax dollars are going to pay for your luxuries.

what does that mean for employers?

It means they lose the labor for which they gave you a check, and their taxes go up because you want money for luxuries without having to work for it.

it means they don't have to deal with wage-slave who Have to work and may litigate if he fires them.

They don't HAVE to work. They work if they want or need money.

How can they litigate in an at-will state?

he won't have to deal with them at all if they can simply apply for unemployment compensation instead.

that alone can save employers a lot of costs that would otherwise to court expenses.

It doesn't take long to see you for what you are.

advocating for equal protection of the law in our at-will employment States?

If you were advocating for equal protection, I would agree with you. You aren't.

that is Your story, story teller. equal protection of the law means labor can quit on an at-will basis and collect unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

No, it does not.

Yes, it does. that is what at-will means.

danielfailosbot=idiot.

 

[danielpalos]

why does capitalism have a natural rate of unemployment and why do we have any homelessness?

your understanding of economics, is nonsense.

Homelessness again? I thought you dropped that topic after I shredded your, so called, solutions.

What does your refusal to even TRY to get a job have to do with the natural unemployment rate?

lol. unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in our at-will employment State is a more economical solution.

lol, you're a loser, get a job.

lol. you are a bigger loser for having nothing but fallacy and always losing your arguments to me.

I don't think so. I have cash on hand, bills are paid, food in my fridge, and I could hire hookers if I wanted to.
Looking for something more permanent and less concerned about shopping for Prada. Pray for me.

all it takes is lucre not good arguments.

 

[danielpalos]

why does capitalism have a natural rate of unemployment and why do we have any homelessness?

your understanding of economics, is nonsense.

Homelessness again? I thought you dropped that topic after I shredded your, so called, solutions.

What does your refusal to even TRY to get a job have to do with the natural unemployment rate?

lol. unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in our at-will employment State is a more economical solution.

lol, you're a loser, get a job.

lol. you are a bigger loser for having nothing but fallacy and always losing your arguments to me.

Your claims of victory in these arguments is simply more proof of your delusions of adequacy.

yours are more fanciful, story teller.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Homelessness again? I thought you dropped that topic after I shredded your, so called, solutions.

What does your refusal to even TRY to get a job have to do with the natural unemployment rate?

lol. unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in our at-will employment State is a more economical solution.

lol, you're a loser, get a job.

lol. you are a bigger loser for having nothing but fallacy and always losing your arguments to me.

I don't think so. I have cash on hand, bills are paid, food in my fridge, and I could hire hookers if I wanted to.
Looking for something more permanent and less concerned about shopping for Prada. Pray for me.

all it takes is lucre not good arguments.

All it takes is get your ass a job, *****!
Don't make sic my girl from the hood on ya, she knows the importance of working.

 

[danielpalos]

what does that mean for employers?

It means they lose the labor for which they gave you a check, and their taxes go up because you want money for luxuries without having to work for it.

it means they don't have to deal with wage-slave who Have to work and may litigate if he fires them.

They don't HAVE to work. They work if they want or need money.

How can they litigate in an at-will state?

he won't have to deal with them at all if they can simply apply for unemployment compensation instead.

that alone can save employers a lot of costs that would otherwise to court expenses.

advocating for equal protection of the law in our at-will employment States?

If you were advocating for equal protection, I would agree with you. You aren't.

that is Your story, story teller. equal protection of the law means labor can quit on an at-will basis and collect unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

No, it does not.

Yes, it does. that is what at-will means.

danielfailosbot=idiot.

you first, fuller of fallacy.

 

[danielpalos]

lol. unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in our at-will employment State is a more economical solution.

lol, you're a loser, get a job.

lol. you are a bigger loser for having nothing but fallacy and always losing your arguments to me.

I don't think so. I have cash on hand, bills are paid, food in my fridge, and I could hire hookers if I wanted to.
Looking for something more permanent and less concerned about shopping for Prada. Pray for me.

all it takes is lucre not good arguments.

All it takes is get your ass a job, *****!

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment.

all it takes is Ten simple Commandment from a God, not the Expense of Government.

why should i believe any thing You say, immoral false witness bearer?

 

[Marion Morrison]

lol, you're a loser, get a job.

lol. you are a bigger loser for having nothing but fallacy and always losing your arguments to me.

I don't think so. I have cash on hand, bills are paid, food in my fridge, and I could hire hookers if I wanted to.
Looking for something more permanent and less concerned about shopping for Prada. Pray for me.

all it takes is lucre not good arguments.

All it takes is get your ass a job, *****!

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment.

all it takes is Ten simple Commandment from a God, not the Expense of Government.

why should i believe any thing You say, immoral false witness bearer?

Point out where I bore false witness, you lazy piece of shit!

 

[Marion Morrison]

danielpalos: No job, no women will want to mess with you, end of story.

 

[danielpalos]

lol. you are a bigger loser for having nothing but fallacy and always losing your arguments to me.

