Snake Meat......source of chinese virus

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In post #543, the 27 Feb article's authors include Foley (Los Alamos) and Chaillon (La Jolla/U. of California San Diego).
 
badger2 said:
At Avian Flu Talk, Sheep Lady adds a parvovirus URL in the "Hong Kong Dog Tests Positive" thread:

URL as found:
Canine respiratory coronavirus, parvovirus FAQs posted
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Whomever takes the "old" bait is simply anthropomorphizing the data. These viruses don't care what anyone thinks about time, their idea of current events comes with the caveat of surprise. These emerging viruses will take their time, and in some cases, H. sapiens' time as well.
 
At Avian Flu Talk, the closest they get is salamanders in the list on the "COVID-19 in a Dog?" thread. COVID-19 may eventually reside in American turtles. They may be needed for vaccine knowledge.
 
The potential COVID-19 intermediate host may reside in the Chicago area, probably the worst place for a viral reservoir.
 
Our point is that one does not fixate on what's current and what's not when it comes to viruses in Nature. We do not know as yet how many similarities to Hong Kong flu virus will be found when analyzing mutations and effects in the host, all information of which will go to develop a vaccine:

Two Weeks Ago: Russian Roulette

Coronavirus Update: Quarantined Patients Given Turtles for Dinner in Spite of Virus Being Linked to Wild Animal Market!
URL as found:
onegreenplanet.org/environment/coronavirus-update-quarantined-patients-given-turtles-for-dinner-in-spite-of-virus-being-linked-to-wild-animal-trade/

alternates:
Coronavirus Update: Quarantined Patients Given Turtles for Dinner In Spite of Virus Being Linked to Wild Animal Trade!
Coronavirus Update: Quarantined Patients Given Turtles for Dinner In Spite of Virus Being Linked to Wild Animal Trade!
 
Regarding post #540, softshell turtle meat (Pelodiscus) was being fed to the quarantined patients (post #551).
 
More reasons to conserve painted turtles for vaccine knowledge was revealed when we investigated the viruses of suspected intermediate COVID-19 host, painted turtle Chrysemys picta. We found a cobra-krait linkage:

1980 Ontario Veterinary College (Guelph) / Metropolitan Toronto Zoo / Eli Lilly & Co. / Herpesvirus-Like Infection in a Painted Turtle
Herpesvirus-like infection in a painted turtle (Chrysemys picta). - PubMed - NCBI
'Herpesviruses have been isolated from green iguana (Iguana iguana) cells in tissue culture and from the venom of the Indian cobra, Naja naja, and the banded krait, Bungarus fasciatus. In these cases, however, the presence of the virus was not associated with any disease process. Herpesvirus-like infection caused focal necrosis in the venom gland of Siamese cobras and a herpesvirus-type agent has been described in association with skin lesions in captive green sea turtles (Chelonia mydas). Although a review of liver diseases in reptiles by Von Ranier Will states that no known diseases of the liver are caused by viruses, a subsequent report of viral hepatitis in Pacific pond turtles (Clemmys marmorata) is available. Here we describe a similar disease associated with herpesvirus-like particles in a captive painted turtle (Chrysemys picta).'
 
The article in post #553 cites a report that does not confirm herpesviruses in the venom of Bungarus. The report it cites is for the Rauscher leukemia virus incubating in cobra and Bungarus venom. The latter was prepared by the Miami Serpentarium Laboratories, Miami, and the cobra venom was prepared by the Army Medical Research Lab at Ft. Knox, Ky. A Pubmed search yields no references for a herpesvirus in Bungarus. Nonetheless, it is interesting that....
'Whatever the activity of the venom from Indian cobra and banded krait snakes, incubation of the Rauscher leukemia virus in these biologically combined enzymes reveals a morphology heretofore not seen for a murine leukemia virus.'
(Padgett and Levine, (1966) Fines Structure of the Rauscher Leukemia Virus As Revealed by Incubation in Snake Venom, Virol. 30:623-30)

This report links to predicted sequences of feline leukemia virus in pangolins (Manis) and feline leukemia virus in painted turtles, Chrysemys picta bellii from both China and Washington state.
 
We have already mentioned the evolution of hepatitis B virus in this thread in conjunction with Chinese polyculture, whereby fish, ducks, pigs, etc., all inhabit the same pond.

At first, we dismissed the infectious bronchitis virus (IBV) link to COVID-19 because it was from poultry, though now it becomes clear that the Israeli vaccine links to the painted turtle via Gallid alphaherpesvirus 1:

Galli alphaherpesvirus 1
Gallid alphaherpesvirus 1 - Wikipedia
'....Originally recognized in chickens in the U.S. in 1926, this virus causes avian infectious laryngotracheitis, a potentially fatal, economically deleterious disease....'

'A painted turtle (Chrysemys picta) which died in captivity had marked necrosis in the liver and lungs with numerous intranuclear inclusion bodies in hepatocytes and respiratory epithelial cells. Electron microscopy revealed herpesvirus-like particles in cells in affected tissues....An adult male Painted turtle was hospitalized at the Metropolitan Toronto Zoo. A swelling containing an abscess was surgically removed from the side of the head. The turtle was treated with Betadine topically and given injections of chloramphenicol and ascorbic acid post-operatively. Six days later, the turtle died.

At necropsy, performed by zoo veterinarians the same day, findings included pulmonary edema. The liver was friable and greenish-brown in colour and the gall bladder was distended with bile. The spleen was congested. The kidneys were pale. The stomach contained several nematodes of various sizes adhering to the lining. Shell rot lesions were evident on the plastron. The surgical wound on the side of the head was healing.
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The virus particles can be presumptively placed into the herpesvirus group based on their size, structure and shape. Adding further support to this classification is the necrotizing pattern of the lesions which is typical of many herpesvirus-induced diseases in other species (refs. 2,4,5,6,8,9,12).
....Ref #9: Purcell DA [1971] Histopathology of Infectious Laryngotracheitis in Fowl Infected by an Aerosol, J. Comp. Pathol. 81: 421-31.'
(Cox WH, Rapley WA, Barker IK, Herpesvirus-Like Infection in a Painted Turtle (Chrysemys picta), Journal of Wildlife Diseases, 16 [1980]: 445-449)
 
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Today i had a surgical procedere where in Cuba, they would of told me to live with it.

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