I don't think so. I have cash on hand, bills are paid, food in my fridge, and I could hire hookers if I wanted to.
Looking for something more permanent and less concerned about shopping for Prada. Pray for me.

all it takes is lucre not good arguments.

All it takes is get your ass a job, *****!

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment.

all it takes is Ten simple Commandment from a God, not the Expense of Government.

why should i believe any thing You say, immoral false witness bearer?

Point out where I bore false witness, you lazy piece of shit!

it is about bearing true witness to our equal protection laws.

the nine hundred ninety-nine may not have enough moral fortitude.

 

[danielpalos]

danielpalos: No job, no women will want to mess with you, end of story.

Capitalism?

Is it any wonder Man invented socialism and enabled the potentiality, of a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

 

[Marion Morrison]

danielpalos: No job, no women will want to mess with you, end of story.

Capitalism?

Is it any wonder Man invented socialism and enabled the potentiality, of a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

No real man invented socialism, ******.

Karl Marx never worked a day in his life and was a couch crasher.

Now I've had to be a couch crasher, when teh old lady threw me out in the middle of the night even though I pay for everything.
Lucky I had a good friend, with a woman that was also my friend. He's gone now, and I have no tolerance for bullshit like you.

 

[WinterBorn]

Your version has you changing the unemployment compensation from a tax paid by businesses to a general tax, and has you collecting a check for nothing. That means my tax dollars are going to pay for your luxuries.

what does that mean for employers?

It means they lose the labor for which they gave you a check, and their taxes go up because you want money for luxuries without having to work for it.

it means they don't have to deal with wage-slave who Have to work and may litigate if he fires them.

They don't HAVE to work. They work if they want or need money.

How can they litigate in an at-will state?

he won't have to deal with them at all if they can simply apply for unemployment compensation instead.

that alone can save employers a lot of costs that would otherwise to court expenses.

Court expenses? First it goes before a Labor Board. And those are usually dismissed. If it goes to court there is usually something to the employee's complaints.

He won't have to deal with them? lol But he will have to deal with hiring new employees and paying higher taxes.

 

[danielpalos]

danielpalos: No job, no women will want to mess with you, end of story.

Capitalism?

Is it any wonder Man invented socialism and enabled the potentiality, of a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

No real man invented socialism, ******.

Karl Marx never worked a day in his life and was a couch crasher.

Now I've had to be a couch crasher, when teh old lady threw me out in the middle of the night even though I pay for everything.
Lucky I had a good friend, with a woman that was also my friend. He's gone now, and I have no tolerance for bullshit like you.

nothing but stereotypes, story teller? why not come up with some valid arguments, like real men. only wo-men need gossip.

 

[danielpalos]

what does that mean for employers?

It means they lose the labor for which they gave you a check, and their taxes go up because you want money for luxuries without having to work for it.

it means they don't have to deal with wage-slave who Have to work and may litigate if he fires them.

They don't HAVE to work. They work if they want or need money.

How can they litigate in an at-will state?

he won't have to deal with them at all if they can simply apply for unemployment compensation instead.

that alone can save employers a lot of costs that would otherwise to court expenses.

Court expenses? First it goes before a Labor Board. And those are usually dismissed. If it goes to court there is usually something to the employee's complaints.

He won't have to deal with them? lol But he will have to deal with hiring new employees and paying higher taxes.

nice story, story teller.

https://www.cersnow.com/blog/the-average-employee-lawsuit-costs-250000how-safe-is-your-company/

 

[WinterBorn]

It doesn't take long to see you for what you are.

advocating for equal protection of the law in our at-will employment States?

If you were advocating for equal protection, I would agree with you. You aren't.

that is Your story, story teller. equal protection of the law means labor can quit on an at-will basis and collect unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

No, it does not.

Yes, it does. that is what at-will means.

No, it does not. It means that the employment relationship can be ended, for any reason, by either party. If you quit or are fired for-cause, you get no compensation.

 

[danielpalos]

advocating for equal protection of the law in our at-will employment States?

If you were advocating for equal protection, I would agree with you. You aren't.

that is Your story, story teller. equal protection of the law means labor can quit on an at-will basis and collect unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed.

No, it does not.

Yes, it does. that is what at-will means.

No, it does not. It means that the employment relationship can be ended, for any reason, by either party. If you quit or are fired for-cause, you get no compensation.

that is not what at-will means.

and, denial and disparagement of benefits should be up to a Court not an Employer.

 

[WinterBorn]

It means they lose the labor for which they gave you a check, and their taxes go up because you want money for luxuries without having to work for it.

it means they don't have to deal with wage-slave who Have to work and may litigate if he fires them.

They don't HAVE to work. They work if they want or need money.

How can they litigate in an at-will state?

he won't have to deal with them at all if they can simply apply for unemployment compensation instead.

that alone can save employers a lot of costs that would otherwise to court expenses.

Court expenses? First it goes before a Labor Board. And those are usually dismissed. If it goes to court there is usually something to the employee's complaints.

He won't have to deal with them? lol But he will have to deal with hiring new employees and paying higher taxes.

nice story, story teller.

The Average Employee Lawsuit costs $250,000…How Safe is your Company? - Cutting Edge Recruiting Solutions

Wow!! You used a link to back up your claim!! What an amazing day!!

First of all, I did not say no one goes to court. I said it went before the Labor Board first, and that most of those are dismissed. And that hold up. There are approximately 10,300,000 people working in Florida. The 99,992 lawsuits brought account for around 1% of the employed people in the state.

Second of all, I said if these cases go to court, there is usually something to the employees complaints.
Here are a list (from your link) of common employee claims:

• Discrimination (based on race, sex, age, religion or other factors)
• Sexual Harassment
• Retaliation
• Whistleblower
• Negligent Hiring, Supervision, Promotion and Retention
• Disabilities
• Breach of Contract
• Emotional Distress & Mental Anguish
• Invasion of Privacy

Plus there is this from your link "Plus, here’s something else to consider. Retaliation has become the #1 most frequently cited form of discrimination, beating out race discrimination."

So I was not telling stories. However, your claim that the employer wouldn't have to deal with these complaints if the terminated employees could draw unemployment compensation is laughable.

From your link:
"An average out of court settlement is about $40,000. In addition, 10 percent of wrongful termination and discrimination cases result in a $1 million dollar settlement. The majority of cases, about 67 percent, are ruled in the plaintiff’s favor when taken to litigation."

If the terminated employee thinks they will get $40,000 at a minimum and a possibility of $1 million, do you really think they will avoid suing if they can draw $275 a week in unemployment compensation? (the amount comes from Florida FL Unemployment Eligibility)

 

[WinterBorn]

danielpalos: No job, no women will want to mess with you, end of story.

Capitalism?

Is it any wonder Man invented socialism and enabled the potentiality, of a Commune of Heaven on Earth.

No real man invented socialism, ******.

Karl Marx never worked a day in his life and was a couch crasher.

Now I've had to be a couch crasher, when teh old lady threw me out in the middle of the night even though I pay for everything.
Lucky I had a good friend, with a woman that was also my friend. He's gone now, and I have no tolerance for bullshit like you.

nothing but stereotypes, story teller? why not come up with some valid arguments, like real men. only wo-men need gossip.

I don't see a single stereotype in his post. It would be nice, dear, if you would either give up these spurious accusations or have the balls to point out the actual examples of them.

 

[danielpalos]

it means they don't have to deal with wage-slave who Have to work and may litigate if he fires them.

They don't HAVE to work. They work if they want or need money.

How can they litigate in an at-will state?

he won't have to deal with them at all if they can simply apply for unemployment compensation instead.

that alone can save employers a lot of costs that would otherwise to court expenses.

Court expenses? First it goes before a Labor Board. And those are usually dismissed. If it goes to court there is usually something to the employee's complaints.

He won't have to deal with them? lol But he will have to deal with hiring new employees and paying higher taxes.

nice story, story teller.

The Average Employee Lawsuit costs $250,000…How Safe is your Company? - Cutting Edge Recruiting Solutions

Wow!! You used a link to back up your claim!! What an amazing day!!

First of all, I did not say no one goes to court. I said it went before the Labor Board first, and that most of those are dismissed. And that hold up. There are approximately 10,300,000 people working in Florida. The 99,992 lawsuits brought account for around 1% of the employed people in the state.

Second of all, I said if these cases go to court, there is usually something to the employees complaints.
Here are a list (from your link) of common employee claims:

• Discrimination (based on race, sex, age, religion or other factors)
• Sexual Harassment
• Retaliation
• Whistleblower
• Negligent Hiring, Supervision, Promotion and Retention
• Disabilities
• Breach of Contract
• Emotional Distress & Mental Anguish
• Invasion of Privacy

Plus there is this from your link "Plus, here’s something else to consider. Retaliation has become the #1 most frequently cited form of discrimination, beating out race discrimination."

So I was not telling stories. However, your claim that the employer wouldn't have to deal with these complaints if the terminated employees could draw unemployment compensation is laughable.

From your link:
"An average out of court settlement is about $40,000. In addition, 10 percent of wrongful termination and discrimination cases result in a $1 million dollar settlement. The majority of cases, about 67 percent, are ruled in the plaintiff’s favor when taken to litigation."

If the terminated employee thinks they will get $40,000 at a minimum and a possibility of $1 million, do you really think they will avoid suing if they can draw $275 a week in unemployment compensation? (the amount comes from Florida FL Unemployment Eligibility)

i actually understand economics. i posted the link for the stubborn, ignorant.

The Point is, there would Be much less reason to complain on a truly at-will basis. All of those exceptions to the rules are costly.